History PlayingWith / EvilChancellor

14th Apr '16 10:01:34 PM BananaPancakes
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Straight''': TheKingdom of Tropia has a good king and an evil GrandVizier. Or, the United States of Trope has a good President and an evil Vice President.
* '''Exaggerated''': The GrandVizier is ObviouslyEvil, refers to himself ''as'' the Evil Grand Vizier, and still has his job.
* '''Downplayed''': The vizier is a neutral or AmbiguouslyEvil figure often at odds with his king, but he usually [[IDidWhatIHadToDo does evil things out of necessity]] and isn't a main antagonist.

to:

* '''Straight''': TheKingdom of Tropia has [[TheGoodKing a good king king]] and an evil GrandVizier. Or, the United States of Trope has a good President and an evil Vice President.
* '''Exaggerated''': The GrandVizier is ObviouslyEvil, [[CardCarryingVillain refers to himself ''as'' himself]] ''[[CardCarryingVillain as]]'' [[CardCarryingVillain the Evil Grand Vizier, Vizier]], and still has his job.
* '''Downplayed''': The vizier is a neutral or AmbiguouslyEvil figure often at odds with his king, but he usually most of his evil deeds are [[IDidWhatIHadToDo does evil things done out of necessity]] and he isn't a main antagonist.



** The Grand Vizier of Tropia seems to be disloyal, but is later revealed to be loyal and the signs of disloyalty were coincidental. However, the king he is loyal to is bad, so the heroes think they have to get rid of both of them...until the vizier pulls a [[TheStarscream Starscream]] and ''then'' reveals he was GoodAllAlong and overthrew the king in order to PayEvilUntoEvil, becoming a much fairer ruler once he's actually on the throne.

to:

** The Grand Vizier of Tropia seems to be disloyal, but is later revealed to be loyal and the signs of disloyalty were coincidental. However, the his king he is loyal to is bad, so the heroes think they have to get rid of both of them...until the vizier pulls a [[TheStarscream Starscream]] and ''then'' reveals he was GoodAllAlong and overthrew the king in order to PayEvilUntoEvil, becoming a much fairer ruler once he's actually on the throne.



* '''Averted''': The chancellor of Tropia is [[TheGoodChancellor a good man and loyal to his king.]]

to:

* '''Averted''': The chancellor of Tropia is [[TheGoodChancellor a good man and loyal to his king.]]king]].



* '''Lampshaded''': The Grand Vizier throws a visiting hero into the dungeon for no reason. The hero turns to his cellmate and says "You know, once I saw the Grand Vizier I was sort of expecting this."
* '''Invoked''': The Grand Vizier is a good man, but his populace don't respect him. He assumes Machiavelli was right, and attempts to seem more evil so that they will fear him instead.
* '''Exploited''': The Grand Vizier's assistant is aware of his master's evil nature, and uses that to arrange his own schemes, knowing everyone will just assume the Vizier is behind it.
* '''Defied''': The Grand Vizier knows that people think he's evil, and spends most of his time finding ways to run the kingdom fairly and even [[PetTheDog pet a few dogs]] so that they'll stop thinking that.

to:

* '''Lampshaded''': The Grand Vizier throws a visiting hero into the dungeon for no reason. The hero turns to his cellmate and says says, "You know, once as soon as I saw the Grand Vizier Vizier, I was sort of expecting this."
* '''Invoked''': The Grand Vizier is a good man, but his populace don't population doesn't respect him. He assumes Machiavelli [[Creator/NiccoloMachiavelli Machiavelli]] was right, and attempts to seem more evil so that they will to make them fear him instead.
* '''Exploited''': The Grand Vizier's assistant is assistant, aware of his master's evil nature, and uses that to arrange his own schemes, knowing everyone will just assume the Vizier is behind it.
* '''Defied''': The Grand Vizier knows that people think he's evil, and spends most of his time finding ways to run the kingdom fairly and even [[PetTheDog pet a few dogs]] so that they'll to make them stop thinking that.



* '''Deconstructed''': The Grand Vizier is originally good and does his best to follow his king's orders, but the people never think ill of their king and, because [[DiscussedTrope this trope exists in the world]] they blame the Vizier for any of the King's mistakes, while not giving him any credit for things the government does ''right''. As a result, he's a very bitter and resentful character.

to:

* '''Implied''': The head of state ''seems'' much more pleasant than the head of government or chief administrator/advisor/what have you.
* '''Deconstructed''': The Grand Vizier is originally good and does his best to follow his king's orders, but the people never think ill of their king and, because [[DiscussedTrope this trope exists in the world]] they blame the Vizier for any of the King's mistakes, while not giving him any credit for things the government does ''right''. As a result, he's a he becomes very bitter and resentful character.[[TheResenter resentful]].



%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???

to:

%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A a Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For for Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For for Drama''': ???
22nd Mar '14 4:32:28 PM thestor
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Reconstructed''': His bitterness leads him to hate the King, becoming the evil vizier that everyone already thought he was.

to:

* '''Reconstructed''': His bitterness leads him to hate the King, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil becoming the evil vizier vizier]] that everyone already thought he was.
25th Jan '14 4:37:06 PM SKJAM
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Exploited''': ???

to:

* '''Exploited''': ???The Grand Vizier's assistant is aware of his master's evil nature, and uses that to arrange his own schemes, knowing everyone will just assume the Vizier is behind it.
29th Apr '13 6:35:50 AM VPhantom
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Justified''': The work is historically based and the period of history actually ''did'' have a coup by a grand vizier.

to:

* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
**
The work is historically based and the period of history actually ''did'' have a coup by a grand vizier.
29th Apr '13 4:12:34 AM memememememe
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Historically, Chancellors, Prime Minsters, Grand Advisors and such had more power with little publicity, making it a suitable spot for TheManBehindTheMan.

to:

** Historically, Chancellors, Prime Minsters, Grand Advisors and such had more power as actual Heads of Government with little publicity, making it a these positions suitable spot spots for TheManBehindTheMan.
29th Apr '13 4:11:48 AM memememememe
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Historically, Chancellors, Prime Minsters, Grand Advisors and such had more power with little publicity, making it a suitable spot for TheManBehindTheMan.
26th Mar '13 9:58:58 AM LadyJafaria
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Downplayed''': ???

to:

* '''Downplayed''': ???The vizier is a neutral or AmbiguouslyEvil figure often at odds with his king, but he usually [[IDidWhatIHadToDo does evil things out of necessity]] and isn't a main antagonist.
13th Jan '13 9:55:52 PM VPhantom
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''': The Grand Vizier is originally good and does his best to follow his king's orders, but the people never think ill of their king and, because [[DiscussedTrope this trope exists in the world]] they blame the Vizier for any of the King's mistakes, while not giving him any credit for things the government does ''right''. As a result, he's a very bitter and resentful character.
* '''Reconstructed''': His bitterness leads him to hate the King, becoming the evil vizier that everyone already thought he was.


Added DiffLines:

* '''Exploited''': ???


Added DiffLines:

* '''Deconstructed''': The Grand Vizier is originally good and does his best to follow his king's orders, but the people never think ill of their king and, because [[DiscussedTrope this trope exists in the world]] they blame the Vizier for any of the King's mistakes, while not giving him any credit for things the government does ''right''. As a result, he's a very bitter and resentful character.
* '''Reconstructed''': His bitterness leads him to hate the King, becoming the evil vizier that everyone already thought he was.


Added DiffLines:

%% Optional items, added after Conversed, at your discretion:
%%
%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
5th Jun '12 4:14:22 AM Telcontar
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''Zig Zagged''': The Grand Vizier of Tropia seems to be disloyal, but is later revealed to be loyal and the signs of disloyalty were coincidental. However, the king he is loyal to is bad, so the heroes think they have to get rid of both of them...until the vizier pulls a [[TheStarscream Starscream]] and ''then'' reveals he was GoodAllAlong and overthrew the king in order to PayEvilUntoEvil, becoming a much fairer ruler once he's actually on the throne.

to:

* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
**
The Grand Vizier of Tropia seems to be disloyal, but is later revealed to be loyal and the signs of disloyalty were coincidental. However, the king he is loyal to is bad, so the heroes think they have to get rid of both of them...until the vizier pulls a [[TheStarscream Starscream]] and ''then'' reveals he was GoodAllAlong and overthrew the king in order to PayEvilUntoEvil, becoming a much fairer ruler once he's actually on the throne.
13th Feb '12 11:55:04 AM EarlOfSandvich
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Not, however, anything to do with [[TheThiefAndTheCobbler this Zig Zag]] who plays the trope straight.

to:

** Not, however, anything to do with [[TheThiefAndTheCobbler [[WesternAnimation/TheThiefAndTheCobbler this Zig Zag]] who plays the trope straight.



This list shows the last 10 events of 16. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=PlayingWith.EvilChancellor