History PlayingWith / MachiavelliWasWrong

5th Apr '14 11:23:13 AM Gitaxias
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* '''Downplayed''': Emperor Evulz sometimes yells at his subjects. However, he has stopped doing this because he realized that his subjects don't obey him when he's mean to them.

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* '''Downplayed''': Emperor Evulz sometimes yells at his subjects. However, he has stopped doing this because he realized that his subjects don't obey him is slightly surprised when he's mean to them.Charlie defects, but not very.
25th Mar '13 7:15:11 AM shadowcreator
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* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???Bob convinces Charlie to join his side because Evulz was so mean to Charlie.
25th Mar '13 7:12:46 AM shadowcreator
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* '''Downplayed''': [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]] sometimes yells at his subjects. However, he has stopped doing this because he realized that his subjects don't obey him when he's mean to them.

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* '''Downplayed''': [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]] Evulz sometimes yells at his subjects. However, he has stopped doing this because he realized that his subjects don't obey him when he's mean to them.
25th Mar '13 7:12:12 AM shadowcreator
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???[[BigBad Emperor Evulz]] sometimes yells at his subjects. However, he has stopped doing this because he realized that his subjects don't obey him when he's mean to them.
25th Feb '13 9:33:28 PM IchigoMontoya
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* '''Zig Zagged''': At first, Evulz appears to be a loving ruler, but it soon turns out that he actually rules through fear. It's then revealed that [[WellIntentionedExtremist he's doing this for the good of the people]. It's later found out that many people have figured it out and love him anyway.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': At first, Evulz appears to be a loving ruler, but it soon turns out that he actually rules through fear. It's then revealed that [[WellIntentionedExtremist he's doing this for the good of the people].people]]. It's later found out that many people have figured it out and love him anyway.
25th Feb '13 9:32:57 PM IchigoMontoya
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* '''Subverted''': Bobs' forces look like they'll win the war when they're overwhelmed at the last moment by Evulz's reinforcements.

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* '''Subverted''': Bobs' Bob's forces look like they'll win the war when they're overwhelmed at the last moment by Evulz's reinforcements.



* '''Zig Zagged''': At first Evulz appears to be a loving ruler, but it soon turns out that he actually rules through fear. It's then revealed that [[WellIntentionedExtremist he's doing this for the good of the people]. It' later found out that many people have figured it out and love him anyway.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': At first first, Evulz appears to be a loving ruler, but it soon turns out that he actually rules through fear. It's then revealed that [[WellIntentionedExtremist he's doing this for the good of the people]. It' It's later found out that many people have figured it out and love him anyway.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Don't you know you can't rule through fear?"
* '''Invoked''': Evulz says, "It comes with the job, sorry. You have to fear ''someone'' up here".

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Don't you know that you can't rule through fear?"
fear? It ''never'' works out in the end."
* '''Invoked''': Evulz says, "It comes with the job, sorry. You have to fear ''someone'' up here".???



* '''Discussed''': >??

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* '''Discussed''': >?????
25th Feb '13 9:31:23 PM IchigoMontoya
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* '''Straight''': Alice rules with an iron fist. She is surprised when Charlie Heel Face Turns to Bobs' side.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice throws Charlie in jail for leaving a speck of dirt on his weapon, he escapes and joins Bob, who was waiting outside.
** Alice takes away Charlie's video games for not cleaning the stables. [[DisproportionateRetribution He topples her regime]].

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* '''Straight''': Alice [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]] rules with an iron fist. She is He's surprised when Charlie Heel {{Heel Face Turns Turn}}s to Bobs' Bob's side.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice
'''Exaggerated''': Evulz throws Charlie in jail for leaving a speck of dirt on his weapon, he weapons; Charlie escapes and joins Bob, who was waiting outside.
** Alice takes away Charlie's video games for not cleaning the stables. [[DisproportionateRetribution He topples her regime]].
outside.



** Charlie realizes that even if he manages to survive in Alice's care, he'd still rather be happy with Bob.
** Charlie dislikes or even hates being controlled this way.
* '''Inverted''': Alice is actually the better ruler, and her people are happier.
* '''Subverted''': Bobs' forces look like they'll win the war, when they are overwhelmed at the last moment by Alice's reinforcements.

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** Charlie realizes that even if he manages to survive in Alice's care, under Evulz's rule, he'd still rather be happy with Bob.
on Bob's side.
** Charlie dislikes or even hates being controlled this way.
* '''Inverted''': Alice Evulz is actually the better ruler, ruler and her his people are happier.
* '''Subverted''': Bobs' forces look like they'll win the war, war when they are they're overwhelmed at the last moment by Alice's Evulz's reinforcements.



** Bob has a new weapon, which blows the enemies to pieces. (Particularly valid if the weapon runs on ThePowerOfLove.)
** Fearing Alice's reputation and not wishing to be captured, Bob's forces fight even harder at the sight of Alice's reinforcements and manage to win the day.

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** Bob has a new weapon, superweapon which blows the enemies to pieces. (Particularly valid if the weapon runs on ThePowerOfLove.)
pieces.
** Fearing Alice's reputation Evulz's oppression and not wishing to be captured, Bob's forces fight even harder at the sight of Alice's Evulz's reinforcements and manage to win the day.



** Alice yells at Charlie. As he leaves the throne room he is stopped by a Bob recruiter, who promises they won't threaten his friends and family like Alice. And they'll give him cookies.
** Alice's method of instilling terror into her underlings' hearts consist on [[PokeThePoodle wearing a spooky mask and jumping out behind them]]. Most of them don't last a week under command, and she always wonders why they leave so soon.
* '''Zig Zagged''': At first Alice appears to be a loving ruler, but it soon turns out that she actually rules through fear. It is then found out she is doing this for the good of the people. It is later found out that many people have figured it out, and love her anyway.

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** Alice Evulz yells at Charlie. As he leaves the throne room he is room, he's stopped by a Bob recruiter, rebel recruiter who promises they that Bob won't threaten his friends and family like Alice. And they'll he'll give him cookies.
** Alice's Evulz's method of instilling terror into her his underlings' hearts consist on of [[PokeThePoodle wearing a spooky mask and jumping out behind them]]. Most of them don't last a week under command, command and she he always wonders why they leave so soon.
* '''Zig Zagged''': At first Alice Evulz appears to be a loving ruler, but it soon turns out that she he actually rules through fear. It is It's then found out she is revealed that [[WellIntentionedExtremist he's doing this for the good of the people. It is people]. It' later found out that many people have figured it out, out and love her him anyway.



** It is unknown what kind of leaders Alice and Bob are, as neither one of them is shown actually leading.
** Alice and Bob are leaders of groups where the people have no choice but to follow them.
** Both Alice and Bob are tyrants or well-loved, and neither is better or worse in terms of kindness.
* '''Enforced''': "If we have Alice be nice no one will want to see her lose, as we have to make her more evil".
* '''Lampshaded''': "Don't you know you can't win? We have the power of friendship on our side!"
* '''Invoked''': Alice says, "It comes with the job, sorry. You have to fear ''someone'' up here".

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** It is It's unknown as to what kind of leaders Alice Evulz and Bob are, as neither one of them is shown actually leading.
** Alice Evulz and Bob are leaders of groups where the people have no choice but to follow them.
** Both Alice Evulz and Bob are tyrants or well-loved, and neither is better or worse in terms of kindness.
fairness.
* '''Enforced''': "If we have Alice be nice no one will want to see her lose, as we have to make her more evil".
???
* '''Lampshaded''': "Don't you know you can't win? We have the power of friendship on our side!"
rule through fear?"
* '''Invoked''': Alice Evulz says, "It comes with the job, sorry. You have to fear ''someone'' up here".



* '''Defied''': Alice knows what would happen if she causes her people to fear her, so she makes sure to treat them kindly.
* '''Discussed''': "If this was a novel Alice would lose just because she's cruel. But we're going to have to fight hard to defeat her".
* '''Conversed''': "Well, Alice might have the upper hand now, but did you see what she did to poor Charlie? She'll lose in the end".
* '''Deconstructed''': Rule by fear doesn't work because people are too afraid to do ''anything'' - including their jobs. Everything that needs to be done [[FascistButInefficient ends up done half-assedly or not at all]], technological progress stagnates, and art... [[PropagandaMachine let's not even]] [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible mention that]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But then Alice breaks them, saying that SomeAnvilsNeedtoBeDropped.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice gives out cool and unusual punishments to her people, and is defeated by one of those punishments.
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice loses the war, and realizes she had become evil along the way.

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* '''Defied''': Alice Evulz knows what would happen if she he causes her his people to fear her, him, so she makes sure to treat them kindly.
fairly.
* '''Discussed''': "If this was a novel Alice would lose just because she's cruel. But we're going to have to fight hard to defeat her".
>??
* '''Conversed''': "Well, Alice Evulz might have the upper hand now, but did you see what she he did to poor Charlie? She'll He'll lose in the end".
* '''Deconstructed''': Rule by fear doesn't work because people are too afraid to do ''anything'' - including their jobs. Everything that needs to be done [[FascistButInefficient ends up done half-assedly or not at all]], technological progress stagnates, and art... [[PropagandaMachine let's not even]] [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible mention that]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But then Alice breaks them, saying that SomeAnvilsNeedtoBeDropped.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice Evulz gives out cool and unusual punishments {{Cool And Unusual Punishment}}s to her people, people and is defeated by [[HoistByHisOwnPetard one of those punishments.
them leads to his downfall]].
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice Evulz loses the war, war and realizes she had become evil along the way.[[HeelRealization realizes]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters how far he fell due to his ruthlessness]].
24th Dec '12 2:05:57 PM VPhantom
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%%* '''Deconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Reconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???

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%%* '''Deconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Reconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''':
???
24th Dec '12 2:05:38 PM VPhantom
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice throws Charlie in jail for leaving a speck of dirt on his weapon, he escapes and joins Bob, who was waiting outside.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
**
Alice throws Charlie in jail for leaving a speck of dirt on his weapon, he escapes and joins Bob, who was waiting outside.



* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''': Rule by fear dosen't work because people are too afraid to do ''anything'' - including their jobs. Everything that needs to be done [[FascistButInefficient ends up done half-assedly or not at all]], technological progress stagnates, and art... [[PropagandaMachine let's not even]] [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible mention that]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But then Alice breaks them, saying that SomeAnvilsNeedtoBeDropped.



* '''Enforced''': "If we have Alice be nice no one will want to see her lose, as we have to make her more evil."

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* '''Enforced''': "If we have Alice be nice no one will want to see her lose, as we have to make her more evil."evil".



* '''Invoked''': Alice says, "It comes with the job, sorry. You have to fear ''someone'' up here."

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* '''Invoked''': Alice says, "It comes with the job, sorry. You have to fear ''someone'' up here." here".
* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Discussed''': "If this was a novel Alice would lose just because she's cruel. But we're going to have to fight hard to defeat her."
* '''Conversed''': "Well, Alice might have the upper hand now, but did you see what she did to poor Charlie? She'll lose in the end."

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* '''Discussed''': "If this was a novel Alice would lose just because she's cruel. But we're going to have to fight hard to defeat her."
her".
* '''Conversed''': "Well, Alice might have the upper hand now, but did you see what she did to poor Charlie? She'll lose in the end."end".
* '''Deconstructed''': Rule by fear doesn't work because people are too afraid to do ''anything'' - including their jobs. Everything that needs to be done [[FascistButInefficient ends up done half-assedly or not at all]], technological progress stagnates, and art... [[PropagandaMachine let's not even]] [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible mention that]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But then Alice breaks them, saying that SomeAnvilsNeedtoBeDropped.



* '''Played For Drama''': Alice loses the war, and realises she had become evil along the way.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Alice loses the war, and realises realizes she had become evil along the way.



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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
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22nd Dec '12 12:09:30 AM naikiktulu
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* '''Deconstructed''': Rule by fear dosen't work because people are too afraid to do ''anything'' - including their jobs. Everything that needs to be done [[FascistButInefficient ends up done half-assedly or not at all]], technological progress stagnates, and art... [[PropagandaMachine let's not even]] [[SoBadItsHorrible mention that]].

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* '''Deconstructed''': Rule by fear dosen't work because people are too afraid to do ''anything'' - including their jobs. Everything that needs to be done [[FascistButInefficient ends up done half-assedly or not at all]], technological progress stagnates, and art... [[PropagandaMachine let's not even]] [[SoBadItsHorrible [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible mention that]].
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