History PlayingWith / ExcaliburInTheRust

3rd Aug '14 6:42:51 AM VPhantom
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* '''Subverted''': Hiro finds an old, rusty sword and [[GenreSavvy thinks it might be useful]]... But when he tests it out, it breaks.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Hiro finds an old, rusty sword and [[GenreSavvy thinks it might be useful]]... But when he tests it out, it breaks.



* '''Invoked''': The sword is an EmpathicWeapon that disguises itself as a rusted piece of junk to attract a suitably HumbleHero to wield it.

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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
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The sword is an EmpathicWeapon that disguises itself as a rusted piece of junk to attract a suitably HumbleHero to wield it.



* '''Played For Laughs''': Part of the reason the Dragonsbane is so effective is because every dragon that sees it bursts into uncontrollable laughter and can't concentrate on the battle.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Laughs''':
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Part of the reason the Dragonsbane is so effective is because every dragon that sees it bursts into uncontrollable laughter and can't concentrate on the battle.
3rd Aug '14 12:06:52 AM DanielLC
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** Hiro is given an old, rusty sword that he is told is the great Dragonsbane, and though it may not look it, it's still as powerful as ever. After defeating the dragon with it, he's told that it was really just an old, rusty sword, and the [[MagicFeather power was in him all along.]]
** Hiro searches for Dragonsbane, a very old sword. It turns out that it was crafted in the bronze age. It has a little greenish oxidation on it, but it's still clearly in good condition.


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** It turns out that the old, rusty sword the mentor gave Hiro really was a magic sword.


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** The magic of Dragonsbane keeps it from rusting. When Hiro finds it, it still looks fresh from the forge.


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** The sword was designed to look old and rusty to fool opponents into a false sense of security.


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** Hiro fights a dragon with the rusty old Dragonsbane. He barely manages to cut the dragon with it before it breaks, and he flees the battle. Months later, the Dragon dies of tetanus from being cut with a rusty old sword.
9th Mar '13 3:52:00 AM johnnye
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* '''Justified''': The Dragonsbane was lost years ago, damaged by the same tragedy that befell its original wielder, and left to rust.
* '''Inverted''': The Golden Blade of Hope is an incredibly ornate scimitar surrounded by [[FlamingSword yellow-white flames]]... But it's purely ceremonial, and totally impractical in a fight.

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* '''Justified''': The Dragonsbane was lost years ago, damaged by the same tragedy that befell its original wielder, and left to rust.
rust. However, the magical charms that gave it its power are as strong as ever.
* '''Inverted''': The Golden Blade of Hope is an incredibly ornate scimitar surrounded by [[FlamingSword yellow-white flames]]... But it's purely ceremonial, and totally impractical in a fight. Who thought it was a good idea to [[ElementalCrafting make a sword out of gold, anyway?]]



* '''Parodied''': Hiro throws away the InfinityMinusOneSword for a rusty piece of junk, acting like it's the InfinityPlusOneSword even though it obviously isn't.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Hiro finds the rusty sword in the first episode, and is convinced that it's the weapon destined to defeat the BigBad. He lugs it around for ages trying to find someone worthy of restoring it, while some characters call him crazy and point out other, more powerful-looking weapons, and others quietly suggest that it might simply be a MagicFeather. Even after it's [[WreckedWeapon broken in a fight]], he keeps DreamingOfThingsToCome and pressing on with his personal quest. Eventually it's restored and discovered to be an EmpathicWeapon, and his unswerving faith in it makes it all the more powerful.

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* '''Parodied''': Hiro throws away the InfinityMinusOneSword for a rusty piece of junk, acting like it's the InfinityPlusOneSword even though [[MockGuffin it obviously isn't.
isn't]].
* '''Zig Zagged''': Hiro finds the rusty sword in the first episode, and is convinced that it's the weapon destined to defeat the BigBad. He lugs it around for ages trying to find someone worthy of restoring it, while some characters call him crazy and point out other, more powerful-looking weapons, and others quietly suggest that it might simply be a MagicFeather. Even after it's [[WreckedWeapon broken in a fight]], he keeps DreamingOfThingsToCome and pressing on with his personal quest. Eventually it's restored and discovered to be an EmpathicWeapon, EmpathicWeapon that was [[SecretTestOfCharacter secretly testing his faith]], and his unswerving faith in it makes it all the more powerful.on finding him worthy bestows its full power.



* '''Enforced''': The writers are going for AnAesop that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

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* '''Enforced''': The writers are going for AnAesop that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.cover, or that [[DentedIron age doesn't mean obsolescence]].



* '''Exploited''': An "{{Honest John|sDealership}}" manufacturer of cheap swords covers them with fake rust so he can pitch them as being long-neglected {{Ancestral Weapon}}s going for a song.

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* '''Exploited''': An "{{Honest John|sDealership}}" manufacturer of cheap swords covers keeps them with fake rust in salt water for a month so he can pitch them as being long-neglected {{Ancestral Weapon}}s going for a song.



* '''Conversed''': "He has to pick the legendary Dragonsbane out of the FlamingSword hanging in mid-air, the shining silver one on a plaque on the wall, or the rusty one sitting in the fireplace? Gee, I wonder..."

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* '''Conversed''': "He has to pick the legendary Dragonsbane out of the FlamingSword hanging in mid-air, the [[BlingOfWar shining silver one one]] on a plaque on the wall, or the rusty one sitting in the fireplace? Gee, I wonder..."
28th Feb '13 4:56:59 PM VPhantom
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* '''Lampshaded''': "You'd think magic swords would come with [[RagnarokProofing anti-rust charms]] as standard..."

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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
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"You'd think magic swords would come with [[RagnarokProofing anti-rust charms]] as standard..."
28th Feb '13 4:34:18 PM Scrounge
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** "Great, we're all set to slay anything that hasn't had its tetanus shots."
14th Jan '13 6:54:14 AM johnnye
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* '''Straight''': [[TheHero Hiro]] finds a rusty, chipped sword that's clearly seen better days. This sword turns out to be the [[CoolSword Dragonsbane]], which is still extremely effective against dragons.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheHero Hiro]] finds a rusty, chipped sword that's clearly seen better days. This sword turns out to be the [[CoolSword Dragonsbane]], which is [[RagnarokProofing still extremely effective effective]] against dragons.



* '''Double Subverted''': However, he eventually finds a blacksmith who's able to reforge the broken blade into a powerful weapon.

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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
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However, he eventually finds a blacksmith who's able to [[ReforgedBlade reforge the broken blade into a powerful weapon.weapon]].
** The prophecy [[ExactWords merely says]] that whoever ''holds'' Dragonsbane will drive away the dragons. It never says he has to ''use'' it, or even that it has to be [[WreckedWeapon intact]].



* '''Lampshaded''': "You'd think magic swords would come with anti-rust charms as standard..."

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* '''Lampshaded''': "You'd think magic swords would come with [[RagnarokProofing anti-rust charms charms]] as standard..."
14th Jan '13 6:40:58 AM VPhantom
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* '''Downplayed''': Dragonsbane hasn't aged well, and takes a second look to see past the patina of rust and the rotted hilt, but it's still recognisable.

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* '''Downplayed''': Dragonsbane hasn't aged well, and takes a second look to see past the patina of rust and the rotted hilt, but it's still recognisable.recognizable.



* '''Inverted''': The Golden Blade of Hope is an incredibly ornate scimitar surrounded by [[FlamingSword yellow-white flames]]... but it's purely ceremonial, and totally impractical in a fight.
* '''Subverted''': Hiro finds an old, rusty sword and [[GenreSavvy thinks it might be useful]]... but when he tests it out, it breaks.

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* '''Inverted''': The Golden Blade of Hope is an incredibly ornate scimitar surrounded by [[FlamingSword yellow-white flames]]... but But it's purely ceremonial, and totally impractical in a fight.
* '''Subverted''': Hiro finds an old, rusty sword and [[GenreSavvy thinks it might be useful]]... but But when he tests it out, it breaks.



* '''Deconstructed''': Hiro recognises the Dragonsbane and, aware of its fearsome reputation, cleans the worst of the rust off and carries it into battle. However, despite his best efforts to polish it up, the years of neglect have left it brittle and dull and a shadow of its legendary reputation.
* '''Reconstructed''': Hiro seeks out the UltimateBlacksmith, who's able to [[ReforgedBlade restore the blade]] to its former glory. Even if it's never quite what it was, the terror on his foes' faces as they [[FamedInStory recognise the ancestral weapon]] more than makes up for it.



** The sword is old and rusty, and no-one so much as suggests that it might be a hidden artefact of power.

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** The sword is old and rusty, and no-one so much as suggests that it might be a hidden artefact artifact of power. power.



* '''Deconstructed''': Hiro recognizes the Dragonsbane and, aware of its fearsome reputation, cleans the worst of the rust off and carries it into battle. However, despite his best efforts to polish it up, the years of neglect have left it brittle and dull and a shadow of its legendary reputation.
* '''Reconstructed''': Hiro seeks out the UltimateBlacksmith, who's able to [[ReforgedBlade restore the blade]] to its former glory. Even if it's never quite what it was, the terror on his foes' faces as they [[FamedInStory recognize the ancestral weapon]] more than makes up for it.



* '''Played For Drama''': The Dragonsbane is the only weapon that stands a chance of defeating the dragon god Marduk... but it's been lost for eons, and when finally rediscovered, is in such a state of disrepair that it's practically unrecognizable.

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* '''Played For Drama''': The Dragonsbane is the only weapon that stands a chance of defeating the dragon god Marduk... but But it's been lost for eons, and when finally rediscovered, is in such a state of disrepair that it's practically unrecognizable.
unrecognizable.



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5th Jun '12 2:06:00 PM Telcontar
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* '''Averted''': Hiro finds the rusty sword in the ruins but leaves it, because his [[WeaponOfChoice preferred weapon is a pistol.]]

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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Hiro finds the rusty sword in the ruins but leaves it, because his [[WeaponOfChoice preferred weapon is a pistol.]]
10th Feb '12 7:27:21 AM johnnye
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* '''Invoked''': The sword is an EmpathicWeapon that disguises itself as a rusted piece of junk to attract a wielder of suitably humble nature.

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* '''Invoked''': The sword is an EmpathicWeapon that disguises itself as a rusted piece of junk to attract a wielder of suitably humble nature.HumbleHero to wield it.
10th Feb '12 6:41:45 AM johnnye
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* '''Downplayed''': Dragonsbane hasn't aged well, and takes a second look to see past the patina of rust and the rotted hilt, but it's still recognisable.



* '''Inverted''': The Golden Blade of Hope is an incredibly ornate scimitar surrounded by [[FlamingSword yellow-white flames]]... but it's so hot that it's insanely difficult to wield, and barely does ScratchDamage.

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* '''Inverted''': The Golden Blade of Hope is an incredibly ornate scimitar surrounded by [[FlamingSword yellow-white flames]]... but it's so hot that it's insanely difficult to wield, purely ceremonial, and barely does ScratchDamage.totally impractical in a fight.



** The blade was just for decoration. Its actually a LaserSword.



* '''Deconstructed''': Since the Dragonsbane looks old and crappy, Hiro doesn't even bother picking it up -- he already ''has'' a CoolSword, after all, and can easily buy and find even better ones along the way.
* '''Reconstructed''': The Dragonsbane belonged to Hiro's father, so he keeps it for sentimental value, eventually getting it fixed. Only ''then'' does he discover its true power.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Deconstructed''': Since Hiro recognises the Dragonsbane looks old and, aware of its fearsome reputation, cleans the worst of the rust off and crappy, Hiro doesn't even bother picking carries it up -- he already ''has'' a CoolSword, after all, into battle. However, despite his best efforts to polish it up, the years of neglect have left it brittle and can easily buy dull and find even better ones along the way.
a shadow of its legendary reputation.
* '''Reconstructed''': The Dragonsbane belonged Hiro seeks out the UltimateBlacksmith, who's able to Hiro's father, so he keeps [[ReforgedBlade restore the blade]] to its former glory. Even if it's never quite what it was, the terror on his foes' faces as they [[FamedInStory recognise the ancestral weapon]] more than makes up for sentimental value, eventually getting it fixed. Only ''then'' does he discover its true power.
it.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Hiro finds the rusty sword in the first episode, and is convinced that it's the weapon destined to defeat the BigBad. He lugs it around for ages trying to find someone worthy of restoring it, while some characters call him crazy and point out other, more powerful-looking weapons, and others quietly suggest that it might simply be a MagicFeather. Even after it's [[WreckedWeapon broken in a fight]], he keeps DreamingOfThingsToCome and pressing on with his personal quest. Eventually it's restored and discovered to be an EmpathicWeapon, and his unswerving faith in it makes it all the more powerful.



** The sword is old and rusty, meaning it is useless.
** There is no sword.
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???

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** The sword is old and rusty, meaning and no-one so much as suggests that it is useless.might be a hidden artefact of power.
** There is no sword.
* '''Enforced''': ???
The writers are going for AnAesop that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
"You'd think magic swords would come with anti-rust charms as standard..."
* '''Invoked''': ???
The sword is an EmpathicWeapon that disguises itself as a rusted piece of junk to attract a wielder of suitably humble nature.
* '''Exploited''': ???
An "{{Honest John|sDealership}}" manufacturer of cheap swords covers them with fake rust so he can pitch them as being long-neglected {{Ancestral Weapon}}s going for a song.
* '''Defied''': ???"Even if this sword ''was'' great once, it'd be ruined by all this rust!"



* '''Conversed''': ???

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* '''Conversed''': ???"He has to pick the legendary Dragonsbane out of the FlamingSword hanging in mid-air, the shining silver one on a plaque on the wall, or the rusty one sitting in the fireplace? Gee, I wonder..."
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