History PlayingWith / CourtlyLove

12th Nov '15 11:04:57 AM Eievie
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Alice has a little crush on Bob, but she is also happily married.
29th Dec '12 2:20:19 PM VPhantom
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* '''Downplayed''': ???



** Alice writes a flowery poem on the painful joy of love unattainable to Bob, and then she gives it to him, along with a request to take the relationship further...she wrote the poem simply to impress him with her skill as a poet and the depths of her feelings.

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** Alice writes a flowery poem on the painful joy of love unattainable to Bob, and then she gives it to him, along with a request to take the relationship further...she wrote the poem simply to impress him with her skill as a poet and the depths of her feelings.



* '''Parodied''':

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':



* '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob resolves to love Alice from afar, even though it is not impossible to consummate a relationship with her, because in doing so he is able to enjoy his tender, passionate feelings without any responsibility towards her, and also to more easily blind himself to any flaws she may have because he does not have to deal with them, thus selfishly falling in love with an idea rather than accepting the real Alice for what she may be.
** Alternatively, it is simply that Bob is unable to let go of Alice, despite her unattainability, and thus his overtures are more like being a StalkerWithACrush.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob concedes that his "love" for Alice may be unrealistic, but it fulfils a deep spiritual need that his loveless marriage of convenience doesn't. He thinks that if he were to throw all romanticism aside in favour of cynical pragmatism, he'd become an immoral person.
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob resolves to love Alice from afar, even though it is not impossible to consummate a relationship with her, because in doing so he is able to enjoy his tender, passionate feelings without any responsibility towards her, and also to more easily blind himself to any flaws she may have because he does not have to deal with them, thus selfishly falling in love with an idea rather than accepting the real Alice for what she may be.
** Alternatively, it is simply that Bob is unable to let go of Alice, despite her unattainability, and thus his overtures are more like being a StalkerWithACrush.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob concedes that his "love" for Alice may be unrealistic, but it fulfils a deep spiritual need that his loveless marriage of convenience doesn't. He thinks that if he were to throw all romanticism aside in favour of cynical pragmatism, he'd become an immoral person.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Ah look, Bob is longing for Alice from afar...he probably thinks he's in some sort of chivalrous romance novel."
* '''Invoked''': "Ah, what cruelty from Cupid, who shot the arrow of desire at me, that I may long after the lovely Alice, betrothed to the feudal lord for the sake of her father's ambitions...hmm, I think I shall write a sonnet about it."
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Ah look, Bob is longing for Alice from afar...he probably thinks he's in some sort of chivalrous romance novel."
novel".
* '''Invoked''': "Ah, what cruelty from Cupid, who shot the arrow of desire at me, that I may long after the lovely Alice, betrothed to the feudal lord for the sake of her father's ambitions...hmm, I think I shall write a sonnet about it."
it".
* '''Defied''': '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''':



* '''Discussed''': "It's nice to finally meet you, Bob. So, how many courtiers do you have loving you from afar? I've brought a couple as members of my personal retinue."
* '''Conversed''': "I'm sure that kind of relationship existed when everyone was stuck in {{Arranged Marriage}}s, but I'm skeptical about the idea that they weren't screwing around in secret."

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* '''Discussed''': "It's nice to finally meet you, Bob. So, how many courtiers do you have loving you from afar? I've brought a couple as members of my personal retinue."
retinue".
* '''Conversed''': "I'm sure that kind of relationship existed when everyone was stuck in {{Arranged Marriage}}s, but I'm skeptical about the idea that they weren't screwing around in secret."secret".
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob resolves to love Alice from afar, even though it is not impossible to consummate a relationship with her, because in doing so he is able to enjoy his tender, passionate feelings without any responsibility towards her, and also to more easily blind himself to any flaws she may have because he does not have to deal with them, thus selfishly falling in love with an idea rather than accepting the real Alice for what she may be.
** Alternatively, it is simply that Bob is unable to let go of Alice, despite her unattainability, and thus his overtures are more like being a StalkerWithACrush.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob concedes that his "love" for Alice may be unrealistic, but it fulfils a deep spiritual need that his loveless marriage of convenience doesn't. He thinks that if he were to throw all romanticism aside in favour of cynical pragmatism, he'd become an immoral person.



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7th Aug '12 7:39:38 AM johnnye
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** Bob, [[WrongGenreSavvy stop pretending you're a medieval troubadour]]. The truth is, [[DoggedNiceGuy you can't work up the courage to ask this girl out]] and you're trying to justify that to yourself. And to be honest, [[StalkerWithACrush it's beginning to get creepy.]]"

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** Bob, "Bob, [[WrongGenreSavvy stop pretending you're a medieval troubadour]]. The truth is, [[DoggedNiceGuy you can't work up the courage to ask this girl out]] and you're trying to justify that to yourself. And to be honest, [[StalkerWithACrush it's beginning to get creepy.]]"
7th Aug '12 7:39:21 AM johnnye
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* '''Defied''': Alice makes her desire for a relationship known to the one she loves, even if it might be socially unacceptable or even dangerous for her to do so.

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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Alice makes her desire for a relationship known to the one she loves, even if it might be socially unacceptable or even dangerous for her to do so.so.
** Bob, [[WrongGenreSavvy stop pretending you're a medieval troubadour]]. The truth is, [[DoggedNiceGuy you can't work up the courage to ask this girl out]] and you're trying to justify that to yourself. And to be honest, [[StalkerWithACrush it's beginning to get creepy.]]"
28th May '12 4:09:33 PM johnnye
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'''Basic Trope''': A commitment to pursuing a unconsummated relationship.

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'''Basic Trope''': A commitment to pursuing a an unconsummated relationship.
28th May '12 4:09:27 PM johnnye
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'''Basic Trope''': A commitment to pursuing a platonic relationship.

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'''Basic Trope''': A commitment to pursuing a platonic unconsummated relationship.



* '''Parodied''': Alice gets goo-goo eyes and talks nonsense whenever she sees Bob, who seems acutely embarassed by the whole thing. Charlotte just rolls her eyes.

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Alice gets goo-goo eyes and talks nonsense whenever she sees Bob, who seems acutely embarassed by the whole thing. Charlotte just rolls her eyes.eyes.
** The whole romance is treated like a modern high-school girl's CelebCrush. Alice has an oil painting of Bob over her bed which she kisses every night...



* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Reconstructed''': ???
Bob concedes that his "love" for Alice may be unrealistic, but it fulfils a deep spiritual need that his loveless marriage of convenience doesn't. He thinks that if he were to throw all romanticism aside in favour of cynical pragmatism, he'd become an immoral person.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Zagged''':
** Bob and Alice are devoted to the idea of Courtly Love, but sometimes they can't help themselves, and the series combines WillTheyOrWontThey with their internal moral struggle.
** Alice and Bob's culture celebrates courtly love in songs and stories; while some people take this seriously, others are just as adulterous and hedonistic as you'd expect. Sometimes this is treated as a fact of life, other times as a betrayal of one's marriage vows... basically, people's sex lives are just as diverse as they are in real life.



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Back to CourtlyLoveO, adore that fair and beauteous trope the angels call CourtlyLove. But go there not, for it is unseemly that we mere mortals should despoil its pristine perfection...
28th May '12 2:08:02 AM Telcontar
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* '''Subverted''': Alice writes a flowery poem on the painful joy of love unattainable to Bob, and then she gives it to him, along with a request to take the relationship further...she wrote the poem simply to impress him with her skill as a poet and the depths of her feelings.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Alice writes a flowery poem on the painful joy of love unattainable to Bob, and then she gives it to him, along with a request to take the relationship further...she wrote the poem simply to impress him with her skill as a poet and the depths of her feelings.



* '''Deconstructed''': Bob resolves to love Alice from afar, even though it is not impossible to consummate a relationship with her, because in doing so he is able to enjoy his tender, passionate feelings without any responsibility towards her, and also to more easily blind himself to any flaws she may have because he does not have to deal with them, thus selfishly falling in love with an idea rather than accepting the real Alice for what she may be.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Bob resolves to love Alice from afar, even though it is not impossible to consummate a relationship with her, because in doing so he is able to enjoy his tender, passionate feelings without any responsibility towards her, and also to more easily blind himself to any flaws she may have because he does not have to deal with them, thus selfishly falling in love with an idea rather than accepting the real Alice for what she may be.
13th Dec '11 2:55:31 PM Nocturna
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** Bob actually learns of Alice's devotion to him, and seeing as how the ArrangedMarriage is loveless and neither spouse pretends otherwise, the love stops being, well...[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean "from afar".]]

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** Bob actually learns of Alice's devotion to him, and seeing as how the ArrangedMarriage is loveless and neither spouse pretends otherwise, the love stops being, well...[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean "from afar".]]
13th Dec '11 2:12:43 PM johnnye
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* '''Straight''': Alice loves Bob, however he is to marry another, but Alice is happy simply to show him some affection without going any further.

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* '''Straight''': Alice loves Bob, however although he is to marry another, Charlotte, but Alice is happy simply to show him some affection without going any further.



* '''Justified''': It may be the only feasible way to honor ones feelings towards another, in a situation where pursuing a relationship may be impossible.
* '''Inverted''': Bob loves Alice, despite his being bethrotal to another, and longs for her even while he is committed to the betrothed one.

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* '''Justified''': It may be Bob and Charlotte are the scions of powerful FeudingFamilies, and their ArrangedMarriage has been the only feasible way thing preventing outright war since it was first planned. Bob's UnluckyChildhoodFriend Alice has come to honor ones feelings towards another, in a situation where pursuing a relationship may be impossible.
love him, and he her, but all concerned understand the necessity of the marriage and the danger of dishonoring it by adultery.
* '''Inverted''': Bob loves Alice, despite his being bethrotal betrothed to another, and longs for her even while he is committed to the betrothed one.



* '''Double Subverted''': Same as above, but she is made to abandon her boldness by Bob's betrothed, and she will have to settle for fulfilling the trope straightly.
* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Double Subverted''': Same as above, but she is made to abandon her boldness approaches by Bob's betrothed, and she will have to settle for fulfilling the trope straightly.
straight.
* '''Parodied''': ???Alice gets goo-goo eyes and talks nonsense whenever she sees Bob, who seems acutely embarassed by the whole thing. Charlotte just rolls her eyes.



** Alternatively, it is simply that Bob is unable to let go of Alice, despite her unattainability, and thus his overtures are more like being a Stalker With A Crush.
* '''Reconstructed''':
* '''Zig Zagged''':

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** Alternatively, it is simply that Bob is unable to let go of Alice, despite her unattainability, and thus his overtures are more like being a Stalker With A Crush.
StalkerWithACrush.
* '''Reconstructed''':
'''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???



* '''Discussed''': "It may seem romantic to pine from afar, but you'd be a lot happier if you just let go of Alice. She's married, and there's nothing you can do about it."
* '''Conversed''': "In my experience, courtly love tends to either be a refusal to let go, or perhaps even an excuse to enjoy feelings of passion without the responsibilities an actual relationship would entail."

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* '''Discussed''': "It may seem romantic "It's nice to pine finally meet you, Bob. So, how many courtiers do you have loving you from afar, but you'd be afar? I've brought a lot happier if you just let go couple as members of Alice. She's married, and there's nothing you can do about it.my personal retinue."
* '''Conversed''': "In my experience, courtly love tends to either be a refusal to let go, or perhaps even an excuse to enjoy feelings "I'm sure that kind of passion without the responsibilities an actual relationship would entail.existed when everyone was stuck in {{Arranged Marriage}}s, but I'm skeptical about the idea that they weren't screwing around in secret."
22nd May '11 3:58:22 PM Captainhook
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