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* '''Inverted''': While Alice is orderly and Bob is chaotic, this doesn't hinder their partnership so much as ''enhance it.''
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** While Alice is orderly and Bob is chaotic, this doesn't hinder their partnership so much as ''enhance it.''''
** [[invoked]][[NeutralGood Three]] [[invoked]][[TrueNeutral Neutral]] [[invoked]][[NeutralEvil factions]] [[MeleeATrois are in conflict with each other]].
** While Alice is orderly and Bob is chaotic, this doesn't hinder their partnership so much as ''enhance it.
** [[invoked]][[NeutralGood Three]] [[invoked]][[TrueNeutral Neutral]] [[invoked]][[NeutralEvil factions]] [[MeleeATrois are in conflict with each other]].
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** It is a GoodVersusGood war between two [[{{Utopia}} utopian]] [[SugarBowl societies]], one which is orderly and the other is rule-free.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice or Bob start their conflict along Order vs Chaos lines, but in practice one of them is more moral than the other.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Alice or Bob start their conflict along Order vs Chaos lines, but in practice one of them is more moral than theother.other.
** Alice and Bob start out in conflict, but soon find their lawful and chaotic tendencies ''complement'' each other and they end up cooperating instead of fighting.
** Alice or Bob start their conflict along Order vs Chaos lines, but in practice one of them is more moral than the
** Alice and Bob start out in conflict, but soon find their lawful and chaotic tendencies ''complement'' each other and they end up cooperating instead of fighting.
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* '''Justified''': The morals of both sides are the exact opposite of the others, and the GoldenMeansFallacy doesn’t solve the problem.
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* '''Justified''': The morals of both sides are the exact opposite of the others, and the GoldenMeansFallacy GoldenMeanFallacy doesn’t solve the problem.
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* '''Justified''': ???
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* '''Justified''': ???The morals of both sides are the exact opposite of the others, and the GoldenMeansFallacy doesn’t solve the problem.
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* '''Inverted''': An inversion would be "Chaos vs Order". In other words, the same thing.
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* '''Inverted''': An inversion would be "Chaos vs Order". In other words, the same thing.While Alice is orderly and Bob is chaotic, this doesn't hinder their partnership so much as ''enhance it.''
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* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises order and has no qualms in sowing chaos.
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* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, Alice maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. laws. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, Bob who despises order and has no qualms in sowing chaos.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...but both characters claims that morality has nothing to do with order and chaos. Alice is concerned with order while Bob is concerned with freedom.
* '''Parodied''': Alice is a LawfulStupid protagonist who clashes against Bob, a ChaoticStupid antagonist.
* '''Parodied''': Alice is a LawfulStupid protagonist who clashes against Bob, a ChaoticStupid antagonist.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...but both characters claims that morality has nothing to do with order and chaos. Alice is concerned with order law while Bob is concerned with freedom.
* '''Parodied''': Alice isa LawfulStupid protagonist who and clashes against Bob, a ChaoticStupid antagonist.Bob who is ChaoticStupid.
* '''Parodied''': Alice is
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That\'s not an inversion. An inversion would be \"Chaos vs Order\" the same thing.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob is the good one, struggling for equality in an oppressive totalitarian regime; Alice is the evil sadistic inquisitor.
* '''Subverted''': It seems that either Alice or Bob have proven to have a moral code or a black heart.
* '''Subverted''': It seems that either Alice or Bob have proven to have a moral code or a black heart.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob is An inversion would be "Chaos vs Order". In other words, the good one, struggling for equality in an oppressive totalitarian regime; Alice is the evil sadistic inquisitor.
same thing.
* '''Subverted''':It seems that either Alice or Bob have proven to have a start their conflict along Order vs Chaos lines, but in practice one of them is more moral code or a black heart.than the other.
* '''Subverted''':
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* '''Discussed''': ???
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* '''Discussed''': ???"I doubt this is a fight between good and evil. They have a point; our world is flawed. It's really just a battle between order and freedom, two things we all want, and we have to accept that.
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* '''Inverted''': ???
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* '''Inverted''': ???Bob is the good one, struggling for equality in an oppressive totalitarian regime; Alice is the evil sadistic inquisitor.
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What do \"upstanding or despicable\" have to do with this? Which is which?
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Either Alice or Bob have proven themselves to be upstanding or despicable characters from time to time.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Either Alice or Bob have proven themselves to be upstanding chaotic or despicable orderly characters from time to time.
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Exploited''': ???Emperor Evulz plays up the differences between Alice, general of his regimented LegionOfDoom, and Bob, his flamboyant and individualistic master assassin, using this trope, ensuring they will never unite and overthrow him.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks [[AllCrimesAreEqual breaking a single law]] ([[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking even jaywalking]]) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cause mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks [[AllCrimesAreEqual breaking a single law]] ([[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking even jaywalking]]) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cause mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
** Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks [[AllCrimesAreEqual breaking a single law]] ([[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking even jaywalking]]) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cause mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
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**It is an EvilVersusEvil war between a [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou totalitarian dictatorship]] and a WretchedHive.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks breaking a single law (even jaywalking) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cause mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks [[AllCrimesAreEqual breaking a single law (even jaywalking) law]] ([[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking even jaywalking]]) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cause mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks breaking a single law (even jaywalking) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cuase mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law because she thinks breaking a single law (even jaywalking) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly criminal whose sole purpose is to cuase cause mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the town red.
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'''Basic Trope''': There is two sides. One is orderly whilst the other is chaotic.
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'''Basic Trope''': There is are two sides. One is orderly whilst the other is chaotic.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...but both characters claims that morality has nothing to do with law and chaos. Alice is concerned with order while Bob is concerned with freedom.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...but both characters claims that morality has nothing to do with law order and chaos. Alice is concerned with order while Bob is concerned with freedom.
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orderly=/=law abiding
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'''Basic Trope''': Lawful and chaotic characters clash. BlackAndWhiteMorality is not involved.
* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises authority and has no qualms in breaking the law.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law while Bob is an unruly rebel whose sole purpose is to disobey every single law there is on the land.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is orderly and law-abiding while Bob is freedom-loving and doesn't seem to agree with the laws. While they may not outright hate each other, due to their lifestyles, they don't necessarily like each other.
* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises authority and has no qualms in breaking the law.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law while Bob is an unruly rebel whose sole purpose is to disobey every single law there is on the land.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is orderly and law-abiding while Bob is freedom-loving and doesn't seem to agree with the laws. While they may not outright hate each other, due to their lifestyles, they don't necessarily like each other.
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'''Basic Trope''': Lawful and chaotic characters clash. BlackAndWhiteMorality There is not involved.
two sides. One is orderly whilst the other is chaotic.
* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despisesauthority order and has no qualms in breaking the law.
sowing chaos.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the lawwhile Bob because she thinks breaking a single law (even jaywalking) would cause disruption in society. Bob, on the other hand, is an unruly rebel criminal whose sole purpose is to disobey every single law there is on cuase mayhem whether it would be by breaking down buildings or by painting the land.
town red.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is orderlyand law-abiding while Bob is freedom-loving and doesn't seem to agree with the laws.freedom-loving. While they may not outright hate each other, due to their lifestyles, they don't necessarily like each other.
* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is orderly
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* '''Averted''': Lawful and chaotic characters are not in conflict.
* '''Enforced''': "Good vs Evil is getting boring, let's create a new conflict in law versus order."
* '''Lampshaded''': "In this world, you either abide by the rules and regulations or go against the customs of society."
* '''Enforced''': "Good vs Evil is getting boring, let's create a new conflict in law versus order."
* '''Lampshaded''': "In this world, you either abide by the rules and regulations or go against the customs of society."
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* '''Averted''': Lawful Orderly and chaotic characters are not in conflict.
* '''Enforced''': "Good vs Evil is getting boring, let's create a new conflict inlaw chaos versus order."
*'''Lampshaded''': "In this world, you either abide by the rules '''Lampshaded''':"I love it when everything in my room is in its place." "I love messing up my room and regulations or go against the customs of society."placing my stuff around randomly." "...We're not gonna get along well, are we?" "Probably not"
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* '''Parodied''': ???Alice is a LawfulStupid protagonist who clashes against Bob, a ChaoticStupid antagonist.
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* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises authority and won't hesitate to break the law.
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* '''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises authority and won't hesitate to break has no qualms in breaking the law.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Alice is orderly and law-abiding while Bob is freedom-loving and doesn't seem to agree with the laws. While they may not outright hate each other, due to their lifestyles, they don't necessarily like each other.
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* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
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* '''Subverted''': ???
It seems that either Alice or Bob have proven to have a moral code or a black heart.
* '''DoubleSubverted''': ???Subverted''': ...but both characters claims that morality has nothing to do with law and chaos. Alice is concerned with order while Bob is concerned with freedom.
* '''Double
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* '''Lampshaded''': "In this world, you either abide by the rules and regulations or go against the customs of society."
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'''Basic Trope''': Lawful and chaotic characters clash. BlackAndWhiteMorality is not involved.
*'''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises authority and won't hesitate to break the law.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law while Bob is an unruly rebel whose sole purpose is to disobey every single law there is on the land.
*'''Downplayed''': ???
*'''Justified''': ???
*'''Inverted''': ???
*'''Subverted''': ???
*'''Double Subverted''': ???
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': Either Alice or Bob have proven themselves to be upstanding or despicable characters from time to time.
*'''Averted''': Lawful and chaotic characters are not in conflict.
*'''Enforced''': Good vs Evil is getting boring, let's create a new conflict in
*'''Lampshaded''': "In this world, you either abide by the rules and regulations or go against the customs of society.
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*'''Discussed''': ???
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*'''Straight''': Alice, the protagonist, maintains order and enforces laws for citizens. She clashes with Bob, the antagonist, who despises authority and won't hesitate to break the law.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice is a ruthless KnightTemplar who punishes citizens who shows the slightest act of disrespect towards the law while Bob is an unruly rebel whose sole purpose is to disobey every single law there is on the land.
*'''Downplayed''': ???
*'''Justified''': ???
*'''Inverted''': ???
*'''Subverted''': ???
*'''Double Subverted''': ???
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': Either Alice or Bob have proven themselves to be upstanding or despicable characters from time to time.
*'''Averted''': Lawful and chaotic characters are not in conflict.
*'''Enforced''': Good vs Evil is getting boring, let's create a new conflict in
*'''Lampshaded''': "In this world, you either abide by the rules and regulations or go against the customs of society.
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*'''Defied''': ???
*'''Discussed''': ???
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