History Quotes / JerkSue

19th Oct '17 6:54:17 AM Luigifan
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->"Seriously, Mary Sue, you worry me. You do realize that there is a difference - a very BIG difference - between a cool, collected, liberated woman and a violent, self-aggrandizing bitch? I can't get over how many of you girls think that physically abusing men for no reason other than you're annoyed with them makes you look 'cool'. It doesn't. You do realize that punching men for talking to you does not make you look feisty and independent, it makes you look dangerously unhinged and would not serve to endear you to anyone, still less the man you've just punched?"

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->"Seriously, Mary Sue, you worry me. You do realize that there is a difference - a very BIG difference - between a cool, collected, liberated woman and [[StrawFeminist a violent, self-aggrandizing bitch? bitch]]? I can't get over how many of you girls think that physically abusing men for no reason other than you're annoyed with them makes you look 'cool'. It doesn't. You do realize that punching men for talking to you does not make you look feisty and independent, it makes you look dangerously unhinged and would not serve to endear you to anyone, still less the man you've just punched?"



->The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.

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->The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character [[SelfInsertFic will obviously be ''you''; be]] ''[[AuthorAvatar you]]''; but while [[TakeThat you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, liking]], [[AuthorAvatar your author insertion character character]] [[WishFulfillment is a fantasy, fantasy]], so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's [[KickTheDog setting their dog on fire.fire]].
8th Jun '16 1:24:56 AM GliderPro
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->The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''

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->The next thing you need ->All throughout this episode, I really tried to picture another ''Trek'' captain doing what Archer does here. And I just couldn't do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main it. For that matter, I can't imagine any other show making their central character will obviously out to be ''you''; but while you are this much of a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no selfish idiot...I have to wonder if this one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.
episode didn't [[DisasterDominoes hasten the inevitable cancellation.]]
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "A Night in Sickbay"

->OH, THAT MANIAC, HE IS A CARD! Crashing expensive starships indispensable to the war effort, destroying the flight deck, and running over helpless technicians for fun! He--he cracks me up.
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' on ''Film/WingCommander''

->She's a 'strong woman' who can take care of herself, and apparently a 'strong woman' is someone who is [[AxCrazy inexplicably hostile and has poor impulse control.]]
--> -- '''''Website/{{Cracked}}''''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-obnoxious-assumptions-hollywood-makes-about-women/#ixzz1YVlgfw00 6 Obnoxious Assumptions Hollywood Makes About Women]]



->This is someone I spent seven years dreading every time he appeared on-camera, and very rarely found things turned out better than I thought. I'm not gonna pretend I want to see him leave the ship in triumph two episodes from the end. I wanna see him do the ''[[Series/GameOfThrones GoT]]'' walk of shame -- except with some pants on, because if you look at Neelix's junk you'll [[FanDisservice turn into a pillar of salt.]] I wanna see him exit [[ThrownOutTheAirlock via an airlock]] that someone has labeled "EMERGENCY BATHROOM" with a ripped piece of cardboard and magic marker.
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Homestead"

->OH, THAT MANIAC, HE IS A CARD! Crashing expensive starships indispensable to the war effort, destroying the flight deck, and running over helpless technicians for fun! He--he cracks me up.
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' on ''Film/WingCommander''



->She's a 'strong woman' who can take care of herself, and apparently a 'strong woman' is someone who is [[AxCrazy inexplicably hostile and has poor impulse control.]]
--> -- '''''Website/{{Cracked}}''''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-obnoxious-assumptions-hollywood-makes-about-women/#ixzz1YVlgfw00 6 Obnoxious Assumptions Hollywood Makes About Women]]

->All throughout this episode, I really tried to picture another ''Trek'' captain doing what Archer does here. And I just couldn't do it. For that matter, I can't imagine any other show making their central character out to be this much of a selfish idiot...I have to wonder if this one episode didn't [[DisasterDominoes hasten the inevitable cancellation.]]
-->-- '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "A Night in Sickbay"

->They never showed us why Lana was so great and why Lana [[KarmaHoudini deserved to be a Superhero.]] Sure they 'told' us more than once but that never matched what they actually showed us. What I saw was [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic a stuck up, deceptive, manipulative witch]] who's opinion of herself was way above and beyond what the reality they showed us was. That is usually okay. Characters like that can work in a story. The problem was everyone else on the show shared Lana's [[SmallNameBigEgo delusions of grandeur]] and that is what killed this story.
-->--'''Douglas Trumble''' [[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville8-ep14 on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}''[='=]s Lana



->"Seriously, Mary Sue, you worry me. You do realize that there is a difference - a very BIG difference - between a cool, collected, liberated woman and a violent, self-aggrandizing bitch? I can't get over how many of you girls think that physically abusing men for no reason other than you're annoyed with them makes you look 'cool'. It doesn't. You do realize that punching men for talking to you does not make you look feisty and independent, it makes you look dangerously unhinged and would not serve to endear you to anyone, still less the man you've just punched?"
-->'''LJ user sevendials''', from [[http://fanficrants.livejournal.com/3496750.html a post on Fanfic Rants]]

->This is someone I spent seven years dreading every time he appeared on-camera, and very rarely found things turned out better than I thought. I'm not gonna pretend I want to see him leave the ship in triumph two episodes from the end. I wanna see him do the ''[[Series/GameOfThrones GoT]]'' walk of shame -- except with some pants on, because if you look at Neelix's junk you'll [[FanDisservice turn into a pillar of salt.]] I wanna see him exit [[ThrownOutTheAirlock via an airlock]] that someone has labeled "EMERGENCY BATHROOM" with a ripped piece of cardboard and magic marker.
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Homestead"



->People change their personalities, storylines shift and flip like a mechanical maze popping up new paths and lowering old gates in order to keep Macho Sue from ever, ever having to backtrack. As Creator/JohnWayne says, 'Never say sorry - it's a sign of weakness.'
-->'''[[http://www.kitwhitfield.com Kit Whitfield]]''', from the article "[[http://kitwhitfield.blogspot.com/2008/03/macho-sue.html Macho Sue]]"

->"Seriously, Mary Sue, you worry me. You do realize that there is a difference - a very BIG difference - between a cool, collected, liberated woman and a violent, self-aggrandizing bitch? I can't get over how many of you girls think that physically abusing men for no reason other than you're annoyed with them makes you look 'cool'. It doesn't. You do realize that punching men for talking to you does not make you look feisty and independent, it makes you look dangerously unhinged and would not serve to endear you to anyone, still less the man you've just punched?"
-->'''LJ user sevendials''', from [[http://fanficrants.livejournal.com/3496750.html a post on Fanfic Rants]]

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->People change their personalities, storylines shift ->They never showed us why Lana was so great and flip why Lana [[KarmaHoudini deserved to be a Superhero.]] Sure they 'told' us more than once but that never matched what they actually showed us. What I saw was [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic a stuck up, deceptive, manipulative witch]] who's opinion of herself was way above and beyond what the reality they showed us was. That is usually okay. Characters like that can work in a mechanical maze popping up new paths story. The problem was everyone else on the show shared Lana's [[SmallNameBigEgo delusions of grandeur]] and lowering old gates in order that is what killed this story.
-->--'''Douglas Trumble''' [[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville8-ep14 on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}''[='=]s Lana

->The next thing you need
to keep Macho Sue from ever, ever having to backtrack. As Creator/JohnWayne says, 'Never say sorry - do is create your main character, and since it's a sign of weakness.'
-->'''[[http://www.kitwhitfield.com Kit Whitfield]]''', from
important to {{write who you know}}, the article "[[http://kitwhitfield.blogspot.com/2008/03/macho-sue.html Macho Sue]]"

->"Seriously, Mary Sue,
main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you worry me. You do realize that there is are a difference - a very BIG difference - between a cool, collected, liberated woman and a violent, self-aggrandizing bitch? I can't get over how many of you girls think that physically abusing men for repressed, socially retarded dullard who no reason other than you're annoyed with them makes you look 'cool'. It doesn't. You do realize that punching men for talking to you does not make you look feisty and independent, it makes you look dangerously unhinged and one would not serve ever honestly admit to endear you to anyone, still less the man you've just punched?"
-->'''LJ user sevendials''', from [[http://fanficrants.livejournal.com/3496750.html
liking, your author insertion character is a post fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on Fanfic Rants]]fire.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
9th Oct '15 5:33:00 PM RainFairy
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->"Seriously, Mary Sue, you worry me. You do realize that there is a difference - a very BIG difference - between a cool, collected, liberated woman and a violent, self-aggrandizing bitch? I can't get over how many of you girls think that physically abusing men for no reason other than you're annoyed with them makes you look 'cool'. It doesn't. You do realize that punching men for talking to you does not make you look feisty and independent, it makes you look dangerously unhinged and would not serve to endear you to anyone, still less the man you've just punched?"
-->'''LJ user sevendials''', from [[http://fanficrants.livejournal.com/3496750.html a post on Fanfic Rants]]
20th Jul '15 10:07:18 AM johnnyfog
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->Bakula describes Archer's behavior as "a little over the line" in this episode. Yes, that's a fair assessment. Also, [[{{Understatement}} 9/11 was a little bit of a bummer]]...I'm so very tired.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "A Night in Sickbay"

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->Bakula describes Archer's behavior as "a little over the line" in ->All throughout this episode. Yes, that's a fair assessment. Also, [[{{Understatement}} 9/11 was a little bit episode, I really tried to picture another ''Trek'' captain doing what Archer does here. And I just couldn't do it. For that matter, I can't imagine any other show making their central character out to be this much of a bummer]]...I'm so very tired.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth'''''
selfish idiot...I have to wonder if this one episode didn't [[DisasterDominoes hasten the inevitable cancellation.]]
-->-- '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth'''''
on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "A Night in Sickbay"
19th Jul '15 2:11:50 PM johnnyfog
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->I'm not gonna pretend I want to see him leave the ship in triumph two episodes from the end. I wanna see him do the ''[[Series/GameOfThrones GoT]]'' walk of shame -- except with some pants on, because if you look at Neelix's junk you'll [[FanDisservice turn into a pillar of salt.]] I wanna see him exit [[ThrownOutTheAirlock via an airlock]] that someone has labeled "EMERGENCY BATHROOM" with a ripped piece of cardboard and magic marker.

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->I'm ->This is someone I spent seven years dreading every time he appeared on-camera, and very rarely found things turned out better than I thought. I'm not gonna pretend I want to see him leave the ship in triumph two episodes from the end. I wanna see him do the ''[[Series/GameOfThrones GoT]]'' walk of shame -- except with some pants on, because if you look at Neelix's junk you'll [[FanDisservice turn into a pillar of salt.]] I wanna see him exit [[ThrownOutTheAirlock via an airlock]] that someone has labeled "EMERGENCY BATHROOM" with a ripped piece of cardboard and magic marker.
19th Jul '15 2:10:42 PM johnnyfog
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->I'm not gonna pretend I want to see him leave the ship in triumph two episodes from the end. I wanna see him do the ''[[Series/GameOfThrones GoT]]'' walk of shame -- except with some pants on, because if you look at Neelix's junk you'll [[FanDisservice turn into a pillar of salt.]] I wanna see him exit [[ThrownOutTheAirlock via an airlock]] that someone has labeled "EMERGENCY BATHROOM" with a ripped piece of cardboard and magic marker.
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Homestead"
13th Jun '15 3:51:48 PM johnnyfog
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->''As Karma for another episode of atrocious behaviour, Zack's hit on by a hot redhead who asks him if he believes in love at first sight, whom he follows offscreen with the kind of smile that says ''“By the time I'm done with her, she'll have [[BastardBoyfriend a thighful of self-harm scars and an eating disorder]], or my name's not Zack Morris!”''

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->''As ->As Karma for another episode of atrocious behaviour, Zack's [[KarmaHoudini hit on by a hot redhead redhead]] who asks him if he believes in love at first sight, whom he follows offscreen with the kind of smile that says ''“By the time I'm done with her, she'll have [[BastardBoyfriend a thighful of self-harm scars and an eating disorder]], or my name's not Zack Morris!”'' Morris!”''
13th Jun '15 3:51:25 PM johnnyfog
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->''As Karma for another episode of atrocious behaviour, Zack's hit on by a hot redhead who asks him if he believes in love at first sight, whom he follows offscreen with the kind of smile that says ''“By the time I'm done with her, she'll have [[BastardBoyfriend a thighful of self-harm scars and an eating disorder]], or my name's not Zack Morris!”''
-->--'''Stuart Millard''' on ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' ("The Aftermath"), ''So Excited, So Scared''
9th Jun '15 8:26:34 AM johnnyfog
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->The essential story structure of a Macho Sue tends to revolve around untouchable pride. If love means never having to say you're sorry, being Macho Sue means the whole of reality loves you. Typically, Macho Sue's storyline follows a certain trajectory: he begins by acting egregiously, picking or provoking fights and causing problems. However much the ensuing difficulties can be laid at his door, Macho Sue is not about to apologise, in any way. So the problems continue - only to be salvaged by some immense reversals that give the impression that he was right all along. The man he insulted turns out, suddenly, to be a bad guy. The woman who dislikes him falls into his strong arms when he solves a problem that is not the same problem he caused for her. People change their personalities, storylines shift and flip like a mechanical maze popping up new paths and lowering old gates in order to keep Macho Sue from ever, ever having to backtrack. As Creator/JohnWayne says, 'Never say sorry - it's a sign of weakness.'

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->The essential story structure of a Macho Sue tends to revolve around untouchable pride. If love means never having to say you're sorry, being Macho Sue means the whole of reality loves you. Typically, Macho Sue's storyline follows a certain trajectory: he begins by acting egregiously, picking or provoking fights and causing problems. However much the ensuing difficulties can be laid at his door, Macho Sue is not about to apologise, in any way. So the problems continue - only to be salvaged by some immense reversals that give the impression that he was right all along. The man he insulted turns out, suddenly, to be a bad guy. The woman who dislikes him falls into his strong arms when he solves a problem that is not the same problem he caused for her. People ->People change their personalities, storylines shift and flip like a mechanical maze popping up new paths and lowering old gates in order to keep Macho Sue from ever, ever having to backtrack. As Creator/JohnWayne says, 'Never say sorry - it's a sign of weakness.'
9th Jun '15 8:26:14 AM johnnyfog
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->The narrative of Strauss's book is at best bipolar if not outright schizophrenic. Alongside the story of his evolution from self-loathing ([[FromNobodyToNightmare but probably decent]]) human being to totally-awesome-stud-alpha-game-messiah is the contrasting tragic tear-jerking meltdown(s) of the lovable-douchey-attention-whore called 'Mystery'. Though Strauss makes great effort to critique the the vain emptiness of some aspects of the game culture and the transformation of nice goofy guys into slick greaseballs, he behaves in almost the exact same way but paints his exploits in a radioactive awesome colour (because when the alpha-game-messiah does it [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality it's all cool braaah]]). And so throughout the book Strauss gets to have it all ways. He assures us he's a nice guy by denouncing the real scum-bags and bitchy women, paints game-brohs as multi-dimentional guys with complex personalities and fragile hearts, describes women as moronic fem-bots and or bitchy catty witches, is totally a nice guy, lists his glorious herculian conquests, acts like a douche-bag, reminds you he's really a nice guy and throughout tells a journalistic narrative in both the first and third person... By the end the only unquestionably good lesson anyone should take from it is that having your cake and eating it too is very possible in autobiographical narratives.
-->--'''''Wiki/RationalWiki''''' on Neil Strauss, the Moses of Pick-Up culture
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