History NightmareFuel / Twilight

28th Nov '16 12:53:24 AM newblood75
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* Vampires babies. They're vampires so they are strong, fast, and almost indestructible. They're babies so they don't grow out of their newborn phase (eat every human they come across) and you know what's worse ? They're so cute that any vampires that sees them immediatly ''have'' to protect them and to help them kill people to the extent that the Volturi had to ''kill everyone'' implied in their vampirisation and made the subject taboo.

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* Vampires babies. They're vampires so they are strong, fast, and almost indestructible. They're babies so they don't grow out of their newborn phase (eat every human they come across) and you know what's worse ? They're so cute that any vampires that sees them immediatly immediately ''have'' to protect them and to help them kill people to the extent that the Volturi had to ''kill everyone'' implied in their vampirisation vampirization and made the subject taboo.taboo.
** It gets worse when you apply everything you already know about ordinary vampires to them:
*** Changing a human into a vampire is a very difficult thing to do. Very rarely does a vampire ever find the self-control to stop feeding once they start and thus let the transformation take place—they usually wind up being unable to stop and just kill and eat the person in question. Also, a vampire can eat up to ten adults before they can be sated enough to stop eating another one, and even then they can slip. So not only were the vampires in question ''eating babies'', but they likely had to go through over a dozen of them before they got it right.
*** The transformation from human to vampire is excruciatingly painful and lasts days on end, usually around three. So they inflicted days long ''torture'' on ''babies and children''. An adult who suffers the pain of the vampire transformation can understand pain, and sometimes can understand why it’s happening, and can rationalize it and work through it. A baby can’t. A baby just knows that it hurts and it doesn’t understand why and all it wants it to do is stop.
*** Vampire thirst is not just feeling hungry. Despite textual evidence to the contrary, Meyer assures us that the thirst is just pain—horrible pain in the throat, like a constant third-degree burn (those are Meyer’s words, as she doesn't seem to know that burns that severe actually kill your nerve endings so you really don’t feel too much). The torture of these infants that don’t understand what pain is or where it comes from or how to fix it does not last three days. It will last their entire existence, and they will never get to a point where they can understand it or get used to it or rationalize it like an adult can. Because they are babies. For eternity, all they will know is that it hurts, and they want it to stop. They would not be the adorable, giggling, bouncing tots with cute lisps and happy smiles that Meyer envisioned. They would be eternally miserable and crying because they have perpetual third-degree burns in their throats.
** These children had their entire lives ahead of them. They had only lived but a few years, were barely aged at all…and these vampires took that from them. They are now stuck at that age, will never be more than an infant that can’t comprehend its surroundings and learn and understand the world around it, all because these vampires were like children that never want their puppy or kitten to grow up because puppies and kittens are much more fun than the adults. They will never get to learn to walk, learn to talk, learn to read, learn to appreciate art or music or science. They’ll never know the joy of their own accomplishments, they’ll never make friends, they’ll never fall in love. [[AndIMustScream They are trapped in a literal eternity of mindless torment.]]
23rd Nov '16 3:04:37 AM Morgenthaler
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* Being made into a vampire isn't the mild process described in so many other works. ''Three straight days'' of burning, unbearable pain lie between human and immortality as the venom transforms the skin--and presumably internals organs--into a hard, marble like substance. Oh, and the reason why the vampires, even those who were dark-skinned in life are so pale...because the venom has literally ''seared the blood from their veins'' making them little more than empty tubes waiting to be filled with stolen blood. What somehow makes this even worse is that again unlike many other works, there is no involved, ritualistic process (such as a [[VampireChronicles blood exchange)]] in becoming a vampire. All it takes is a single bite, no matter how shallow and you've joined the sparkly undead.

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* Being made into a vampire isn't the mild process described in so many other works. ''Three straight days'' of burning, unbearable pain lie between human and immortality as the venom transforms the skin--and presumably internals organs--into a hard, marble like substance. Oh, and the reason why the vampires, even those who were dark-skinned in life are so pale...because the venom has literally ''seared the blood from their veins'' making them little more than empty tubes waiting to be filled with stolen blood. What somehow makes this even worse is that again unlike many other works, there is no involved, ritualistic process (such as a [[VampireChronicles [[Literature/TheVampireChronicles blood exchange)]] in becoming a vampire. All it takes is a single bite, no matter how shallow and you've joined the sparkly undead.
21st Oct '15 6:18:47 PM AsForMyHandle
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* Bella's eating disorder in Breaking Dawn, Part 1. If people want to see a binge-purge session or badly-done CGI thinspo, they can watch a LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek, which might even have more plot.
** That's...not really an eating disorder? I would say it is more akin to hyperemesis gravidarum.
24th Jul '15 1:43:37 PM StFan
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** In fact, Bella being in love with Edward is the only thing stopping this series from being a pure horror story. DasSporking did a "realistic retelling" of the restaurant scene where Edward confesses he's been following Bella and it's legitimately horrifying, even without touching on the worst aspects of the entire thing. Think about this; If Bella ''didn't'' love Edward back, what could Bella do about it? Edward is basically the ultimate stalker. He's faster than a car, can read minds (yours or those around you to find out where you are), and could probably track somebody by scent alone. If Bella was as creeped out by Edward's stalking as a real person probably would be, there is no way she could possibly get away from him.

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** In fact, Bella being in love with Edward is the only thing stopping this series from being a pure horror story. DasSporking Blog/DasSporking did a "realistic retelling" of the restaurant scene where Edward confesses he's been following Bella and it's legitimately horrifying, even without touching on the worst aspects of the entire thing. Think about this; If Bella ''didn't'' love Edward back, what could Bella do about it? Edward is basically the ultimate stalker. He's faster than a car, can read minds (yours or those around you to find out where you are), and could probably track somebody by scent alone. If Bella was as creeped out by Edward's stalking as a real person probably would be, there is no way she could possibly get away from him.
26th May '15 10:54:51 AM cricri3007
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* Vampires Babie. They're vampires so they are strong, fast, and almost indestructible. They're babies so they don't grow out of their newborn phase (eat every human they come across) and you know what's worse ? They're so cute that any vampires that sees them immediatly ''have'' to protect them and to help them kill people.

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* Vampires Babie.babies. They're vampires so they are strong, fast, and almost indestructible. They're babies so they don't grow out of their newborn phase (eat every human they come across) and you know what's worse ? They're so cute that any vampires that sees them immediatly ''have'' to protect them and to help them kill people. people to the extent that the Volturi had to ''kill everyone'' implied in their vampirisation and made the subject taboo.
25th May '15 5:20:34 AM cricri3007
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* Vampires Babie. They're vampires so they are strong, fast, and almost indestructible. They're babies so they don't grow out of their newborn phase (eat every human they come across) and you know what's worse ? They're so cute that any vampires that sees them immediatly ''have'' to protect them and to help them kill people.
1st May '15 1:02:27 PM catmuto
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* Rosalie's reason for turning Emmet. He reminded her of Henry, her best friend's ''baby''. She turned him, because she reminded him of the baby that she wanted but never got... and she's ''[[{{Squick}} sleeping]]'' with him.

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* Rosalie's reason for turning Emmet. He reminded her of Henry, her best friend's ''baby''. She turned him, because she he reminded him her of the baby that she wanted but never got... and she's ''[[{{Squick}} sleeping]]'' with him.
30th Apr '15 4:24:05 AM catmuto
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* The mental state of the vampires. She doesn't seem to realize this, but Meyer made it quite nightmareish by saying that a vampire never advances mentally from the state they were in when turned. This means that Esme is still depressed over having lost her child and wanting to commit suicide, Rosalie is still in the mental state of having been recently raped and beaten by someone she loved and similar. '''For eternity'''.



* The mental state of the vampires. She doesn't seem to realize this, but Meyer made it quite nightmareish by saying that a vampire never advances mentally from the state they were in when turned. This means that Esme is still depressed over having lost her child and wanting to commit suicide, Rosalie is still in the mental state of having been recently raped and beaten by someone she loved and similar. '''For eternity'''.

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* The mental state of the vampires. She doesn't seem to realize this, but Meyer made it quite nightmareish by saying that Thinking about it, how Bella's life as a vampire would go. Bella never advances mentally from the state they were in when turned. This means had any real hobbies, no extracurricular activities, didn't seem to care all that Esme is still depressed over having lost much about her child job, had no ambition to study anything, either in school or going to college and wanting has ''no idea'' what to commit suicide, Rosalie do with herself if Edward is still in the mental state of having been recently raped and beaten by someone not around. What will her existence as a vampire change? What will she loved and similar. '''For eternity'''.do if Edward goes off on a hunting trip without her? She has '''nothing''' to do.
30th Apr '15 4:21:47 AM catmuto
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* Rosalie's back story: beaten, gang-raped and left for dead by her drunk fiance and his friends, she is transformed into a vampire and takes revenge on them in a wedding dress.

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* Rosalie's back story: beaten, gang-raped and left for dead by her drunk fiance and his friends, she is transformed into a vampire and takes revenge on them in a wedding dress. dress.
** And Carlisle simply picked her up from the street, took her to his home and bit her. Didn't explain anything, didn't give her an option ''and'' his reason for turning her was because she was [[SoBeautifulItsACurse so beautiful]] and ''he wanted a mate for Edward''. He didn't necessarily wanted to save ''her''. It doesn't help that Rosalie must be scared out of her mind after being raped, beaten and then picked up by some other man. And Edward and Carlisle talk ''about'' her and not ''to'' her the entire time.
* Rosalie's reason for turning Emmet. He reminded her of Henry, her best friend's ''baby''. She turned him, because she reminded him of the baby that she wanted but never got... and she's ''[[{{Squick}} sleeping]]'' with him.
* The mental state of the vampires. She doesn't seem to realize this, but Meyer made it quite nightmareish by saying that a vampire never advances mentally from the state they were in when turned. This means that Esme is still depressed over having lost her child and wanting to commit suicide, Rosalie is still in the mental state of having been recently raped and beaten by someone she loved and similar. '''For eternity'''.
12th Apr '15 2:53:42 AM kateydidnt
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**That's...not really an eating disorder? I would say it is more akin to hyperemesis gravidarum.
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