History NightmareFuel / StarTrek

24th Jul '16 9:54:02 AM IchigoMontoya
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2nd Apr '16 5:59:02 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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** A bit of a fridge example: Since the 1960s, the phaser has represented a sort of holy grail in less-than-lethal weapon engineering; with their ability to subdue an individual ''or'' a crowd instantly with no noticeable lasting health effects. This film, however, makes a plot point of the fact that even phasers on stun are potentially deadly.

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** A bit *** The scene is also a subtle indication of a fridge example: Since General Chang's fanaticism, because Chang was aboard ''Qo'noS One'' at the 1960s, the phaser has represented a sort of holy grail in less-than-lethal weapon engineering; with their ability to subdue an individual ''or'' a crowd instantly with no noticeable lasting health effects. This film, however, makes a plot point time of the fact attack. Considering that even phasers on stun are potentially deadly.''Qo'noS One'' had just sustained heavy damage, and that they were facing a fully-armed and operational Starfleet cruiser commanded by James T. Kirk--a man who eats Klingon battlecruisers as a between-meal snack--the Klingon ship had virtually no chance of winning a firefight with ''Enterprise'', but no reason for them to expect that Kirk wouldn't defend his ship. This means that General Chang wasn't just willing to die for his cause, he ''expected'' to die for it. Keep in mind that this was a plan that ''he was involved in making''. There's something very unsettling about that level of fanaticism.
17th Feb '16 5:57:27 PM hamza678
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8th Jan '16 6:28:37 AM ACW
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7th Jan '16 2:00:04 PM HeraldAlberich
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27th Dec '15 5:18:49 AM rtan
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**** FridgeLogic: The Enterprise has just fired on a ship carrying a diplomat on a mission of peace. There was no warning or provocation. Furthermore, agents from the Enterprise have deliberately murdered most of the crew on that ship, as well as the diplomat in question. It is an act of war, and worse, it is straight up treachery. The Klingons, worshiping honor, would perceive this as a Pearl Harbor-style event, and their revenge would only be satisfied by the complete destruction of the Federation. It would be a galactic war in which trillions might die and the entirety of known space would be dramatically destabilized even in the best-case scenario. The only evidence Enterprise would have to prove their non-complicity would be the ship's records and the crew's testimony, proof that the Klingons would never trust even if it hadn't been tampered with, because James Kirk is vocal about his hate of Klingons. And of course, let's not forget that this *is* being orchestrated by some top brass in Starfleet.

Kirk hates the Klingons for personal and professional reasons, but he also understands them. He knows that any hope of proving the innocence of his ship, and of the Federation, would be forfeit in the event that the Enterprise attempts to defend itself or to escape. He is willing to sacrifice his life, his ship and its crew, because that is the only action he can take, under the present circumstances, which might possibly prevent this apocalyptic war. He will permit the Klingons to retaliate uncontested because to do so would subvert the narrative that Kirk ordered the attack out of personal animosity, and the Klingons respected Kirk as a warrior too much to believe he would order such an attack and react that way. Indeed, Kirk is more than happy to surrender himself to the Klingons once presented with the opportunity for the same exact reason he refused to raise shields.

Rather than having a HeroicBSOD, Kirk is demonstrating *the* most legitimate act of heroism of the entire franchise.

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**** FridgeLogic: The Enterprise has just fired on a ship carrying a diplomat on a mission of peace. There was no warning or provocation. Furthermore, agents from the Enterprise have deliberately murdered most of the crew on that ship, as well as the diplomat in question. It is an act of war, and worse, it is straight up treachery. The Klingons, worshiping honor, would perceive this as a Pearl Harbor-style event, and their revenge would only be satisfied by the complete destruction of the Federation. It would be a galactic war in which trillions might die and the entirety of known space would be dramatically destabilized even in the best-case scenario. The only evidence Enterprise would have to prove their non-complicity would be the ship's records and the crew's testimony, proof that the Klingons would never trust even if it hadn't been tampered with, because James Kirk is vocal about his hate of Klingons. And of course, let's not forget that this *is* being orchestrated by some top brass in Starfleet.

Starfleet. Kirk hates the Klingons for personal and professional reasons, but he also understands them. He knows that any hope of proving the innocence of his ship, and of the Federation, would be forfeit in the event that the Enterprise attempts to defend itself or to escape. He is willing to sacrifice his life, his ship and its crew, because that is the only action he can take, under the present circumstances, which might possibly prevent this apocalyptic war. He will permit the Klingons to retaliate uncontested because to do so would subvert the narrative that Kirk ordered the attack out of personal animosity, and the Klingons respected Kirk as a warrior too much to believe he would order such an attack and react that way. Indeed, Kirk is more than happy to surrender himself to the Klingons once presented with the opportunity for the same exact reason he refused to raise shields. \n\n Rather than having a HeroicBSOD, Kirk is demonstrating *the* most legitimate act of heroism of the entire franchise.
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27th Dec '15 5:17:49 AM rtan
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**** FridgeLogic: The Enterprise has just fired on a ship carrying a diplomat on a mission of peace. There was no warning or provocation. Furthermore, agents from the Enterprise have deliberately murdered most of the crew on that ship, as well as the diplomat in question. It is an act of war, and worse, it is straight up treachery. The Klingons, worshiping honor, would perceive this as a Pearl Harbor-style event, and their revenge would only be satisfied by the complete destruction of the Federation. It would be a galactic war in which trillions might die and the entirety of known space would be dramatically destabilized even in the best-case scenario. The only evidence Enterprise would have to prove their non-complicity would be the ship's records and the crew's testimony, proof that the Klingons would never trust even if it hadn't been tampered with, because James Kirk is vocal about his hate of Klingons. And of course, let's not forget that this *is* being orchestrated by some top brass in Starfleet.

Kirk hates the Klingons for personal and professional reasons, but he also understands them. He knows that any hope of proving the innocence of his ship, and of the Federation, would be forfeit in the event that the Enterprise attempts to defend itself or to escape. He is willing to sacrifice his life, his ship and its crew, because that is the only action he can take, under the present circumstances, which might possibly prevent this apocalyptic war. He will permit the Klingons to retaliate uncontested because to do so would subvert the narrative that Kirk ordered the attack out of personal animosity, and the Klingons respected Kirk as a warrior too much to believe he would order such an attack and react that way. Indeed, Kirk is more than happy to surrender himself to the Klingons once presented with the opportunity for the same exact reason he refused to raise shields.

Rather than having a HeroicBSOD, Kirk is demonstrating *the* most legitimate act of heroism of the entire franchise.
16th Oct '15 2:53:16 AM WanderingBrowser
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1st Mar '15 5:50:52 PM Premonition45
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Let's take it by series:
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28th Feb '15 10:31:25 PM Premonition45
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