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29th Oct '15 8:25:33 AM JoieDeCombat
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* About the only thing that the vampires of ''VisualNovel/CodeRealize'' have in common with the classic lore is that their physical capabilities are greater than those of normal humans. Vampires in the game's setting are described as a sub-race of humans rather than being undead, and interbreeding with humanity means that pure-blooded vampires have become vanishingly rare even before [[spoiler:most of the species were wiped out by the human-initiated Vampire War]].
30th Sep '15 9:35:56 AM JoieDeCombat
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* In the RomanceGame ''VisualNovel/ShallWeDateBloodInRoses'', vampires can turn people into their "belongings" by the way they suck that person's blood. They can also make their "belonging" do whatever they want when their eyes turn [[RedEyesTakeWarning red]]. Two of the guys in the game attempted to do this to the heroine and make her their "belonging" and the player can choose which guy from that bunch, if they want either, "succeeded".
30th Nov '12 7:56:52 AM MarqFJA
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* The {{Nasuverse}} (emphasis on ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'') muddles the meaning of "vampire" quite a bit. There are two categories listed below, but all vampires generally lack the classical weaknesses. The only ones that seem to be true are that they have trouble with large bodies of water and are weak to sunlight, though this applies more to Dead Apostles. True Ancestors merely don't like it. Holy powers do work on them, but they're not ''particularly'' effective.
** True Ancestors are the original vampires, spirit beings so powerful they can manifest in a physical form. They were willed into being by the planet itself as a self-protection program against the spread of humanity. They don't need to drink blood at all, but because the Crimson Moon tricked Gaia into using him as the template, they have a desire for it so powerful that they must use their own power to suppress it. If their will fails, they go insane and become Demon Lords, so the sane True Ancestors created Arcueid to deal with them. Apart from Altrouge and Arcueid, they are considered to be extinct.

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* The {{Nasuverse}} (emphasis on ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'') muddles the meaning of "vampire" quite a bit. There are two categories listed -- "True Ancestors" and "Dead Apostles" -- detailed below, but all vampires generally lack the classical weaknesses. The only ones that seem to be true are that they have trouble with large bodies of water and are weak to sunlight, though this applies more to Dead Apostles. True Ancestors merely don't like it. Holy powers do work on them, but they're not ''particularly'' effective.
** True Ancestors are the original vampires, spirit beings so powerful they can manifest in a physical form. They were willed into being by the planet itself as a self-protection program against the spread of humanity. They don't need to drink blood at all, but because the Crimson Moon tricked Gaia into using him as the template, they have a desire for it so powerful that they must use their own power to suppress it. If their will fails, they go insane and become Demon Lords, so the sane True Ancestors created Arcueid to deal with them. Apart from Arcueid and Altrouge (who is a ''hybrid'' of True Ancestor and Arcueid, Dead Apostle), they are considered to be extinct.
30th Nov '12 7:55:18 AM MarqFJA
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** Dead Apostles, the other category, are a bit more complicated. A Dead Apostle is created either when another vampire sucks their blood or when their research into immortality reaches the point where they enter this category. For the first category, they begin as zombies, become mindless ghouls and another step or two with long periods in between until finally they are a vampire. The odds of any one zombie becoming a vampire is very low, but magical potential boosts both the odds and the rate [[spoiler:as seen with Satsuki Yumizuka, who became a Dead Apostle literally overnight.]] Unlike the more powerful True Ancestors, a Dead Apostle will have some extremely bizarre form of ability, such as bird men, a vampiric forest, a man who has turned himself into chaos itself or the will of a planet. Some beings are classified as Dead Apostle only because they act somewhat like them, however, such as ORT or Primate Murder.

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** Dead Apostles, the other category, are a bit more complicated. A Dead Apostle is created either when another vampire sucks their blood or when their research into immortality reaches the point where they enter this category. For the first category, they begin as zombies, become mindless ghouls and another step or two with long periods in between until finally they are a vampire. The odds of any one zombie becoming a vampire is very low, but magical potential boosts both the odds and the rate [[spoiler:as seen with Satsuki Yumizuka, who became a Dead Apostle literally overnight.]] Unlike the more powerful True Ancestors, a Dead Apostles (particularly their leaders, the Dead Apostle will Ancestors) tend to have some extremely bizarre form of or ability, with such wonderful specimens as bird men, [[HalfHumanHybrid a bird-man]], a vampiric forest, ''mobile forest'', a man who has turned himself into chaos itself or the will a mass of chaos, and a planet.magus who literally transformed himself into a '''phenomenon'''. Some beings are classified as Dead Apostle only because they act somewhat like them, however, such as ORT or Primate Murder.
30th Nov '12 6:52:06 AM Arha
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* The {{Nasuverse}} (emphasis on ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'') muddles the meaning of "vampire" quite a bit:
** True Ancestors are the original vampires, spirit beings so powerful they can manifest in a physical form. They were willed into being ''by the planet itself'' as a self-protection program against the spread of humanity. They don't need to drink blood at all, but because the Crimson Moon tricked Gaia into using him as the template, they inevitably succumb to [[SuperpoweredEvilSide bloodlust]] anyway.
*** Even then most True Ancestors restrained themselves from drinking human blood,knowing that once they taste man blood it would become an all-consuming addiction.However some True Ancestors apparently went down this road and created their own nightmarish domains & became known as "Demon Lords"s. Arcueid was apparently created by the other True Ancestors as a Demon lord hunter.
**** Incidentally, Arcueid usually has to spend 70% of her strength to hold back her blood lust.
** Dead Apostles start out as mindless zombies (created by another vampire injecting some of their own blood into a person) that gradually gain in power and intelligence over hundreds of years as they feed on flesh and blood until they finally evolve into complete vampires. Arcueid gives specific, vanishing odds for undead to make it out of each stage. Of course, if you have the magic potential and/or sheer luck, it ''is'' possible to skip a few steps, [[spoiler:like Satsuki, who skipped straight to the final stage, ''complete with a Reality Marble'']].
** And then for the wtf-factor, we have: a mobile bloodsucking forest, a phenomenon that doesn't actually "exist", a crow-man/thing, a little boy with demons for limbs, a chaotic composite of 666 familiars that feast on human flesh, and an EldritchAbomination/personification of Mercury that half got the designation by virtue of [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt killing a Dead Apostle who tried to study it]].
** In any case, neither are susceptible to stakes, or the traditional anti-vampire weapons. While cannon fodder vampires can be harmed by guns and swords, most of the stronger Dead Apostles (and ''all'' of the True Ancestors, as well as the strange group of Dead Apostle Ancestors) cannot be harmed by "real" weapons. By the rules of the {{Nasuverse}}, this means something mythical on the same scale as a "mythical" being like a vampire. Not to mention, even if they ''are'' hurt, the stronger ones can come back to life by ''reversing time''. The most extreme example? [[spoiler:Roa regenerating himself after being slashed apart down to his ''ankles'' by Arcueid]] in ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}''. Granted, that was only possible because the moon was full.
** Basically, the one "weakness" common to all Nasuverse vampires (True Ancestors ''and'' Dead Apostles) is [[strike:Nanaya]] sunlight. On one end are most Dead Apostles, for whom sunlight greatly hastens their bodies' degeneration; on the other end is Arcueid, who during daytime ranges from "somewhat weaker" to "sluggish and lethargic" (on the sunniest of days). Arcueid also seems to have very allergic to garlic, though whether this applies to all vampires (or should even be considered canon) is not clear.
** Oh, and the first vampire, who made/inspired the others? It's probably easiest to describe it as the EldritchAbomination AnthropomorphicPersonification ''of the moon''
** Then again you could probably count on your fingers the amount of times the word "vampire" was actually said.
---> Arcueid: "Dead Apostiles eat people and True Ancestors are out to hunt them."\\
Shiki: "Oh, you mean like vampires, right?" \\
Arcueid: "Yeah, I guess you can call it that."
** According to ''Literature/FateZero'', there are even some mages who experiment on creating Dead Apostles. The only example given of this phenomenon is via the creation of a potion. Even so, the results aren't [[CameBackWrong as planned]].
*** It's not the only example we see. [[AllThereInTheManual Character material]] for Nrvnqsr Chaos explains that he was a magus who successfully became a Dead Apostle via his experiments.
** And technically, there are other entities and individuals such as ORT or Zouken Matou that pretty much fit the bill for being what one could consider "vampires" and have most of the properties of one. However, since the Church doesn't hunt them, they aren't classified in universe as such.

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* The {{Nasuverse}} (emphasis on ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'') muddles the meaning of "vampire" quite a bit:
bit. There are two categories listed below, but all vampires generally lack the classical weaknesses. The only ones that seem to be true are that they have trouble with large bodies of water and are weak to sunlight, though this applies more to Dead Apostles. True Ancestors merely don't like it. Holy powers do work on them, but they're not ''particularly'' effective.
** True Ancestors are the original vampires, spirit beings so powerful they can manifest in a physical form. They were willed into being ''by by the planet itself'' itself as a self-protection program against the spread of humanity. They don't need to drink blood at all, but because the Crimson Moon tricked Gaia into using him as the template, they inevitably succumb have a desire for it so powerful that they must use their own power to [[SuperpoweredEvilSide bloodlust]] anyway.
*** Even then most
suppress it. If their will fails, they go insane and become Demon Lords, so the sane True Ancestors restrained themselves from drinking human blood,knowing that once they taste man blood it would become an all-consuming addiction.However some True Ancestors apparently went down this road and created their own nightmarish domains & became known as "Demon Lords"s. Arcueid was apparently created by to deal with them. Apart from Altrouge and Arcueid, they are considered to be extinct.
** Dead Apostles,
the other True Ancestors as category, are a Demon lord hunter.
**** Incidentally, Arcueid usually has to spend 70% of her strength to hold back her blood lust.
**
bit more complicated. A Dead Apostles start out as mindless zombies (created by Apostle is created either when another vampire injecting some of sucks their own blood or when their research into a person) that gradually gain in power and intelligence over hundreds of years as immortality reaches the point where they feed on flesh enter this category. For the first category, they begin as zombies, become mindless ghouls and blood another step or two with long periods in between until they finally evolve into complete vampires. Arcueid gives specific, vanishing odds for undead to make it out of each stage. Of course, if you have the magic potential and/or sheer luck, it ''is'' possible to skip a few steps, [[spoiler:like Satsuki, who skipped straight to the final stage, ''complete with a Reality Marble'']].
** And then for the wtf-factor, we have: a mobile bloodsucking forest, a phenomenon that doesn't actually "exist", a crow-man/thing, a little boy with demons for limbs, a chaotic composite of 666 familiars that feast on human flesh, and an EldritchAbomination/personification of Mercury that half got the designation by virtue of [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt killing a Dead Apostle who tried to study it]].
** In any case, neither
they are susceptible to stakes, or the traditional anti-vampire weapons. While cannon fodder vampires can be harmed by guns and swords, most of the stronger Dead Apostles (and ''all'' of the True Ancestors, as well as the strange group of Dead Apostle Ancestors) cannot be harmed by "real" weapons. By the rules of the {{Nasuverse}}, this means something mythical on the same scale as a "mythical" being like a vampire. Not to mention, even if they ''are'' hurt, the stronger ones can come back to life by ''reversing time''. The most extreme example? [[spoiler:Roa regenerating himself after being slashed apart down to his ''ankles'' by Arcueid]] in ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}''. Granted, that was only possible because the moon was full.
** Basically, the
odds of any one "weakness" common to all Nasuverse vampires (True Ancestors ''and'' Dead Apostles) zombie becoming a vampire is [[strike:Nanaya]] sunlight. On one end are most Dead Apostles, for whom sunlight greatly hastens their bodies' degeneration; on the other end is Arcueid, who during daytime ranges from "somewhat weaker" to "sluggish and lethargic" (on the sunniest of days). Arcueid also seems to have very allergic to garlic, though whether this applies to all vampires (or should even be considered canon) is not clear.
** Oh,
low, but magical potential boosts both the odds and the first vampire, rate [[spoiler:as seen with Satsuki Yumizuka, who made/inspired the others? It's probably easiest to describe it as the EldritchAbomination AnthropomorphicPersonification ''of the moon''
** Then again you could probably count on your fingers the amount of times the word "vampire" was actually said.
---> Arcueid: "Dead Apostiles eat people and True Ancestors are out to hunt them."\\
Shiki: "Oh, you mean like vampires, right?" \\
Arcueid: "Yeah, I guess you can call it that."
** According to ''Literature/FateZero'', there are even some mages who experiment on creating Dead Apostles. The only example given of this phenomenon is via the creation of a potion. Even so, the results aren't [[CameBackWrong as planned]].
*** It's not the only example we see. [[AllThereInTheManual Character material]] for Nrvnqsr Chaos explains that he was a magus who successfully
became a Dead Apostle via his experiments.
** And technically, there
literally overnight.]] Unlike the more powerful True Ancestors, a Dead Apostle will have some extremely bizarre form of ability, such as bird men, a vampiric forest, a man who has turned himself into chaos itself or the will of a planet. Some beings are other entities and individuals classified as Dead Apostle only because they act somewhat like them, however, such as ORT or Zouken Matou that pretty much fit the bill for being what one could consider "vampires" and have most of the properties of one. However, since the Church doesn't hunt them, they aren't classified in universe as such.Primate Murder.
30th Nov '12 3:01:37 AM MarqFJA
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* The {{Nasuverse}} (emphasis on ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'') muddles the meaning of "vampire" quite a bit:
** True Ancestors are the original vampires, spirit beings so powerful they can manifest in a physical form. They were willed into being ''by the planet itself'' as a self-protection program against the spread of humanity. They don't need to drink blood at all, but because the Crimson Moon tricked Gaia into using him as the template, they inevitably succumb to [[SuperpoweredEvilSide bloodlust]] anyway.
*** Even then most True Ancestors restrained themselves from drinking human blood,knowing that once they taste man blood it would become an all-consuming addiction.However some True Ancestors apparently went down this road and created their own nightmarish domains & became known as "Demon Lords"s. Arcueid was apparently created by the other True Ancestors as a Demon lord hunter.
**** Incidentally, Arcueid usually has to spend 70% of her strength to hold back her blood lust.
** Dead Apostles start out as mindless zombies (created by another vampire injecting some of their own blood into a person) that gradually gain in power and intelligence over hundreds of years as they feed on flesh and blood until they finally evolve into complete vampires. Arcueid gives specific, vanishing odds for undead to make it out of each stage. Of course, if you have the magic potential and/or sheer luck, it ''is'' possible to skip a few steps, [[spoiler:like Satsuki, who skipped straight to the final stage, ''complete with a Reality Marble'']].
** And then for the wtf-factor, we have: a mobile bloodsucking forest, a phenomenon that doesn't actually "exist", a crow-man/thing, a little boy with demons for limbs, a chaotic composite of 666 familiars that feast on human flesh, and an EldritchAbomination/personification of Mercury that half got the designation by virtue of [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt killing a Dead Apostle who tried to study it]].
** In any case, neither are susceptible to stakes, or the traditional anti-vampire weapons. While cannon fodder vampires can be harmed by guns and swords, most of the stronger Dead Apostles (and ''all'' of the True Ancestors, as well as the strange group of Dead Apostle Ancestors) cannot be harmed by "real" weapons. By the rules of the {{Nasuverse}}, this means something mythical on the same scale as a "mythical" being like a vampire. Not to mention, even if they ''are'' hurt, the stronger ones can come back to life by ''reversing time''. The most extreme example? [[spoiler:Roa regenerating himself after being slashed apart down to his ''ankles'' by Arcueid]] in ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}''. Granted, that was only possible because the moon was full.
** Basically, the one "weakness" common to all Nasuverse vampires (True Ancestors ''and'' Dead Apostles) is [[strike:Nanaya]] sunlight. On one end are most Dead Apostles, for whom sunlight greatly hastens their bodies' degeneration; on the other end is Arcueid, who during daytime ranges from "somewhat weaker" to "sluggish and lethargic" (on the sunniest of days). Arcueid also seems to have very allergic to garlic, though whether this applies to all vampires (or should even be considered canon) is not clear.
** Oh, and the first vampire, who made/inspired the others? It's probably easiest to describe it as the EldritchAbomination AnthropomorphicPersonification ''of the moon''
** Then again you could probably count on your fingers the amount of times the word "vampire" was actually said.
---> Arcueid: "Dead Apostiles eat people and True Ancestors are out to hunt them."\\
Shiki: "Oh, you mean like vampires, right?" \\
Arcueid: "Yeah, I guess you can call it that."
** According to ''Literature/FateZero'', there are even some mages who experiment on creating Dead Apostles. The only example given of this phenomenon is via the creation of a potion. Even so, the results aren't [[CameBackWrong as planned]].
*** It's not the only example we see. [[AllThereInTheManual Character material]] for Nrvnqsr Chaos explains that he was a magus who successfully became a Dead Apostle via his experiments.
** And technically, there are other entities and individuals such as ORT or Zouken Matou that pretty much fit the bill for being what one could consider "vampires" and have most of the properties of one. However, since the Church doesn't hunt them, they aren't classified in universe as such.
* In ''VisualNovel/{{Fortune Arterial}}'', where many vampires strive to fit in among normal humans, their need for blood is similar to a substance addiction that has to be periodically quenched, and they also possess none of the traditional weaknesses, but cannot make more vampires via feeding. Rather, one who ''consumes'' a vampire's blood becomes a ''kenzoku'' (progeny,) gaining the abilities of a vampire (minus blood-sucking) but becoming bound to that vampire as a servant and an all-day breakfast on legs. While blood bags are commonly used, they cannot sustain a vampire forever--eventually, they will have to suck the blood of a human. Vampires typically make a [[MagicallyBindingContract contract]] with a human who becomes their servant and provides them with a source of blood, in exchange for immortality. The vampires also have the ability to [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase memories]]. Also, while their eyes are not normally red, they do turn red when sucking blood or using their memory-erasure.
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