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-> '''Mal''': So me and mine gotta lay down and die... so you can live in your better world?
-> '''The Operative''': I'm not going to live there. There's [[NoPlaceForMeThere no place for me there]]... any more than there is for you. Malcolm... I'm a monster. [[NecessarilyEvil What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done]].
-->-- ''Film/{{Serenity}}''
->'''Rorschach''': Blake's murder. You confess?\\
'''The BigBad''': "Confession" implies repentance. I merely [[DistinctionWithoutADifference regret his involvement]].
-->-- ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''
-> '''The Operative''': I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin.
-> '''Mal''': So me and mine gotta lay down and die... so you can live in your better world?
-> '''The Operative''': I'm not going to live there. There's [[NoPlaceForMeThere no place for me there]]... any more than there is for you. Malcolm... I'm a monster. [[NecessarilyEvil What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done]].
-->-- ''Film/{{Serenity}}''
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'''The BigBad''': "Confession" implies repentance. I merely [[DistinctionWithoutADifference regret his involvement]].
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->'''Alexandria''': Not the secret. Echidna. Four capes were inside her when she was scoured away. More were injured or killed in the course of the fight, or in Shatterbird's attack. We can't cover that up. We shouldn't. They were good capes. But we can't tell the whole story.
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->'''Rime''': [[BrokenPedestal You don’t get to say that. You have no place, saying that.]]
->'''Alexandria''': I won’t argue. Everything we did, we did for the right reasons. I understand it’s ugly, without the context.
-->--''Literature/{{Worm}}''
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->''"That's it, is it? I'm not virtuous enough for you, not noble? Fine, quit! Next time you need a deal made, call the Dalai Lama. A long time ago, I had to make a choice between being a good agent and a good person, because trust me, you can't be both! So forgive me if I don't have time to make everybody warm and fuzzy. I am just too busy spending every waking minute pouring any drink, pulling any shameless tricks I can to make my clients' dreams come true! '''[[LargeHam I AM A STARMAKER!]]'''''STARMAKER]]!'''"''
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'''Kaji''':''"But you knew had to, [...] You had a reason."''
'''Kaji''':''"You made hard choices. And you had your responsibilities."''\\
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'''Jake:''' Yeah, but I made the call. I pulled the plug. So why don't you tell me: How is that prosecutor wrong? [[NotSoDifferent How is Visser One evil]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters and I'm not?]] I'd really like to know that.\\
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'''Jake:''' Yeah, but I made the call. I pulled the plug. So why don't you tell me: How is that prosecutor wrong? [[NotSoDifferent How is Visser One evil]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters How is Visser One evil and I'm not?]] not]]? I'd really like to know that.\\
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'''Cassie:''' No, Jake, it isn't. There are a lot of close calls in history, lots of wars where the blame is evenly split between the sides. This isn't one of them [...] This one is clear: We are the victims. They made war on us.\\
-- ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' #54, ''The Beginning''
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'''Cassie:''' No, Jake, it isn't. There are a lot of close calls in history, lots of wars where the blame is evenly split between the sides. This isn't one of them [...] This one is clear: We are the victims. They made war on us.\\
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->'''Jake:''' She called me a war criminal.\\
'''Cassie:''' She's wrong.\\
'''Marco:''' Did what you had to do, man. We all did.\\
'''Ax:''' <Jake, it was I who pointed out the possibilities to you. I pointed out that the Yeerk pool aboard the ship could be drained.>\\
'''Jake:''' Yeah, but I made the call. I pulled the plug. So why don't you tell me: How is that prosecutor wrong? [[NotSoDifferent How is Visser One evil]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters and I'm not?]] I'd really like to know that.\\
'''Cassie:''' Jake, I've thought a lot about this... I've had to think about it because I've done the same things you've done, Jake. You were the leader, but if you're a war criminal then [[JustFollowingOrders so are we for following you]]. I've had to make my own peace with things I've done.\\
Jake, you can't...You can't equate the victim and the perpetrator.\\
'''Jake:''' So as long as you're playing defense it's not possible to commit a war crime? That's pretty close to just saying that the winner makes the rules because the winner writes the history.\\
'''Cassie:''' No, Jake, it isn't. There are a lot of close calls in history, lots of wars where the blame is evenly split between the sides. This isn't one of them [...] This one is clear: We are the victims. They made war on us.\\
-->-- ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' #54, ''The Beginning''
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'''Marco:''' Did what you had to do, man. We all did.\\
'''Ax:''' <Jake, it was I who pointed out the possibilities to you. I pointed out that the Yeerk pool aboard the ship could be drained.>\\
'''Jake:''' Yeah, but I made the call. I pulled the plug. So why don't you tell me: How is that prosecutor wrong? [[NotSoDifferent How is Visser One evil]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters and I'm not?]] I'd really like to know that.\\
'''Cassie:''' Jake, I've thought a lot about this... I've had to think about it because I've done the same things you've done, Jake. You were the leader, but if you're a war criminal then [[JustFollowingOrders so are we for following you]]. I've had to make my own peace with things I've done.\\
Jake, you can't...You can't equate the victim and the perpetrator.\\
'''Jake:''' So as long as you're playing defense it's not possible to commit a war crime? That's pretty close to just saying that the winner makes the rules because the winner writes the history.\\
'''Cassie:''' No, Jake, it isn't. There are a lot of close calls in history, lots of wars where the blame is evenly split between the sides. This isn't one of them [...] This one is clear: We are the victims. They made war on us.\\
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'''Shepard:''' Spectres don't blow up buildings with innocent people!\\
'''Tela Vasir:''' Sure we do. We get our hands dirty so the Council doesn't have to. The councilors might complain about our methods to soothe their consciences but they never look too closely.
-->-- ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''
'''Shepard:''' Spectres don't blow up buildings with innocent people!\\
'''Tela Vasir:''' Sure we do. We get our hands dirty so the Council doesn't have to. The councilors might complain about our methods to soothe their consciences but they never look too closely.
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->'''[[CaptainPatriotic Miss Militia]]''': Rebuild it.
->'''Skitter''': And you’re doing it by starting with a lie. Just like [[BrokenPedestal they]] did.
->'''Miss Militia''': Yes. There’s no pretty, perfect answers, and concessions have to be made. Questions and issues on a greater scale mean more repercussions for failure, and they call for bigger concessions if we want to ensure success.
-->-- '''Miss Militia and Skitter''' discuss lying to the public for the greater good, ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', [[http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/cell-22-6/ Cell 22.6]]
->'''[[CaptainPatriotic Miss Militia]]''': Rebuild it.
->'''Skitter''': And you’re doing it by starting with a lie. Just like [[BrokenPedestal they]] did.
->'''Miss Militia''': Yes. There’s no pretty, perfect answers, and concessions have to be made. Questions and issues on a greater scale mean more repercussions for failure, and they call for bigger concessions if we want to ensure success.
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'''ComicBook/CarolDanvers:''' Well, it wasn’t something I enjoyed. If there was a different way to go back and do it, I would. But we were in battle. It’s the age-old soldier’s question. 'Who's it gonna be, me or him?' I didn’t have anything against him. But I imagine every one of you knows about war.
-->-- ''Fanfic/APrizeForThreeEmpires''
'''ComicBook/CarolDanvers:''' Well, it wasn’t something I enjoyed. If there was a different way to go back and do it, I would. But we were in battle. It’s the age-old soldier’s question. 'Who's it gonna be, me or him?' I didn’t have anything against him. But I imagine every one of you knows about war.
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->'''Dev-Em:''' It was an inforunning operation out of a Dark Circle world. My contact was a man in deep cover. Their cointelpro caught up to us just after an information drop. We had made arrangements on what to do if such a thing happened. I exposed him as a traitor. My cover held. He was taken away, tortured, and killed. I got the package through. Later, I saw to it that his torturers got theirs. No, I didn't do it personally... but I made sure it was done. That's how it is in my world. Not pretty, but we get the job done.\\
'''[[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} Kara Zor-El]]:''' ...\\
'''Dev-Em:''' No, don't think I enjoyed it. Rolg's face still comes to me in a particularly juicy nightmare every now and then. But he has to wait his time in line. And you know what he tells me? He tells me about the people of that world who were liberated, in time, with the information I got through. He tells me that I did the right thing.
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->'''[[TheCape Alexandria]]''': Not the secret. Echidna. Four capes were inside her when she was scoured away. More were injured or killed in the course of the fight, or in Shatterbird’s attack. We can’t cover that up. We shouldn’t. They were good capes. But we can’t tell the whole story.
->'''[[AnIcePerson Rime]]''': [[BrokenPedestal You don’t get to say that. You have no place, saying that.]]
->'''Alexandria''': I won’t argue. Everything we did, we did for the right reasons. I understand it’s ugly, without the context.
-->--''Literature/{{Worm}}''
->'''[[TheCape Alexandria]]''': Not the secret. Echidna. Four capes were inside her when she was scoured away. More were injured or killed in the course of the fight, or in Shatterbird’s attack. We can’t cover that up. We shouldn’t. They were good capes. But we can’t tell the whole story.
->'''[[AnIcePerson Rime]]''': [[BrokenPedestal You don’t get to say that. You have no place, saying that.]]
->'''Alexandria''': I won’t argue. Everything we did, we did for the right reasons. I understand it’s ugly, without the context.
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'''Misato''':''"So much blood, Kaji. I have so much blood on my hands."''\\
'''Kaji''':''"But you knew had to, [...] You had a reason."''
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->''Yes, I'll "win". The [[AttackOfThePoliticalAd dirtiest campaign]] in the history of corrupt politics. And if I win, I must fill all the dishonest pledges made in my name.''
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->'''[[VillainProtagonist Skitter]]''': Are you fighting to keep the PRT going, or are you working to rebuild it?
->'''[[CaptainPatriotic Miss Militia]]''': Rebuild it.
->'''Skitter''': And you’re doing it by starting with a lie. Just like [[BrokenPedestal they]] did.
->'''Miss Militia''': Yes. There’s no pretty, perfect answers, and concessions have to be made. Questions and issues on a greater scale mean more repercussions for failure, and they call for bigger concessions if we want to ensure success.
-->-- '''Miss Militia and Skitter''' discuss lying to the public for the greater good, ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', [[http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/cell-22-6/ Cell 22.6]]
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To do'' something, ''to do what you feel sure is right and in the aid of justice, you sometimes have to do things that, when recalled on lonely nights, make you wonder if in fact you are the good man that you like to believe you are.''
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->'''Rorschach:''' Blake's murder. You confess?\\
'''[[spoiler:Adrian Veidt:]]''' 'Confession' implies repentance. I merely regret his involvement.
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'''[[spoiler:Adrian Veidt:]]''' 'Confession' implies repentance. I merely regret his involvement.
-->-- ''Comics/{{Watchmen}}''
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