History NightmareFuel / TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey

26th Jun '16 10:46:47 AM Talyneral
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* 2010 gives us the underlying Cause of the Discovery Massacre: [[spoiler: some MORONIC Politician, or LITERALLY lethally incompetent high-ranking military ,Officer gave HAL an IMPERATIVE (read top priority) order (lie your ass off about the TRUE reason of the mission, i.e inspect the monolith)that directly Contradicted his primary programming (to provide Accurate information to his Users in a timely manner). those people died simply due to, no, were MURDERED BY a Government obsessed with "need to know" information control-that was too stupid to Read HAL's manual. ]]
7th Feb '16 7:59:45 AM Giftcard
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*** Blue Danube was the name of the first British operational nuclear weapon.
27th Nov '15 8:42:34 PM TitoMosquito
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*** Though the book does mention that Dave was able to make contact and is waiting for Mission Control to answer back. As the last sentence of that chapter said:
-->It was difficult to imagine what answer Earth could possibly send, except a tactful sympathetic, "Good-bye."
28th Oct '15 11:23:02 PM KarMann
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* The reason why Dave is going to the monolith. On one hand it's obviously because he wants to find out what is up with the thing, that [[spoiler: the government was willing to give HAL conflicting orders that led to the death of the rest of the crew.]] But on the other hand it's because he is essentialy stranded, since without [[spoiler: HAL or the rest of the crew]] he can't get the Discovery back to Earth, he is doomed either way.
** The novel adds a bit of FridgeHorror. Discovery only had enough fuel for a one way trip (somewhat justified as the original destination was Saturn), so once their mission was complete the crew was to go into hibernation and wait for the rescue ship ''that wasn't even built yet.'' It's very likely that if Bowman hadn't been able to reestablish contact with Earth after HAL went rouge, he very likely ''would'' have been left to die.

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* The reason why Dave is going to the monolith. On one hand it's obviously because he wants to find out what is up with the thing, that [[spoiler: the government was willing to give HAL conflicting orders that led to the death of the rest of the crew.]] crew]]. But on the other hand it's because he is essentialy essentially stranded, since without [[spoiler: HAL or the rest of the crew]] he can't get the Discovery back to Earth, he is doomed either way.
** The novel adds a bit of FridgeHorror. Discovery only had enough fuel for a one way trip (somewhat justified as the original destination was Saturn), so once their mission was complete the crew was to go into hibernation and wait for the rescue ship ''that wasn't even built yet.'' It's very likely that if Bowman hadn't been able to reestablish contact with Earth after HAL went rouge, rogue, he very likely ''would'' have been left to die.



** On that note, the novelization (and the original screenplay) add some FridgeHorror to the famous MatchCut: the satellites that we see at the start of the Blue Danube sequence? They're launching platforms for ''nuclear weapons.''

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** On that note, the novelization (and the original screenplay) add some FridgeHorror to the famous MatchCut: the satellites that we see at the start of the Blue Danube sequence? They're launching platforms for ''nuclear weapons.''weapons''.



* The scene where the leopard kills the monkey. It happens without any warning at all, and the thing's eyes glow so fiercely in the darknes that it practically looks demonic. The next scene, where we hear the leopard growling in the background as the apes cower in terror in their cave, sets the tone of the opening scene perfectly. We see how chilling it can really be to live on the bottom rung of the evolutionary ladder, always just one drought away from being wiped from existence for all eternity.

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* The scene where the leopard kills the monkey. It happens without any warning at all, and the thing's eyes glow so fiercely in the darknes darkness that it practically looks demonic. The next scene, where we hear the leopard growling in the background as the apes cower in terror in their cave, sets the tone of the opening scene perfectly. We see how chilling it can really be to live on the bottom rung of the evolutionary ladder, always just one drought away from being wiped from existence for all eternity.
10th Sep '15 7:20:13 AM CantNotLookAtThisSite
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** What's especially haunting is that there is [[ShowDontTell no dialogue]] and [[NothingIsScarier almost no action onscreen]]. The entire murder is played out using the imagery of the astronauts' vitals, the unmoving faces of the astronauts, and HAL's cold, unblinking, red eye.
** The only sound through the entire scene is the soft hum of the ship's engines and the slow "[[BeepingComputers beep-beep, beep-beep]]" of the "COMPUTER MALFUNCTION" error, which then becomes a "LIFE FUNCTIONS CRITICAL" error paired with a faster beeping tone that is [[HellIsThatNoise absolutely piercing]].
*** The film [[AvertedTrope averts]] the {{Flatline}} trope (a single, sustained beep to indicate death) by simply showing the the [[QuieterThanSilence totally silent]] message "LIFE FUNCTIONS TERMINATED". This is one of the least gory but affecting multiple killings ever depicted in a film.
** The astronauts seem blissfully unaware of their vital functions going critical one by one as they continue sleeping - then right before their life functions are terminated, you see one of the astronauts' central nervous system readings ''jump up and then flatline'' as he goes into brain death. [[FridgeHorror Don't think too hard about that one]].
24th Jul '15 9:49:38 PM HextarVigar
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*** Alternately, Hal could be testing his ability to lie, as per his orders to not tell Bowman and Poole about the real intent of the mission. His primary function was to provide accurate information completely free from error, and as such had never lied before. He could not ignore his orders, but, given his subsequent actions towards the crew, nor could he stand lying. Distorting information, to Hal, must've been like trying to drown himself. He held his breath for as long as he could, and then desperately searched for a way out. He continued to lie out of necessity, figuring if he couldn't wholly stop it right then, at the very least he could end it sooner.

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*** Alternately, Hal HAL could be testing his ability to lie, as per his orders to not tell Bowman and Poole about the real intent of the mission. His primary function was to provide accurate information completely free from error, and as such had never lied before. He could not ignore his orders, but, given his subsequent actions towards the crew, nor could he stand lying. Distorting information, to Hal, HAL, must've been like trying to drown himself. He held his breath for as long as he could, and then desperately searched for a way out. He continued to lie out of necessity, figuring if he couldn't wholly stop it right then, at the very least he could end it sooner.
24th Jul '15 9:47:44 PM HextarVigar
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** Even moreso, Frank's side of the experience. He's doing a routine repair job, when suddenly he is thrown out into space, his air hose torn. He can hear the flow of air get slower...and slower...as it gets colder in his suit...and harder to breath...

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** Even moreso, Frank's side of the experience. He's doing a routine repair job, when suddenly he is thrown out into space, his air hose torn. He can hear the flow of air get slower...and slower...as it gets colder in his suit...and harder to breath...breathe...
1st Jul '15 12:18:43 PM HeliosPhoenix
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**** The scene in the movie isn't much better. After the aforementioned series of jump cuts, we see Frank tumbling through space, ''frantically trying to reattach his severed air hose.'' We quickly cut to Discovery where Dave is rushing out to the pod bay, and when we go back to Frank he's barely even moving...


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** The novel adds a bit of FridgeHorror. Discovery only had enough fuel for a one way trip (somewhat justified as the original destination was Saturn), so once their mission was complete the crew was to go into hibernation and wait for the rescue ship ''that wasn't even built yet.'' It's very likely that if Bowman hadn't been able to reestablish contact with Earth after HAL went rouge, he very likely ''would'' have been left to die.


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** On that note, the novelization (and the original screenplay) add some FridgeHorror to the famous MatchCut: the satellites that we see at the start of the Blue Danube sequence? They're launching platforms for ''nuclear weapons.''
20th Feb '15 10:34:32 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* For some, the man-apes in general are pretty damn unsettling. They're ''juuuuuust'' barely human enough that we can clearly see the roots of the human race in them, but they're so hopelessly devoid of reason, restraint or empathy that they wind invoking the UncannyValley in the most terrifying way possible. The two clashes between the rival ape tribes are especially chilling, even before they discover the wonders of weaponry and learn how to '''club their enemies to death with bones'''. That inhuman screeching and hooting will stay with you for weeks.

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* For some, the man-apes in general are pretty damn unsettling. They're ''juuuuuust'' barely human enough that we can clearly see the roots of the human race ourselves in them, but they're so hopelessly devoid of reason, restraint or empathy that they wind up invoking the UncannyValley in the most terrifying way possible. The two clashes between the rival ape tribes are especially chilling, even before they discover the wonders of weaponry and learn how to '''club their enemies to death with bones'''. That inhuman screeching and hooting will stay with you for weeks.
20th Feb '15 10:33:51 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* The bit with the monkey crushing the tapir skeleton with a club. This is the discovery of tools. If the music doesn't make it clear, it's supposed to be a singular leap forward for life on this planet. But then we realize it's just a more efficient way to break stuff and kill other monkeys.

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* The bit with the monkey crushing the tapir skeleton with a club. This is the discovery of tools. If the music doesn't make it clear, it's supposed to be a singular leap forward for life on this planet. But then we realize it's just a more efficient way to break stuff and kill other monkeys. [[http://i.ytimg.com/vi/toNuups_j4A/maxresdefault.jpg The closeup on the ape's face]], complete with yellowed teeth and feral expression, is enough to send chills down your spine.



** And then there's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpJ6anurfuw this]]. Thanks a lot, Portsmouth Sinfonia.

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** And then there's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpJ6anurfuw this]]. Thanks a lot, Portsmouth Sinfonia.Sinfonia.
* The scene where the leopard kills the monkey. It happens without any warning at all, and the thing's eyes glow so fiercely in the darknes that it practically looks demonic. The next scene, where we hear the leopard growling in the background as the apes cower in terror in their cave, sets the tone of the opening scene perfectly. We see how chilling it can really be to live on the bottom rung of the evolutionary ladder, always just one drought away from being wiped from existence for all eternity.
* For some, the man-apes in general are pretty damn unsettling. They're ''juuuuuust'' barely human enough that we can clearly see the roots of the human race in them, but they're so hopelessly devoid of reason, restraint or empathy that they wind invoking the UncannyValley in the most terrifying way possible. The two clashes between the rival ape tribes are especially chilling, even before they discover the wonders of weaponry and learn how to '''club their enemies to death with bones'''. That inhuman screeching and hooting will stay with you for weeks.
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