History ObfuscatingStupidity / LiveActionTV

22nd May '18 8:48:11 PM SparkyYoungUpstart
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* Jay's client in the pilot of ''Series/ForThePeople'' claims to believe his cover story about being part of a shadowy government agency. Jay, ever the idealist, buys it until Kate shows him footage of the man bragging about pulling one over him.
12th Apr '18 10:10:22 AM StarTropes
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* In ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'''s "In a Mirror Darkly", Mirror Hoshi pulls it on both the characters and the audience. She seems like nothing more than a willing consort for whoever her captain is at the moment, then at the end she [[spoiler:poisons Mirror Archer and declares herself Empress of the Terrans.]]
* The Pakleds in the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode ''Samaritan Snare'' are to all indications genuinely some of the most stupid aliens featured in ''Star Trek'', but they ''are'' capable of playing it up even more in some areas to appear more harmless than they actually are and manipulate others into doing what they want.
* Doctor Bashir from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' missed a question during his final exams (specifically, he confused a preganglionic fiber for a postganglionic nerve) and thus failed to achieve valedictorian status. It's later hinted that he deliberately blew that question, and then confirmed that he did so to hide the fact that [[spoiler:he was given [[NoTranshumanismAllowed illegal genetic enhancements]]]].

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'':
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In ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'''s "In a Mirror Darkly", Mirror Hoshi pulls it on both the characters and the audience. She seems like nothing more than a willing consort for whoever her captain is at the moment, then at the end she [[spoiler:poisons Mirror Archer and declares herself Empress of the Terrans.]]
* ** The Pakleds in the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode ''Samaritan Snare'' are to all indications genuinely some of the most stupid aliens featured in ''Star Trek'', but they ''are'' capable of playing it up even more in some areas to appear more harmless than they actually are and manipulate others into doing what they want.
* ** Doctor Bashir from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' missed a question during his final exams (specifically, he confused a preganglionic fiber for a postganglionic nerve) and thus failed to achieve valedictorian status. It's later hinted that he deliberately blew that question, and then confirmed that he did so to hide the fact that [[spoiler:he was given [[NoTranshumanismAllowed illegal genetic enhancements]]]].enhancements]]]].
** Despite all the CharacterDevelopment that the Doctor from ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' goes through, he sometimes reverts to his one-dimensional Season 1 persona whenever he needs to look like any other ordinary EMH.
1st Apr '18 5:01:00 AM DaibhidC
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* Del Boy from ''Series/OnlyFoolsAndHorses'' sometimes does this when he wants to [[GladYouThoughOfIt manipulate someone else into having an idea that he's had, and thinking it was their idea in the first place]]. For example, in one of the later episodes of the show (after the Trotters have become multi-millionaires and lost it all), Del has been declared bankrupt and banned from being the manager of Trotters Independent Traders. He realizes that someone else - namely, Rodney - could manage Trotters Independent Traders and hire him to work for them. Instead of just asking Rodney if he'll be the new manager, Del proceeds to manipulate Rodney into coming up with the idea of managing the company himself. He even pretends to not understand what Rodney is suggesting and that he needs it explaining to him again, presumably to strengthen the illusion that it was Rodney's idea.

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* Del Boy from ''Series/OnlyFoolsAndHorses'' sometimes does this when he wants to [[GladYouThoughOfIt [[GladYouThoughtOfIt manipulate someone else into having an idea that he's had, and thinking it was their idea in the first place]]. For example, in one of the later episodes of the show (after the Trotters have become multi-millionaires and lost it all), Del has been declared bankrupt and banned from being the manager of Trotters Independent Traders. He realizes that someone else - namely, Rodney - could manage Trotters Independent Traders and hire him to work for them. Instead of just asking Rodney if he'll be the new manager, Del proceeds to manipulate Rodney into coming up with the idea of managing the company himself. He even pretends to not understand what Rodney is suggesting and that he needs it explaining to him again, presumably to strengthen the illusion that it was Rodney's idea.
1st Apr '18 4:41:34 AM DaibhidC
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** The Doctor, particularly in his second and fourth incarnations, often used to play the fool to lull his enemies into a false sense of security ("Would you care for a jelly baby?"). Later on, in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]], whilst pretending to be still human his blundering nervousness lulls the Family into such a state of arrogant superiority that they don't notice that the buttons he's "accidentally" pushing will destroy their ship until it's much, much too late. This was occasionally subverted, as well, with the enemies realising that this was what he was doing -- most notably in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath "City of Death"]], in which Count Scarlioni's [[GenreSavvy understanding of the Doctor]] prevents him from being deceived.

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** The Doctor, particularly in his second and fourth incarnations, often used to play the fool to lull his enemies into a false sense of security ("Would you care for a jelly baby?"). (He also, often, played the fool because he simply felt like it, believing "there's no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes".) Later on, in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]], whilst pretending to be still human his blundering nervousness lulls the Family into such a state of arrogant superiority that they don't notice that the buttons he's "accidentally" pushing will destroy their ship until it's much, much too late. This was occasionally subverted, as well, with the enemies realising that this was what he was doing -- most notably in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath "City of Death"]], in which Count Scarlioni's [[GenreSavvy understanding of the Doctor]] prevents him from being deceived.



** Nardole seems to have picked up on this from the Doctor.
-->'''Bill:''' Nardole... Are you secretly a badass?

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** Nardole seems to have picked up on this from the Doctor.
-->'''Bill:'''
Doctor. His PluckyComicRelief personality seems to genuinely be who he is ... but it isn't ''all'' he is.
--->'''Bill:'''
Nardole... Are you secretly a badass?badass?
--->'''Nardole''': Nothing secret about it, baby-doll.



* Del Boy from ''Series/OnlyFoolsAndHorses'' sometimes does this when he wants to manipulate someone else into having an idea that he's had, and thinking it was their idea in the first place. For example, in one of the later episodes of the show (after the Trotters have become multi-millionaires and lost it all), Del has been declared bankrupt and banned from being the manager of Trotters Independent Traders. He realizes that someone else - namely, Rodney - could manage Trotters Independent Traders and hire him to work for them. Instead of just asking Rodney if he'll be the new manager, Del proceeds to manipulate Rodney into coming up with the idea of managing the company himself. He even pretends to not understand what Rodney is suggesting and that he needs it explaining to him again, presumably to strengthen the illusion that it was Rodney's idea.

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* Del Boy from ''Series/OnlyFoolsAndHorses'' sometimes does this when he wants to [[GladYouThoughOfIt manipulate someone else into having an idea that he's had, and thinking it was their idea in the first place.place]]. For example, in one of the later episodes of the show (after the Trotters have become multi-millionaires and lost it all), Del has been declared bankrupt and banned from being the manager of Trotters Independent Traders. He realizes that someone else - namely, Rodney - could manage Trotters Independent Traders and hire him to work for them. Instead of just asking Rodney if he'll be the new manager, Del proceeds to manipulate Rodney into coming up with the idea of managing the company himself. He even pretends to not understand what Rodney is suggesting and that he needs it explaining to him again, presumably to strengthen the illusion that it was Rodney's idea.
16th Mar '18 3:07:02 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Daenerys pretends to not understand the Valyrian dialect Kraznys mo Nakloz is speaking, only to reveal right before she fries him that she understood him all along.
19th Feb '18 6:27:33 PM CheeseDogX
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* Bull Shannon on ''Series/NightCourt'', though only occasionally.

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* Bull Shannon on ''Series/NightCourt'', [[DependingOnTheWriter though only occasionally.occasionally]].
19th Feb '18 6:20:05 PM CheeseDogX
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** Saffron's "real husband" Durran Haymer appears to be fooled by Saffron's story until it becomes very obvious it's false. When she mocks that if he had any sense he would have called the police the moment he saw her, he reveals that he did, and has been stalling her.

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** Saffron's "real husband" Durran Haymer appears to be fooled by Saffron's story until it becomes very obvious it's false. When she mocks that if he had any sense he would have called the police the moment he saw her, [[YouAreTooLate he reveals that he did, did]], and has been stalling her.
19th Feb '18 6:17:05 PM CheeseDogX
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** John Crichton from does this very, very well. Many of his plans rely on the villain of the week dismissing the dumb human as inferior...leading to their ultimate defeat. John is an accomplished physicist and aerospace engineer, who designed the titular Farscape spacecraft to test his own theory, and at one point late in the show he builds his own thermonuclear weapon. From scratch. From ''memory.'' Even the rest of the crew underestimates the guy.
** Rygel uses this as well, though to a lesser extent. Such as in the first season episode when he was playing a game of chance with a pirate over the location a person the pirate was hunting. After he lost the game and gave the pirate the information, Zhaan was ready to chew him out until he revealed that he'd lost deliberately and given the pirate false information that would lead him wildly off course while still making it look like he'd been trying to win because he knew that the pirate wouldn't leave them alone unless he thought he'd gotten something more valuable. Rygel even complains how difficult it had been to pull off, since compared to him the pirate was a terrible player.

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** John Crichton from does this very, very well. Many of his plans rely on the villain of the week dismissing the dumb human as inferior...leading to their ultimate defeat. John is an accomplished physicist and aerospace engineer, who designed the titular Farscape spacecraft to test his own theory, and at one point late in the show he builds his own thermonuclear weapon. From scratch. From ''memory.'' Even the rest of the crew underestimates the guy.
** Rygel uses this as well, though to a lesser extent. Such as in the first season episode when he was playing a game of chance strategy with a pirate over the location a person the pirate was hunting. After he lost the game and gave the pirate the information, Zhaan was ready to chew him out until he revealed that he'd lost deliberately and given the pirate false information that would lead him wildly off course course. All this while still making it look like he'd been trying to win win, because he knew that the pirate wouldn't leave them alone unless he thought he'd gotten something more valuable. Rygel even complains how difficult it had been to pull off, since compared to him the pirate was a terrible player.
19th Feb '18 6:09:07 PM CheeseDogX
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** In the early seasons, Lionel Jefferson would have fun with Archie by adopting a stereotypically "black" version of this around him.

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** In the early seasons, Lionel Jefferson would have fun with Archie by adopting a stereotypically "black" version of this around him. Mike thought it was demeaning, but Lionel saw it as harmless fun.
5th Feb '18 4:03:20 AM StarTropes
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* Doctor Bashir from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' missed a question during his final exams (specifically, he confused a preganglionic fiber for a postganglionic nerve) and thus failed to achieve valedictorian status. It's later hinted that he deliberately blew that question, and then confirmed that he did so to hide the fact that [[spoiler:he was given [[NoTranshumanismAllowed illegal genetic enhancements]]]].
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