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4th Feb '16 7:26:21 AM Morgenthaler
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[[Series/DadsArmy Arthur Lowe was put in charge of defending England]] while [[Film/TheGreatEscape Steve McQueen tried to escape from a POW camp]], but stopped ''just'' short of the Swiss border because [[Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic the Von Trapps had gotten there first]], and Richard Attenborough only succeeded in [[JurassicPark a plan to house cloned dinosaurs]] -- all while [[Series/HogansHeroes Colonel Klink]] patted himself on the back.\\\ A girl named [[TheDiaryOfAnneFrank Anne Frank]] comes into this somewhere, but I think she was rescued by [[{{Film/XMen}} a boy who had control over magnetism with his mind.]]\\\
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[[Series/DadsArmy Arthur Lowe was put in charge of defending England]] while [[Film/TheGreatEscape Steve McQueen tried to escape from a POW camp]], but stopped ''just'' short of the Swiss border because [[Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic the Von Trapps had gotten there first]], and Richard Attenborough only succeeded in [[JurassicPark [[Film/JurassicPark a plan to house cloned dinosaurs]] -- all while [[Series/HogansHeroes Colonel Klink]] patted himself on the back.\\\ A girl named [[TheDiaryOfAnneFrank [[Literature/TheDiaryOfAnneFrank Anne Frank]] comes into this somewhere, but I think she was rescued by [[{{Film/XMen}} a boy who had control over magnetism with his mind.]]\\\
8th Dec '15 8:44:43 PM nombretomado
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-->-- SFDebris Opinionated Voyager Guide
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-->-- SFDebris WebSite/SFDebris Opinionated Voyager Guide
3rd Dec '15 12:33:52 PM zootsutra
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-> ''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogaming. Like I said before, its use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tasha Yar could kick its ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns."''
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-> ''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogaming. Like I said before, its use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tasha Yar could kick its ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, snatch. I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck, we'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns."''
3rd Dec '15 12:31:50 PM zootsutra
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-> ''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogameing. Like I said before it's use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tashi Yarr could kick it's ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns."''
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-> ''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogameing. videogaming. Like I said before it's before, its use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tashi Yarr Tasha Yar could kick it's its ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns."''
2nd Dec '15 6:48:01 PM evilian546
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->''""Threshold" was [[BileFascination a slow car wreck]]. "Twisted" is like watching tarantulas fuck."''
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->''""Threshold" ->''"Threshold" was [[BileFascination a slow car wreck]]. "Twisted" is like watching tarantulas fuck."''

-> ''... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogameing. Like I said before it's use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tashi Yarr could kick it's ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns.''
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-> ''...''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogameing. Like I said before it's use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tashi Yarr could kick it's ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns.''"''
2nd Dec '15 6:44:22 PM evilian546
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-> ''... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogameing. Like I said before it's use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tashi Yarr could kick it's ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch, I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck. We'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns.'' -->-- "Persistence of Vision"
13th Nov '15 8:49:11 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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So while as Rosie the Riveter built a bunch of tanks back home, we sent Film/{{Patton}} over to Europe to tell a bunch of people to "make those sons 'o bitches die for their country", but mostly just to show off his awesome giant flag. He fought in North Africa so we could have a place for [[Literature/CatchTwentyTwo Cpt. Yossarian to launch his airstrikes]] from, until he got upset by his buddy Snowden getting taken out (not realizing that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden he's actually hiding out in Russia now]].)\\\
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So while as Rosie the Riveter built a bunch of tanks back home, we sent Film/{{Patton}} over to Europe to tell a bunch of people to "make those sons 'o bitches die for their country", but mostly just to show off his awesome giant flag. He fought in North Africa so we could have a place for [[Literature/CatchTwentyTwo Cpt. Yossarian to launch his airstrikes]] from, until he got upset by his buddy Snowden getting taken out (not realizing that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden he's actually hiding out in Russia now]].)\\\
13th Sep '15 5:15:19 PM WillBGood
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->''"[[TheRedGreenShow And remember: If women don't find you handsome]], well, that's their opinion."''
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->''"[[TheRedGreenShow ->''"[[Series/TheRedGreenShow And remember: If women don't find you handsome]], well, that's their opinion."''
30th Aug '15 6:51:41 PM LtFedora
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-> ''"Look, here's the problem we have. It's the lack of cohesiveness in Janeway's character that I think is bothering people. Because, you see, they just had trouble establishing her, so she basically became a kind of generic authoritative figure with an 'I'm woman and therefore must nurture' vibe tacked onto it. I hate to say it, but I think that that was where the writers, male and female ones, made the mistake; they just couldn't stop slapping 'woman' on as a character trait for Janeway. Now, let me explain what I mean by that. Sisko was not written with 'black' as a character trait. It was a 'characteristic', that's different. It means that it informs his tastes, his views of history, but he didn't walk around with that label on him. That's why I've said before he was never written as 'the black captain'. Sisko is likewise a widower and a single parent, and those were never seen in how he operated as an officer either. People follow him based solely on his rank and leadership, and his race didn't matter; people criticize and shout at him, and his race didn't matter; he gets assignments and promotions and reprimands, and his race didn't matter. Which is how it should be! That's the Star Trek ethos. It's not that he ceased being black; it's that it only matters, just like being a widower, just like being a single parent, ''when it matters'', and the rest of the time, he's just a person, no adjective in front. The writers seemed unable to divorce that with Janeway, so her personality became ill-defined. Because when your character traits include something that applies to ''3.5 billion people'', and a range from a submissive who will literally let men crap on her, to the leader of the most economically powerful nation in Europe, then that seems like you’ve put down something more useless than her astrological sign."''
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-> ''"Look, here's the problem we have. It's the lack of cohesiveness in Janeway's character that I think is bothering people. Because, you see, they just had trouble establishing her, so she basically became a kind of generic authoritative figure with an 'I'm woman and therefore must nurture' vibe tacked onto it. I hate to say it, but I think that that was where the writers, male and female ones, made the mistake; they just couldn't stop slapping 'woman' on as a character trait for Janeway. Now, let me explain what I mean by that. Sisko was not written with 'black' as a character trait. It was a 'characteristic', that's different. It means that it informs his tastes, his views of history, but he didn't walk around with that label on him. That's why I've said before he was never written as 'the black captain'. Sisko is likewise a widower and a single parent, and those were never seen in how he operated as an officer either. People follow him based solely on his rank and leadership, and his race didn't matter; people criticize and shout at him, and his race didn't matter; he gets assignments and promotions and reprimands, and his race didn't matter. Which is how it should be! That's the Star Trek ethos. It's not that he ceased being black; it's that it only matters, just like being a widower, just like being a single parent, ''when it matters'', and the rest of the time, he's just a person, no adjective in front. The writers seemed unable to divorce that with Janeway, so her personality became ill-defined. Because when your character traits include something that applies to ''3.5 billion people'', and a range from a submissive who will literally let men crap on her, to the leader [[UsefulNotes/TheChancellorsOfGermany leader]] of [[{{UsefulNotes/Germany}} the most economically powerful nation in Europe, Europe]], then that seems like you’ve put down something more useless than her astrological sign."''
5th Aug '15 10:55:43 PM evilian546
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!!Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire -> ''In an earlier draft of this I apologized for my seeming obsession with bashing Rob Liefeld. I have since stricken that and offer no apologies because, even though he is the whipping boy of comic book fans every time he comes up it's obvious why. From his business decisions to his laughably bad stories to his unprofessionalism to the fact that the one area where he possesses anything that could be considered a skill "art". (And believe me the internet has archives that challenge that assertion.) So me even suggesting that he has some skill there if anything threatens my creditability with comicbook fans for being to generous to Rob Liefeld. Which is the point, the one point I argue that he degree of skill suggesting the possibility of one day showing talent. That position puts me on the fringe. So I'm giving up all pretense, I will almost certainly be bashing Liefeld every time he comes up. I would like it to be clear that's not simply of the sake of bashing him. Because I could list all the comments and antics such as his outrage after creating countless forgettable characters that he wholly owns, he publicly loss it when one of his creations that marvel owns was revealed to be gay. Or, repeat the hilarious observation that the first character he did when he left was one that looked like himself, was leader of a celebrity superhero team, and was named Shaft. But I'm not going to make any further remarks like that because as fun as that would be this series is not dedicated to Rob Liefeld and everything he's done wrong. This is about comics, where he is a player and he has done a lot of things wrong. And even then the snide remarks are only because of virtually every time he comes up he is in some way connected to something that defies common sense or human decency.'' --> -- Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire Part 3: Image Problem -> ''"At Marvel, there was this sense of growing doom. Twelve years before, DC was looking for them to make their comics, and now they were outsourcing them to those who had defected while laying off loyal writers and artists. [Mark] Gruenwald, one of Marvel's most supportive creative forces for two decades, became dejected at the way the universe was treated and the company was collapsing, unwilling to leave for greener pastures but miserable with his current job. Gruenwald's favorite character was Captain America and he'd worked on that book, in one form or another, for fourteen years. Then it and the character was taken away from him and given to Image. Gruenwald was heartbroken, in quite a literal sense. The rebooted Captain America #1 was absolutely dreadful: a terrible story and the Liefeld artistic foibles dialed up to eleven for it. The issue sold well but was a creative black hole; all the history of the character sucked out and replaced with this new figure. Gruenwald took the preview copy Marvel had been delivered home with him on Friday; he never showed up for work on Monday. A non-smoker and a health freak, and yet he had a heart attack and perished. The toxic environment of Marvel had destroyed a good man. And plus it should be noted, and I'm actually being serious here, ''ROB LIEFELD MADE A COMIC SO BAD IT MAY HAVE KILLED A MAN!!!''"'' -->-- Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire Part 8: The Trenches

-> ''In an earlier draft of this I apologized for my seeming obsession with bashing Rob Liefeld. I have since stricken that and offer no apologies because, even though he is the whipping boy of comic book fans every time he comes up it's obvious why. From his business decisions to his laughably bad stories to his unprofessionalism to the fact that the one area where he possesses anything that could be considered a skill "art". (And believe me the internet has archives that challenge that assertion.) So me even suggesting that he has some skill there if anything threatens my creditability with comicbook fans for being to generous to Rob Liefeld. Which is the point, the one point I argue that he degree of skill suggesting the possibility of one day showing talent. That position puts me on the fringe. So I'm giving up all pretense, I will almost certainly be bashing Liefeld every time he comes up. I would like it to be clear that's not simply of the sake of bashing him. Because I could list all the comments and antics such as his outrage after creating countless forgettable characters that he wholly owns, he publicly loss it when one of his creations that marvel owns was revealed to be gay. Or, repeat the hilarious observation that the first character he did when he left was one that looked like himself, was leader of a celebrity superhero team, and was named Shaft. But I'm not going to make any further remarks like that because as fun as that would be this series is not dedicated to Rob Liefeld and everything he's done wrong. This is about comics, where he is a player and he has done a lot of things wrong. And even then the snide remarks are only because of virtually every time he comes up he is in some way connected to something that defies common sense or human decency.'' --> -- Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire Part 3: Image Problem -> ''"At Marvel, there was this sense of growing doom. Twelve years before, DC was looking for them to make their comics, and now they were outsourcing them to those who had defected while laying off loyal writers and artists. [Mark] Gruenwald, one of Marvel's most supportive creative forces for two decades, became dejected at the way the universe was treated and the company was collapsing, unwilling to leave for greener pastures but miserable with his current job. Gruenwald's favorite character was Captain America and he'd worked on that book, in one form or another, for fourteen years. Then it and the character was taken away from him and given to Image. Gruenwald was heartbroken, in quite a literal sense. The rebooted Captain America #1 was absolutely dreadful: a terrible story and the Liefeld artistic foibles dialed up to eleven for it. The issue sold well but was a creative black hole; all the history of the character sucked out and replaced with this new figure. Gruenwald took the preview copy Marvel had been delivered home with him on Friday; he never showed up for work on Monday. A non-smoker and a health freak, and yet he had a heart attack and perished. The toxic environment of Marvel had destroyed a good man. And plus it should be noted, and I'm actually being serious here, ''ROB LIEFELD MADE A COMIC SO BAD IT MAY HAVE KILLED A MAN!!!''"'' -->-- Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire Part 8: The Trenches
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