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* TheIncredibleHulk has been this for years and years, but it became most apparent in WorldWarHulk where he easily defeats people he has no business defeating, like Comicbook/DoctorStrange.
** Doc Strange was {{justified|Trope}}, however poorly, mainly due to exploiting the fact that the characters are friends instead of a set of powers to be thrown against each other (Banner disabled Strange before the fight by tricking him and playing on his emotions). Aside from Strange, Hulk beating everyone else he beats in WorldWarHulk is completely reasonable.
** There seem to be two competing ideas about how the Hulk should be used; one sticks closer to his original conception as "the strongest one there is" with a few exceptions. The other sees him as a perfect candidate for TheWorfEffect and not much else.
* Franchise/{{Batman}} has become a walking DeusExMachina in comic books and "versus debates" thanks to the words [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]]. Given enough prep time, [[MemeticBadass he is speculated to be able to defeat]]: {{Superman}}, {{Galactus}}, {{Darkseid}}, [[ComicBook/TheSandman Death]], Taxes, Tofu, and Jelly Beans. The sheer amount of times he's faced Superman and lived would qualify him here even if nothing else would.
** The 'Batman smacks down Superman' issue was subverted in ''[[ComicBook/DCTheNewFrontier The New Frontier]]''; initially, it appears that Batman handed Superman his cape after Superman attempted to arrest Batman, who was refusing to [[SuperRegistrationAct register or resign as a superhero]]. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that the two men staged it as a protest against [=McCarthyism=] and the witch-hunts of the 1950s. At Superman's urging, no less.]]
** More concretely, he made contingency plans in one arc to take each member of the ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' down should they go crazy. Of course, they [[GoneHorriblyWrong fall into the wrong hands]], and work remarkably well on all the heroes.
** Even those plans are sometimes criticized by readers. The plan against Flash, for example, relies on him vibrating through a special bullet, instead of just, y'know, moving out of the way.
** In several stories, it's later expanded to note that every single one of the Justice League members have at least some vague plan to take out their team-members in case any one of them goes rogue. They vary in effectiveness, though. [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan's]] contingency plan shows one of his own moments of PopularityPower - his plan to defeat Batman was to create a jetpack, strap it to him, and shoot him as far away as possible to be sure. Despite certain obvious flaws, his plan ''worked''(even if it was entirely unnecessary for a guy that can casually exceed the speed of light and destroy planets without trying).
** The entire issue is parodied in [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/000745.html this]] ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'' strip.
** In one alternate universe, after Jason Todd was killed Batman went ...a ''little'' more nuts than normal...and ''killed every single villain on Earth'', resulting in a utopia. ''No one thought this was unlikely.''
** Fortunately AlanMoore seems to be immune to PopularityPower. During Moore's run on Comicbook/SwampThing Batman takes on the much more powerful title character with plenty of prep time after making careful preparations, including putting wood cutting buzz-saws on the Batmobile and bringing a herbicide thrower. Comicbook/SwampThing wipes the floor with him.
*** There are a few crossovers where Batman isn't shown as an all-around invincible badass. In one crossover between Spider-Man and Batman, they got into a brief scuffle and Peter grabbed Bats, tossed him half-way across the building. The priceless look on Bruce's face said it all as he was being thrown so easily.
** And sometimes, even [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]] is unnecessary. Like putting down Cheetah, who is a recurrent Wonder Woman villain, at times able to take a punch from Superman (who, for the uninitiated, has SuperStrength and SuperSpeed, which Batman lacks), with a single punch, running with three adults on his back, and sucking enough bullets to sink a frigate. And apparently, [[TripleShifter doesn't need to sleep]].
** One issue of Batman Confidential had him fighting several members of the proto-Justice League. He took down WonderWoman, TheFlash, Comicbook/GreenLantern, and Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}. This was their first meeting, and he didn't know what any of their abilities were when the fight started. It helped that neither did the writer. Let's see... throwing a smoke bomb in front of The Flash is yet another example of writers forgetting that 1. He has SuperReflexes and even so wouldn't immediately crash into a wall if blinded 2. If you're in a small room with The Flash, there is no time to throw something before he reaches you. There's not time for a human to do ''anything'' before he reaches you. Wonder Woman cannot be taken out by kicking her in the stomach with human strength. At a best case scenario it's ineffective. Worse case, you break your foot. The same goes for MartianManhunter. Batman's ability to manhandle Aquaman or utterly incapacitate Comicbook/GreenLantern with a batrope is also just slightly dubious.
** FrankMiller's Batman/Spawn crossover actually has their fight be even, ''to a degree.'' Batman beats down Spawn, but when Spawn turns the tables the rest of the fight is conviently '''off panel.'''
** Wonder Woman beat down Batman in one of her issues. A criminal Batman was after sought sanctuary in Wonder Woman's headquarters, and Batman demanded she turn her over. Wondy said no. With her foot. In fact, WonderWoman is a good case of RealityEnsues, as his track record against her has been slightly against him. She's a FlyingBrick with no obvious weaknesses who often sees through his ruses.
* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker has been such a popular villain in all of his incarnations (both in comic books and onscreen) over the past 70+ years that he [[TropeNamer named]] a [[JokerImmunity related trope]].
* Despite allegedly being [[BadassNormal just a hair above maximum human potential]], some of CaptainAmerica's feats have gone seemingly far beyond what he "should" be able to do. Any average human superhero or villain who goes up against him is sure to lose. Even superpowered denizens like {{Spider-Man}} and Wolverine fold before the Cap. And if that weren't enough, Captain America has actually gone rounds against Namor, Hulk, and the other super heavyweights of the MarvelUniverse and STILL come out on top (or at the very least, fought these beings to a draw). Why? Because he's popular. Because he wears the red, white, and blue. And to top it all off, Marvel loves him so much that they'll never have the guy lose, just like DC is never going to have Batman lose.
** This is made especially ridiculous in the animated movie, ''UltimateAvengers'', which has the team fight The Hulk in the finale and has Cap last better than any others who engage him in a direct fight. Notably, The Hulk takes down TheMightyThor (an ACTUAL GOD) in two blows. Cap gets thrown all over the place and manages to endure around/over FOUR. Sure, he's bleeding and disoriented afterwards, but logically he shouldn't even be conscious.
** Although there are a few well-known instances of Captain America subverting this trope. There are plenty of battles where he shows up, makes an inspirational speech about determination over power, then gets his ass handed to him (most famously against Korvac, Thanos, and the Masters of Evil).
** It should be noted that Cap's shield is often described as playing merry havoc with the laws of physics. For example, it's not just indestructible (it can shrug off a direct hit from everything short of Thor with the power of Odin), but it also arrests most (if not all) of the momentum directed at it, too. One imagines that works in reverse when used as a weapon. But still, all it should take is one shot from most people listed here and Cap is down for the count.
*** In a ComicBook/FantasticFour story, Cap's shield takes Gladiator ({{Superman}}'s CaptainErsatz) at bay for minutes. Heat vision ("The heart of a star") and lighting-fast, moon-blasting punches don't even ''ruin the painting'' of the shield. Maybe it's not even CaptainAmerica PopularityPower in action - the Star and Strips logo must be a reality breaker.
*** During the 90s, Cap had an encounter with a few of the X-Men in a scuffle which saw him getting frozen from the waist down by Iceman. The move did ''not'' stop Captain America on his tracks. He then somersaulted across the air and knocked Iceman out ''while his entire lower body was frozen'', meaning that he shouldn't even have the kind of momentum to pull off such a move. Not only that, he effortlessly beat the crap out of Beast. To make things clear, Hank [=McCoy=] is no Hulk or Thor, but he's still a highly dangerous mutant who possesses strength, speed, and agility far better than the best of Olympic athletes AND he can lift well over thirty tons. That didn't stop the Cap from making short work of him. [[FromBadToWorse It got worse]] in the X-Men vs Avengers storyline when Cap went up against Gambit. During the fight, Gambit used his kinetic powers to charge up Cap's suit and levelled him with an explosion that should have reduced any human or peak human fighter to a charred skeleton. Immediately after the explosion, Cap emerged from the blast with no injuries and proceeded to punch Gambit out like nothing happened to him.
** Cap himself puts it best in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2:
-->"I wear the flag. That means I don't lose."
** ComicBook/CivilWar at least is fair about about it. ComicBook/IronMan always wipes the floor with Cap in their various duels, causing him to need rescue by more powerful allies, unless Cap cheats by shorting out his armor in which case ComicBook/IronMan is basically helpless to do anything but lie there and eat shield, not really making Cap look all that powerful.
*** Civil War is also one of the times that Captain America defeated Spider-man. This time Spidey offers a meager justification for it: "There is no 'next move' to read, for him, it's all one long move from start to finish, he has it all planed out in advance while you're still trying to react to his last blow.", which of course ignores quite a number of things about Spidey and Marvel in general but there you have it.
** Deadpool has been shown as possibly being Cap's superior. In their first meeting, Deadpool takes out the (mind-controlled) Captain with [[http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/deadpool/9.jpg a solid hit to the junk]]. In a recent team-up, an enraged Deadpool got into a heated battle with Steve Rogers, now Super Soldier. In that battle, Deadpool managed to put a really good hurting on the former Captain America. Just when it seemed that Deadpool was finally overpowering Rogers, he was shot in the back with several tranquilizer darts to end the battle and even then Deadpool was the one still standing while Cap was the one on his knees who looked worse for wear. Considering how Captain America usually shows up other superheroes like Wolverine and Spider-Man in their own comic books, it's quite amazing that Deadpool managed to come off looking really strong against Captain America with the implication that he might have won their interrupted battle if he were to continue going all-out.
* Heroes aren't the only ones with PopularityPower. DrDoom has become a villainous equivalent of Batman who can defeat anyone (given enough "prep time" (admittedly a FAR more stable claim than Batman, but still quite ridiculous)). Despite being the villain of the story, the good doctor has gained [[DracoInLeatherPants an immense following of fans]] who believe he's capable of defeating anyone and anything, including the most powerful beings in the comic books multiverse. Given enough time to study opponents, it is said that Doom could defeat Thanos, Galactus, Magneto, Hulk, Thor, Darkseid, Superman, Batman, Silver Surfer, Jesus, and even the almighty Rubik's Cube. It really is an almost endless list.
** A really ridiculous example of Doom oozing [[GodModeSue God Mode Suedom]] was during an arc where he teamed up with Dr. Voodoo and battled their way across hordes of demons. Dr. Voodoo got taken down by Ghost Rider but before Ghost Rider could finish Voodoo, Doom came in and took Ghost Rider out with one punch. This is a highly dubious feat considering Ghost Rider has been shown to be able to fight toe to toe with Dr. Strange before, take some of his best attacks, and even defeat the Sorcerer Supreme after a brutal mystical fight. And of course, Doom's powers are only second best compared to Strange. Apparently, the message that the writers want to drive home is that one punch from Doom is greater than the sum of two Sorcerer Supremes put together.
* In the ''Suicide Kings'' {{Deadpool}} storyline, the Punisher beats Deadpool up to the point where he needs rescuing by Outlaw and [[spoiler: Daredevil]]. ''With a sword''. This is despite the Punisher being an ordinary human and Deadpool being a guy in peak physical fitness who heals all injuries, never gets tired and is almost definitely the best swordfighter in the Marvel Universe - plus, it's ''his book!'' In fact, any fight between someone with a HealingFactor and someone without is only going to end one way - that would be why they apparently put DP's factor on a major go-slow for this series.
** Punisher was on the receiving end in a Punisher/Batman crossover. Bats beat him in about two panels and described his fighting style as that of a bar brawler, which given Frank Castle's rather extensive training includes SEAL training and one particular writer went into detail on his martial arts techniques....But mostly, that crossover is also another case of Batman's own PopularityPower at work.
* That time Spidey took down Firelord, a former Herald of Galactus. We're talking Silver Surfer-level power. Granted, Firelord swore he would fight Spider-Man in [[CombatByChampion single combat]] (and not just, you know, OBLITERATE NEW YORK STATE WITH A THOUGHT). Spidey beat him after throwing him in the East River, tricking him into a building in the process of being demolished, and exploding a gas station on him, but come on. This guy flies through stars!
** To further explain how batshit insane this is: Heralds of Galactus are high order {{Reality Warper}}s capable of exceeding the speed of light several thousand times over and demolishing planets without trying.
** And in the storyline immediately ''after'' the Firelord/Spidey fight -- and we mean immediately after, as in the very same day -- Firelord got smacked by the full power of the Sanctuary II battlestation, which had just finished spanking ''the entire Skrull Armada''. Firelord was blasted all the way across the solar system and headfirst into a moon at relativistic velocities... and ''got up out of the smoking crater, staggered a short way, and only then collapsed unconscious''. So, Spidey's fist > Death Star level firepower and near-lightspeed collisions with celestial bodies.
** Said incident was even mocked by Spidey himself in ''MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'', assuming you play as him during the endgame.
-->"Did I mention I beat up Firelord once? No, seriously. Firelord."
* For {{Wolverine}}, take for example ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs_DC Marvel vs. DC/DC vs. Marvel]]'' comics, which was literally one big popularity contest. One issue had a scene in which Wolverine is able to make short work of Lobo, an alien being that gave Superman a run for his money and destroyed an entire planet, in less than four panels, simply because polls showed that his stats were higher that week. Moreover, both of them have regenerative healing, but Lobo is able to regenerate his entire body FromASingleCell if his entire body is destroyed. The best part? The final blow of the fight [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome took place off-panel]], because, apparently, ''even the writers'' couldn't figure out how Wolverine could possibly win.
** According to Stan Lee the "single panel" part is a CoconutSuperpowers moment...the polls were held close enough to the publication of the DC vs. Marvel volumes that most of the comics had to be drawn before the polls were finished. The result was drawing all the fights such that they could easily go either way until the very end.
*** And the artist had drawn an alternate ending depicting Lobo's victory (in fact, only the three final panels were different, where instead of Wolvie, it was Lobo raising his hand, picking the cigar from the counter and smoking it).
** A later issue of Lobo's own comic implied that he was ''paid'' to throw the fight regardless, which ''is'' in-character for him while also nicely avoiding an outright denial.
** The same series also had Wolverine's X-Men teammate Storm hand a smack-down to WonderWoman, which seemed more than a little unlikely to many objective observers; however, ''X-Men'' were selling better than Wonder Woman at the time.
*** Context on the above fight; Storm did not win by keeping the fight at range and spamming typhoons at Diana until she fell over, which would have at least made some kind of sense. Diana was able to make it to melee range and successfully connect with a kick to Storm's head, ''and Storm still stayed conscious''.
** In his "Brainwashed by Hydra" arc, Wolverine takes on the like of Namor, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, and StanLee knows [[WolverinePublicity how many others]], without getting beaten or captured once.
*** Somehow, Wolverine also managed to defeat Hercules with little difficulty. The same guy who's fought evenly with Heralds of Galactus and Thor.
*** A "[[{{Elseworld}} What If...?]]" of this storyline saw Wolverine practically ''wipe out the entire MarvelUniverse''. This was especially headachey because it had Magneto, who canonically pulled the metal from Wolvy's bones and left him for dead in the original, shanked. It did, however, have Kitty prove why phasing is awesome.
* Parodied by the Marvel character of SquirrelGirl, who manages to hand some of the most powerful, godlike villains in the MarvelUniverse a humiliating defeat despite having not particularly impressive superpowers.
** It's reached the point where other people are starting to recognize her tendency to beat nearly godlike beings, with {{Deadpool}} gaining extra recognition for being powerful enough to be defeated by Squirrel Girl.
*** Twice.
** This is helped along by those writers who dislike the idea of a joke character winning against people who outclass her. Those writers invent {{Ret Con}}s or HandWave the victory away... and the rest of the writers have her beat up someone bigger instead.
** As her squirrel companion Tippy-Toe once pointed out in a BreakingTheFourthWall address to fans who reacted more humorlessly to her tendency to defeat Dr. Doom:
--> "Yeah, that's right. Squirrel Girl totally pwns Doc Doom. Know why? '[[ArmedWithCanon Cause of somethin' that happened in a story by]] '''Steve-freakin'-Ditko'''! That's ''so'' in continuity. [[TakeThat So just deal with it, fanboy]]."
* A notable aversion came in one of the DC/Marvel crossovers, when the JLA went up against the X-Men. Batman, the most popularity-powered character of them all, sprang a surprise attack on Cyclops who, while he has plenty of fans, also attracts more hate than probably any other X-Man (with the possible exception of Gambit). Guess which one got taken down.
* In ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' this is one speculated source of the eponymous Fables' powers. The more popular the story about a Fable is, the more powerful they are. For example, Snow White recovered from a sniper's bullet to the skull--her sister Rose Red might not have survived since most people have forgotten her part of the fairytale-- Frau Totenkinder is one of the most powerful Fables in existence because she is every anonymous witch in folklore, and Goldilocks raises this to a level bordering on BlessedWithSuck when she discovers she can't heal any faster than the fish are eating her.
** Jack Horner, who is every Jack in fairy tales (except Jack Sprat), exploited this by going to Hollywood and making a trilogy of movies about him. He's now effectively immortal, but [[GoodThingYouCanHeal not invincible]].
** The series has actually avoided directly answering the question on whether PopularityPower is actually in effect. Frau Totenkinder for her part actually expresses doubt on whether it is or not.
* {{Deadpool}} once realized that this was the reason that he can never die, so [[DeathSeeker in order to die]] he decided to [[spoiler: go out and [[TakeThat kill]] [[NoFourthWall all of his fans]]]].
** Does the same in ''Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe''. He also gives an interesting speech to Wolverine about his healing factor. He states that it's incredibly fitting: the popular character has a power that makes him immune to death. Wolverine doesn't live because of his skills, but because the fans love him.
* Back in 2000, Creator/KurtBusiek and Stuart Immonen wrote a short graphic novel, ''Superstar'', about a hero who was powered by popularity. Kind of. The hero of the story gained superpowers as long as he had the energy to spare, but it was limited and did run out. His father ended up merchandising him to hell and back (even against his express wishes sometimes) with toy lines, live shows, televising his battles, etc. Part of the cost to watch the shows or buying the merch? A small energy donation, not even enough to make you wheeze from tiredness. Of course, being really popular and taking energy donations from millions of fans, he was actually rather powerful.
* The Marvel villain Arcade has to date, been 100% unsuccessful at killing any superheroes or villains that feature in his appearances. It's assumed that all of his success with Murderworld assassinations occur offscreen. Killing overweight and out of shape buisnessmen is one thing. But he is clearly out of his league with superpowered characters. But his offbeat characterization (not too unlike SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker) is probably why he gets to stay around for the occasional guest appearance, and trying to TakeALevelInBadass in the pages of the BattleRoyale inspired Avengers Academy arc.
* In the early days, SpiderMan was the hero at Marvel that benefited most from this. His early altercations with [[LetsYouAndHimFight other heroes]] would frequently see Spider-Man out maneuvering or outclassing all of them. This includes when he fought handicap fights against the ComicBook/FantasticFour and ComicBook/TheAvengers. He outright ''beat'' the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} all by himself during the SecretWars. In more recent years however, there has been a reverse of the trend; writers preferring to betray Spider-Man as a perpetual underdog.

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* TheIncredibleHulk has been this for years and years, but it became most apparent in WorldWarHulk where he easily defeats people he has no business defeating, like Comicbook/DoctorStrange.
** Doc Strange was {{justified|Trope}}, however poorly, mainly due to exploiting the fact that the characters are friends instead of a set of powers to be thrown against each other (Banner disabled Strange before the fight by tricking him and playing on his emotions). Aside from Strange, Hulk beating everyone else he beats in WorldWarHulk is completely reasonable.
** There seem to be two competing ideas about how the Hulk should be used; one sticks closer to his original conception as "the strongest one there is" with a few exceptions. The other sees him as a perfect candidate for TheWorfEffect and not much else.
* Franchise/{{Batman}} has become a walking DeusExMachina in comic books and "versus debates" thanks to the words [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]]. Given enough prep time, [[MemeticBadass he is speculated to be able to defeat]]: {{Superman}}, {{Galactus}}, {{Darkseid}}, [[ComicBook/TheSandman Death]], Taxes, Tofu, and Jelly Beans. The sheer amount of times he's faced Superman and lived would qualify him here even if nothing else would.
** The 'Batman smacks down Superman' issue was subverted in ''[[ComicBook/DCTheNewFrontier The New Frontier]]''; initially, it appears that Batman handed Superman his cape after Superman attempted to arrest Batman, who was refusing to [[SuperRegistrationAct register or resign as a superhero]]. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that the two men staged it as a protest against [=McCarthyism=] and the witch-hunts of the 1950s. At Superman's urging, no less.]]
** More concretely, he made contingency plans in one arc to take each member of the ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' down should they go crazy. Of course, they [[GoneHorriblyWrong fall into the wrong hands]], and work remarkably well on all the heroes.
** Even those plans are sometimes criticized by readers. The plan against Flash, for example, relies on him vibrating through a special bullet, instead of just, y'know, moving out of the way.
** In several stories, it's later expanded to note that every single one of the Justice League members have at least some vague plan to take out their team-members in case any one of them goes rogue. They vary in effectiveness, though. [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan's]] contingency plan shows one of his own moments of PopularityPower - his plan to defeat Batman was to create a jetpack, strap it to him, and shoot him as far away as possible to be sure. Despite certain obvious flaws, his plan ''worked''(even if it was entirely unnecessary for a guy that can casually exceed the speed of light and destroy planets without trying).
** The entire issue is parodied in [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/000745.html this]] ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'' strip.
** In one alternate universe, after Jason Todd was killed Batman went ...a ''little'' more nuts than normal...and ''killed every single villain on Earth'', resulting in a utopia. ''No one thought this was unlikely.''
** Fortunately AlanMoore seems to be immune to PopularityPower. During Moore's run on Comicbook/SwampThing Batman takes on the much more powerful title character with plenty of prep time after making careful preparations, including putting wood cutting buzz-saws on the Batmobile and bringing a herbicide thrower. Comicbook/SwampThing wipes the floor with him.
*** There are a few crossovers where Batman isn't shown as an all-around invincible badass. In one crossover between Spider-Man and Batman, they got into a brief scuffle and Peter grabbed Bats, tossed him half-way across the building. The priceless look on Bruce's face said it all as he was being thrown so easily.
** And sometimes, even [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]] is unnecessary. Like putting down Cheetah, who is a recurrent Wonder Woman villain, at times able to take a punch from Superman (who, for the uninitiated, has SuperStrength and SuperSpeed, which Batman lacks), with a single punch, running with three adults on his back, and sucking enough bullets to sink a frigate. And apparently, [[TripleShifter doesn't need to sleep]].
** One issue of Batman Confidential had him fighting several members of the proto-Justice League. He took down WonderWoman, TheFlash, Comicbook/GreenLantern, and Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}. This was their first meeting, and he didn't know what any of their abilities were when the fight started. It helped that neither did the writer. Let's see... throwing a smoke bomb in front of The Flash is yet another example of writers forgetting that 1. He has SuperReflexes and even so wouldn't immediately crash into a wall if blinded 2. If you're in a small room with The Flash, there is no time to throw something before he reaches you. There's not time for a human to do ''anything'' before he reaches you. Wonder Woman cannot be taken out by kicking her in the stomach with human strength. At a best case scenario it's ineffective. Worse case, you break your foot. The same goes for MartianManhunter. Batman's ability to manhandle Aquaman or utterly incapacitate Comicbook/GreenLantern with a batrope is also just slightly dubious.
** FrankMiller's Batman/Spawn crossover actually has their fight be even, ''to a degree.'' Batman beats down Spawn, but when Spawn turns the tables the rest of the fight is conviently '''off panel.'''
** Wonder Woman beat down Batman in one of her issues. A criminal Batman was after sought sanctuary in Wonder Woman's headquarters, and Batman demanded she turn her over. Wondy said no. With her foot. In fact, WonderWoman is a good case of RealityEnsues, as his track record against her has been slightly against him. She's a FlyingBrick with no obvious weaknesses who often sees through his ruses.
* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker has been such a popular villain in all of his incarnations (both in comic books and onscreen) over the past 70+ years that he [[TropeNamer named]] a [[JokerImmunity related trope]].
* Despite allegedly being [[BadassNormal just a hair above maximum human potential]], some of CaptainAmerica's feats have gone seemingly far beyond what he "should" be able to do. Any average human superhero or villain who goes up against him is sure to lose. Even superpowered denizens like {{Spider-Man}} and Wolverine fold before the Cap. And if that weren't enough, Captain America has actually gone rounds against Namor, Hulk, and the other super heavyweights of the MarvelUniverse and STILL come out on top (or at the very least, fought these beings to a draw). Why? Because he's popular. Because he wears the red, white, and blue. And to top it all off, Marvel loves him so much that they'll never have the guy lose, just like DC is never going to have Batman lose.
** This is made especially ridiculous in the animated movie, ''UltimateAvengers'', which has the team fight The Hulk in the finale and has Cap last better than any others who engage him in a direct fight. Notably, The Hulk takes down TheMightyThor (an ACTUAL GOD) in two blows. Cap gets thrown all over the place and manages to endure around/over FOUR. Sure, he's bleeding and disoriented afterwards, but logically he shouldn't even be conscious.
** Although there are a few well-known instances of Captain America subverting this trope. There are plenty of battles where he shows up, makes an inspirational speech about determination over power, then gets his ass handed to him (most famously against Korvac, Thanos, and the Masters of Evil).
** It should be noted that Cap's shield is often described as playing merry havoc with the laws of physics. For example, it's not just indestructible (it can shrug off a direct hit from everything short of Thor with the power of Odin), but it also arrests most (if not all) of the momentum directed at it, too. One imagines that works in reverse when used as a weapon. But still, all it should take is one shot from most people listed here and Cap is down for the count.
*** In a ComicBook/FantasticFour story, Cap's shield takes Gladiator ({{Superman}}'s CaptainErsatz) at bay for minutes. Heat vision ("The heart of a star") and lighting-fast, moon-blasting punches don't even ''ruin the painting'' of the shield. Maybe it's not even CaptainAmerica PopularityPower in action - the Star and Strips logo must be a reality breaker.
*** During the 90s, Cap had an encounter with a few of the X-Men in a scuffle which saw him getting frozen from the waist down by Iceman. The move did ''not'' stop Captain America on his tracks. He then somersaulted across the air and knocked Iceman out ''while his entire lower body was frozen'', meaning that he shouldn't even have the kind of momentum to pull off such a move. Not only that, he effortlessly beat the crap out of Beast. To make things clear, Hank [=McCoy=] is no Hulk or Thor, but he's still a highly dangerous mutant who possesses strength, speed, and agility far better than the best of Olympic athletes AND he can lift well over thirty tons. That didn't stop the Cap from making short work of him. [[FromBadToWorse It got worse]] in the X-Men vs Avengers storyline when Cap went up against Gambit. During the fight, Gambit used his kinetic powers to charge up Cap's suit and levelled him with an explosion that should have reduced any human or peak human fighter to a charred skeleton. Immediately after the explosion, Cap emerged from the blast with no injuries and proceeded to punch Gambit out like nothing happened to him.
** Cap himself puts it best in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2:
-->"I wear the flag. That means I don't lose."
** ComicBook/CivilWar at least is fair about about it. ComicBook/IronMan always wipes the floor with Cap in their various duels, causing him to need rescue by more powerful allies, unless Cap cheats by shorting out his armor in which case ComicBook/IronMan is basically helpless to do anything but lie there and eat shield, not really making Cap look all that powerful.
*** Civil War is also one of the times that Captain America defeated Spider-man. This time Spidey offers a meager justification for it: "There is no 'next move' to read, for him, it's all one long move from start to finish, he has it all planed out in advance while you're still trying to react to his last blow.", which of course ignores quite a number of things about Spidey and Marvel in general but there you have it.
** Deadpool has been shown as possibly being Cap's superior. In their first meeting, Deadpool takes out the (mind-controlled) Captain with [[http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/deadpool/9.jpg a solid hit to the junk]]. In a recent team-up, an enraged Deadpool got into a heated battle with Steve Rogers, now Super Soldier. In that battle, Deadpool managed to put a really good hurting on the former Captain America. Just when it seemed that Deadpool was finally overpowering Rogers, he was shot in the back with several tranquilizer darts to end the battle and even then Deadpool was the one still standing while Cap was the one on his knees who looked worse for wear. Considering how Captain America usually shows up other superheroes like Wolverine and Spider-Man in their own comic books, it's quite amazing that Deadpool managed to come off looking really strong against Captain America with the implication that he might have won their interrupted battle if he were to continue going all-out.
* Heroes aren't the only ones with PopularityPower. DrDoom has become a villainous equivalent of Batman who can defeat anyone (given enough "prep time" (admittedly a FAR more stable claim than Batman, but still quite ridiculous)). Despite being the villain of the story, the good doctor has gained [[DracoInLeatherPants an immense following of fans]] who believe he's capable of defeating anyone and anything, including the most powerful beings in the comic books multiverse. Given enough time to study opponents, it is said that Doom could defeat Thanos, Galactus, Magneto, Hulk, Thor, Darkseid, Superman, Batman, Silver Surfer, Jesus, and even the almighty Rubik's Cube. It really is an almost endless list.
** A really ridiculous example of Doom oozing [[GodModeSue God Mode Suedom]] was during an arc where he teamed up with Dr. Voodoo and battled their way across hordes of demons. Dr. Voodoo got taken down by Ghost Rider but before Ghost Rider could finish Voodoo, Doom came in and took Ghost Rider out with one punch. This is a highly dubious feat considering Ghost Rider has been shown to be able to fight toe to toe with Dr. Strange before, take some of his best attacks, and even defeat the Sorcerer Supreme after a brutal mystical fight. And of course, Doom's powers are only second best compared to Strange. Apparently, the message that the writers want to drive home is that one punch from Doom is greater than the sum of two Sorcerer Supremes put together.
* In the ''Suicide Kings'' {{Deadpool}} storyline, the Punisher beats Deadpool up to the point where he needs rescuing by Outlaw and [[spoiler: Daredevil]]. ''With a sword''. This is despite the Punisher being an ordinary human and Deadpool being a guy in peak physical fitness who heals all injuries, never gets tired and is almost definitely the best swordfighter in the Marvel Universe - plus, it's ''his book!'' In fact, any fight between someone with a HealingFactor and someone without is only going to end one way - that would be why they apparently put DP's factor on a major go-slow for this series.
** Punisher was on the receiving end in a Punisher/Batman crossover. Bats beat him in about two panels and described his fighting style as that of a bar brawler, which given Frank Castle's rather extensive training includes SEAL training and one particular writer went into detail on his martial arts techniques....But mostly, that crossover is also another case of Batman's own PopularityPower at work.
* That time Spidey took down Firelord, a former Herald of Galactus. We're talking Silver Surfer-level power. Granted, Firelord swore he would fight Spider-Man in [[CombatByChampion single combat]] (and not just, you know, OBLITERATE NEW YORK STATE WITH A THOUGHT). Spidey beat him after throwing him in the East River, tricking him into a building in the process of being demolished, and exploding a gas station on him, but come on. This guy flies through stars!
** To further explain how batshit insane this is: Heralds of Galactus are high order {{Reality Warper}}s capable of exceeding the speed of light several thousand times over and demolishing planets without trying.
** And in the storyline immediately ''after'' the Firelord/Spidey fight -- and we mean immediately after, as in the very same day -- Firelord got smacked by the full power of the Sanctuary II battlestation, which had just finished spanking ''the entire Skrull Armada''. Firelord was blasted all the way across the solar system and headfirst into a moon at relativistic velocities... and ''got up out of the smoking crater, staggered a short way, and only then collapsed unconscious''. So, Spidey's fist > Death Star level firepower and near-lightspeed collisions with celestial bodies.
** Said incident was even mocked by Spidey himself in ''MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'', assuming you play as him during the endgame.
-->"Did I mention I beat up Firelord once? No, seriously. Firelord."
* For {{Wolverine}}, take for example ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs_DC Marvel vs. DC/DC vs. Marvel]]'' comics, which was literally one big popularity contest. One issue had a scene in which Wolverine is able to make short work of Lobo, an alien being that gave Superman a run for his money and destroyed an entire planet, in less than four panels, simply because polls showed that his stats were higher that week. Moreover, both of them have regenerative healing, but Lobo is able to regenerate his entire body FromASingleCell if his entire body is destroyed. The best part? The final blow of the fight [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome took place off-panel]], because, apparently, ''even the writers'' couldn't figure out how Wolverine could possibly win.
** According to Stan Lee the "single panel" part is a CoconutSuperpowers moment...the polls were held close enough to the publication of the DC vs. Marvel volumes that most of the comics had to be drawn before the polls were finished. The result was drawing all the fights such that they could easily go either way until the very end.
*** And the artist had drawn an alternate ending depicting Lobo's victory (in fact, only the three final panels were different, where instead of Wolvie, it was Lobo raising his hand, picking the cigar from the counter and smoking it).
** A later issue of Lobo's own comic implied that he was ''paid'' to throw the fight regardless, which ''is'' in-character for him while also nicely avoiding an outright denial.
** The same series also had Wolverine's X-Men teammate Storm hand a smack-down to WonderWoman, which seemed more than a little unlikely to many objective observers; however, ''X-Men'' were selling better than Wonder Woman at the time.
*** Context on the above fight; Storm did not win by keeping the fight at range and spamming typhoons at Diana until she fell over, which would have at least made some kind of sense. Diana was able to make it to melee range and successfully connect with a kick to Storm's head, ''and Storm still stayed conscious''.
** In his "Brainwashed by Hydra" arc, Wolverine takes on the like of Namor, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, and StanLee knows [[WolverinePublicity how many others]], without getting beaten or captured once.
*** Somehow, Wolverine also managed to defeat Hercules with little difficulty. The same guy who's fought evenly with Heralds of Galactus and Thor.
*** A "[[{{Elseworld}} What If...?]]" of this storyline saw Wolverine practically ''wipe out the entire MarvelUniverse''. This was especially headachey because it had Magneto, who canonically pulled the metal from Wolvy's bones and left him for dead in the original, shanked. It did, however, have Kitty prove why phasing is awesome.
* Parodied by the Marvel character of SquirrelGirl, who manages to hand some of the most powerful, godlike villains in the MarvelUniverse a humiliating defeat despite having not particularly impressive superpowers.
** It's reached the point where other people are starting to recognize her tendency to beat nearly godlike beings, with {{Deadpool}} gaining extra recognition for being powerful enough to be defeated by Squirrel Girl.
*** Twice.
** This is helped along by those writers who dislike the idea of a joke character winning against people who outclass her. Those writers invent {{Ret Con}}s or HandWave the victory away... and the rest of the writers have her beat up someone bigger instead.
** As her squirrel companion Tippy-Toe once pointed out in a BreakingTheFourthWall address to fans who reacted more humorlessly to her tendency to defeat Dr. Doom:
--> "Yeah, that's right. Squirrel Girl totally pwns Doc Doom. Know why? '[[ArmedWithCanon Cause of somethin' that happened in a story by]] '''Steve-freakin'-Ditko'''! That's ''so'' in continuity. [[TakeThat So just deal with it, fanboy]]."
* A notable aversion came in one of the DC/Marvel crossovers, when the JLA went up against the X-Men. Batman, the most popularity-powered character of them all, sprang a surprise attack on Cyclops who, while he has plenty of fans, also attracts more hate than probably any other X-Man (with the possible exception of Gambit). Guess which one got taken down.
* In ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' this is one speculated source of the eponymous Fables' powers. The more popular the story about a Fable is, the more powerful they are. For example, Snow White recovered from a sniper's bullet to the skull--her sister Rose Red might not have survived since most people have forgotten her part of the fairytale-- Frau Totenkinder is one of the most powerful Fables in existence because she is every anonymous witch in folklore, and Goldilocks raises this to a level bordering on BlessedWithSuck when she discovers she can't heal any faster than the fish are eating her.
** Jack Horner, who is every Jack in fairy tales (except Jack Sprat), exploited this by going to Hollywood and making a trilogy of movies about him. He's now effectively immortal, but [[GoodThingYouCanHeal not invincible]].
** The series has actually avoided directly answering the question on whether PopularityPower is actually in effect. Frau Totenkinder for her part actually expresses doubt on whether it is or not.
* {{Deadpool}} once realized that this was the reason that he can never die, so [[DeathSeeker in order to die]] he decided to [[spoiler: go out and [[TakeThat kill]] [[NoFourthWall all of his fans]]]].
** Does the same in ''Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe''. He also gives an interesting speech to Wolverine about his healing factor. He states that it's incredibly fitting: the popular character has a power that makes him immune to death. Wolverine doesn't live because of his skills, but because the fans love him.
* Back in 2000, Creator/KurtBusiek and Stuart Immonen wrote a short graphic novel, ''Superstar'', about a hero who was powered by popularity. Kind of. The hero of the story gained superpowers as long as he had the energy to spare, but it was limited and did run out. His father ended up merchandising him to hell and back (even against his express wishes sometimes) with toy lines, live shows, televising his battles, etc. Part of the cost to watch the shows or buying the merch? A small energy donation, not even enough to make you wheeze from tiredness. Of course, being really popular and taking energy donations from millions of fans, he was actually rather powerful.
* The Marvel villain Arcade has to date, been 100% unsuccessful at killing any superheroes or villains that feature in his appearances. It's assumed that all of his success with Murderworld assassinations occur offscreen. Killing overweight and out of shape buisnessmen is one thing. But he is clearly out of his league with superpowered characters. But his offbeat characterization (not too unlike SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker) is probably why he gets to stay around for the occasional guest appearance, and trying to TakeALevelInBadass in the pages of the BattleRoyale inspired Avengers Academy arc.
* In the early days, SpiderMan was the hero at Marvel that benefited most from this. His early altercations with [[LetsYouAndHimFight other heroes]] would frequently see Spider-Man out maneuvering or outclassing all of them. This includes when he fought handicap fights against the ComicBook/FantasticFour and ComicBook/TheAvengers. He outright ''beat'' the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} all by himself during the SecretWars. In more recent years however, there has been a reverse of the trend; writers preferring to betray Spider-Man as a perpetual underdog.
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18th Jul '13 1:36:38 PM Chadius
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** Wonder Woman beat down Batman in one of her issues. A criminal Batman was after sought sanctuary in Wonder Woman's headquarters, and Batman demanded she turn her over. Wondy said no. With her foot.

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** Wonder Woman beat down Batman in one of her issues. A criminal Batman was after sought sanctuary in Wonder Woman's headquarters, and Batman demanded she turn her over. Wondy said no. With her foot. In fact, WonderWoman is a good case of RealityEnsues, as his track record against her has been slightly against him. She's a FlyingBrick with no obvious weaknesses who often sees through his ruses.
10th Jul '13 7:07:39 PM overman2099
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*** During the 90s, Cap had an encounter with a few of the X-Men in a scuffle which saw him getting frozen from the waist down by Iceman. The move did ''not'' stop Captain America on his tracks. He then somersaulted across the air and knocked Iceman out ''while his entire lower body was frozen'', meaning that he shouldn't even have the kind of momentum to pull off such a move. Not only that, he effortlessly beat the crap out of Beast. To make things clear, Hank [=McCoy=] is no Hulk or Thor, but he's still a highly dangerous mutant who possesses strength, speed, and agility far better than the best of Olympic athletes AND he can lift well over thirty tons. That didn't stop the Cap from making short work of him.

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*** During the 90s, Cap had an encounter with a few of the X-Men in a scuffle which saw him getting frozen from the waist down by Iceman. The move did ''not'' stop Captain America on his tracks. He then somersaulted across the air and knocked Iceman out ''while his entire lower body was frozen'', meaning that he shouldn't even have the kind of momentum to pull off such a move. Not only that, he effortlessly beat the crap out of Beast. To make things clear, Hank [=McCoy=] is no Hulk or Thor, but he's still a highly dangerous mutant who possesses strength, speed, and agility far better than the best of Olympic athletes AND he can lift well over thirty tons. That didn't stop the Cap from making short work of him. [[FromBadToWorse It got worse]] in the X-Men vs Avengers storyline when Cap went up against Gambit. During the fight, Gambit used his kinetic powers to charge up Cap's suit and levelled him with an explosion that should have reduced any human or peak human fighter to a charred skeleton. Immediately after the explosion, Cap emerged from the blast with no injuries and proceeded to punch Gambit out like nothing happened to him.


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** A really ridiculous example of Doom oozing [[GodModeSue God Mode Suedom]] was during an arc where he teamed up with Dr. Voodoo and battled their way across hordes of demons. Dr. Voodoo got taken down by Ghost Rider but before Ghost Rider could finish Voodoo, Doom came in and took Ghost Rider out with one punch. This is a highly dubious feat considering Ghost Rider has been shown to be able to fight toe to toe with Dr. Strange before, take some of his best attacks, and even defeat the Sorcerer Supreme after a brutal mystical fight. And of course, Doom's powers are only second best compared to Strange. Apparently, the message that the writers want to drive home is that one punch from Doom is greater than the sum of two Sorcerer Supremes put together.
3rd Jul '13 10:53:04 AM nombretomado
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** CivilWar at least is fair about about it. ComicBook/IronMan always wipes the floor with Cap in their various duels, causing him to need rescue by more powerful allies, unless Cap cheats by shorting out his armor in which case ComicBook/IronMan is basically helpless to do anything but lie there and eat shield, not really making Cap look all that powerful.

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** CivilWar ComicBook/CivilWar at least is fair about about it. ComicBook/IronMan always wipes the floor with Cap in their various duels, causing him to need rescue by more powerful allies, unless Cap cheats by shorting out his armor in which case ComicBook/IronMan is basically helpless to do anything but lie there and eat shield, not really making Cap look all that powerful.
30th Jun '13 7:09:24 PM TVRulezAgain
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* TheIncredibleHulk has been this for years and years, but it became most apparent in WorldWarHulk where he easily defeats people he has no business defeating, most notably Comicbook/DoctorStrange.

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* TheIncredibleHulk has been this for years and years, but it became most apparent in WorldWarHulk where he easily defeats people he has no business defeating, most notably like Comicbook/DoctorStrange.



* {{Batman}} has become a walking DeusExMachina in comic books and "versus debates" thanks to the words [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]]. Given enough prep time, [[MemeticBadass he is speculated to be able to defeat]]: {{Superman}}, {{Galactus}}, {{Darkseid}}, [[ComicBook/TheSandman Death]], Taxes, Tofu, and Jelly Beans. The sheer amount of times he's faced Superman and lived would qualify him here even if nothing else would.

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* {{Batman}} Franchise/{{Batman}} has become a walking DeusExMachina in comic books and "versus debates" thanks to the words [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]]. Given enough prep time, [[MemeticBadass he is speculated to be able to defeat]]: {{Superman}}, {{Galactus}}, {{Darkseid}}, [[ComicBook/TheSandman Death]], Taxes, Tofu, and Jelly Beans. The sheer amount of times he's faced Superman and lived would qualify him here even if nothing else would.
18th Jun '13 10:30:41 PM Rothul
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* The Marvel villain Arcade has to date, been 100% unsuccessful at killing any superheroes or villains that feature in his appearances. It's assumed that all of his success with Murderworld assassinations occur offscreen. Killing overweight and out of shape buisnessmen is one thing. But he is clearly out of his league with superpowered characters. But his offbeat characterization (not too unlike SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker) is probably why he gets to stay around for the occasional guest appearance.

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* The Marvel villain Arcade has to date, been 100% unsuccessful at killing any superheroes or villains that feature in his appearances. It's assumed that all of his success with Murderworld assassinations occur offscreen. Killing overweight and out of shape buisnessmen is one thing. But he is clearly out of his league with superpowered characters. But his offbeat characterization (not too unlike SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker) is probably why he gets to stay around for the occasional guest appearance.appearance, and trying to TakeALevelInBadass in the pages of the BattleRoyale inspired Avengers Academy arc.
12th May '13 8:04:59 PM CharlestonMan
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' this is one speculated source of the eponymous Fables' powers. The more popular the story about a Fable is, the more powerful they are. For example, Snow White recovered from a sniper's bullet to the skull--her sister Rose Red might not have survived since most people have forgotten her part of the fairytale-- Frau Totenkinder is one of the most powerful Fables in existence because she is every anonymous witch in folklore, and Goldilocks raises this to a level bordering on BlessedWithSuck [[spoiler:when she discovers she can't heal any faster than the fish are eating her.]]

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' this is one speculated source of the eponymous Fables' powers. The more popular the story about a Fable is, the more powerful they are. For example, Snow White recovered from a sniper's bullet to the skull--her sister Rose Red might not have survived since most people have forgotten her part of the fairytale-- Frau Totenkinder is one of the most powerful Fables in existence because she is every anonymous witch in folklore, and Goldilocks raises this to a level bordering on BlessedWithSuck [[spoiler:when when she discovers she can't heal any faster than the fish are eating her.]]
22nd Apr '13 9:07:37 PM urutapu
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** The 'Batman smacks down Superman' issue was subverted in ''[[JusticeLeagueNewFrontier The New Frontier]]''; initially, it appears that Batman handed Superman his cape after Superman attempted to arrest Batman, who was refusing to [[SuperRegistrationAct register or resign as a superhero]]. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that the two men staged it as a protest against [=McCarthyism=] and the witch-hunts of the 1950s. At Superman's urging, no less.]]

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** The 'Batman smacks down Superman' issue was subverted in ''[[JusticeLeagueNewFrontier ''[[ComicBook/DCTheNewFrontier The New Frontier]]''; initially, it appears that Batman handed Superman his cape after Superman attempted to arrest Batman, who was refusing to [[SuperRegistrationAct register or resign as a superhero]]. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that the two men staged it as a protest against [=McCarthyism=] and the witch-hunts of the 1950s. At Superman's urging, no less.]]
1st Apr '13 9:06:10 AM Geverick
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* {{Batman}} has become a walking DeusExMachina in comic books and "versus debates" thanks to the words [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]]. Given enough prep time, [[MemeticBadass he is speculated to be able to defeat]]: {{Superman}}, {{Galactus}}, {{Darkseid}}, [[ComicBook/TheSandman Death]], Taxes, Tofu, and Jelly Beans. The sheer amount of times he's handed Superman alone a smackdown would qualify him here even if nothing else would.

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* {{Batman}} has become a walking DeusExMachina in comic books and "versus debates" thanks to the words [[CrazyPrepared "with prep time"]]. Given enough prep time, [[MemeticBadass he is speculated to be able to defeat]]: {{Superman}}, {{Galactus}}, {{Darkseid}}, [[ComicBook/TheSandman Death]], Taxes, Tofu, and Jelly Beans. The sheer amount of times he's handed faced Superman alone a smackdown and lived would qualify him here even if nothing else would.
11th Mar '13 8:49:17 PM Eagal
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* [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in the case of [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Larfleeze a.k.a. Agent Orange]] who became a [[EnsembleDarkhorse favorite of fans]] and his [[GeoffJohns creator]] alike following his debut. Initially he was firmly established as an [[SuperpowerLottery incredibly powerful]] [[AxCrazy nutcase]], being able to hold his own against the Comicbook/GreenLantern Corps and the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Guardians of the Universe]] and displayed enough power to outright kill multiple members of the Guardians even before that. However, during BlackestNight Larfleeze rarely displays such power again, being forced to run away from the Black Lanterns and even being threatened by Sinestro and Atrocitus (even though said threats don't do much to pursuade him), who are rather powerful as far as [[GreenLanternRing power ring]] wielding individuals go, but they simply can't logically be as powerful as Larfleeze who is effectively a [[OneManArmy one man Lantern Corps]] by himself, let alone expect him to take as kindly to threats as he did. To be fair, Larfleeze's popularity is largely due to his [[CrazyAwesome amusing personality quirks]] rather then how powerful he is, and he has remained entertaining despite having his abilities downplayed.
* Back in 2000, Creator/KurtBusiek and Stuart Immonen wrote a short graphic novel, ''Superstar'', about a hero who was powered by popularity. Kind of. The hero of the story gained superpowers as long as he had the energy to spare, but it was limited and did run out. His father ended up merchandising him to hell and back (even against his express wishes sometimes) with toy lines, live shows, televising his battles, etc. Part of the cost to watch the shows or buying the merch? A small energy donation, not even enough to make you weeze from tiredness. Of course, being really popular and taking energy donations from millions of fans, he was actually rather powerful.

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* [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in the case of [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Larfleeze a.k.a. Agent Orange]] who became a [[EnsembleDarkhorse favorite of fans]] and his [[GeoffJohns creator]] alike following his debut. Initially he was firmly established as an [[SuperpowerLottery incredibly powerful]] [[AxCrazy nutcase]], being able to hold his own against the Comicbook/GreenLantern Corps and the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Guardians of the Universe]] and displayed enough power to outright kill multiple members of the Guardians even before that. However, during BlackestNight Larfleeze rarely displays such power again, being forced to run away from the Black Lanterns and even being threatened by Sinestro and Atrocitus (even though said threats don't do much to pursuade him), who are rather powerful as far as [[GreenLanternRing power ring]] wielding individuals go, but they simply can't logically be as powerful as Larfleeze who is effectively a [[OneManArmy one man Lantern Corps]] by himself, let alone expect him to take as kindly to threats as he did. To be fair, Larfleeze's popularity is largely due to his [[CrazyAwesome amusing personality quirks]] rather then how powerful he is, and he has remained entertaining despite having his abilities downplayed.
* Back in 2000, Creator/KurtBusiek and Stuart Immonen wrote a short graphic novel, ''Superstar'', about a hero who was powered by popularity. Kind of. The hero of the story gained superpowers as long as he had the energy to spare, but it was limited and did run out. His father ended up merchandising him to hell and back (even against his express wishes sometimes) with toy lines, live shows, televising his battles, etc. Part of the cost to watch the shows or buying the merch? A small energy donation, not even enough to make you weeze wheeze from tiredness. Of course, being really popular and taking energy donations from millions of fans, he was actually rather powerful.



* In the early days, SpiderMan was the hero at marvel that benefitted most from this. His early altercations with [[LetsYouAndHimFight other heroes]] would frequently see Spider-Man out maneuvering or outclassing all of them. This includes when he fought handicap fights against the ComicBook/FantasticFour and ComicBook/TheAvengers. He outright ''beat'' the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} all by himself during the SecretWars. In more recent years however, there has been a reverse of the trend; writers preferring to betray Spider-Man as a perpetual underdog.

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* In the early days, SpiderMan was the hero at marvel Marvel that benefitted benefited most from this. His early altercations with [[LetsYouAndHimFight other heroes]] would frequently see Spider-Man out maneuvering or outclassing all of them. This includes when he fought handicap fights against the ComicBook/FantasticFour and ComicBook/TheAvengers. He outright ''beat'' the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} all by himself during the SecretWars. In more recent years however, there has been a reverse of the trend; writers preferring to betray Spider-Man as a perpetual underdog.
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