History OlderThanTheyThink / Other

24th Apr '17 11:34:58 AM rmctagg09
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* While the Medieval Europeans are usually credited with inventing the fully plate-armored knight, forms of rigid metal armor for the entire body had actually been invented far back in the bronze age. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendra_panoply Dendra panoply]] is a Mycenaean era plate armor dated to about 1500 BC. This type of armour is known amongst the re-enactors as "oil-barrel armour", and it was used mainly by the ''maryannu'', charioteers. Medieval Europeans didn't invent maille armor either, since it appeared in the Celtic regions of Europe around the beginning of the 4th century BC, and the Romans adopted it as ''lorica hamata''. In fact, the invention of the famous segmented plate ''lorica segmentata'' in the late 1st century BC [[https://myarmoury.com/feature_mail.html did not make mail obsolete and was actually outlasted by it]], challenging the preconception that plate armor is self-evidently superior to mail as protection or technologically more advanced. The unique achievement of the Europeans during the 14th and 15th centuries was to create a sophisticated system of plate-on-plate articulation that made it possible for armor to be both closer-fitting and more flexible. This was never the only solution to the problem, however, since Ottoman Siaphis and Japanese Samurai fought with a similar level of protection, the first with plate-and-mail and the second with lamellar or laminar armor.

to:

* While the Medieval Europeans are usually credited with inventing the fully plate-armored knight, forms of rigid metal armor for the entire body had actually been invented far back in the bronze age.Bronze Age. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendra_panoply Dendra panoply]] is a Mycenaean era plate armor dated to about 1500 BC. This type of armour is known amongst the re-enactors as "oil-barrel armour", and it was used mainly by the ''maryannu'', charioteers. Medieval Europeans didn't invent maille armor either, since it appeared in the Celtic regions of Europe around the beginning of the 4th century BC, and the Romans adopted it as ''lorica hamata''. In fact, the invention of the famous segmented plate ''lorica segmentata'' in the late 1st century BC [[https://myarmoury.com/feature_mail.html did not make mail obsolete and was actually outlasted by it]], challenging the preconception that plate armor is self-evidently superior to mail as protection or technologically more advanced. The unique achievement of the Europeans during the 14th and 15th centuries was to create a sophisticated system of plate-on-plate articulation that made it possible for armor to be both closer-fitting and more flexible. This was never the only solution to the problem, however, since Ottoman Siaphis and Japanese Samurai fought with a similar level of protection, the first with plate-and-mail and the second with lamellar or laminar armor.



** And speaking of knights, heavy shock cavalry with both horse and rider armoured was already known in the 4th century BC. They were known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract cataphracts]]. It is likely the Knights of Round Table are based on Roman cataphract unit...

to:

** And speaking of knights, heavy shock cavalry with both horse and rider armoured was already known in the 4th century BC. They were known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract cataphracts]]. It is likely the Knights of Round Table are based on Roman cataphract unit...units...



** The first true cataphracts were used by the Scythians and the Parthians. There are also records of Greeks fighting Persian cataphract-like units during the 5th century BC, and even then that is simply the Western worlds first known encounter with them. The idea of heavy cavalry is even older.

to:

** The first true cataphracts were used by the Scythians and the Parthians. There are also records of Greeks fighting Persian cataphract-like units during the 5th century BC, and even then that is simply the Western worlds world's first known encounter with them. The idea of heavy cavalry is even older.
24th Apr '17 10:44:01 AM dracogeorge
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** And speaking of knights, heavy shock cavalry with both horse and rider armoured was already knewn in the 4th century BC. They were known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract cataphracts]]. It is likely the Knights of Round Table are based on Roman cataphract unit...

to:

** And speaking of knights, heavy shock cavalry with both horse and rider armoured was already knewn known in the 4th century BC. They were known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract cataphracts]]. It is likely the Knights of Round Table are based on Roman cataphract unit...



** The first true cataphracts were used by the Scythians and the Parthians. There are also records of Greeks fighting Persian cataphract-like units during the 5th century BC, and even then that is simply the Western worlds first known encounter with them. The idea of heavy cavalry is even older.



** The [[AncientGreece Ancient Greeks]] knew the gas warfare - the Spartan forces besieging an Athenian city placed a lighted mixture of wood, pitch, and sulfur under the walls hoping that the noxious smoke would incapacitate the Athenians, so that they would not be able to resist the assault that followed. Sparta was not alone in its use of unconventional tactics in ancient Greece: Solon of Athens is said to have used hellebore roots to poison the water in an aqueduct leading from the River Pleistos around 590 BC during the siege of Kirrha.

to:

** The [[AncientGreece Ancient Greeks]] knew the about gas warfare - the Spartan forces besieging an Athenian city placed a lighted mixture of wood, pitch, and sulfur under the walls hoping that the noxious smoke would incapacitate the Athenians, so that they would not be able to resist the assault that followed. Sparta was not alone in its use of unconventional tactics in ancient Greece: Solon of Athens is said to have used hellebore roots to poison the water in an aqueduct leading from the River Pleistos around 590 BC during the siege of Kirrha.
24th Apr '17 1:54:24 AM SubjectFive
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Though now synonymous with the theory of evolution, the existence of dinosaurs had in fact been known long before Darwin ever published his famous book. Even evolutionary proponent Jean-Baptiste Lamarck had never considered that dinosaurs could contribute greatly to understanding evolution, partly due to how early portrayals of them were skewed (they were believed to be fat ,lazy lizards) and were written off as evolutionary dead ends. It wasn't until this mistake was corrected and the idea of humanity having a "common ancestor" as claimed by Charles Darwin that paleontologists began to more closely associate dinosaurs with evolution.
21st Apr '17 7:04:22 AM hszmv1
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The first reported UFO Crash was the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident Aurora Incident]], which was said to have crashed into a farm after hitting a windmill, though witnesses said it was smoking before hitting the windmill. The pilot survived and was buried in the town's cemetery with "Full Christian Rights". The cemetery commission refuses to exhume the body and has even removed the marker to prevent tourists and nuts from finding the spot.
20th Apr '17 12:57:39 PM hszmv1
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Lincoln may not have coined the phrase, but he did use the phrase "That's cool [with me]" in the same context a modern speaker would use the phrase.
20th Apr '17 11:45:54 AM hszmv1
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The First Aircraft Carrier was the U.S.S. George Washington Parke Custis. It was equipped with a single Balloon that was used for aerial recon on Confederate camps and launched its first successful operation in November 1861, 80 years before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor made them the capital class ships that we think of.
15th Apr '17 9:14:58 AM littlewings
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The "[[https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2999990/cash-me-ousside-girl-danielle-bregoli-dr-phil/ Cash Me Ousside Girl]] did not originate on ''Series/DrPhil'' in 2016. In fact, there was another, far more obscure "Cash Me Ousside Girl" who was well-known around Bolton, Bury, Farnworth, Walkden, Worsley, Little Hulton, Tyldesley and Leigh in August 2004, but she was 19 at the time, and not 14 like the current one, Danielle Bregoli.
14th Apr '17 3:37:52 PM Merseyuser1
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The "[[https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2999990/cash-me-ousside-girl-danielle-bregoli-dr-phil/ Cash Me Ousside Girl]] did not originate on ''Series/DrPhil'' in 2016. In fact, there was another, far more obscure "Cash Me Ousside Girl" who was well-known around Bolton, Bury, Farnworth, Walkden, Worsley, Little Hulton, Tyldesley and Leigh in August 2004, but she was 19 at the time, and not 14 like the current one, Danielle Bregoli.
12th Apr '17 8:42:43 PM ryanasaurus0077
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The idea of a female President of the United States goes back even before Shirley Chisholm broke new ground by becoming the first woman in contention for a Presidential ticket--while President Woodrow Wilson was suffering from a debilitating stroke that had catapulted him well over the DespairEventHorizon, his wife Edith ran the executive branch in his stead while his staff kept his illness a secret, effectively serving as, for all intents and purposes, the 28½th President of the United States.
12th Apr '17 2:50:34 PM LucaEarlgrey
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* U.S. President UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's "Make America Great Again" CatchPhrase actually [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again dates back]] to UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan's 1980 presidential campaign.
This list shows the last 10 events of 506. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=OlderThanTheyThink.Other