History NotSoDifferent / VideoGames

15th Jun '17 12:32:06 PM BeerBaron
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*** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmer]].

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*** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to into what they are, they it is today, who bull-headedly look [[FantasticRacism looks down on other races races]] and professions [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect professions]] that is are commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were once skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmer]].Altmer]] as of the 4th Era.
12th Jun '17 3:12:16 PM Mineboot45
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-->'''Yukari''': Deep down inside, I think (Mom) still misses Dad. It's hard to explain, but I realized this when you and I started going out, ([[FirstNameBasis First]] [[HelloInsertCharacterNameHere Name]])-kun. She couldn't handle it... Losing someone so important to her.

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-->'''Yukari''': Deep down inside, I think (Mom) still misses Dad. It's hard to explain, but I realized this when you and I started going out, ([[FirstNameBasis First]] [[HelloInsertCharacterNameHere [[HelloInsertNameHere Name]])-kun. She couldn't handle it... Losing someone so important to her.
6th Jun '17 5:29:12 AM ApeAccount
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* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'': [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn]] seems to see his past self in [[Anime/CrossAnge Salia]], what with her needing to be accepted by somebody. [[spoiler:This comes to a head when she joins Embryo, as Shinn sees their relationship as being similar to the one he had with Chairman Durandal, so naturally, he tries to convince her to fight of her own free will]].

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* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'': [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn]] seems to see his past self in [[Anime/CrossAnge Salia]], what with her needing to be accepted by somebody. [[spoiler:This comes to a head when she joins Embryo, as Shinn sees their relationship as being similar to the one he had with Chairman Durandal, so naturally, he tries to convince her to fight of her own free will]].will]].
* In ''VideoGame/ThetaVsPi7'' King Pi uses this trope word for word, claiming that he used to be in the same position Theta is now. In his case, he doesn't do it to win Theta over to his side, but to warn Theta about ending up like him.
24th May '17 8:19:51 AM BeerBaron
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*** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmers]].

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*** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmers]].Altmer]].
12th May '17 10:58:28 AM BeerBaron
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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' has Mages Guild Archmage Trebonius Artorius. He's an incredibly skilled [[MagicKnight Battlemage]], which allowed him to rise in the ranks of the Mages Guild. However, he quickly proved utterly incompetent at managing Guild affairs, so he was KickedUpstairs to be in charge of the Guild branch [[ReassignedToAntarctica in the most backwater district of the Empire]], keeping him out of the hair of his mainland superiors. In Morrowind, the Imperial Mages Guild has to compete with the native Dunmer [[TheClan Great House]] Telvanni, a [[TheMagocracy Magocracy]] made up of [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld ancient]] and [[EvilSorcerer rather amoral]] sorcerers, when it comes to the business of magical arts. Trebonius, notorious for assigning his underlings {{Impossible Task}}s, will demand that the PlayerCharacter [[GeneralRipper kill all of the Telvanni councilors]]. His eccentric demands and power without common sense actually make him ''very'' similar to a typical Telvanni mage lord, and his solution for dealing with them is exactly what a Telvanni would do to his rivals.

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' has Morrowind]]'':
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Mages Guild Archmage Trebonius Artorius. He's an incredibly skilled [[MagicKnight Battlemage]], which allowed him to rise in the ranks of the Mages Guild. However, he quickly proved utterly incompetent at managing Guild affairs, so he was KickedUpstairs to be in charge of the Guild branch [[ReassignedToAntarctica in the most backwater district of the Empire]], keeping him out of the hair of his mainland superiors. In Morrowind, the Imperial Mages Guild has to compete with the native Dunmer [[TheClan Great House]] Telvanni, a [[TheMagocracy Magocracy]] made up of [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld ancient]] and [[EvilSorcerer rather amoral]] sorcerers, when it comes to the business of magical arts. Trebonius, notorious for assigning his underlings {{Impossible Task}}s, will demand that the PlayerCharacter [[GeneralRipper kill all of the Telvanni councilors]]. His eccentric demands and power without common sense actually make him ''very'' similar to a typical Telvanni mage lord, and his solution for dealing with them is exactly what a Telvanni would do to his rivals.rivals.
*** Vivec, the [[PhysicalGod Tribunal deity]], clearly was never a big fan of the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]]. As one of [[FounderOfTheKingdom Nerevar's]] councilors, Vivec believed that peace could not be had between the Chimer and Dwemer. He later urged Nerevar to make war on the Dwemer when evidence was brought forth that showed they were in possession of the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]] and were attempting to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence tap into its power]]. However, Vivec would later draw his own divine powers from the Heart and the AGodAmI-type response he gives if you question his past actions is ''very'' similar to the one he attributes to the [[MadScientist Dwemer Architect Kagrenac]] when Nerevar originally questioned him about the Heart in ''The Battle of Red Mountain'':
----> '''Vivec''': ''"Can you, mortal, presume to judge the actions and motives of a god?"''
----> '''Kagrenac''' (per Vivec): ''"But Kagrenac took great offense, and asked whom Nerevar thought he was, that he might presume to judge the affairs of the Dwemer."''
18th Apr '17 9:49:20 AM BeerBaron
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' has a very subtle one when the player is talking to Paarthurnax, a dragon who has overcome his inherent nature to kill and conquer and destroy through thousands of years of meditation and self control. He points out that ''all'' dragons have an inherent desire to be essentially destructive bastards - and then comments that ''you'', [[WhatTheHellPlayer the player]], being Dragonborn and thus possessing the soul of a dragon, [[VideogameCrueltyPotential likely have the same urges to kill and steal and destroy]], just like all the dragons you've been killing along the way.
** From the same game, there's also the songs "Age of Aggression" and "Age of Oppression", sung by bards in pro-Imperial or pro-Stormcloak holds, respectively. The song tunes are identical and both songs have parts where the lyrics are the same.

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]''
has Mages Guild Archmage Trebonius Artorius. He's an incredibly skilled [[MagicKnight Battlemage]], which allowed him to rise in the ranks of the Mages Guild. However, he quickly proved utterly incompetent at managing Guild affairs, so he was KickedUpstairs to be in charge of the Guild branch [[ReassignedToAntarctica in the most backwater district of the Empire]], keeping him out of the hair of his mainland superiors. In Morrowind, the Imperial Mages Guild has to compete with the native Dunmer [[TheClan Great House]] Telvanni, a [[TheMagocracy Magocracy]] made up of [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld ancient]] and [[EvilSorcerer rather amoral]] sorcerers, when it comes to the business of magical arts. Trebonius, notorious for assigning his underlings {{Impossible Task}}s, will demand that the PlayerCharacter [[GeneralRipper kill all of the Telvanni councilors]]. His eccentric demands and power without common sense actually make him ''very'' similar to a typical Telvanni mage lord, and his solution for dealing with them is exactly what a Telvanni would do to his rivals.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''
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very subtle one when the player is talking to Paarthurnax, a dragon who has overcome his inherent nature to kill and conquer and destroy through thousands of years of meditation and self control. He points out that ''all'' dragons have an inherent desire to be essentially destructive bastards - and then comments that ''you'', [[WhatTheHellPlayer the player]], being Dragonborn and thus possessing the soul of a dragon, [[VideogameCrueltyPotential likely have the same urges to kill and steal and destroy]], just like all the dragons you've been killing along the way.
** *** From the same game, there's also the songs "Age of Aggression" and "Age of Oppression", sung by bards in pro-Imperial or pro-Stormcloak holds, respectively. The song tunes are identical and both songs have parts where the lyrics are the same.



** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmers]].

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** *** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmers]].
16th Mar '17 12:58:02 AM kome360
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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of MeetTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermench), doesn't take the comparison very well.

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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of MeetTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermench), Ubermensch), doesn't take the comparison very well.well.
** The New Colossus is shaping up to be what happens when the Nazis lose control of the world - America goes mad with newfound power and makes a "few" upgrades to those dumb mechs, beginning their own genocidal campaign while Blascowicz is in a coma.
3rd Mar '17 6:54:53 PM josh6243
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* Invoked in the ''Nuka-World'' {{DLC}} for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''; a [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raider]] companion, Porter Gage, will react to the player being formally aligned with the Brotherhood of Steel by noting that the Brotherhood are really no different from Raiders -- using intimidation and violence to coerce people into providing supplies for them and stealing whatever they consider valuable (in their case, ancient tech like robots and energy weapons). The Brotherhood just dresses up what they do as having a "noble" cause, claiming they are guardians out to protect humanity from the destruction that the ancients caused with their mishandling of technology.

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* Invoked in the ''Nuka-World'' {{DLC}} for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''; a [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raider]] companion, Porter Gage, will react to the player being formally aligned with the Brotherhood of Steel by noting that the Brotherhood are really no different from Raiders -- using intimidation and violence to coerce people into providing supplies for them and stealing whatever they consider valuable (in their case, ancient tech like robots and energy weapons). The Brotherhood just dresses up what they do as having a "noble" cause, claiming they are guardians out to protect humanity from the destruction that the ancients caused with their mishandling of technology.technology.
* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'': [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn]] seems to see his past self in [[Anime/CrossAnge Salia]], what with her needing to be accepted by somebody. [[spoiler:This comes to a head when she joins Embryo, as Shinn sees their relationship as being similar to the one he had with Chairman Durandal, so naturally, he tries to convince her to fight of her own free will]].
9th Feb '17 6:57:36 PM RomanBowler
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** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmers]].
5th Feb '17 11:40:50 PM kome360
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* As a meta example in online multiplayer games, you'll never know if the enemy team is better than you or just as fumbling and inexperienced with a side order of sheer luck. Same goes for the dickweeds: are they always like that, or do they act like you when they're not getting pummeled while their team is incompetent?
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