History OldShame / Music

21st Jun '16 6:59:07 PM gewunomox
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* L.A. punk band {{Music/X}} was in a bad place by 1985. Songwriters/leaders John Doe and Exene Cervenka were divorced. Billy Zoom wanted to leave. Parting company with longtime producer [[TheDoors Ray Manzarek]], they teamed up with Michael Wagener, who was known for working with...German heavy metal bands. The resulting record, ''Ain't Love Grand'', with its slick, radio-friendly production, is not one that the band is proud of. Since then, they've mostly ignored ''Ain't Love Grand'' in live shows, except for "Burning House of Love." Exene Cervenka has since admitted, "We shouldn't have made a record that year."

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* L.A. punk band {{Music/X}} was in a bad place by 1985. Songwriters/leaders John Doe and Exene Cervenka were divorced. Billy Zoom wanted to leave. Parting company with longtime producer [[TheDoors [[Music/TheDoors Ray Manzarek]], they teamed up with Michael Wagener, who was known for working with...German heavy metal bands. The resulting record, ''Ain't Love Grand'', with its slick, radio-friendly production, is not one that the band is proud of. Since then, they've mostly ignored ''Ain't Love Grand'' in live shows, except for "Burning House of Love." Exene Cervenka has since admitted, "We shouldn't have made a record that year."
19th Jun '16 10:25:58 PM gewunomox
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* ''Cold Lake'', the 1988 album from {{Thrash|Metal}}/GothMetal innovators CelticFrost, was a bizarre foray into [[TheEighties Eighties]] HairMetal that the band has refused to re-issue.

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* ''Cold Lake'', the 1988 album from {{Thrash|Metal}}/GothMetal innovators CelticFrost, Music/CelticFrost, was a bizarre foray into [[TheEighties Eighties]] HairMetal that the band has refused to re-issue.
14th Jun '16 2:37:12 PM Twentington
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* Jimmy Olander, lead guitarist of Diamond Rio, said that he is ashamed of the band's 1993 hit "This Romeo Ain't Got Julie Yet", which he wrote, due to its terrible {{pun}} of a title; in the band's autobiography, he says that ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime.
7th Jun '16 8:26:13 AM Doug86
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* American songwriter Music/IrvingBerlin, known for classics such as "God Bless America," wrote an antiwar song called "Stay Down Here Where You Belong." However, a few years later, the United States entered what was then known as [[WorldWarOne "The Great War"]] and Berlin wrote his more well-known, patriotic songs. As a result, Berlin was so openly ashamed of his earlier song that Groucho Marx repeatedly antagonized Berlin by performing "Stay Down Here Where You Belong" in his presence. Music/TinyTim also recorded it on his 1968 debut album.

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* American songwriter Music/IrvingBerlin, known for classics such as "God Bless America," wrote an antiwar song called "Stay Down Here Where You Belong." However, a few years later, the United States entered what was then known as [[WorldWarOne [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI "The Great War"]] and Berlin wrote his more well-known, patriotic songs. As a result, Berlin was so openly ashamed of his earlier song that Groucho Marx repeatedly antagonized Berlin by performing "Stay Down Here Where You Belong" in his presence. Music/TinyTim also recorded it on his 1968 debut album.
6th Jun '16 11:58:22 PM jormis29
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* When asked about her role in the 2003 musical ''From Justin to Kelly'' (widely considered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst#2000s one of the worst films of the 2000s]]), Music/KellyClarkson famously responded, "[[TwoWordsAddedEmphasis Two words: Contractually obligated!]]" Clarkson had zero acting or dancing experience prior to the film, but her contract with ''American Idol'' stipulated that she would have to star in a musical if she won the contest. She recognized the movie as the shallow cash-in attempt that it was, and now prefers to forget that she was ever in it (and she's never really pursued acting since, with all her subsequent appearances being cameos as herself - with the exceptions of her appearances on ''Series/AmericanDreams'' as Brenda Lee and her guest role on ''Series/{{Reba}}''. [[TheDanza As a young woman called Kelly]]).

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* When asked about her role in the 2003 musical ''From Justin to Kelly'' ''Film/FromJustinToKelly'' (widely considered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst#2000s one of the worst films of the 2000s]]), Music/KellyClarkson famously responded, "[[TwoWordsAddedEmphasis Two words: Contractually obligated!]]" Clarkson had zero acting or dancing experience prior to the film, but her contract with ''American Idol'' stipulated that she would have to star in a musical if she won the contest. She recognized the movie as the shallow cash-in attempt that it was, and now prefers to forget that she was ever in it (and she's never really pursued acting since, with all her subsequent appearances being cameos as herself - with the exceptions of her appearances on ''Series/AmericanDreams'' as Brenda Lee and her guest role on ''Series/{{Reba}}''. [[TheDanza As a young woman called Kelly]]).
3rd May '16 2:07:05 PM AdelePotter
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* Creator/BoBurnham has admitted his earlier stuff in general is inferior to his later work, mainly due to relying mostly on shock value rather than actual satire or making a point. He specifically says he doesn't really like "The Perfect Woman" (a song about how Helen Keller would be, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin the perfect woman]]), mainly because he's concerned it might be used to make fun of a real blind and/or deaf girl.
26th Apr '16 2:40:30 AM aye_amber
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* The French composer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Duruflé Maurice Duruflé]] was such a perfectionist that he only managed to publish 14 works in a career spanning 60 years, and still felt enough OldShame about the first one that he ''withdrew it from publication''.

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* The French composer [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Duruflé org/wiki/Maurice_Durufl%C3%A9 Maurice Duruflé]] was such a perfectionist that he only managed to publish 14 works in a career spanning 60 years, and still felt enough OldShame about the first one that he ''withdrew it from publication''.
26th Apr '16 2:39:06 AM aye_amber
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* Jason Martin of Music/{{Starflyer 59}} has said that he can't stand to listen to his first album, ''Silver'', any more. Fans of the band tend to disagree with him--fortunately for them, Jason doesn't hate ''Silver'' enough to do anything to prevent it from being reissued (twice!). On the other hand, there's the pre-''Silver'', six-song demo tape that convinced Tooth & Nail Records to sign Sf59. Some die-hard fans have occasionally asked Jason about releasing ''that'', and he has answered that the demos were terrible and should never see the light of day.

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* Jason Martin of Music/{{Starflyer 59}} Music/Starflyer59 has said that he can't stand to listen to his first album, ''Silver'', any more. Fans of the band tend to disagree with him--fortunately for them, Jason doesn't hate ''Silver'' enough to do anything to prevent it from being reissued (twice!). On the other hand, there's the pre-''Silver'', six-song demo tape that convinced Tooth & Nail Records to sign Sf59. ''Starflyer 59.'' Some die-hard fans have occasionally asked Jason about releasing ''that'', and he has answered that the demos were terrible and should never see the light of day.
26th Apr '16 2:38:20 AM aye_amber
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* Before the band Music/{{Hurt}} released their first album "Vol. 1," they released two other albums prior to that: their self-titled album and "The Consummation". The latter was eventually released in 2008 under the name "The Re-Consummation", while the former will most likely never see the light of day again because as J. Loren (the band's singer) put it, it was "poorly done and actually diminishes from the intentions behind the songs." Some of the songs from said album were released between Vol. 1 and Vol. II, however, they've confirmed that the songs from both albums are drastically different from the early songs (an [[http://hurt.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?showtopic=2674&st=0 interview]] with the singer states that the self titled album's ''Summers Lost and Abuse of SID'' is different from Vol. II versions).

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* Before the band Music/{{Hurt}} released their first album "Vol. 1," they released two other albums prior to that: their self-titled album and "The Consummation". The latter was eventually released in 2008 under the name "The Re-Consummation", while the former will most likely never see the light of day again because as J. Loren (the band's singer) put it, it was "poorly done and actually diminishes from the intentions behind the songs." Some of the songs from said album were released between Vol. 1 and Vol. II, however, they've confirmed that the songs from both albums are drastically different from the early songs (an [[http://hurt.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?showtopic=2674&st=0 interview]] interview with the singer states that the self titled album's ''Summers Lost and Abuse of SID'' is different from Vol. II versions).
26th Apr '16 2:35:24 AM aye_amber
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* Industrial artist Al Jourgensen -- frontman of Music/{{Ministry}}, and member of Revolting Cocks (aka [=RevCo=]) and Lard -- has been known to [[BerserkButton physically destroy]] any copies of Ministry's ''With Sympathy'' and ''Twitch'' albums that he encounters at clubs or signings. Both albums are considered by fans and critics to be decent, if not exceptional, synthpop/darkwave albums (much closer to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Front242 than to his later work); and ''Twitch'' in particular has a strong following. However, he's developed a substantial hatred for them; particularly ''With Sympathy'', which he refers to as "an abortion", and claims it was the result of [[ExecutiveMeddling the record label forcing him to go for a more commercial synth-pop sound]].

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* Industrial artist Al Jourgensen -- frontman of Music/{{Ministry}}, and member of Revolting Cocks (aka [=RevCo=]) and Lard -- has been known to [[BerserkButton physically destroy]] any copies of Ministry's ''With Sympathy'' and ''Twitch'' albums that he encounters at clubs or signings. Both albums are considered by fans and critics to be decent, if not exceptional, synthpop/darkwave albums (much closer to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Front242 Music/Front242 than to his later work); and ''Twitch'' in particular has a strong following. However, he's developed a substantial hatred for them; particularly ''With Sympathy'', which he refers to as "an abortion", and claims it was the result of [[ExecutiveMeddling the record label forcing him to go for a more commercial synth-pop sound]].
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