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15th Dec '15 7:26:17 PM hyperdawg14
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* Early on, ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' was a webcomic. Stephan Pastis republished some of the early webcomic strips in a book, and spent most of the time pointing out how OutOfCharacter everyone was and how bad the art was (even for his minimalist stick-figure style).

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* Early on, ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' was a webcomic. Most of it was re-drawn/re-written and published to newspapers, but quite a few were also left out. Stephan Pastis republished some of the early those webcomic strips that were left out in a book, and spent most of the time pointing out how OutOfCharacter everyone was and how bad the art was (even for his minimalist stick-figure style).
14th Dec '15 11:02:13 PM SeptimusHeap
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** It should be noted that most of the strips from the web-only run was released to newspapers, which later got printed onto books. They were re-drawn and sometimes re-written.
14th Dec '15 9:27:18 PM hyperdawg14
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** It should be noted that most of the strips from the web-only run was released to newspapers, which later got printed onto books. They were re-drawn and sometimes re-written.
21st Nov '15 10:42:06 PM nombretomado
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* Berke Breathed, creator of ''ComicStrip/BloomCounty'', kept a great deal of the strip's first two years out of publication for years because he thought the strips were dated, unfunny, poorly drawn, derivative of ''{{Doonesbury}}'', or some combination thereof. Finally, in the late 2000s, he began releasing complete anthologies of the strip, complete with running commentary. Even in the commentary, he is highly critical of his own work, saying that he had no idea which direction the strip would take until around 1981, when Opus the penguin became a permanent cast member.

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* Berke Breathed, creator of ''ComicStrip/BloomCounty'', kept a great deal of the strip's first two years out of publication for years because he thought the strips were dated, unfunny, poorly drawn, derivative of ''{{Doonesbury}}'', ''ComicStrip/{{Doonesbury}}'', or some combination thereof. Finally, in the late 2000s, he began releasing complete anthologies of the strip, complete with running commentary. Even in the commentary, he is highly critical of his own work, saying that he had no idea which direction the strip would take until around 1981, when Opus the penguin became a permanent cast member.
21st Nov '15 8:31:57 AM nombretomado
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* Before ''{{Garfield}}'', Jim Davis did a short lived comic called ''Gnorm Gnat''. Davis thought it was funny. Not a lot of other people did. After one editor told Davis that "no one can relate to bugs", he pretty much gave up, and the final comic had Gnorm [[KilledOffForReal stepped on.]] The only times Davis brings the comic up now is when he's mocking it as "one of his biggest mistakes". This was lampshaded in one of the ''Garfield'' book collections. A gag comic at the end of one book was titled "Top 10 Comic Strips Jim Davis tried before Garfield" where Number 2 on the list was... Gnorm Gnat. The number one comic strip "tried" was Garfield being a living toaster.

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* Before ''{{Garfield}}'', ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'', Jim Davis did a short lived comic called ''Gnorm Gnat''. Davis thought it was funny. Not a lot of other people did. After one editor told Davis that "no one can relate to bugs", he pretty much gave up, and the final comic had Gnorm [[KilledOffForReal stepped on.]] The only times Davis brings the comic up now is when he's mocking it as "one of his biggest mistakes". This was lampshaded in one of the ''Garfield'' book collections. A gag comic at the end of one book was titled "Top 10 Comic Strips Jim Davis tried before Garfield" where Number 2 on the list was... Gnorm Gnat. The number one comic strip "tried" was Garfield being a living toaster.



* Berke Breathed, creator of ''BloomCounty'', kept a great deal of the strip's first two years out of publication for years because he thought the strips were dated, unfunny, poorly drawn, derivative of ''{{Doonesbury}}'', or some combination thereof. Finally, in the late 2000s, he began releasing complete anthologies of the strip, complete with running commentary. Even in the commentary, he is highly critical of his own work, saying that he had no idea which direction the strip would take until around 1981, when Opus the penguin became a permanent cast member.

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* Berke Breathed, creator of ''BloomCounty'', ''ComicStrip/BloomCounty'', kept a great deal of the strip's first two years out of publication for years because he thought the strips were dated, unfunny, poorly drawn, derivative of ''{{Doonesbury}}'', or some combination thereof. Finally, in the late 2000s, he began releasing complete anthologies of the strip, complete with running commentary. Even in the commentary, he is highly critical of his own work, saying that he had no idea which direction the strip would take until around 1981, when Opus the penguin became a permanent cast member.
30th Sep '15 10:54:58 PM louisXVI
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* Bill Watterson claims he regrets introducing Calvin's Uncle Max into ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes''. His reasons are that Max didn't have much of an identity, he didn't bring out anything new in Calvin, and the awkwardness of Max not being able to refer to Calvin's parents by their first names.

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* Bill Watterson claims he regrets introducing Calvin's Uncle Max into ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes''. His reasons are that Max didn't have much of an identity, he didn't bring out anything new in Calvin, and the awkwardness of Max not being able to refer to address Calvin's parents by their first names.names (which Watterson, as a matter of principle, didn't want them to have).
27th Sep '15 4:33:48 AM Morgenthaler
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** In a crossover with this, literature and animation, Berke does not like ''AWishForWingsThatWork'', an AnimatedAdaptation of his 1991 Christmas book of the same name (which in turn uses the Opus character from ''Bloom County'' and ''Outland'').
* Early on, ''PearlsBeforeSwine'' was a webcomic. Stephan Pastis republished some of the early webcomic strips in a book, and spent most of the time pointing out how OutOfCharacter everyone was and how bad the art was (even for his minimalist stick-figure style).

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** In a crossover with this, literature and animation, Berke does not like ''AWishForWingsThatWork'', ''WesternAnimation/AWishForWingsThatWork'', an AnimatedAdaptation of his 1991 Christmas book of the same name (which in turn uses the Opus character from ''Bloom County'' and ''Outland'').
* Early on, ''PearlsBeforeSwine'' ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' was a webcomic. Stephan Pastis republished some of the early webcomic strips in a book, and spent most of the time pointing out how OutOfCharacter everyone was and how bad the art was (even for his minimalist stick-figure style).
4th Aug '15 12:53:17 PM 32_Footsteps
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** Berke's first strip, printed in his college paper, was such a great source of shame to him that he allowed only about thirty strips from it to be printed in the ''Bloom County'' libraries--the vast majority of which were to show the origin point of gags reused in ''Bloom''. ''The Acadamia Waltz'' was collected in two volumes, and according to Breathed's bibliography on his site: "[[LostEpisode eBay is your only hope.]]"

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** Berke's first strip, printed in his college paper, was such a great source of shame to him that he allowed only about thirty strips from it to be printed in the ''Bloom County'' libraries--the vast majority of which were to show the origin point of gags reused in ''Bloom''. ''The Acadamia Waltz'' was collected in two volumes, and according to Breathed's bibliography on his site: "[[LostEpisode eBay is your only hope.]]"]]" When IDW (who published the other collections of Breathed's work) finally got the rights to republish ''The Acadamia Waltz'', the cover consisted of Opus opening a box labeled "Don't '''EVER''' [[SymbolSwearing @#?!*]] open this -BB", and the collection itself is titled ''Academia Waltz and Other Profound Transgressions''.
2nd May '15 7:10:14 PM nombretomado
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* Bill Watterson claims he regrets introducing Calvin's Uncle Max into ''CalvinAndHobbes''. His reasons are that Max didn't have much of an identity, he didn't bring out anything new in Calvin, and the awkwardness of Max not being able to refer to Calvin's parents by their first names.

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* Bill Watterson claims he regrets introducing Calvin's Uncle Max into ''CalvinAndHobbes''.''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes''. His reasons are that Max didn't have much of an identity, he didn't bring out anything new in Calvin, and the awkwardness of Max not being able to refer to Calvin's parents by their first names.
18th Dec '13 3:02:05 AM LahmacunKebab
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* Before ''{{Garfield}}'', Jim Davis did a short lived comic called ''Gnorm Gnat''. Davis thought it was funny. Not a lot of other people did. After one editor told Davis that "no one can relate to bugs", he pretty much gave up, and the final comic had Gnorm [[KilledOffForReal stepped on.]] The only times Davis brings the comic up now is when he's mocking it as "one of his biggest mistakes". This was lampshaded in one of the ''Garfield'' book collections. A gag comic at the end of one book was titled "Top 10 Comic Strips Jim Davis tried before Garfield" where Number 2 on the list was...Gnorm Gnat. The number one comic strip "tried" was Garfield being a living toaster.

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* Before ''{{Garfield}}'', Jim Davis did a short lived comic called ''Gnorm Gnat''. Davis thought it was funny. Not a lot of other people did. After one editor told Davis that "no one can relate to bugs", he pretty much gave up, and the final comic had Gnorm [[KilledOffForReal stepped on.]] The only times Davis brings the comic up now is when he's mocking it as "one of his biggest mistakes". This was lampshaded in one of the ''Garfield'' book collections. A gag comic at the end of one book was titled "Top 10 Comic Strips Jim Davis tried before Garfield" where Number 2 on the list was... Gnorm Gnat. The number one comic strip "tried" was Garfield being a living toaster.
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