History OldShame / WesternAnimation

1st Aug '17 6:06:32 PM FlyingDuckManGenesis
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* PBS and the crew behind ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' now seem to feel this way about the Season 12 episode "Room to Ride" and the Season 13 episode "The Great [=MacGrady=]," as both prominently feature former cycling champion Lance Armstrong as a guest celebrity (which has long been a norm for the series); in the wake of the doping scandal that saw Armstrong stripped of all of his Tour de France titles, both episodes have rarely been rerun on television as a result.
** Made worse by the fact that the latter episode focuses on a major character in the series dealing with their struggles against cancer, which Lance Armstrong himself suffered and eventually overcame.

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* *''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'':
** "Arthur's Big Hit" is one of Marc Brown's least favorite episodes, due to its BrokenAesop and D.W. not being punished for destroying Arthur's model airplane.
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PBS and the crew behind ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' the show now seem to feel this way about the Season 12 episode "Room to Ride" and the Season 13 episode "The Great [=MacGrady=]," as both prominently feature former cycling champion Lance Armstrong as a guest celebrity (which has long been a norm for the series); in the wake of the doping scandal that saw Armstrong stripped of all of his Tour de France titles, both episodes have rarely been rerun on television as a result.
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result. Made worse by the fact that the latter episode focuses on a major character in the series dealing with their struggles against cancer, which Lance Armstrong himself suffered and eventually overcame. overcame.
30th Jul '17 6:15:27 PM Twentington
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** They likewise weren't fond of the fourth season of ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' which was commissioned without it's creator, Aaron [=McGruder=], at the helm. Leading to a ton of character {{Flanderization}}, OOC moments and outlandish plots that even the fans of the series thought were too stupid for this show. As such they ''rarely'' rerun it and most of the time, go back to the first episode after the finale of season 3, "Its Goin Down", which was intended to be the true finale of the series anyway.

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** They likewise weren't fond of the fourth season of ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' which was commissioned without it's its creator, Aaron [=McGruder=], at the helm. Leading to a ton of character {{Flanderization}}, OOC moments and outlandish plots that even the fans of the series thought were too stupid for this show. As such they ''rarely'' rerun it and most of the time, go back to the first episode after the finale of season 3, "Its Goin Down", which was intended to be the true finale of the series anyway.
30th Jul '17 6:07:40 PM Twentington
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** In a recent interview, they also feel ashamed of the way they portrayed Gary Condit and the Ramseys in "Butters Very Own Episode", after both parties were proven by DNA evidence to be innocent. That Patsy Ramsey died shortly after the episode aired didn't help its case one bit.

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** In a recent an interview, they also feel ashamed of the way they portrayed Gary Condit and the Ramseys in "Butters Very Own Episode", after both parties were proven by DNA evidence to be innocent. That Patsy Ramsey died shortly after the episode aired didn't help its case one bit.



** Recently, The Splat re-aired three episodes of the series during the weekend of October 8, 2016, as part of their celebration of the 25th anniversary of the Nicktoons brand that year.

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** Recently, The Splat re-aired three episodes of the series during the weekend of October 8, 2016, as part of their celebration of the 25th anniversary of the Nicktoons brand that year.
23rd Jul '17 9:30:51 PM Jeduthun
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* Screenwriter Buzz Dixon has [[https://buzzdixon.com/home/christianity/how-much-responsibility-do-i-bear written deprecatingly]] about his involvement with a SugarBowl show called ''The Little Clowns Of Happytown'', which was so hampered by MoralGuardians and ExecutiveMeddling that not only were they not allowed to have any comic violence, they weren't allowed to have any conflict at all. If they wanted a clown to get a pie in the face, for instance, it couldn't be thrown by another clown; they had to have it set on the ground and let a clown accidentally trip and fall onto it.
-->"Beyond any shadow of a doubt, the show was an abomination in the eyes of God and man. We shall speak of it no more."

22nd Jul '17 5:30:18 PM WileK209
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* Creator/WarnerBros also feels this way about some of the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters from the early years (1930-1935) and later years (1967-1969) of the original series and their cartoons, such as Buddy, Cool Cat and Merlin the Magic Mouse, often treating them as TheScrappy. They're almost never shown on TV anymore, typically don't appear in any newer Looney Tunes productions or products (except for a TakeThat at Buddy on ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' and [[RecurringExtra recurring Cool Cat cameos]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheSylvesterAndTweetyMysteries''), and are usually left out on home video compilations (exceptions being the Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 6 DVD set , which includes some Buddy cartoons; and the "Mouse Collection" DVD/Blu-Ray set, which includes the first "Merlin the Magic Mouse" cartoon.)
17th Jul '17 3:24:10 PM StFan
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** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. Most of them didn't receive wide theatrical re-releases, and most of their home video releases didn't receive large advertising campaigns. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Ride/DisneyThemeParks, most notably through the rides Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and Gran Fiesta Tour Starring the Three Caballeros. ''The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' [=DVDs=] are a common sight in stores around Halloween and they get a special packaging with a jack-o-lantern stencil or trick or treat bag included,[[note]]and these apparently sold well enough for Disney to select ''Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' as the first package film to release on Blu-ray twice, once by itself, and again bundled with ''Fun and Fancy Free'' and ''Disney/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] further demonstrating it as not always an example.

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** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. Most of them didn't receive wide theatrical re-releases, and most of their home video releases didn't receive large advertising campaigns. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Ride/DisneyThemeParks, most notably through the rides Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and Gran Fiesta Tour Starring the Three Caballeros. ''The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' [=DVDs=] are a common sight in stores around Halloween and they get a special packaging with a jack-o-lantern stencil or trick or treat bag included,[[note]]and these apparently sold well enough for Disney to select ''Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' as the first package film to release on Blu-ray twice, once by itself, and again bundled with ''Fun and Fancy Free'' and ''Disney/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] ''Film/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] further demonstrating it as not always an example.
15th Jul '17 7:32:41 PM CyberTiger88
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** Many of the higher-ups felt this way about "The Last Roundup". They [[ExecutiveMeddling folded to]] MoralGuardians by making a swift edit of Derpy Hooves into something less offensive, sparking flame wars all over the internet.

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** Many of the higher-ups felt this way about "The Last Roundup". They [[ExecutiveMeddling folded to]] MoralGuardians who called Derpy Hooves ableist, not helped by making a miscommunication that lead to the voice actress believing she's male which led to VocalDissonance, and made a swift edit of Derpy Hooves into something less offensive, sparking [[NiceJobBreakingItHero only to spark flame wars all over the internet.internet]]. It got to the point where they had to apologize to both sides of the fiasco.
13th Jul '17 9:29:21 AM DecafGrub47393
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* Disney Animated Canon examaples:
** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. Most of them didn't receive wide theatrical re-releases, and most of their home video releases didn't receive large advertising campaigns. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Ride/DisneyThemeParks, most notably through the rides Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and Gran Fiesta Tour Starring the Three Caballeros. ''The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' [=DVDs=] are a common sight in stores around Halloween and they get a special packaging with a jack-o-lantern stencil or trick or treat bag included,[[note]]and these apparently sold well enough for Disney to select ''Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' as the first package film to release on Blu-ray twice, once by itself, and again bundled with ''Fun and Fancy Free'' and ''Disney/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] further demonstrating it as not always an example.
** ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' is the biggest one, partly because it performed so horribly upon release that it nearly killed their animation department. And that's not even getting into the troubled production that saw it go through multiple edits to make it more palatable for audiences unfamiliar with [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain its source material]]. A VHS release of the film was not granted until 1998, a full ''thirteen years'' after the movie's original release, and this was only after considerable pressure from the film's growing fanbase.[[note]]''The Black Cauldron'' does predate Disney's decision to release their newest animated movies to video only a few months after their theatrical runs, but this does mark one of the longest gaps an '80s Disney Animated Canon entry experienced between its theatrical premiere, and its VHS debut. The other '80s DAC film that took this long, ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'', at least received a theatrical re-release during its gap.[[/note]] Even with this and two DVD releases (in 2000 and 2010), the film remains virtually unseen among the studio's vast array of merchandise. It doesn't help that it eventually became the Disney Animated Canon's last traditionally-animated movie to hit Blu-ray, aside from any 1940s post-Golden Age package film containing more than two segments.
** Disney doesn't seem to talk about ''Disney/HomeOnTheRange'' or the 2005 version ''Disney/ChickenLittle'' much anymore. However, the 1943 version of the latter is still talked about.



* Most of the TurnOfTheMillennium 2D films from Disney those released from ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'' to ''Disney/HomeOnTheRange'' are now considered old shames as well [[note]]with ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' being the arguable exception[[/note]], especially ''Disney/TreasurePlanet'' and ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' (they did not make Disney as much money as expected and merchandise for those films has become scarce).



* For many years, Disney was also deeply ashamed of ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'', a film that performed so horribly upon release that it nearly killed their animation department. And that's not even getting into the troubled production that saw it go through multiple edits to make it more palatable for audiences unfamiliar with [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain its source material]]. A VHS release of the film was not granted until 1998, a full ''thirteen years'' after the movie's original release, and this was only after considerable pressure from the film's growing fanbase.[[note]]''The Black Cauldron'' does predate Disney's decision to release their newest animated movies to video only a few months after their theatrical runs, but this does mark one of the longest gaps an '80s Disney Animated Canon entry experienced between its theatrical premiere, and its VHS debut. The other '80s DAC film that took this long, ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'', at least received a theatrical re-release during its gap.[[/note]] Even with this and two DVD releases (in 2000 and 2010), the film remains virtually unseen among the studio's vast array of merchandise. It doesn't help that it eventually became the Disney Animated Canon's last traditionally-animated movie to hit Blu-ray, aside from any 1940s post-Golden Age package film containing more than two segments.
4th Jul '17 11:24:29 AM gophergiggles
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** Creator/LaurenFaust felt this way about ''Feeling Pinkie Keen'' from how the episode's aesop was poorly delivered and received. What was meant to be a "sometimes you just have to believe" message was instead mistaken for a "pro-religion anti-science" moral, leading to it being slammed almost universally by fans online.
17th Jun '17 4:17:12 PM dsneybuf
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* For many years, Disney was also deeply ashamed of ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'', a film that performed so horribly upon release that it nearly killed their animation department. And that's not even getting into the troubled production that saw it go through multiple edits to make it more palatable for audiences unfamiliar with [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain its source material]]. A VHS release of the film was not granted until 1998, a full ''thirteen years'' after the movie's original release, and this was only after considerable pressure from the film's growing fanbase.[[note]]''The Black Cauldron'' does predate Disney's decision to release their newest animated movies to video only a few months after their theatrical runs, but this does mark one of the longest gaps an '80s Disney Animated Canon entry experienced between its theatrical premiere, and its VHS debut.[[/note]] Even with this and two DVD releases (in 2000 and 2010), the film remains virtually unseen among the studio's vast array of merchandise. It doesn't help that it eventually became the Disney Animated Canon's last traditionally-animated movie to hit Blu-ray, aside from any 1940s post-Golden Age package film containing more than two segments.

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* For many years, Disney was also deeply ashamed of ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'', a film that performed so horribly upon release that it nearly killed their animation department. And that's not even getting into the troubled production that saw it go through multiple edits to make it more palatable for audiences unfamiliar with [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain its source material]]. A VHS release of the film was not granted until 1998, a full ''thirteen years'' after the movie's original release, and this was only after considerable pressure from the film's growing fanbase.[[note]]''The Black Cauldron'' does predate Disney's decision to release their newest animated movies to video only a few months after their theatrical runs, but this does mark one of the longest gaps an '80s Disney Animated Canon entry experienced between its theatrical premiere, and its VHS debut. The other '80s DAC film that took this long, ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'', at least received a theatrical re-release during its gap.[[/note]] Even with this and two DVD releases (in 2000 and 2010), the film remains virtually unseen among the studio's vast array of merchandise. It doesn't help that it eventually became the Disney Animated Canon's last traditionally-animated movie to hit Blu-ray, aside from any 1940s post-Golden Age package film containing more than two segments.
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