History NotSoDifferent / LiveActionTV

26th Nov '17 4:45:00 AM RomanceGirl
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** Buffy and Angel. They're both leaders and champions, martyring, have an almost identical relationship with their respective "other" (Faith for Buffy, Spike for Angel), and are consistently cut off from everyone around them as they walk the line between the human and demon world. Both have been shunned or turned on by their team. Not to mention they both had a "dark" nihilistic phase on their own show eerily reminiscent of the other right down to sleeping with a soulless vampire to "feel".

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** Buffy and Angel. They're both leaders and champions, martyring, have an almost identical relationship rivalry with their respective "other" (Faith for Buffy, Spike for Angel), and are consistently cut off from everyone around them as they walk the line between the human and demon world. Both have been shunned or turned on by their team. Not to mention they both had a "dark" nihilistic phase on their own show eerily reminiscent of the other right down to sleeping with a soulless vampire to "feel"."feel"...
23rd Nov '17 11:56:20 AM RomanceGirl
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** Buffy and Angel. They're both leaders and champions, are very big-picture obsessed/martyring, have an almost identical relationship with their respective "rival" (Faith for Buffy, Spike for Angel), and are consistently cut off from everyone around them due to walking the line between the human and demon world. Both have been shunned or turned on by their team. Not to mention they both had a "dark" nihilistic phase eerily reminiscent of the other right down to sleeping with a soulless vampire to "feel".

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** Buffy and Angel. They're both leaders and champions, are very big-picture obsessed/martyring, martyring, have an almost identical relationship with their respective "rival" "other" (Faith for Buffy, Spike for Angel), and are consistently cut off from everyone around them due to walking as they walk the line between the human and demon world. Both have been shunned or turned on by their team. Not to mention they both had a "dark" nihilistic phase on their own show eerily reminiscent of the other right down to sleeping with a soulless vampire to "feel".
23rd Nov '17 11:52:27 AM RomanceGirl
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** Spike is constantly telling Buffy this in Season 6, and while Buffy always angrily denies the idea it's clear she also secretly believes him, fueling her decision to have a torrid affair with Spike. Of course, it was there way back in season 2, when the two [[EnemyMine teamed up]] in order to stop Angelus from destroying the world and ended up working off each other fairly well. There's also something to be said about their devotion to their respective love interests (Buffy to Angel, Spike to Drusilla, later to each other when they're not destroying themselves...).

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** Spike is constantly telling Buffy this in Season 6, and while Buffy always angrily denies the idea it's clear she also secretly believes him, fueling her decision to have a torrid affair with Spike. Of course, it was there way back in season 2, when the two [[EnemyMine teamed up]] in order to stop Angelus from destroying the world and ended up working off each other fairly well. There's also something to be said about their devotion rebellion against typical norms with Spike constantly proving himself to be an outlier in the vampire world (souled or soulless) just as Buffy is when it comes to being a Slayer.
**Buffy and Angel. They're both leaders and champions, are very big-picture obsessed/martyring, have an almost identical relationship with
their respective love interests (Buffy to Angel, "rival" (Faith for Buffy, Spike for Angel), and are consistently cut off from everyone around them due to Drusilla, later walking the line between the human and demon world. Both have been shunned or turned on by their team. Not to each mention they both had a "dark" nihilistic phase eerily reminiscent of the other when they're not destroying themselves...).right down to sleeping with a soulless vampire to "feel".
14th Nov '17 10:27:38 PM Kickisund
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--> '''Merlin'''/'''Morgana''':[[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids I grew up.]]

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--> '''Merlin'''/'''Morgana''':[[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids '''Merlin'''/'''Morgana''': [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids I grew up.]]



** Both have a history as TheCasanova (for Uncle Phil is was around the same age as Will Smith)
** Both are major [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarkers]]
** Both are afraid of losing their mothers to another man
** Both grew up in poor backgrounds

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** Both have a history as TheCasanova (for Uncle (Uncle Phil is was one too when he was around the same age as Will Smith)
Smith).
** Both are major [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarkers]]
Snarkers]].
** Both are afraid of losing their mothers to another man
man.
** Both grew up in poor backgroundsbackgrounds.
4th Nov '17 9:13:05 PM SomberCaelifera
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-->'''The Doctor:''' [The prison] drift through space. Snatches people with belief systems. It converts the peoples fate into food for the creature. According to the info-recorder, the program developed glitches, got stuck on the same setting.

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-->'''The Doctor:''' [The prison] drift drifts through space. Snatches people with belief systems. It converts the peoples fate peoples' faith into food for the creature. According to the info-recorder, the program developed glitches, got stuck on the same setting.



-->'''The Doctor:''' ''[Translating the Minotaur]'' An ancient creature, drenched in the blood of the innocent. Drifting in space through an ever-shifting maze. Such a creature... Death would be a gift. [''To the Minotaur''] Then accept it. And sleep well. ''[The Minotaur grunts its final words, stopping the Doctor cold in his tracks]'' ... I wasn't talking about myself.

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-->'''The Doctor:''' ''[Translating the Minotaur]'' An ancient creature, drenched in the blood of the innocent. Drifting in space through an ever-shifting maze. Such For such a creature... creature...Death would be a gift. [''To the Minotaur''] Then accept it. And sleep well. ''[The Minotaur grunts its final words, stopping the Doctor cold in his tracks]'' ... I wasn't talking about myself.



** In their lead up to the 40th anniversary, Big Finish produced a trilogy of audio dramas, Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho047Omega, Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho048Davros, and Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho049Master, to show how the Doctor and these villains were not so different. This is really emphasised in ''Master'', with TheReveal that the Doctor [[spoiler:made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Death]] while a child so his memories of a murder he committed would go to his friend, which turned the Master evil]]. Of course, the show gives us the real story of what makes the Master who he is and it's quite different.
** The trend of the Doctor getting positively scary when faced with Daleks returns in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E2IntoTheDalek "Into the Dalek."]] The short version is, [[spoiler: a Dalek claims to have made a HeelFaceTurn after seeing the wonders of the universe and that life can never be ''exterminated.'' Turns out the Dalek is damaged, dying. The Doctor fixes "Rusty," but it turns out that he also fixed the tech that helps keep Daleks "pure." Cue rampage. So the Doctor tries to make Rusty as he was, by giving him some of his own memories. It's all well and good... until he gets to the Doctor's own memories of and feelings about the Daleks. This sends Rusty on a spree of blasting the other Daleks; it's unlike a normal Dalek rampage ''purely'' in terms of who he's targeting. Not a thing about the beauty of the universe or sanctity of life, it's "THE DALEKS ARE EVIL! THE DALEKS MUST BE EXTERMINATED!" At the end, the Doctor laments the outcome; he doesn't like the fact that there's that kind of hatred in him, and he'd also hoped Rusty could truly be good. Rusty tells him, "I am not a good Dalek. ''You'' are a good Dalek."]] It's of course, not the first time he's heard that.

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** In their lead up to the 40th anniversary, Big Finish produced a trilogy of audio dramas, Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho047Omega, Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho048Davros, and Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho049Master, to show how the Doctor and these villains were not so different. This is really emphasised emphasized in ''Master'', with TheReveal that the Doctor [[spoiler:made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Death]] while a child so his memories of a murder he committed would go to his friend, which turned the Master evil]]. Of course, the show gives us the real story of what makes the Master who he is and it's quite different.
** The trend of the Doctor getting positively scary when faced with Daleks returns in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E2IntoTheDalek "Into the Dalek."]] The short version is, [[spoiler: a Dalek claims to have made a HeelFaceTurn after seeing the wonders of the universe and that life can never be ''exterminated.'' Turns out the Dalek is damaged, dying. The Doctor fixes "Rusty," but it turns out that he also fixed the tech that helps keep Daleks "pure." Cue rampage. So the Doctor tries to make Rusty as he was, by giving him some of his own memories. It's all well and good... until he gets to the Doctor's own memories of and feelings about the Daleks. This sends Rusty on a spree of blasting the other Daleks; it's unlike a normal Dalek rampage ''purely'' in terms of who he's targeting. Not a thing about the beauty of the universe or sanctity of life, it's "THE DALEKS ARE EVIL! THE DALEKS MUST BE EXTERMINATED!" At the end, the Doctor laments the outcome; he doesn't like the fact that there's that kind of hatred in him, and he'd also hoped Rusty could truly be good. Rusty tells him, "I am not a good Dalek. ''You'' are a good Dalek."]] It's of course, not the first time he's heard that.
16th Oct '17 12:55:57 AM tsstevens
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** This comes up often between Buffy and Faith (and Buffy and Angelus, and Buffy and {{Dracula}} for that matter)...

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** This comes up often between Buffy and Faith (and Buffy and Angelus, and Buffy and {{Dracula}} for that matter)...[[CelebCrush for one]] Buffy has such a huge thing for Creator/DanielCraig that she creeps the Bond fan and CampGay Andrew out, while Faith demands Angel drag him to her.
6th Sep '17 1:01:45 PM GrammarNavi
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** In "When the Bough Breaks", when [[spoiler: Bud's recovering from his leg injury]], he befriends the Admiral's current girlfriend, a professor of Shakespeare, by noting how several episodes of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' borrow from some of {{Shakespeare}}'s plays.

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** In "When the Bough Breaks", when [[spoiler: Bud's recovering from his leg injury]], he befriends the Admiral's current girlfriend, a professor of Shakespeare, [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare]], by noting how several episodes of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' borrow from some of {{Shakespeare}}'s Shakespeare's plays.
2nd Sep '17 11:00:11 AM nombretomado
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* Stanton Parish says this to Dr Rosen in the Season 1 SeasonFinale of ''{{Alphas}}''. Both of them manipulate others for their own ends, and both feel those ends are aided by TheMasquerade. Rosen points out that he might manipulate people, but he's trying to ''help'' them, and subsequently [[spoiler: [[TheUnmasquedWorld blows the Masquerade open]].]]

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* Stanton Parish says this to Dr Rosen in the Season 1 SeasonFinale of ''{{Alphas}}''.''Series/{{Alphas}}''. Both of them manipulate others for their own ends, and both feel those ends are aided by TheMasquerade. Rosen points out that he might manipulate people, but he's trying to ''help'' them, and subsequently [[spoiler: [[TheUnmasquedWorld blows the Masquerade open]].]]
20th Aug '17 6:35:23 PM project13Kr
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*** In a continuation of a look at the Federation, one character begins to compare the federation with the borg as they (at least according to him) are both assimilating other cultures so they can grow and learn.

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*** In a continuation of a look at the Federation, one character begins to compare the federation Federation with the borg Borg as they (at least according to him) are both assimilating other cultures so they can grow and learn.
9th Jul '17 2:54:34 AM Flame
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** KamenRiderWizard: Gremlin/Sora claims this of Haurato and himself. Both were victims of the Sabbat who somehow retained their humanity. Turns out to not be the case. Haurato had the willpower to never give into despair, which required for a Phantom to appear. Sora on the other hand... never had a humanity to give up.

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** KamenRiderWizard: Gremlin/Sora claims this of Haurato Haruto and himself. Both were victims of the Sabbat who somehow retained their humanity. Turns out to not be the case. Haurato Haruto had the willpower to never give into despair, which is required for a Phantom to appear. Sora on the other hand... never had a humanity to give up.up.
* ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' has Hiiro Kagami/Kamen Rider Brave and Taiga Hanaya/Kamen Rider Snipe. They are both [[SmugSnake smug]], cold [[DoctorJerk DoctorJerks]] who have only minimal care for the patient if any at all. They are also both [[JerkassWoobie JerkassWoobies]] hiding under mask of [[TheStoic stoicism]] and [[JerkassFacade generally nasty behavior]] to be able to soldier on at all. It still goes deeper to point that they are very similar characters that were influenced by different circumstances. Since they also start the story hating each other this is recipe for disaster. [[spoiler: With [[TheHeart Emu's]] life is at stake, they resort to TeethClenchedTeamwork, but the edges only get duller from that point onwards.]]
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