History PlayingWith / RedemptionEqualsDeath

7th May '13 6:32:03 AM yisfidri
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???RedemptionEqualsAffliction
5th Feb '13 11:16:27 PM VPhantom
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* '''Justified''': The crimes were committed by TheCorruption or a SuperpoweredEvilSide, and the only way to stop himself is to KillUsBoth. Or he's a ProudWarriorRaceGuy who can't turn away from serving Evulz [[FateWorseThanDeath without losing his honor]].

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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The crimes were committed by TheCorruption or a SuperpoweredEvilSide, and the only way to stop himself is to KillUsBoth. Or he's a ProudWarriorRaceGuy who can't turn away from serving Evulz [[FateWorseThanDeath without losing his honor]].



* '''Enforced''': ExecutiveMeddling demands that Drake pays for his crimes and the easiest way to do it is by killing him off.

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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ExecutiveMeddling demands that Drake pays for his crimes and the easiest way to do it is by killing him off.
5th Feb '13 4:26:36 PM Johnny1993
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** After being redeemed, General Drake feels that he needs to answer for his crimes-giving up his life to stop the BigBad would seem fitting.


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** They want a TearJerker scene, so they combine HeelFaceTurn with AlasPoorVillain.
31st Jan '13 7:09:13 PM VPhantom
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* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Inverted''': RedemptionEqualsLife

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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RedemptionEqualsLife



* '''Deconstructed''': Drake's suicide charge was a SenselessSacrifice. Alternately, he may have died with honor and taken out Evulz, but the heroes are going to have their hands full cleaning up after Drake's mistakes and feel obligated to do so because of his sacrifice.
* '''Reconstructed''': But considering Drake was only ''slightly'' less of a monster than Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.



* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Conversed''': "Here comes Drake's [[StarWars Darth Vader]] moment."

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* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': "Here comes Drake's [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]] moment.""
* '''Deconstructed''': Drake's suicide charge was a SenselessSacrifice. Alternately, he may have died with honor and taken out Evulz, but the heroes are going to have their hands full cleaning up after Drake's mistakes and feel obligated to do so because of his sacrifice.
* '''Reconstructed''': But considering Drake was only ''slightly'' less of a monster than Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.



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%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
29th Oct '12 8:45:39 PM TVRulezAgain
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* '''Parodied''': Drake was a CompleteMonster, but accidentally killed himself and happened to stop Evulz's plan... and is hailed as a hero.

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* '''Parodied''': Drake was a CompleteMonster, but accidentally killed himself and happened to stop Evulz's plan... and is hailed as a hero.



* '''Reconstructed''': But considering Drake was only ''slightly'' less of a CompleteMonster than Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.

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* '''Reconstructed''': But considering Drake was only ''slightly'' less of a CompleteMonster monster than Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.
30th Jun '12 3:15:29 AM IchigoMontoya
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* '''Defied''': "Drake chooses to [[TheAtoner live with his crimes]].

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* '''Defied''': "Drake Drake chooses to [[TheAtoner live with his crimes]].
30th Jun '12 3:15:11 AM IchigoMontoya
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* '''Straight''': [[TheDragon Drake]] has done horrible things during his time serving [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]], but comes to regret his actions and chooses to sacrifice himself to help the heroes stop his master.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheDragon General Drake]] has done horrible things during his time serving [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]], but comes to regret his actions and chooses to sacrifice himself to help the heroes stop his master.



* '''Enforced''': ExecutiveMeddling demands that Drake pays for his crimes, and the easiest way to do it is by killing him off.

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* '''Enforced''': ExecutiveMeddling demands that Drake pays for his crimes, crimes and the easiest way to do it is by killing him off.



* '''Defied''': "I choose to [[TheAtoner live with my crimes]]. Dying is the coward's way out."
* '''Discussed''': "Let me guess, you plan to kill your master and die in the process."

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* '''Defied''': "I choose "Drake chooses to [[TheAtoner live with my his crimes]]. Dying is the coward's way out."
* '''Discussed''': "Let me guess, you plan to kill your master and die in the process."



* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Drake turns out to be one of the [[EnsembleDarkhorse most popular characters in the series]], and killing him off destroys any chance at developing his character further.

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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Drake turns out to be one of the [[EnsembleDarkhorse most popular characters in the series]], series]] and killing him off destroys any chance at developing his character further.
3rd Nov '11 6:52:45 PM soulreaver
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* '''Discussed''': "Let me guess, you plan to kill your boss and die."
* '''Conversed''': "And here comes Drake's [[StarWars Darth Vader]] moment...."
* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Drake turns out to be the [[EnsembleDarkhorse most popular character in the series]], and killing him off destroys any chance at developing the character further.

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* '''Discussed''': "Let me guess, you plan to kill your boss master and die.die in the process."
* '''Conversed''': "And here "Here comes Drake's [[StarWars Darth Vader]] moment....moment."
* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Drake turns out to be one of the [[EnsembleDarkhorse most popular character characters in the series]], and killing him off destroys any chance at developing the his character further.
23rd Oct '11 11:16:24 PM soulreaver
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* '''Reconstructed''': But considering Drakewas only ''slightly'' less of a CompleteMonster than Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.

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* '''Reconstructed''': But considering Drakewas Drake was only ''slightly'' less of a CompleteMonster than Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.
22nd Oct '11 5:53:47 PM soulreaver
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'''Basic Trope''': Someone who has made a terrible mistake that caused the heroes' problem in the first place, or someone who was in service to evil realizes their mistake and sacrifices their life to destroy it.
* '''Straight''': TheDragon has done horrible things under his time serving [[BigBad Emperor Evil]], but comes to regret his actions, and chooses to sacrifice himself to help the heroes stop his boss.
* '''Exaggerated''': TheDragon keeps seeking out the heroes [[DeathSeeker and trying to get himself killed]].
* '''Justified''': The crimes were committed by TheCorruption or the SuperpoweredEvilSide, and the only way to stop himself is to KillUsBoth. Or he's a Proud Warrior Race Guy who can't turn away from serving the BigBad [[FateWorseThanDeath without losing his honor]].

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'''Basic Trope''': Someone who has made a terrible mistake that caused the heroes' problem in the first place, place or someone who was in service to evil worked for the villains realizes their mistake and sacrifices their life to destroy it.redeem themselves.
* '''Straight''': TheDragon [[TheDragon Drake]] has done horrible things under during his time serving [[BigBad Emperor Evil]], Evulz]], but comes to regret his actions, actions and chooses to sacrifice himself to help the heroes stop his boss.
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* '''Exaggerated''': TheDragon Drake keeps seeking out the heroes [[DeathSeeker and trying to get himself killed]].
* '''Justified''': The crimes were committed by TheCorruption or the a SuperpoweredEvilSide, and the only way to stop himself is to KillUsBoth. Or he's a Proud Warrior Race Guy ProudWarriorRaceGuy who can't turn away from serving the BigBad Evulz [[FateWorseThanDeath without losing his honor]].



* '''Subverted''': TheDragon makes a suicidal charge at the BigBad, sustaining only a wound in the process.
* '''Double Subverted''': TheDragon dies from the wound after the heroes get him out of there.
* '''Parodied''': TheDragon was a CompleteMonster, but accidentally killed himself, and happened to stop the BigBad's plan... and is hailed as a hero.
* '''Deconstructed''': TheDragon's suicide charge was a SenselessSacrifice. Alternately, he may have died with honor, and taken out the BigBad, but the heroes are going to have their hands full cleaning up after the Dragon's mistakes and feel obligated to do so because of his sacrifice.
* '''Reconstructed''': But considering TheDragon was only ''slightly'' less of a CompleteMonster than the BigBad, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Many mooks have been killed immediately when they saw the light. But later, the QuirkyMinibossSquad switch side, and live. Then TheDragon sees the light, and dies.
* '''Averted''': TheDragon makes a simple HeelFaceTurn, joins the end battle, but survives it or simply does not turn at all.
* '''Enforced''': ExecutiveMeddling demands that TheDragon pay for his crimes, and the easiest way to do it is by killing him off.
* '''Lampshaded''': "TheDragon sacrificed himself to save us. It was all he could do to atone for the things he'd done."

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* '''Subverted''': TheDragon Drake makes a suicidal charge at the BigBad, Emperor Evulz, sustaining only a wound in the process.
* '''Double Subverted''': TheDragon He dies from the wound after the heroes get him out of there.
* '''Parodied''': TheDragon Drake was a CompleteMonster, but accidentally killed himself, himself and happened to stop the BigBad's Evulz's plan... and is hailed as a hero.
* '''Deconstructed''': TheDragon's Drake's suicide charge was a SenselessSacrifice. Alternately, he may have died with honor, honor and taken out the BigBad, Evulz, but the heroes are going to have their hands full cleaning up after the Dragon's Drake's mistakes and feel obligated to do so because of his sacrifice.
* '''Reconstructed''': But considering TheDragon was Drakewas only ''slightly'' less of a CompleteMonster than the BigBad, Evulz, it's probably for the best that he died. His victims would be waiting with TorchesAndPitchforks if he survived, anyway.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Many mooks have been killed immediately when they saw the light. But later, the QuirkyMinibossSquad switch side, switches sides and live. lives. Then TheDragon Drake sees the light, light and dies.
* '''Averted''': TheDragon Drake makes a simple HeelFaceTurn, HeelFaceTurn and joins the end battle, final battle alongside the heroes, but survives it or he simply does not turn at all.
* '''Enforced''': ExecutiveMeddling demands that TheDragon pay Drake pays for his crimes, and the easiest way to do it is by killing him off.
* '''Lampshaded''': "TheDragon "Drake sacrificed himself to save us. It was all he could do to atone for the things he'd done."



* '''Discussed''': "Let me guess, you plan to kill your boss and die. You think ''that'' makes up for the crap you've done?"
* '''Conversed''': "And here's The Dragon's Vader moment...."
* '''Played For Drama''': ??
* '''Played For Laughs''': ??
* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' TheDragon turns out to be the [[EnsembleDarkhorse coolest character in the series]], and killing him off destroys any chance at developing the character further.

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* '''Discussed''': "Let me guess, you plan to kill your boss and die. You think ''that'' makes up for the crap you've done?"\n* '''Conversed''': "And here's The Dragon's Vader moment...."
* '''Played For Drama''': ??
* '''Played For Laughs''': ??
'''Conversed''': "And here comes Drake's [[StarWars Darth Vader]] moment...."
* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' TheDragon Drake turns out to be the [[EnsembleDarkhorse coolest most popular character in the series]], and killing him off destroys any chance at developing the character further.
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