History PlayingWith / PragmaticVillainy

22nd May '18 11:41:30 AM iwantedtoaddsomething
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* '''Played straight''': The city of Cort surrenders to Emperor Evulz, and he orders that the inhabitants be spared. When asked why, he replies that it will give other communities the incentive to surrender.

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* '''Played straight''': '''Straight''': The city of Cort surrenders to Emperor Evulz, and he orders that the inhabitants be spared. When asked why, he replies that it will give other communities the incentive to surrender.
25th Mar '18 2:09:45 PM KingLyger
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'''Basic Trope''': A villain refuses to do something horrible, not out of kindness, but because it's a stupid thing to do.
* '''Straight''': The city of Cort surrenders to Emperor Evulz, and he orders that the inhabitants be spared. When asked why, he replies that it will give other communities the incentive to surrender.

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'''Basic Trope''': A villain refuses to do something horrible, horrible not out of kindness, but because it's a stupid thing to do.
it would hinder their plans.
* '''Straight''': '''Played straight''': The city of Cort surrenders to Emperor Evulz, and he orders that the inhabitants be spared. When asked why, he replies that it will give other communities the incentive to surrender.



** Evulz is StupidEvil.

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** Evulz is StupidEvil.StupidEvil, destroying the city of Cort after they've already surrendered just because it would be evil to do it.



** Evulz appears to being ready to spare the people of Cort, then slaughters them

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** Evulz appears to being be ready to spare the people of Cort, then slaughters them them.



** Only because Evulz knew they were [[ISurrenderSuckers feigning surrender]].

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** Only Evulz let Cort surrender only because Evulz knew they were [[ISurrenderSuckers feigning surrender]].



* '''Zig Zagged''': It's hard to tell whether or not Evulz is acting out of pragmatism or [[NobleDemon genuine goodness]], with plenty of evidence for both.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
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It's hard to tell whether or not Evulz is acting out of pragmatism or [[NobleDemon genuine goodness]], with plenty of evidence for both.



** Evulz is a StupidEvil CardCarryingVillain
* '''Enforced''': The fandom is infamous for tearing apart StupidEvil. The executives know their audience well affecting the plot accordingly.

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** Evulz is a StupidEvil CardCarryingVillain
CardCarryingVillain.
* '''Enforced''': The fandom is infamous for tearing apart StupidEvil. The executives know their audience well well, affecting the plot accordingly.



* '''Defied''': Evulz is a crazed, sadistic [[TheMadHatter lunatic]] who ''loves'' being a crazed, sadistic lunatic.

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* '''Defied''': Evulz is a crazed, sadistic [[TheMadHatter lunatic]] who ''loves'' being a crazed, sadistic lunatic. When told that he could be pragmatic in sparing them, he acknowledges that he could be; he's just choosing not to be.



* '''Deconstructed''': Evulz is such a SlaveToPR, the other villains mock him for it.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Evulz is such a SlaveToPR, and the other villains mock him for it.it.
** Evulz being so willing to spare people who aren't a threat to him makes him seen as a lesser threat than someone who will KillEmAll.
** Even after all of the pragmatic or even helpful things Evulz does, the people he conquers still hate his guts and treat him as a tyrannical evil overlord because he still did something pretty evil.



** But Evulz has shown that he's EvilerThanThou and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbally rips through]] the rest of them on how StupidEvil [[CardCarryingVillain Card Carrying Villainy]] is, proving that he's closer to his goals than anyone else.
** Alternatively, not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm from the KnightTemplar hordes is all the gloating he needs.

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** But Evulz has shown that he's EvilerThanThou and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbally rips through]] the rest of them on how StupidEvil [[CardCarryingVillain Card {{Card Carrying Villainy]] Villain}}y is, proving that he's closer to his goals than anyone else.
** Alternatively, not Not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm from the KnightTemplar hordes is all the gloating he needs.
20th Oct '17 2:42:37 PM ThomasSmith
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* '''Exaggerated''': Evulz ends up [[AntiVillain doing massive amounts of good accomplishing his goals]]. After all, his troops need good roads to travel efficiently and the trade funds them, good supply of medical care and giving it away [[VillainWithGoodPublicity gets him their loyalty and a demonstrates great deal of intelligence]]. [[WellIntentionedExtremist Only his questionable but]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo expedient actions]] make him qualify as a villain. Without those he'd be nearly saintly.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Evulz ends up [[AntiVillain doing massive amounts of good accomplishing his goals]]. After all, his troops need good roads to travel efficiently and the trade funds them, good supply of medical care and giving it away [[VillainWithGoodPublicity gets him their loyalty and a demonstrates a great deal of intelligence]]. [[WellIntentionedExtremist Only his questionable but]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo expedient actions]] make him qualify as a villain. Without those he'd be nearly saintly.
16th Jun '17 7:45:26 AM marcoasalazarm
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** Alternatively, not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm to the KnightTemplar hordes is all the gloating he needs.

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** Alternatively, not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm to from the KnightTemplar hordes is all the gloating he needs.
16th Jun '17 7:44:38 AM marcoasalazarm
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** Alternatively, not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm is all the gloating he needs.

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** Alternatively, not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm to the KnightTemplar hordes is all the gloating he needs.
25th May '17 12:44:52 PM marcoasalazarm
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* '''Reconstructed''': But Evulz has shown that he's EvilerThanThou and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbally rips through]] the rest of them on how StupidEvil [[CardCarryingVillain Card Carrying Villainy]] is, proving that he's closer to his goals than anyone else.

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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
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But Evulz has shown that he's EvilerThanThou and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbally rips through]] the rest of them on how StupidEvil [[CardCarryingVillain Card Carrying Villainy]] is, proving that he's closer to his goals than anyone else.else.
** Alternatively, not being StupidEvil means that he willingly follows the "unwritten rules" of the setting--rules that prevent anybody who considers himself "good" from applying ThisMeansWar and go full-on "[[KillThemAll Scorched Earth]]" on his organization. As such, every decision he's done follows a tenet of ultimate pragmatism: his assured continuous survival. And the fact that he continues to live on--maybe even becoming the SeriesMascot or an EnsembleDarkhorse--where every other villain buys the farm is all the gloating he needs.
16th May '17 9:00:41 PM doorhandle
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Added DiffLines:

** Evulz is highly intelligent, but he has a [[HairTriggerTemper bad temper]] that [[KickTheDog drives him to acts of]] StupidEvil. As such, how pragmatic his plans are depends on how frustrated and overly sadistic he's feeling today.
21st Dec '16 5:05:44 AM ectostar
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* '''Exaggerated''': Evulz ends up [[AntiVillain doing massive amounts of good accomplishing his goals.]] After all, his troops need good roads to travel efficiently and the trade funds them, good supply of medical care and giving it away [[VillainWithGoodPublicity gets him their loyalty and a demonstrates great deal of intelligence.]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Only his questionable but]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo expedient actions]] make him qualify as a villain. Without those he'd be nearly saintly.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Evulz ends up [[AntiVillain doing massive amounts of good accomplishing his goals.]] goals]]. After all, his troops need good roads to travel efficiently and the trade funds them, good supply of medical care and giving it away [[VillainWithGoodPublicity gets him their loyalty and a demonstrates great deal of intelligence.]] intelligence]]. [[WellIntentionedExtremist Only his questionable but]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo expedient actions]] make him qualify as a villain. Without those he'd be nearly saintly.
26th Jul '16 4:00:06 AM Morgenthaler
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** Only because Evulz [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy knew]] they were [[ISurrenderSuckers feigning surrender]].

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** Only because Evulz [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy knew]] knew they were [[ISurrenderSuckers feigning surrender]].



* '''Played For Drama''': Because how DangerouslyGenreSavvy Evulz is, and because he doesn't play the VillainBall, the heroes have a hard time facing him without ruining their own image as well.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Because of how DangerouslyGenreSavvy cunning Evulz is, and because he doesn't play the VillainBall, the heroes have a hard time facing him without ruining their own image as well.
7th Jun '16 6:14:18 PM thevideogameempire
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Evulz is essentially a humanitarian, but the heroes considered him a criminal mastermind by shouting "[[YouMonster That monster,]] how dare he feeds those starving orphans and building houses for the homeless!"

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Evulz is essentially a humanitarian, but the heroes considered him a criminal mastermind by shouting "[[YouMonster That monster,]] how dare he feeds feed those starving orphans and building build houses for the homeless!"
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