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** Bob's acknowledgement of his faults or problems yet continuing to do so makes him appear worse since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning he comesoff as a hypocrite or worse throughout his character arc.

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** Bob's acknowledgement of his faults or problems yet continuing to do so indulge in his vices makes him appear worse worse, since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning himself. As a result, he comesoff comes off as a hypocrite or worse throughout his character arc.
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** Bob is a PsychoForHire and Alice and Charlie are evil politicians, and yet [[BewareTheHonestOnes Bob is more dangerous because he's honestly vile]] than Alice and Charlie are [[SlaveToPR because their veneer of righteousness gets in the way]].

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** Bob is a PsychoForHire and Alice and Charlie are an evil politicians, politician and a SmoothTalkingTalentAgent respectively, and yet [[BewareTheHonestOnes Bob is more dangerous because he's honestly vile]] than Alice and Charlie are [[SlaveToPR because their veneer of righteousness gets in the way]].

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* '''Averted''': Everyone agrees that nothing about admitting your wrongs ''inherently'' gives you the moral high ground.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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Everyone agrees that nothing about admitting your wrongs ''inherently'' gives you the moral high ground.ground.
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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].

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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman who prefers being considered right all the time and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].
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** Bob openly admits that he killed thousands of innocents [[ForTheEvulz just for fun]]. All of his friends agree that he was in the right to tell the truth.

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** Bob openly admits that he killed thousands of innocents [[ForTheEvulz just for fun]]. All of his friends agree that he was in the right to tell the truth.truth and is EasilyForgiven.
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** Bob's acknowledgement of his faults or problems yet continuing to do so makes him appear worse since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning he comes as a hypocrite or worse through out it.

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** Bob's acknowledgement of his faults or problems yet continuing to do so makes him appear worse since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning he comes comesoff as a hypocrite or worse through out it.throughout his character arc.
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** Bob is well-aware of his fault and embraces them, operating under a veneer of honesty and it is who he is. His expalantions may come from something like OrangeAndBlueMorality.

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** Bob is well-aware of his fault and embraces them, operating under a veneer of honesty and it is who he is. His expalantions explanations may come from something like OrangeAndBlueMorality.

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob isn't quite open about his crimes, but he makes no effort to hide them and is frank about what he's done when people ask him.

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Bob isn't quite open about his crimes, but he makes no effort to hide them and is frank about what he's done when people ask him.
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** Being a {{hypocrite}} is considered better than admitting you're wrong.

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** Being a {{hypocrite}} is considered better ''[[SlaveToPR better]]'' than admitting you're wrong.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob takes pride in being honest about his crimes compared to Alice and co.'s hypocrisy. However, because of this pride, he comes off as a self-aware SmugSnake that can do terrible things while knowing what they are. Of course, Bob gets around this by saying being open and content is better than being secretive and tortured, but Alice points out that his self-righteous attitude makes him even ''more'' of a hypocrite, especially since he's accused the heroes of feeling the same despite lying.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob takes pride in being honest about his crimes compared to Alice and co.'s hypocrisy. However, because of this pride, he comes off as a self-aware SmugSnake that can do terrible things while knowing what they are. Of course, Bob gets around this by saying being open and content is better than being secretive and tortured, but Alice points out that his self-righteous attitude makes him even ''more'' of a hypocrite, especially since he's accused the heroes of feeling the same despite lying. [[MakeWayForTheNewVillains But then]] [[GreaterScopeVillain Evulz]] comes along and he is such a repulsive smug little {{Trumplica}} who glorifies his evil in an attempt at RefugeInAudacity that Alice and her team finally accept that Bob at least has, [[EvilVirtues by villainous standards at least]], humbleness.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob takes pride in being honest about his crimes compared to Alice and co.'s hypocricy. However, because of this pride, he comes off as a self-aware SmugSnake that can do terrible things while knowing what they are. Of course, Bob gets around this by saying being open and content is better than being secretive and tortured, but Alice points out that his self-righteous attitude makes him even ''more'' of a hyprocrite, especially since he's accused the heroes of feeling the same despite lying.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob takes pride in being honest about his crimes compared to Alice and co.'s hypocricy.hypocrisy. However, because of this pride, he comes off as a self-aware SmugSnake that can do terrible things while knowing what they are. Of course, Bob gets around this by saying being open and content is better than being secretive and tortured, but Alice points out that his self-righteous attitude makes him even ''more'' of a hyprocrite, hypocrite, especially since he's accused the heroes of feeling the same despite lying.
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* Bob is a CardCarryingVillain/

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* Bob **Bob is a CardCarryingVillain/CardCarryingVillain.
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** Bob is a {{card-carrying|villain}} thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].

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** Bob is a {{card-carrying|villain}} [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].
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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].

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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] {{card-carrying|villain}} thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].
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** "No, you're right. Being honest about my flaws and mistakes means nothing if I don't actually try and become a better person. So that's what I'll do."

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** "No, you're right. Being In a moment of clarity, Bob realizes that being honest about my his flaws and mistakes misdeeds means nothing if I don't he doesn't actually try and [[TheAtoner become a better person. So that's what I'll do."person]].
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** Bob flat out states that he and Alice are both doing the same thing owing to circumstances with no judgement beyond [[NotSoDifferent that they are the same.]]

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** Bob flat out states that he and Alice are both doing the same thing owing to circumstances with no judgement beyond [[NotSoDifferent [[MirrorCharacter that they are the same.]]
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** Bob is projecting his own moral inadequacies onto everyone else; he presumes everyone else is just as rotten as him deep down and thus claims to be morally superior just for admitting it.
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** Bob flat out states that he and Alice are both doing the same thing owing to circumstances with no judgement beyond [[NotSoDifferent that they are the same.]]
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** Bob is confronted as to ''why'' he continues doing his what he does despite being aware it's wrong. He admits that he sees himself as BeyondRedemption and only serving as an AntiRoleModel, showing his acknowledgement as a form of resignation and defeat.

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** Bob is confronted as to ''why'' he continues doing his what he does despite being aware it's wrong. He admits that he sees himself as BeyondRedemption and only serving as an AntiRoleModel, showing his acknowledgement as a form of resignation and defeat.



** Bob confessing into admitting his vices and faults is actually a recent development he is now fully understading and the first step into becoming a better person now that he's aware of it. Change is difficult and painful, but admitting there ''is'' something worth changing means Bob is already bettering himself.

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** Bob confessing into admitting his vices and faults is actually a recent development he is now fully understading understanding and the first step into becoming a better person now that he's aware of it. Change is difficult and painful, but admitting there ''is'' something worth changing means Bob is already bettering himself.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's acknowledgement of his faults or problems yet continuing to do so makes him appear worse since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning he comes as a hypocrite or worse through out it.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Bob's acknowledgement of his faults or problems yet continuing to do so makes him appear worse since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning he comes as a hypocrite or worse through out it.it.
** Bob is confronted as to ''why'' he continues doing his what he does despite being aware it's wrong. He admits that he sees himself as BeyondRedemption and only serving as an AntiRoleModel, showing his acknowledgement as a form of resignation and defeat.



** Bob is well-aware of his fault and embraces them, operating under a veneer of honesty and it is who he is. His expalantions may come from something like OrangeAndBlueMorality or perhaps a form of resignation, seeing himself as an AntiRoleModel for others to not do with his issues.

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** Bob is well-aware of his fault and embraces them, operating under a veneer of honesty and it is who he is. His expalantions may come from something like OrangeAndBlueMorality or perhaps a form of resignation, seeing himself as an AntiRoleModel for others to not do with his issues.OrangeAndBlueMorality.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob acknowledges that he does bad things, but he doesn't make an effort to better himself. He clearly understands right from wrong, so his casual disregard for conventional morality shows that he's an amoral hypocrite at best and a remorseless sociopath at worst.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob acknowledges that he does bad things, but he doesn't make an effort to better himself. He clearly understands right from wrong, so Bob's acknowledgement of his casual disregard for conventional morality shows that he's an amoral faults or problems yet continuing to do so makes him appear worse since it would imply he is choosing not to improve himself, meaning he comes as a hypocrite at best and a remorseless sociopath at worst. or worse through out it.



** [[TheSociopath But hey, it's not like he regrets it or is even sorry about it]].
** Bob's honestly with his evilness pays off when he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone finally cross a line too far even for himself,]] and his self-acceptance of his flaws allows him to [[FaceHeelTurn change his ways]] more successfully than his more hypocritical friends.

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** [[TheSociopath But hey, it's not Bob is well-aware of his fault and embraces them, operating under a veneer of honesty and it is who he is. His expalantions may come from something like he regrets it OrangeAndBlueMorality or is even sorry about it]].
** Bob's honestly
perhaps a form of resignation, seeing himself as an AntiRoleModel for others to not do with his evilness pays off when he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone finally cross a line too far even for himself,]] issues.
** Bob seeing someone else do his faults, but hide them
and his self-acceptance of his flaws allows act shameful causes him to [[FaceHeelTurn see things differently and forces to take a good hard look at himself [[HeelRealization and seeing what sort]] [[JerkassRealization of person he is now.]] Thus, he comes to the decision to change that.
** Bob confessing into admitting
his ways]] more successfully than his more hypocritical friends.vices and faults is actually a recent development he is now fully understading and the first step into becoming a better person now that he's aware of it. Change is difficult and painful, but admitting there ''is'' something worth changing means Bob is already bettering himself.
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** "No, you're right. Being honest about my flaws and mistakes means nothing if I don't actually try and become a better person. So that's what I'll do."
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** Alice and Charlie are psychotic GeneralRipper-types who are willing to kill millions of people out of [[EvilIsPetty incredibly petty]] and/or racist reasons and perform actions just as (if not ''more'') vile to conceal said reasons. Charlie is also villainous, but the plot shades him as a LighterShadeOfBlack because because his openness at being a SatisfiedStreetRat is framed as "[[EvenEvilHasStandards more moral]]".

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** Alice and Charlie are psychotic GeneralRipper-types who are willing to kill millions of people out of [[EvilIsPetty incredibly petty]] and/or racist reasons and perform actions just as (if not ''more'') vile to conceal said reasons. Charlie is also villainous, but the plot shades him as a LighterShadeOfBlack ALighterShadeOfBlack because because his openness at being a SatisfiedStreetRat is framed as "[[EvenEvilHasStandards more moral]]".

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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[EvenEvilHasStandards but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].

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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[EvenEvilHasStandards [[KarmicNod but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].


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** Alice and Charlie are psychotic GeneralRipper-types who are willing to kill millions of people out of [[EvilIsPetty incredibly petty]] and/or racist reasons and perform actions just as (if not ''more'') vile to conceal said reasons. Charlie is also villainous, but the plot shades him as a LighterShadeOfBlack because because his openness at being a SatisfiedStreetRat is framed as "[[EvenEvilHasStandards more moral]]".
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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes". Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[EvenEvilHasStandards but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].

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** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes"."crimes"]]. Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[EvenEvilHasStandards but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].

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* '''Straight''': Bob admits that he's lied to Alice, stolen Charlie's money, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking mooches off of porn]]. Bob, Alice, and Charlie all agree that Bob is a better man than he would be if he had hidden his shortcomings or lied about them.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob openly admits that he killed thousands of innocents [[ForTheEvulz just for fun]]. All of his friends agree that he was in the right to tell the truth.

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Bob admits that he's lied to Alice, stolen Charlie's money, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking mooches off of porn]]. Bob, Alice, and Charlie all agree that Bob is a better man than he would be if he had hidden his shortcomings or lied about them.
** Bob is a [[CardCarryingVillain card-carrying]] thief while Charlie is a conman and Alice is a CorruptCorporateExecutive who absolutely refuse to label the things they do as "crimes". Bob makes clear that he knows he's a bad man and he's going to Hell for his crimes [[EvenEvilHasStandards but he can at least look at himself in the mirror and accept it]].
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Bob openly admits that he killed thousands of innocents [[ForTheEvulz just for fun]]. All of his friends agree that he was in the right to tell the truth.truth.
** Bob is a PsychoForHire and Alice and Charlie are evil politicians, and yet [[BewareTheHonestOnes Bob is more dangerous because he's honestly vile]] than Alice and Charlie are [[SlaveToPR because their veneer of righteousness gets in the way]].

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