History NightmareFuel / StarTrek

2nd Apr '16 5:59:02 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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** A bit of a fridge example: Since the 1960s, the phaser has represented a sort of holy grail in less-than-lethal weapon engineering; with their ability to subdue an individual ''or'' a crowd instantly with no noticeable lasting health effects. This film, however, makes a plot point of the fact that even phasers on stun are potentially deadly.

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** A bit *** The scene is also a subtle indication of a fridge example: Since General Chang's fanaticism, because Chang was aboard ''Qo'noS One'' at the 1960s, the phaser has represented a sort of holy grail in less-than-lethal weapon engineering; with their ability to subdue an individual ''or'' a crowd instantly with no noticeable lasting health effects. This film, however, makes a plot point time of the fact attack. Considering that even phasers on stun are potentially deadly.''Qo'noS One'' had just sustained heavy damage, and that they were facing a fully-armed and operational Starfleet cruiser commanded by James T. Kirk--a man who eats Klingon battlecruisers as a between-meal snack--the Klingon ship had virtually no chance of winning a firefight with ''Enterprise'', but no reason for them to expect that Kirk wouldn't defend his ship. This means that General Chang wasn't just willing to die for his cause, he ''expected'' to die for it. Keep in mind that this was a plan that ''he was involved in making''. There's something very unsettling about that level of fanaticism.
17th Feb '16 5:57:27 PM hamza678
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8th Jan '16 6:28:37 AM ACW
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7th Jan '16 2:00:04 PM HeraldAlberich
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27th Dec '15 5:18:49 AM rtan
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**** FridgeLogic: The Enterprise has just fired on a ship carrying a diplomat on a mission of peace. There was no warning or provocation. Furthermore, agents from the Enterprise have deliberately murdered most of the crew on that ship, as well as the diplomat in question. It is an act of war, and worse, it is straight up treachery. The Klingons, worshiping honor, would perceive this as a Pearl Harbor-style event, and their revenge would only be satisfied by the complete destruction of the Federation. It would be a galactic war in which trillions might die and the entirety of known space would be dramatically destabilized even in the best-case scenario. The only evidence Enterprise would have to prove their non-complicity would be the ship's records and the crew's testimony, proof that the Klingons would never trust even if it hadn't been tampered with, because James Kirk is vocal about his hate of Klingons. And of course, let's not forget that this *is* being orchestrated by some top brass in Starfleet.

Kirk hates the Klingons for personal and professional reasons, but he also understands them. He knows that any hope of proving the innocence of his ship, and of the Federation, would be forfeit in the event that the Enterprise attempts to defend itself or to escape. He is willing to sacrifice his life, his ship and its crew, because that is the only action he can take, under the present circumstances, which might possibly prevent this apocalyptic war. He will permit the Klingons to retaliate uncontested because to do so would subvert the narrative that Kirk ordered the attack out of personal animosity, and the Klingons respected Kirk as a warrior too much to believe he would order such an attack and react that way. Indeed, Kirk is more than happy to surrender himself to the Klingons once presented with the opportunity for the same exact reason he refused to raise shields.

Rather than having a HeroicBSOD, Kirk is demonstrating *the* most legitimate act of heroism of the entire franchise.

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**** FridgeLogic: The Enterprise has just fired on a ship carrying a diplomat on a mission of peace. There was no warning or provocation. Furthermore, agents from the Enterprise have deliberately murdered most of the crew on that ship, as well as the diplomat in question. It is an act of war, and worse, it is straight up treachery. The Klingons, worshiping honor, would perceive this as a Pearl Harbor-style event, and their revenge would only be satisfied by the complete destruction of the Federation. It would be a galactic war in which trillions might die and the entirety of known space would be dramatically destabilized even in the best-case scenario. The only evidence Enterprise would have to prove their non-complicity would be the ship's records and the crew's testimony, proof that the Klingons would never trust even if it hadn't been tampered with, because James Kirk is vocal about his hate of Klingons. And of course, let's not forget that this *is* being orchestrated by some top brass in Starfleet.

Starfleet. Kirk hates the Klingons for personal and professional reasons, but he also understands them. He knows that any hope of proving the innocence of his ship, and of the Federation, would be forfeit in the event that the Enterprise attempts to defend itself or to escape. He is willing to sacrifice his life, his ship and its crew, because that is the only action he can take, under the present circumstances, which might possibly prevent this apocalyptic war. He will permit the Klingons to retaliate uncontested because to do so would subvert the narrative that Kirk ordered the attack out of personal animosity, and the Klingons respected Kirk as a warrior too much to believe he would order such an attack and react that way. Indeed, Kirk is more than happy to surrender himself to the Klingons once presented with the opportunity for the same exact reason he refused to raise shields. \n\n Rather than having a HeroicBSOD, Kirk is demonstrating *the* most legitimate act of heroism of the entire franchise.
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27th Dec '15 5:17:49 AM rtan
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**** FridgeLogic: The Enterprise has just fired on a ship carrying a diplomat on a mission of peace. There was no warning or provocation. Furthermore, agents from the Enterprise have deliberately murdered most of the crew on that ship, as well as the diplomat in question. It is an act of war, and worse, it is straight up treachery. The Klingons, worshiping honor, would perceive this as a Pearl Harbor-style event, and their revenge would only be satisfied by the complete destruction of the Federation. It would be a galactic war in which trillions might die and the entirety of known space would be dramatically destabilized even in the best-case scenario. The only evidence Enterprise would have to prove their non-complicity would be the ship's records and the crew's testimony, proof that the Klingons would never trust even if it hadn't been tampered with, because James Kirk is vocal about his hate of Klingons. And of course, let's not forget that this *is* being orchestrated by some top brass in Starfleet.

Kirk hates the Klingons for personal and professional reasons, but he also understands them. He knows that any hope of proving the innocence of his ship, and of the Federation, would be forfeit in the event that the Enterprise attempts to defend itself or to escape. He is willing to sacrifice his life, his ship and its crew, because that is the only action he can take, under the present circumstances, which might possibly prevent this apocalyptic war. He will permit the Klingons to retaliate uncontested because to do so would subvert the narrative that Kirk ordered the attack out of personal animosity, and the Klingons respected Kirk as a warrior too much to believe he would order such an attack and react that way. Indeed, Kirk is more than happy to surrender himself to the Klingons once presented with the opportunity for the same exact reason he refused to raise shields.

Rather than having a HeroicBSOD, Kirk is demonstrating *the* most legitimate act of heroism of the entire franchise.
16th Oct '15 2:53:16 AM WanderingBrowser
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1st Mar '15 5:50:52 PM Premonition45
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28th Feb '15 10:31:25 PM Premonition45
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* NightmareFuel/StarTrekEnterprise
28th Feb '15 10:30:20 PM Premonition45
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* The Xindi [[BugWar Insectoids]] are enormous [[SerkisFolk computer-animated]] ants. Industrial Light and Magic gives us all the detail on them you'll ever want and then some.
* There was also the automated repair station that turned out to kidnap crew members and fake their deaths so it could [[PoweredByAForsakenChild use their brains in its computers.]] Archer blows it up in the end... but the final scene is it beginning to put itself back together.
* Worst of all, though, is the ''much'' more graphic portrayal of what happens to victims of ExplosiveInstrumentation. When the ship gets attacked, other Treks have the StarTrekShake and the occasional sooty HesDeadJim person. ''Enterprise'' has things like people on fire and screaming, or crewmen blown out into space when the hull is breached, twitching for a bit, and then stopping.
* Most of the episode "Strange New World" was creepy, but the worst was when they beamed up the crewman during a storm [[spoiler: and he materialized with sticks and debris embedded in his face and body.]]
* ''Singularity'' seems like a "Naked Time"-ish episode, where everyone is obsessed with tiny tasks and becomes extremely agitated. T'Pol is unaffected, so she goes to check if Doctor Phlox is also all right. He isn't. [[spoiler: He has become so obsessed with Mayweather's headache that he's going to vivisect his brain, seeming ''identical'' to the MirrorUniverse Phlox, and threatens to kill T'Pol for getting in the way of his experiments.]]
* In Doctor's Orders Phlox experiences hallucinations whilst he and T'Pol are the only member of the crew awake for a trip through radiation that is dangerous to humans. At the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Phlox was hallucinating T'Pol as well. She was really sleeping along with the rest of the crew.]]
* The above two examples, his decision to support genocide in "Dear Doctor" and his Mirror Universe counterpart being one of the ''least'' radically different in terms of personality, has lead more than one viewer [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation to suggest]] that Phlox is actually a [[MadScientist dangerous nut]], seconds away from [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope cracking]] and going on a killing spree!
* ''In a Mirror, Darkly'' takes the agony booth and shows what prolonged exposure can do to a person. Mirror Archer is apparently insane after ten hours in Phlox's invention; it's just that the culture's so toxic nobody can tell, and even if anyone can tell, they dare not say so aloud; [[spoiler:with Forrest dead, ''he's'' now captain]].
* "The Exile." Think serial-killer drama combined with "Beauty and the Beast." First, Tarquin tries to entice Hoshi with a form he thinks will be attractive to her... while whispering in her skull, making her hallucinate him on all the viewscreens in the lab, and generally causing her to think that she's losing her mind. (Again.) When he does make contact, he makes her stay in his house in exchange for his help and demonstrates that he's been rifling through her memories to the smallest detail--never once asking her permission to do this, even her more painful memories--and tries using them to convince her to stay. When that fails and she finds the graves of his previous "companions," he creates an illusion of Archer essentially ordering her to stay and then attacks ''Enterprise'' itself. She has to threaten to break his telepathy amplifier to make him let her go. FreudianExcuse or not, that is some major league creepiness.
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