History Quotes / AtopTheFourthWall

17th Jan '17 7:30:38 PM kjc609
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[[SayMyName LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[CatchPhrase HE IS A MAN! *PUNCH*!]] [[ArmCannon What's that on his arm?]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[ContinuitySnarl Can't seem to fix the Continuity Alarm.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[TheNewRockAndRoll Rock and roll,]] [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Insano,]] [[DropInCharacter some feller in a tux.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[PunctuatedForEmphasis This! Comic! SUCKS!]]\\

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[[SayMyName LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop [[TitleDrop (Atop The Fourth Wall]]) Wall)]] [[CatchPhrase HE IS A MAN! *PUNCH*!]] [[ArmCannon What's that on his arm?]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop [[TitleDrop (Atop The Fourth Wall]]) Wall)]] [[ContinuitySnarl Can't seem to fix the Continuity Alarm.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop [[TitleDrop (Atop The Fourth Wall]]) Wall)]] [[TheNewRockAndRoll Rock and roll,]] [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Insano,]] [[DropInCharacter some feller in a tux.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop [[TitleDrop (Atop The Fourth Wall]]) Wall)]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis This! Comic! SUCKS!]]\\
16th Jan '17 9:22:31 PM kjc609
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[[SayMyName LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]])[[CatchPhrase HE IS A MAN! *PUNCH*!]] [[ArmCannon What's that on his arm?]]\\

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[[SayMyName LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]])[[CatchPhrase Wall]]) [[CatchPhrase HE IS A MAN! *PUNCH*!]] [[ArmCannon What's that on his arm?]]\\



[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]])[[TheNewRockAndRoll Rock and roll,]] [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Insano,]] [[DropInCharacter some feller in a tux.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]]([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[PunctuatedForEmphasis This! Comic! SUCKS!]]\\

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[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]])[[TheNewRockAndRoll Wall]]) [[TheNewRockAndRoll Rock and roll,]] [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Insano,]] [[DropInCharacter some feller in a tux.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]]([[TitleDrop LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[PunctuatedForEmphasis This! Comic! SUCKS!]]\\
16th Jan '17 9:21:40 PM kjc609
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[[SayMyName LINKARA!]] [[CatchPhrase HE IS A MAN! *PUNCH*!]] [[ArmCannon What's that on his arm?]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] [[ContinuitySnarl Can't seem to fix the Continuity Alarm.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] [[TheNewRockAndRoll Rock and roll,]] [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Insano,]] [[DropInCharacter some feller in a tux.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis This! Comic! SUCKS!]]\\

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[[SayMyName LINKARA!]] [[CatchPhrase ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]])[[CatchPhrase HE IS A MAN! *PUNCH*!]] [[ArmCannon What's that on his arm?]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[ContinuitySnarl Can't seem to fix the Continuity Alarm.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] [[TheNewRockAndRoll ([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]])[[TheNewRockAndRoll Rock and roll,]] [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Insano,]] [[DropInCharacter some feller in a tux.]]\\
[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall LINKARA!]] LINKARA!]]([[TitleDrop Atop The Fourth Wall]]) [[PunctuatedForEmphasis This! Comic! SUCKS!]]\\
29th Oct '16 2:42:30 PM AnotherGuy
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He's not a lamp! But! He wears a lampshade!\\

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He's not a lamp! But! [[LampshadeHanging He wears a lampshade!\\lampshade!]]\\
2nd Sep '16 11:05:20 PM mariic
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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole [[SuperRegistrationAct "Pro or anti registration" thing.]] [[TakeAThirdOption I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration.]] Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but sure as hell not what we get in this event.]] One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. [[ButThouMust If you have superpowers, you]] ''[[ButThouMust will]]'' [[ButThouMust follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero.]] [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books.) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic,]] the rise of super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitari were going to invade whether there were super humans or not,]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger HYDRA would still have been a thing,]] [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed etcetera.]] People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disregard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, [[HumansAreBastards where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that.]] [[RossauWasRight For the most part, people want to help each other, to do good and make the world better.]] That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]

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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole [[SuperRegistrationAct "Pro or anti registration" thing.]] [[TakeAThirdOption I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration.]] Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but sure as hell not what we get in this event.]] One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. [[ButThouMust If you have superpowers, you]] ''[[ButThouMust will]]'' [[ButThouMust follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero.]] [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books.) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic,]] the rise of super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitari were going to invade whether there were super humans or not,]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger HYDRA would still have been a thing,]] [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed etcetera.]] People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disregard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, [[HumansAreBastards where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that.]] [[RossauWasRight [[RousseauWasRight For the most part, people want to help each other, to do good and make the world better.]] That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]
2nd Sep '16 11:04:19 PM mariic
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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole [[SuperRegistrationAct "Pro or anti registration" thing.]] [[TakeAThirdOption I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration.]] Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but sure as hell not what we get in this event.]] One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. [[ButThouMust If you have superpowers, you]] ''[[ButThouMust will]]'' [[ButThouMust follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero.]] [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books.) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic,]] the rise of super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitari were going to invade whether there were super humans or not,]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger HYDRA would still have been a thing,]] [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed etcetera.]] People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disregard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, [[HumansAreBastards where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that.]] [[RoussauWasRight For the most part, people want to help each other, to do good and make the world better.]] That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]

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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole [[SuperRegistrationAct "Pro or anti registration" thing.]] [[TakeAThirdOption I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration.]] Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but sure as hell not what we get in this event.]] One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. [[ButThouMust If you have superpowers, you]] ''[[ButThouMust will]]'' [[ButThouMust follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero.]] [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books.) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic,]] the rise of super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitari were going to invade whether there were super humans or not,]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger HYDRA would still have been a thing,]] [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed etcetera.]] People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disregard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, [[HumansAreBastards where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that.]] [[RoussauWasRight [[RossauWasRight For the most part, people want to help each other, to do good and make the world better.]] That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]
2nd Sep '16 11:03:28 PM mariic
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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole "Pro or anti registration" thing. I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration. Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, but sure as hell not what we get in this event. One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. If you have superpowers, you ''will'' follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero. [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books.) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic,]] the rise of super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitari were going to invade]] whether there were super humans or not, HYDRA would still have been a thing, etcetera. People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disreguard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that. For the most part, people want to ''help'' each other, to do good and make the world better. That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]

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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole [[SuperRegistrationAct "Pro or anti registration" thing. thing.]] [[TakeAThirdOption I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration. ]] Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but sure as hell not what we get in this event. event.]] One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. [[ButThouMust If you have superpowers, you ''will'' you]] ''[[ButThouMust will]]'' [[ButThouMust follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero. superhero.]] [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books.) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic,]] the rise of super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitari were going to invade]] invade whether there were super humans or not, not,]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger HYDRA would still have been a thing, etcetera. thing,]] [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed etcetera.]] People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disreguard Disregard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, [[HumansAreBastards where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that. that.]] [[RoussauWasRight For the most part, people want to ''help'' help each other, to do good and make the world better. better.]] That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]
2nd Sep '16 10:56:35 PM mariic
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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole "Pro or anti registration" thing. I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration. Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, but sure as hell not what we get in this event. One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. If you have superpowers, you ''will'' follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero. It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the X-Men. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books. Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in the movie version of the comic, the rise of superpowered beings did not mean an escalation of damage, the Chitauri were going to invade whether there were superhumans or not. HYDRA would still have been a thing, etcetera. People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts, and use them to help people to the best of their abilities, often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disreguard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that. For the most part, people want to ''help'' each other, to do good and make the world better. That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]

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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole "Pro or anti registration" thing. I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration. Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, but sure as hell not what we get in this event. One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. If you have superpowers, you ''will'' follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero. [[OlderThanTheyThink It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the X-Men.the]] ComicBook/XMen. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books. ) Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar the movie version of the comic, comic,]] the rise of superpowered super powered beings did not mean an escalation of damage, damage: [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Chitauri Chitari were going to invade invade]] whether there were superhumans super humans or not. not, HYDRA would still have been a thing, etcetera. People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts, gifts [[ComesGreatResponsibility and use them to help people to the best of their abilities, abilities]], often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disreguard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that. For the most part, people want to ''help'' each other, to do good and make the world better. That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]
2nd Sep '16 10:50:01 PM mariic
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-> Let's talk about where I stand on the whole "Pro or anti registration" thing. I'm... mostly anti-registration, but am completely open to voluntary registration. Not necessarily of secret identities, but at least with the government knowing you're out there and who to contact about you. ''Some'' bureaucracy, but sure as hell not what we get in this event. One of the things that came out of this was the 50 State Initiative: each American state having at least one superhero team of their own. The thing is though, as we ended up seeing, ideas like the 50 State Initiative, at their core, were ''not'' about training and accountability, but conscription and militarization. If you have superpowers, you ''will'' follow this mandate, even if you don't want to use them as a superhero. It's the next of kin to the dreaded Mutant Registration act that always hung over the X-Men. (Ironically, the X-Men were mostly neutral in this conflict because of crap going on in their own books. Don't get me wrong: collateral damage, both in buildings, and in human casualties, ''is'' a problem. There should be accountability when things go wrong, and hell, there ''should'' be formal training in people's powers. Despite what Vision claimed in the movie version of the comic, the rise of superpowered beings did not mean an escalation of damage, the Chitauri were going to invade whether there were superhumans or not. HYDRA would still have been a thing, etcetera. People like the Avengers are not ''trying'' to cause problems. Their presence does not automatically mean there will be collateral damage. ''They're a response to the rising threats.'' These are the people who have been granted incredible gifts, and use them to help people to the best of their abilities, often times at a sacrifice not others are willing to make. Because the thing is, we already ''have'' a term for beings who have incredible powers beyond the average human, that use their powers without regard for life, property, and the well-being of others: '''Super villains.'' Super ''Heroes'', on the other hand, ''do'' care about collateral damage. They ''do'' feel guilty and traumatized and remorseful for what has happened, but they're not the ones who ''started'' it. Disreguard anything your parents ever said about "It not mattering who started it". If that was true, no one would be allowed to defend themselves or others. Superheroes exist for a reason within these universes, because we don't live in [[TakeThat the stupid world of]] Film/ThePurge, where people just wanna be assholes all the time and hurt others or crap like that. For the most part, people want to ''help'' each other, to do good and make the world better. That's what superheroes wanna do. But there are some people who are selfish, greedy, misguided, criminally insane, or just sadistic enough and wield power that cannot be stopped by ordinary humans. If they could, there wouldn't be a ''need'' for superheroes... The Registration Act turns these very people, who risked life and limb to save people over and over, into criminals. You are punishing people for trying to do the right thing. Forget about all the stupid, immoral jackassery on display in this event, the real reason that unites these two sides is that they want to be superheroes. They want to help people and to stop the bad guys. But the only thing that the creators did with this comic was [[HeWhoFightsMonsters turn the good guys into the bad guys.]]
-->-- '''Linkara''' on why he hates ComicBook/CivilWar
29th Aug '16 10:55:48 AM chasemaddigan
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