History NotSoDifferent / VideoGames

16th Mar '17 12:58:02 AM kome360
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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of MeetTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermench), doesn't take the comparison very well.

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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of MeetTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermench), Ubermensch), doesn't take the comparison very well.well.
** The New Colossus is shaping up to be what happens when the Nazis lose control of the world - America goes mad with newfound power and makes a "few" upgrades to those dumb mechs, beginning their own genocidal campaign while Blascowicz is in a coma.
3rd Mar '17 6:54:53 PM josh6243
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* Invoked in the ''Nuka-World'' {{DLC}} for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''; a [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raider]] companion, Porter Gage, will react to the player being formally aligned with the Brotherhood of Steel by noting that the Brotherhood are really no different from Raiders -- using intimidation and violence to coerce people into providing supplies for them and stealing whatever they consider valuable (in their case, ancient tech like robots and energy weapons). The Brotherhood just dresses up what they do as having a "noble" cause, claiming they are guardians out to protect humanity from the destruction that the ancients caused with their mishandling of technology.

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* Invoked in the ''Nuka-World'' {{DLC}} for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''; a [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raider]] companion, Porter Gage, will react to the player being formally aligned with the Brotherhood of Steel by noting that the Brotherhood are really no different from Raiders -- using intimidation and violence to coerce people into providing supplies for them and stealing whatever they consider valuable (in their case, ancient tech like robots and energy weapons). The Brotherhood just dresses up what they do as having a "noble" cause, claiming they are guardians out to protect humanity from the destruction that the ancients caused with their mishandling of technology.technology.
* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'': [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn]] seems to see his past self in [[Anime/CrossAnge Salia]], what with her needing to be accepted by somebody. [[spoiler:This comes to a head when she joins Embryo, as Shinn sees their relationship as being similar to the one he had with Chairman Durandal, so naturally, he tries to convince her to fight of her own free will]].
9th Feb '17 6:57:36 PM RomanBowler
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** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel to what they are, they bull-headedly look down on other races and professions that is commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmers]].
5th Feb '17 11:40:50 PM kome360
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* As a meta example in online multiplayer games, you'll never know if the enemy team is better than you or just as fumbling and inexperienced with a side order of sheer luck. Same goes for the dickweeds: are they always like that, or do they act like you when they're not getting pummeled while their team is incompetent?
22nd Jan '17 2:56:10 PM Xtifr
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* Between members of TheParty in ''VideoGame/TearsToTiara2''. When discussing the prospects of an alliance with Qart Hadast, Monomachus calls them cowards for abandoning their previous alliance as soon as the war turned against Hispania, and Hanno not a real friend and family because he just sat back and watched Hasdrubal die. Enneads reminds him that they, loyal subordinates, also sat back and watched him die.

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* Between members of TheParty the party in ''VideoGame/TearsToTiara2''. When discussing the prospects of an alliance with Qart Hadast, Monomachus calls them cowards for abandoning their previous alliance as soon as the war turned against Hispania, and Hanno not a real friend and family because he just sat back and watched Hasdrubal die. Enneads reminds him that they, loyal subordinates, also sat back and watched him die.
6th Jan '17 11:39:35 PM WanderingBrowser
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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of HereComesTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermench), doesn't take the comparison very well.

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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of HereComesTheNewBoss.MeetTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermench), doesn't take the comparison very well.



-->'''Yukari''': Deep down inside, I think (Mom) still misses Dad. It's hard to explain, but I realized this when you and I started going out, ([[FirstNameBasis First]] [[HelloInsertCharacterNameHere Name]])-kun. She couldn't handle it... Losing someone so important to her.

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-->'''Yukari''': Deep down inside, I think (Mom) still misses Dad. It's hard to explain, but I realized this when you and I started going out, ([[FirstNameBasis First]] [[HelloInsertCharacterNameHere Name]])-kun. She couldn't handle it... Losing someone so important to her.her.
* Invoked in the ''Nuka-World'' {{DLC}} for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''; a [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raider]] companion, Porter Gage, will react to the player being formally aligned with the Brotherhood of Steel by noting that the Brotherhood are really no different from Raiders -- using intimidation and violence to coerce people into providing supplies for them and stealing whatever they consider valuable (in their case, ancient tech like robots and energy weapons). The Brotherhood just dresses up what they do as having a "noble" cause, claiming they are guardians out to protect humanity from the destruction that the ancients caused with their mishandling of technology.
21st Dec '16 9:25:02 AM Morgenthaler
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** Jin also has this dynamic with [[VideoGame/BlazblueChronoPhantasma Kagura]]. They're both tall, [[ChickMagnet physically attractive]], [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] and immensely {{Badass}} heads of powerful noble families in the Duodecim. It's suggested by characters in story that if Jin were never born, Kagura would've been the Hero of Ikaruga. They even both have a thing for motorcycles! The main difference between them, however, is personality: Kagura is a laid-back NiceGuy, Jin is an arrogant {{Jerkass}}.

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** Jin also has this dynamic with [[VideoGame/BlazblueChronoPhantasma Kagura]]. They're both tall, [[ChickMagnet physically attractive]], [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] and immensely {{Badass}} badass heads of powerful noble families in the Duodecim. It's suggested by characters in story that if Jin were never born, Kagura would've been the Hero of Ikaruga. They even both have a thing for motorcycles! The main difference between them, however, is personality: Kagura is a laid-back NiceGuy, Jin is an arrogant {{Jerkass}}.
20th Oct '16 5:47:00 PM thatmadork
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*** The Civil War questline gets tons of this. Try saving before the peace treaty negotiation and take different dialogue options favouring one side or the other, and make note of how often the two sides will say nearly the same thing. More poignantly, if you completed the Civil War questline before the main story, [[spoiler:you'll see Rikke if you sided with the Stormcloaks, and Ulfric and Galmar if you sided with the Empire, in Sovngarde. It seems that no matter what petty squabbles the mortals have, in the eyes of Shor, they're all Nords and all worthy heroes who deserve a place in the afterlife.]]
20th Oct '16 8:08:30 AM Valen
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* In ''VideoGame/Persona2'', twin deities Philemon and Nyarlathotep embody the best and worst traits of humanity, respectively. The plot of the game is set into motion by a bet the two make on whether humanity will be more like Philemon and elevate themselves, or more like Nyarlathotep and destroy themselves. Nyarlathotep is a prideful {{Jerkass}} who breaks the rules of the bet from the outset to make humanity ruin itself, so naturally, Philemon is BigGood by default, right? [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Maybe not.]] Even though they have polar opposite goals and Philemon is unfailingly kind and helpful, they both have the exact same method to get people to do what they want: give them some power and manipulate them into fighting the other's agents. Plus, as good a benefactor Philemon is, he shows the same callous disregard for his champion's suffering as the villainous Nyarlathotep does. There's even an option to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu punch Philemon in the face]] later on.

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* In ''VideoGame/Persona2'', twin deities Philemon and Nyarlathotep embody the best and worst traits of humanity, respectively. The plot of the game is set into motion by a bet the two make on whether humanity will be more like Philemon and elevate themselves, or more like Nyarlathotep and destroy themselves. Nyarlathotep is a prideful {{Jerkass}} who breaks the rules of the bet from the outset to make humanity ruin itself, so naturally, Philemon is BigGood by default, right? [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Maybe not.]] Even though they have polar opposite goals and Philemon is unfailingly kind and helpful, they both have the exact same method to get people to do what they want: give them some power and manipulate them into fighting the other's agents. Plus, as good a benefactor Philemon is, he shows the same callous disregard for his champion's suffering as the villainous Nyarlathotep does. There's even an option to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punch Philemon in the face]] later on.
20th Oct '16 8:05:32 AM Valen
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* In ''VideoGame/MegaManZero 4'', [[BigBad Dr. Weil]] desperately bluffs Zero and tries to convince him that killing Weil would be stooping to his level of villainy. In an unorthodox move, Zero kills him anyway, making note at how he never considered himself a hero to begin with.

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* In ''VideoGame/MegaManZero 4'', [[BigBad Dr. Weil]] desperately bluffs Zero and tries to convince him that killing Weil would be stooping to his level of villainy. In an unorthodox move, a rare example for this trope, Zero kills him anyway, making note at how [[BlackAndGreyMorality ''agrees'' with him]], saying he never considered thought of himself as a hero to begin with.with, and kills him anyway.


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* In ''VideoGame/Persona2'', twin deities Philemon and Nyarlathotep embody the best and worst traits of humanity, respectively. The plot of the game is set into motion by a bet the two make on whether humanity will be more like Philemon and elevate themselves, or more like Nyarlathotep and destroy themselves. Nyarlathotep is a prideful {{Jerkass}} who breaks the rules of the bet from the outset to make humanity ruin itself, so naturally, Philemon is BigGood by default, right? [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Maybe not.]] Even though they have polar opposite goals and Philemon is unfailingly kind and helpful, they both have the exact same method to get people to do what they want: give them some power and manipulate them into fighting the other's agents. Plus, as good a benefactor Philemon is, he shows the same callous disregard for his champion's suffering as the villainous Nyarlathotep does. There's even an option to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu punch Philemon in the face]] later on.
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