History Quotes / StatusQuoIsGod

20th May '16 6:23:11 AM erforce
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'''Mike:''' That's the thing, though, ''Ghostbusters'' wasn't specifically ''ghosts''; it was more interdimensional beings. Especially the ending: [[LovecraftLite an interdimensional god was attacking the Earth.]] It wasn't dead humans coming back to life, it was more an alien kinda thing. But you're right, it would change society dramatically. And writing that kinda thing into a sequel would be complex.\\

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'''Mike:''' That's the thing, though, ''Ghostbusters'' ''Film/{{Ghostbusters|1984}}'' wasn't specifically ''ghosts''; it was more interdimensional beings. Especially the ending: [[LovecraftLite an interdimensional god was attacking the Earth.]] It wasn't dead humans coming back to life, it was more an alien kinda thing. But you're right, it would change society dramatically. And writing that kinda thing into a sequel would be complex.\\



-->--''[[WebVideo/HalfInTheBag Half in the Bag]]'' riffs ''{{Film/Ghostbusters}} II''

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-->--''[[WebVideo/HalfInTheBag -->-- ''[[WebVideo/HalfInTheBag Half in the Bag]]'' riffs ''{{Film/Ghostbusters}} II''
''Film/GhostbustersII''
16th Jan '16 2:19:34 AM Anddrix
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->''"How many times has the bridge been destroyed? How many shuttlecrafts have vanished, and [[InfiniteSupplies another one just comes out of the oven?]] That kind of [[ViewersAreMorons bullshitting the audience]], I think, takes its toll. At some point the audience stops taking it seriously, because they know that this is not really the way this would happen."''

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->''"How many times has the bridge been destroyed? How many shuttlecrafts have vanished, and [[InfiniteSupplies another one just comes out of the oven?]] That kind of [[ViewersAreMorons bullshitting the audience]], audience, I think, takes its toll. At some point the audience stops taking it seriously, because they know that this is not really the way this would happen."''
17th Sep '15 4:18:59 PM nombretomado
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->''"Two years, folks. Thatís how long the death of the DC Multiverse, the entire stated reason for ''[[CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Crisis]]'', managed to last."''

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->''"Two years, folks. Thatís how long the death of the DC Multiverse, the entire stated reason for ''[[CrisisOnInfiniteEarths ''[[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Crisis]]'', managed to last."''
19th Jun '15 5:55:20 PM johnnyfog
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->''"There's a certain number of people who are protected that [[InvincibleHero generally always win]], and everyone else is at the same level. Everybody. Everyone else just ''trades wins.'' Whenever they're feuding, one guys wins, then they have another match, the other guy wins, they have another match, the other guy wins, they have another match, the other guy wins. And so everyone has essentially the same win-loss record (except Wrestling/DolphZiggler who ''always'' loses, and the Intercontinental Champion who ''always'' loses, the U.S. Champion ''always'' loses).\\\
The problem with that is, when everyone trades wins, the roster... is a flat line.\\\
And there's no interest...anywhere.\\\
''[[AC:[[{{Flatline}} Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep]].]]''"''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBITkwVl8n8#t=3420s on]] [[{{WWE}} Royal Rumble]] 2015
19th Jun '15 5:54:47 PM johnnyfog
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->''" Worf is also back, '''''also''''' with no explanation -- but after three films, that's given. For the record, when we last saw him on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'', he had just been appointed Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Now he's back to [[LimitedAdvancementOpportunities pushing buttons on a console.]]"''

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->''" Worf ->''"Worf is also back, '''''also''''' with no explanation -- but after three films, that's given. For the record, when we last saw him on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'', he had just been appointed Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Now he's back to [[LimitedAdvancementOpportunities pushing buttons on a console.]]"''
19th Jun '15 5:54:36 PM johnnyfog
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->''"For the record, when we last saw him on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'', he had just been appointed Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Now he's back to [[LimitedAdvancementOpportunities pushing buttons on a console.]]"''

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->''"For ->''" Worf is also back, '''''also''''' with no explanation -- but after three films, that's given. For the record, when we last saw him on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'', he had just been appointed Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Now he's back to [[LimitedAdvancementOpportunities pushing buttons on a console.]]"''
19th Jun '15 5:53:45 PM johnnyfog
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'''Rich:''' Because proof of the existence of ghosts [[BrokenMasquerade would change the world too much.]] You still wanna ground the movie in reality--\\

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'''Rich:''' Because proof of the existence of ghosts [[BrokenMasquerade would change the world too much.]] much. You still wanna ground the movie in reality--\\
19th Jun '15 5:53:24 PM johnnyfog
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'''Mike:''' That's the thing, though, ''Ghostbusters'' wasn't specifically ''ghosts''; it was more interdimensional beings. Especially the ending: it was, like... [[LovecraftLite an interdimensional god was attacking the Earth.]] It wasn't dead humans coming back to life, it was more an alien kinda thing. But you're right, it would change society dramatically. And writing that kinda thing into a sequel would be complex.\\

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'''Mike:''' That's the thing, though, ''Ghostbusters'' wasn't specifically ''ghosts''; it was more interdimensional beings. Especially the ending: it was, like... [[LovecraftLite an interdimensional god was attacking the Earth.]] It wasn't dead humans coming back to life, it was more an alien kinda thing. But you're right, it would change society dramatically. And writing that kinda thing into a sequel would be complex.\\



->''"I am not huge into comic books anymore. It is not that I donít love the characters because I do. It is not that I donít love the adventure; I do. It is because comic culture has this neurotic fear of change. This is something that is shared by both the makers and the buyers. Now I can understand why from both sides. From the comic book company perspective you want to keep things as static as possible to keep the run going as long as possible to sell the most books. After all, if {{Batman}} for examples conquers his demons [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption then that would kind of be it]]. There would be nothing left for his character to do. From the public perspective we kind of dislike things that are different and prefer the safe norm. Much like fast food we know what we are getting and are fine with [[StrictlyFormula the same but fulfilling formula.]]\\\
But there just reaches a point where it all gets ridiculous...evolution is more observable than character changes in comics. It took what: 60 years for Superman to marry Lois Lane? People still go into full blown freak outs at ''Film/SupermanReturns''[=í=] sub plot that Superman and Lois had a kid. Spider-Man even made [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL]] in order to bring the comics back to the status quo. It reaches damn near comedic levels at times. Batman has either reached self parody or is doing its closest modern interpretation of Sisyphus. Instead of being destined to pushing a boulder uphill for all eternity, Batman [[JokerImmunity has to catch the Joker again and again and again]] to the end of time."''

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->''"I am not huge into comic books anymore. It is not that I donít love the characters because I do. It is not that I donít love the adventure; I do. It is because comic culture has this neurotic fear of change. This is something that is shared by both the makers and the buyers. Now I can understand why from both sides. From the comic book company perspective you want to keep things as static as possible to keep the run going as long as possible to sell the most books. After all, if {{Batman}} for examples conquers his demons [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption then that would kind of be it]]. There would be nothing left for his character to do. From the public perspective we kind of dislike things that are different and prefer the safe norm. Much like fast food we know what we are getting and are fine with [[StrictlyFormula the same but fulfilling formula.]]\\\
But there just reaches a point where it all gets ridiculous...evolution is more observable than character changes in comics. It took what: 60 years for Superman to marry Lois Lane? People still go into full blown freak outs at ''Film/SupermanReturns''[=í=] sub plot that Superman and Lois had a kid. Spider-Man even made [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL]] in order to bring the comics back to the status quo. It reaches damn near comedic levels at times. Batman
->''"Batman has either reached [[{{Postmoderinsm}} self parody parody]] or is doing its closest modern interpretation of Sisyphus. Instead of being destined to pushing a boulder uphill for all eternity, Batman [[JokerImmunity has to catch the Joker again and again and again]] to the end of time."''



->''"Because the older characters are the ones that fans remember and relate to, and because they stick with characters much longer, [[CashCowFranchise it becomes easier and more profitable]] to simply go back and tell stories of Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent or [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Oliver Queen]] or Peter Parker or '[[{{ComicBook/Wolverine}} James Howlett]]' or Tony Stark...What this does is simply recycle old ideas even more and more, [[StaticCharacter not allowing these characters to grow and change.]] This has led to dubious editorial decisions, like Peter Parker making a deal with Satan to destroy his marriage. Characters that occasionally changed and struck out on their own (Scott Summers leaving the {{ComicBook/X-Men}} after Jean Grey died, for instance) are now locked into their positions, calcified and stagnant. The flip side to this is that new characters [[CListFodder get strangled in the crib.]]"''

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->''"Because the older characters are the ones that fans remember and relate to, and because they stick with characters much longer, [[CashCowFranchise it becomes easier and more profitable]] to simply go back and tell stories of Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent or [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Oliver Queen]] or Peter Parker or '[[{{ComicBook/Wolverine}} James Howlett]]' or Tony Stark...What ->''"What this does is simply recycle old ideas even more and more, [[StaticCharacter not allowing these characters to grow and change.]] change. This has led to [[AssPull dubious editorial decisions, decisions]], like Peter Parker making a deal with Satan to destroy his marriage. Characters that occasionally changed and struck out on their own (Scott Summers leaving the {{ComicBook/X-Men}} after Jean Grey died, for instance) are now locked into their positions, calcified and stagnant. The flip side to this is that new characters [[CListFodder get strangled in the crib.]]"''



->''"This is the dank hell of the neverending adventure. To sustain such a narrative there must always be the suffering of the world in which the adventure is crafted... the story [[MoralDissonance will uphold its degradations]] just so that its hero can, every week, save a tiny fraction of infinity. There is no ending. There is no release. Nothing ever changes except the iconography. Because change is death, and the show refuses death."''

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->''"This is the dank hell of the neverending adventure. To sustain such a narrative there must always be the suffering of the world in which the adventure is crafted... the story [[MoralDissonance will uphold its degradations]] just so that its hero can, every week, save a tiny fraction of infinity. There ->''"There is no ending. There is no release. Nothing ever changes except the iconography. Because change is death, and the show refuses death."''



->'''Chris''': This is supposed to be Supermanís origin story, but itís not. Iím sure thatís what they meant it to be at one time, but [[SeasonalRot as the show dragged on]], it changed along the way...they could never actually pull the trigger on anything. So it hits a point where absolutely nothing about it make sense. Clark Kent forms the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, he fights [[TheDeathOfSuperman Doomsday]], he works at the ''Daily Planet'', he marries LoisLane, but he never becomes Superman, so the show has to go through these crazy acrobatics to explain how all this is happening. And then it becomes a matter of [[PanderingToTheBase how much Superman stuff they can cram in]], because they realize thatís what everyone wants to see, but the one thing that would make it all make some semblance of sense, they canít, or donít do.\\
'''David''': And every time he meets any of these people, they always have to end it in a way where it can happen again a few years later with Clark wearing a costume. Like, Doomsdayís [[HesJustHiding buried underground]], and he can kill Clark later.\\
'''Chris''': Exactly! So thereís this entire sense of futility and dishonesty to everything about it.\\
'''David''': Itís all just an overture. Itís all going to happen over again, in a cooler way, that we wonít get to see.
-->--''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-finale/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Finale")

->''"It's a star-studded reception: Creator/WhoopiGoldberg is back as Guinan! Creator/WilWheaton is back as Wesley Crusher, with ''no'' explanation for why he's back! Last we saw him, he was off to ''[[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence explore new planes of existence]]'' with the Traveler, aaaand now he's back in a Starfleet uniform. Worf is also back, also with no explanation -- but after three films, that's given. For the record, when we last saw him on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'', he had just been appointed Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. [[LimitedAdvancementOpportunities Now he's back to pushing buttons on a console.]]"''

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->'''Chris''': This is supposed to be Supermanís origin story, but itís not. Iím sure thatís what they meant it to be at one time, but [[SeasonalRot as the show dragged on]], it changed along the way...they could never actually pull the trigger on anything. So it hits a point where absolutely nothing about it make sense. Clark Kent forms the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, he fights [[TheDeathOfSuperman Doomsday]], he works at the ''Daily Planet'', he marries LoisLane, but he never becomes Superman, so the show has to go through these crazy acrobatics to explain how all this is happening. And then it becomes a matter of [[PanderingToTheBase how much Superman stuff they can cram in]], because they realize thatís what everyone wants to see, but the one thing that would make it all make some semblance of sense, they canít, or donít do.\\
'''David''': And every time he meets any of these people, they always have to end it in a way where it can happen again a few years later with Clark wearing a costume. Like, Doomsdayís [[HesJustHiding buried underground]], and he can kill Clark later.\\
'''Chris''': Exactly! So thereís this entire sense of futility and dishonesty to everything about it.\\
'''David''': Itís all just an overture. Itís all going to happen over again, in a cooler way, that we wonít get to see.
-->--''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-finale/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Finale")

->''"It's a star-studded reception: Creator/WhoopiGoldberg is back as Guinan! Creator/WilWheaton is back as Wesley Crusher, with ''no'' explanation for why he's back! Last we saw him, he was off to ''[[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence explore new planes of existence]]'' with the Traveler, aaaand now he's back in a Starfleet uniform. Worf is also back, also with no explanation -- but after three films, that's given. For
->''"For the record, when we last saw him on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'', he had just been appointed Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Now he's back to [[LimitedAdvancementOpportunities Now he's back to pushing buttons on a console.]]"''



->''"When ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' was under siege at the end of seasons five and [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs the Dominion took over]] the writers took the bold step to have a six episode arc where Starfleet was no longer in charge of the station. Unfortunately the writers of ''Voyager'' are no where near as bold and they set up the elements in the first part that will wind up bringing back the crew in the second part. [[CliffhangerCopout It renders the cliffhanger a joke]] because you know that things will be back to normal (minus [[MauveShirt all the best characters]]) at the end so what was the point of it all? ...This is some seriously lazy writing. The Kazon in control of ''Voyager'' is so ineptly handled Ė they walk around with tricorders talking {{technobabble}}Öits like the Starfleet crew isnít even away! Why didnít they start stripping the ship and mass-producing the technology? Or give it some personal touches? Or attack some of the Kazon enemies? Or ''anything?''"''

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->''"When ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' was under siege at the end of seasons five and [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs the Dominion took over]] the writers took the bold step to have a six episode arc where Starfleet was no longer in charge of the station. Unfortunately the writers of ''Voyager'' are no where near as bold and they set up the elements in the first part that will wind up bringing back the crew in the second part. [[CliffhangerCopout It renders the cliffhanger a joke]] because you know that things will be back to normal (minus [[MauveShirt all the best characters]]) at the end so what was the point of it all? ...This is some seriously lazy writing. bold..The Kazon in control of ''Voyager'' is so ineptly handled Ė they walk around with tricorders talking {{technobabble}}Öits like the Starfleet crew isnít even away! Why didnít they start stripping the ship and mass-producing the technology? Or give it some personal touches? Or attack some of the Kazon enemies? Or ''anything?''"''away!"''



->''"{{Mario}}'s been saving Peach for 25 years. That's almost as long as {{Weird Al}} has been making albums. And you know what? It took him some time, but Weird Al got married. Mario's still chomping at the bit while Peach offers him [[SuperMario64 a nice cake]]. Or a vacation [[SuperMarioSunshine to another place where she'll get kidnapped]]... He has [[TheManyDeathsOfYou burned to death in hot lava. He has been eaten by giant flying fish. He has fallen to death.]] Oh, God, [[PlatformHell has he fallen to death]]. And each time, he's been resurrected by magic he can't possibly begin to understand with his CUNY Brooklyn associate's degree in plumbing.\\\

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->''"{{Mario}}'s been saving Peach for 25 years. That's almost as long as {{Weird Al}} has been making albums. And you know what? It took him some time, but Weird Al got married. Mario's still chomping at the bit while Peach offers him [[SuperMario64 a nice cake]]. Or a vacation [[SuperMarioSunshine to another place where she'll get kidnapped]]... He ->''"He has [[TheManyDeathsOfYou burned to death in hot lava. He has been eaten by giant flying fish. He has fallen to death.]] Oh, God, [[PlatformHell has he fallen to death]]. And each time, he's been resurrected by magic he can't possibly begin to understand with his CUNY Brooklyn associate's degree in plumbing.\\\



->''"The ongoing gag in Mario [=RPGs=], when Bowser is enlisted as an anti-hero, is that he opposes the new villain because [[EvilVersusEvil he considers kidnapping the princess to be his territory alone]]. This is a pretty firm indicator that Bowser is just as invested in the status quo as everyone else. His attempts to kidnap the princess seem almost ceremonial. I believe that the very first Super Mario Bros represented the only time when Bowser was genuinely kidnapping the princess to pursue his goals, presumably the attainment of power and influence. And he succeeded. From that point on, he is occasionally seen wearing a crown and being identified as 'King of the Koopas'. He lives in a castle and employs most of the land's monster workforce. [[CutLexLuthorACheck Why does he need to keep kidnapping her?]] He's already a king. I don't see [[SugarBowl the saccharine lands she rules]] appealing to [[{{Mordor}} his taste for lava and perpetual twilight]]. It must just be some regular ceremony recreating the original successful revolt, like a friendly game between [[GoKartingWithBowser two rival footballing nations.]]"''

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->''"The ongoing gag in Mario [=RPGs=], when Bowser is enlisted as an anti-hero, is that he opposes the new villain because [[EvilVersusEvil he considers kidnapping the princess to be his territory alone]]. This is a pretty firm indicator that Bowser is just as invested in the status quo as everyone else. His attempts to kidnap the princess seem almost ceremonial. I ->''"I believe that the very first Super Mario Bros represented the only time when Bowser was genuinely kidnapping the princess to pursue his goals, presumably the attainment of power and influence. And he succeeded. From that point on, he is occasionally seen wearing a crown and being identified as 'King of the Koopas'. He lives in a castle and employs most of the land's monster workforce. [[CutLexLuthorACheck Why does he need to keep kidnapping her?]] He's already a king. I don't see [[SugarBowl the saccharine lands she rules]] appealing to [[{{Mordor}} his taste for lava and perpetual twilight]]. It must just be some regular ceremony recreating the original successful revolt, like a friendly game between [[GoKartingWithBowser two rival footballing nations.]]"''



->''"By the time you read this, this yearís [[{{Wrestling/WWE}} Slammy Awards]] will have come and gone. Wrestling/JohnCena will have won Superstar of the Year, a Wrestling/TripleH match will have [[CanonSue mysteriously won Match of the Year for a third year in a row]], and Wrestling/MichaelCole will have convinced you that he is the most annoying on-air personality in company history."''
-->--'''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''''', [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/1996-slammy-awards/ "The 1996 Slammy Awards"]]



->''"These days, the majority of the comic book audience is 40-somethings who are not necessarily interested in comic books as a medium or panel progression or sequential narrative. They are probably interested in ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}."''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jul/25/alan-moore-league-extraordinary-gentlemen Guardian interview]]
18th Jun '15 4:50:53 PM nombretomado
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->'''Chris''': This is supposed to be Supermanís origin story, but itís not. Iím sure thatís what they meant it to be at one time, but [[SeasonalRot as the show dragged on]], it changed along the way...they could never actually pull the trigger on anything. So it hits a point where absolutely nothing about it make sense. Clark Kent forms the JusticeLeague, he fights [[TheDeathOfSuperman Doomsday]], he works at the ''Daily Planet'', he marries LoisLane, but he never becomes Superman, so the show has to go through these crazy acrobatics to explain how all this is happening. And then it becomes a matter of [[PanderingToTheBase how much Superman stuff they can cram in]], because they realize thatís what everyone wants to see, but the one thing that would make it all make some semblance of sense, they canít, or donít do.\\

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->'''Chris''': This is supposed to be Supermanís origin story, but itís not. Iím sure thatís what they meant it to be at one time, but [[SeasonalRot as the show dragged on]], it changed along the way...they could never actually pull the trigger on anything. So it hits a point where absolutely nothing about it make sense. Clark Kent forms the JusticeLeague, Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, he fights [[TheDeathOfSuperman Doomsday]], he works at the ''Daily Planet'', he marries LoisLane, but he never becomes Superman, so the show has to go through these crazy acrobatics to explain how all this is happening. And then it becomes a matter of [[PanderingToTheBase how much Superman stuff they can cram in]], because they realize thatís what everyone wants to see, but the one thing that would make it all make some semblance of sense, they canít, or donít do.\\
9th Jun '15 3:11:01 PM johnnyfog
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->''"I think the audience intuitively knows when something is true and something is not true....the ship would not look spic-and-span every week, after all these battles it goes through. How many times has the bridge been destroyed? How many shuttlecrafts have vanished, and [[InfiniteSupplies another one just comes out of the oven?]] That kind of [[ViewersAreMorons bullshitting the audience]], I think, takes its toll. At some point the audience stops taking it seriously, because they know that this is not really the way this would happen."''

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->''"I think ->''"These days, the majority of the comic book audience intuitively knows when something is true and something is 40-somethings who are not true....the ship would not look spic-and-span every week, after all these battles it goes through. How necessarily interested in comic books as a medium or panel progression or sequential narrative. They are probably interested in ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}."''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jul/25/alan-moore-league-extraordinary-gentlemen Guardian interview]]

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many times has the bridge been destroyed? How many shuttlecrafts have vanished, and [[InfiniteSupplies another one just comes out of the oven?]] That kind of [[ViewersAreMorons bullshitting the audience]], I think, takes its toll. At some point the audience stops taking it seriously, because they know that this is not really the way this would happen."''
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