History OffModel / AnimeAndManga

24th Sep '17 11:09:03 AM nombretomado
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** Again, like ''Anime/SonicX'' and ''Hamtaro'', this is because of bad outsourcing, as most of ''Bakugan'' is done in Korea and later, Japanese studios like BeeTrain and Creator/MookDLE (though for whatever reason, the outsourced studios are not credited in the English dub. That seems to be a thing with most TV anime dubs as [=OVA=]s and anime movies when dubbed tend to list the full staff).

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** Again, like ''Anime/SonicX'' and ''Hamtaro'', this is because of bad outsourcing, as most of ''Bakugan'' is done in Korea and later, Japanese studios like BeeTrain Creator/BeeTrain and Creator/MookDLE (though for whatever reason, the outsourced studios are not credited in the English dub. That seems to be a thing with most TV anime dubs as [=OVA=]s and anime movies when dubbed tend to list the full staff).
16th Sep '17 8:21:11 AM MagiMecha
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** There's one scene where Vegeta inexplicably loses his shirt between scenes. This is lampshaded in ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' with Krillin asking him why he took off his shirt?
16th Sep '17 8:19:31 AM MagiMecha
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** Not as noticeable, but May's breast size kept changing an awful lot, too. [[{{Fanservice}} Maybe she uses padding?]] When she reappeared in the ''Diamond and Pearl'' arc, she has a consistent yet smaller chest size, making her more in line with her video game counterpart.
** In Hoenn, the animators also never seemed to be able to decide on the length of May's hair.

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** Not as noticeable, but May's breast size kept changing an awful lot, too. [[{{Fanservice}} Maybe she uses padding?]] When she reappeared in the ''Diamond and Pearl'' arc, she has a consistent yet smaller chest size, making her more in line with her video game counterpart.
** In Hoenn,
counterpart. As well, the animators also never seemed to be able to decide on the length of May's hair.hair.
*** May wasn't the only companion with chest size issues as her predecessor Misty had that problem at times, It's highly possible that the animators were using the initial character designs from the games, which made the girls a little more older than the ten years old the anime keeps claiming. This problem disappears with Dawn onward.
9th Sep '17 6:15:42 PM nombretomado
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** The {{QUALITY}} animation present in the show is much more noticeable on it's recent BluRay, making all the animation flaws ''very'' easy to see than in any other home video release. Just check out these screenshots, straight from the BD edition: [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/i.bmp]],[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/j.bmp]], [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/k.bmp]], & [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/d.bmp]]. Of course, this is very much a double-edged sword, as the cases of [[AwesomeArt great-looking]] animation in the show ([[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/e.bmp]], [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/c.bmp]], [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen0008.bmp]], and [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/w.bmp]]) are ([[CaptainObvious obviously]]) serviced quite well with the BD release.

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** The {{QUALITY}} animation present in the show is much more noticeable on it's its recent BluRay, UsefulNotes/BluRay, making all the animation flaws ''very'' easy to see than in any other home video release. Just check out these screenshots, straight from the BD edition: [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/i.bmp]],[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/j.bmp]], [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/k.bmp]], & [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/d.bmp]]. Of course, this is very much a double-edged sword, as the cases of [[AwesomeArt great-looking]] animation in the show ([[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/e.bmp]], [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/c.bmp]], [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen0008.bmp]], and [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/w.bmp]]) are ([[CaptainObvious obviously]]) serviced quite well with the BD release.
9th Sep '17 5:27:21 PM Pichu-kun
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** Studio Pierrot has a tendency to make Sakura's hair off-model compared to the manga. In ''Shippuden'' often it's too short but sometimes it's too long.

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** Studio Pierrot has a tendency to make Sakura's hair off-model compared to the manga. In ''Shippuden'' often it's too short but sometimes it's too long. This is noticeable in the final episodes. Compare Sakura in the manga and the anime. You'll find her hair is too short in the episode based on the second-to-last chapter.



* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' does this a great deal, resulting in substantial reworking for the DVD. In one case, though the off model animation actually changed the meaning of a scene entirely: the White Devil training incident, where Nanoha {{Barehanded Blade Block}}s two students and, after calmly telling one student to "cool her head", blasts her out of the sky. Judging from the DVD version, she was supposed to have done that with a concerned yet stern look reminiscent of a disappointed parent, but on the TV version she has a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X84Ug4xiLO4 scrunched-up look]] reminiscent of someone in ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' going insane.

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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'':
** ''Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha''
does this a great deal, resulting in substantial reworking for the DVD. In one case, though the off model animation actually changed the meaning of a scene entirely: the White Devil training incident, where Nanoha {{Barehanded Blade Block}}s two students and, after calmly telling one student to "cool her head", blasts her out of the sky. Judging from the DVD version, she was supposed to have done that with a concerned yet stern look reminiscent of a disappointed parent, but on the TV version she has a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X84Ug4xiLO4 scrunched-up look]] reminiscent of someone in ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' going insane. Whether this change was good or not is [[BrokenBase still talked about in the fanbase]]. Some prefer the original, more out-of-character look.



* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' has gotten rather obvious at this from the start as a majority of the drawn creatures don't look exactly like the source, such as the color of their fur or their height differences (Ash's Shiny Noctowl and all of them in general are midgets compared to the real thing). Then it does slip up even more with the ''Diamond & Pearl'' saga. Every once in a while an episode will pop up with noticeably poorer animation. This is very evident in the faces of Ash, Brock and Dawn, leading to the term "eyegarbage animation" used on one Pokémon-related forum. Episode examples include "Dawn of a New Era", "Wild in the Streets", and "Malice in Wonderland".

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
** The anime
has gotten rather obvious at this from the start as a majority of the drawn creatures don't look exactly like the source, such as the color of their fur or their height differences (Ash's Shiny Noctowl and all of them in general are midgets compared to the real thing). Then it does slip up even more with the ''Diamond & Pearl'' saga. Every once in a while an episode will pop up with noticeably poorer animation. This is very evident in the faces of Ash, Brock and Dawn, leading to the term "eyegarbage animation" used on one Pokémon-related forum. Episode examples include "Dawn of a New Era", "Wild in the Streets", and "Malice in Wonderland".



*** In Hoenn, the animators also never seemed to be able to decide on the length of her hair.
*** In the episode "Take this House and Shuppet!" a flashback is seen, intended to show that May really does care about Max. At the end of the flashback, for a full five seconds, May's eyes inexplicably turn green. It's especially odd since it's [[http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d1/AG081_error.png very different]] from her actual color; far more intense.
** Similar, but the animators tend to switch between Misty's eyes being green or blue. The games and most manga have her with blue eyes, though.

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*** ** In Hoenn, the animators also never seemed to be able to decide on the length of her May's hair.
*** ** In the episode "Take this House and Shuppet!" a flashback is seen, intended to show that May really does care about Max. At the end of the flashback, for a full five seconds, May's eyes inexplicably turn green. It's especially odd since it's [[http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d1/AG081_error.png very different]] from her actual color; far more intense.
** Similar, but the The animators tend to switch between Misty's eyes being green green, blue, or blue.a mix of the two. The games and most manga have her with blue eyes, though.



** Best Wishes! episode 133 can't seem to make up its mind about how Beheeyem's finger lights should be positioned.
** The XY arc continues the consistent animation quality seen in the prior ''Best Wishes!'', but slips up with coloring errors from time to time. When Serena is in her racing gear, for example, she ties her ponytail with a large pink ribbon which has an odd tendency to become the same color as her hair for single frames of animation.

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** Best Wishes! ''Best Wishes!'' episode 133 can't seem to make up its mind about how Beheeyem's finger lights should be positioned.
** The XY ''XY'' arc continues the consistent animation quality seen in the prior ''Best Wishes!'', but slips up with coloring errors from time to time. When Serena is in her racing gear, for example, she ties her ponytail with a large pink ribbon which has an odd tendency to become the same color as her hair for single frames of animation.



** In the XY episode, "Heroes - Friends and Faux Alike!", A scene with Clemont meeting a disguised Team Rocket has James standing as if leaning backwards on a [[http://imgur.com/VXyw5ao completely different plane.]]

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** In the XY ''XY'' episode, "Heroes - Friends and Faux Alike!", A scene with Clemont meeting a disguised Team Rocket has James standing as if leaning backwards on a [[http://imgur.com/VXyw5ao completely different plane.]]



** The Sun & Moon seasons make heavy use of smear frames, particularly on Ash, in keeping with the DenserAndWackier tone. This has a tendency to look ''really'' odd if you pause at just the right moments.

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** The Sun ''Sun & Moon Moon'' seasons make heavy use of smear frames, particularly on Ash, in keeping with the DenserAndWackier tone. This has a tendency to look ''really'' odd if you pause at just the right moments.moments.
** Not all Pokeamon are on-model to their game designs. The most common issue is size. For example, Charizard are ''way'' bigger in the anime than in the games. Other issues include Pikachu's head shape (its completely different from the games head shape).



* Happens occasionally in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', both [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist the 2003 anime adaptation]] and ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Brotherhood]]''. Though the shows have excellent art and fluid animation the majority of the time, there are a couple episodes (47 of ''Brotherhood'', for example) where it's obvious they didn't have their best directors on them.

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* Happens occasionally in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', ''Franchise/FullmetalAlchemist'', both [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist the 2003 anime adaptation]] and ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Brotherhood]]''. Though the shows have excellent art and fluid animation the majority of the time, there are a couple episodes (47 of ''Brotherhood'', for example) where it's obvious they didn't have their best directors on them.



** The anime often suffers from off-model. For one, the characters' heads always seem too large in comparison to their bodies. The second season fixes a lot of the mistakes of the first season, but towards the end of the season you can clearly see mistakes (though, in the final episode there aren't many). The third season is on-model, but it ''is'' just five {{OVA}}s. However, there are some errors in the [=OVAs=]. The most noticeable is that Mion is missing her tattoo in the first one.

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** The anime often suffers from off-model. For one, the characters' heads always seem too large in comparison to their bodies. The second season fixes a lot of the mistakes of the first season, but towards the end of the season you can clearly see mistakes (though, in the final episode there aren't many). The third season is on-model, but it ''is'' just five {{OVA}}s. However, there are some errors in the [=OVAs=]. The most noticeable is that Mion is missing not having her yakuza tattoo in on her back, however, is not a case of off-model, despite many fans assuming so. According to a [=TIP=] from the first one.original visual novels, Mion uses special water-proof makeup for when she wears swimsuits.



** Likewise, the [=PS2=] release of the VN features a pretty blatant error at the end of Meakashi-Hen, where the CG for [[spoiler:Shion's dead corpse]] is drawn wearing the wrong set of clothes.
11th Aug '17 12:53:40 PM JJSponge120
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** In this particular [[https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/e/eb/DP158_error.png shot]] from "Regaining the Home Advantage", the characters' feet seem to overlap with the sidewalk. Also, a SECOND Pikachu shows up out of nowhere.



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1st Jul '17 9:08:30 AM SpinAttaxx
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** When Future Trunks returns to his time and [[CurbStompBattle curbstomps]] the androids, Android 18's jacket is consistently drawn without the Red Ribbon Army logo on the back.
20th Jun '17 1:27:06 PM storymasterb
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** A particularly notorious shot in Episode 111 makes it look as though [[https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/6/61/YGO5D111error.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100528151000 Jack has three arms]] while shaking Bommer's hand. As with the scene from Episode 41, this was fixed for the DVD release.
14th Jun '17 12:03:47 PM Piterpicher
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* The ''Main/FatalFury'' movies have an odd version of this. In the first two movies, ''Legend of the Hungry Wolf'' and ''The New Battle'', it's the climactic ''final'' battle that has the deeply off-model artwork. The animation seems to be no worse than usual (maybe even better), but the artwork itself looks very different. ''Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture'' averts this. There's still an off-model fight scene, but it's one of the earlier ones in the movie, and perhaps the least important, basically just featuring Terry Bogard beating down some random mooks.

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* The ''Main/FatalFury'' ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' movies have an odd version of this. In the first two movies, ''Legend of the Hungry Wolf'' and ''The New Battle'', it's the climactic ''final'' battle that has the deeply off-model artwork. The animation seems to be no worse than usual (maybe even better), but the artwork itself looks very different. ''Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture'' averts this. There's still an off-model fight scene, but it's one of the earlier ones in the movie, and perhaps the least important, basically just featuring Terry Bogard beating down some random mooks.
8th Jun '17 8:46:02 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* The first season of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' had uneven animation quality during a couple of episodes, which wasn't an issue for the majority of viewers, but throughout ''R2'' there were many instances of the same. Most usually went by too fast or were too small to notice unless you looked hard enough (as in hitting pause to look at Cornelia's face right when she walks into a room), but OffModel character designs were definitely a common problem. Thankfully, the DVD release had many of the affected scenes redrawn or reanimated and thus the overall quality was improved. There are so many possible comparisons between the TV and DVD versions throughout the second season that it's not even funny, but Episode 20 of ''R2'' was probably the worst offender.



* The ''Manga/MagicKnightRayearth'' anime generally does this in fight scenes (such as Umi and Tarta's duel in Season 2), but the whole of Episode 17 is a blatant example. The girls' facial features and shape don't at all match the way they were drawn in previous episodes (which one can check by the flashbacks that happen in the episode itself).

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* This seems to be a running theme with shows based off of works by CLAMP:
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The ''Manga/MagicKnightRayearth'' anime generally does this in fight scenes (such as Umi and Tarta's duel in Season 2), but the whole of Episode 17 is a blatant example. The girls' facial features and shape don't at all match the way they were drawn in previous episodes (which one can check by the flashbacks that happen in the episode itself).itself).
** Despite being animated by Production IG, ''Manga/{{xxxHolic}}'' was [[http://s29.photobucket.com/user/quatrethefox/media/screenshotsforbh/xxxholic0606.jpg.html plagued by]] [[http://ib4.huluim.com/video/50034879?region=US&size=600x400 quality]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbt5eeW1ig1qzs7oqo1_1280.jpg control]] [[https://i0.wp.com/i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/NiyarthII/Epic%20Fail/epic-fail-anime-030.jpg issues]] from the get-go, and is more likely to be off-model then on-model in any given moment. Yes, the specific drawing style of this series is harder to animate since it seems to be inspired by ukiyo-e and other traditional Japanese painting styles, but still.
** One of the complains about the Manga/{{X 1999}} TV series is the massive quantity of off model animation, which sometimes [[{{Narm}} ends up ruining tense or dramatic scenes]]. Made worse because the director was none other than Creator/YoshiakiKawajiri, known for his ''extremely'' careful visual work.
** The first season of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' (where CLAMP handled the character designs) had uneven animation quality during a couple of episodes, which wasn't an issue for the majority of viewers, but throughout ''R2'' there were many instances of the same. Most usually went by too fast or were too small to notice unless the viewers looked hard enough (as in hitting pause to look at Cornelia's face right when she walks into a room), but OffModel character designs were definitely a common problem. Thankfully, the DVD release had many of the affected scenes redrawn or reanimated and thus the overall quality was improved. There are so many possible comparisons between the TV and DVD versions throughout the second season that it's not even funny, but Episode 20 of ''R2'' was probably the worst offender.



* One of the complains about the Manga/{{X 1999}} TV series is the massive quantity of off model animation, which sometimes [[{{Narm}} ends up ruining tense or dramatic scenes]]. Made worse because the director was none other than Creator/YoshiakiKawajiri, known for his ''extremely'' careful visual work.
** This seems to be a running theme with shows based off of works by CLAMP. Despite being animated by Production IG, ''Manga/{{xxxHolic}}'' was [[http://s29.photobucket.com/user/quatrethefox/media/screenshotsforbh/xxxholic0606.jpg.html plagued by]] [[http://ib4.huluim.com/video/50034879?region=US&size=600x400 quality]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbt5eeW1ig1qzs7oqo1_1280.jpg control]] [[https://i0.wp.com/i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/NiyarthII/Epic%20Fail/epic-fail-anime-030.jpg issues]] from the get-go, and is more likely to be off-model then on-model in any given moment.
* Similarly, the ''Manga/VampirePrincessMiyu'' TV series was afflicted with this trope to rather egregious degree. A good example is the HORRIBLY animated episode dedicated to [[BrokenBird Yui]] [[BadassNormal Lee]], where her BoobsOfSteel looked almost deattached from her body at times...

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* One of the complains about the Manga/{{X 1999}} TV series is the massive quantity of off model animation, which sometimes [[{{Narm}} ends up ruining tense or dramatic scenes]]. Made worse because the director was none other than Creator/YoshiakiKawajiri, known for his ''extremely'' careful visual work.
** This seems to be a running theme with shows based off of works by CLAMP. Despite being animated by Production IG, ''Manga/{{xxxHolic}}'' was [[http://s29.photobucket.com/user/quatrethefox/media/screenshotsforbh/xxxholic0606.jpg.html plagued by]] [[http://ib4.huluim.com/video/50034879?region=US&size=600x400 quality]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbt5eeW1ig1qzs7oqo1_1280.jpg control]] [[https://i0.wp.com/i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/NiyarthII/Epic%20Fail/epic-fail-anime-030.jpg issues]] from the get-go, and is more likely to be off-model then on-model in any given moment.
* Similarly, the
The ''Manga/VampirePrincessMiyu'' TV series was afflicted with this trope to rather egregious degree. A good example is the HORRIBLY animated episode dedicated to [[BrokenBird Yui]] [[BadassNormal Lee]], where her BoobsOfSteel looked almost deattached from her body at times...
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