History NightmareFuel / ShinMegamiTenseiIV

10th Aug '16 3:19:54 PM Trevorg2000
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* The Ashura-Kai building and the secret of how they make Red. [[spoiler:The demand's up and the women (which they openly call ''[[FridgeHorror bree]][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil ders]]'') just can't cope, ''[[MoralEventHorizon so they want to start using the children]]''--and if you go to the Roppongi Hills early, the doorkeeper flat-out says that if you want to join the Ashura-Kai, you either need a recommendation or need to bring ''three fresh kids''. The slaves there are imprisoned in tiny, bloodstained rooms with buckets of filth in inhuman conditions, brainwashed to love Tayama (a girl comments she once told Tayama she loved him and hoped to be his wife, ''and the asshole told her "Age is no barrier to love"''), used as seedbeds, and having their neurotransmitters ''harvested''. There are people strapped to chairs and treated like livestock, nearly mindless, as they have the ingredients for Red extracted. ''Friggin' Lilith'' herself is disgusted by this. As is, well, ''everyone''. Law, Chaos, Neutral. They ''all'' find Tayama disgusting.]]

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* The Ashura-Kai building and the secret of how they make Red. [[spoiler:The demand's up and the women (which they openly call ''[[FridgeHorror bree]][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil ders]]'') just can't cope, ''[[MoralEventHorizon so they want to start using the children]]''--and if you go to the Roppongi Hills early, the doorkeeper flat-out says that if you want to join the Ashura-Kai, you either need a recommendation or need to bring ''three fresh kids''. The slaves there are imprisoned in tiny, bloodstained rooms with buckets of filth in inhuman conditions, brainwashed to love Tayama (a girl comments she once told Tayama she loved him and hoped to be his wife, ''and the asshole told her "Age "[[PaedoHunt Age is no barrier to love"''), love]]"''), used as seedbeds, and having their neurotransmitters ''harvested''. There are people strapped to chairs and treated like livestock, nearly mindless, as they have the ingredients for Red extracted. ''Friggin' Lilith'' herself is disgusted by this. As is, well, ''everyone''. Law, Chaos, Neutral. They ''all'' find Tayama disgusting.]]
17th Apr '16 4:17:51 PM ThatBitterTase
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** Even before they are formally introduced, there's this feeling of utter wrongness in the kingdom. The king has been removed from power, and no one bothers to think where he went. The castes are being dissolved, and all of a sudden even the most pampered Luxurors are worrying about physical work. Dissidents and followers of the Black Samurai are disappearing. A man mentions his son was caught at a Sabbath and added to the execution list, and as "expiation", he was given ''another child to raise''. Most demons are gone, and most disturbingly, many people talk about being contacted by "the new rulers" via dreams - dreams that helped ease the transition too smoothly for comfort. And then Sister Gabby ushers you into the Cocoon...

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** Even before they are formally introduced, there's this feeling of utter wrongness in the kingdom. The king has been removed from power, and no one bothers to think where he went. The castes are being dissolved, and all of a sudden even the most pampered Luxurors are worrying about physical work. Dissidents and followers of the Black Samurai are disappearing. A man mentions his son was caught at a Sabbath and added to the execution list, and as "expiation", he was given ''another child to raise''. Most demons are gone, and most disturbingly, many people talk about being contacted by "the new rulers" via dreams - dreams that helped ease the transition too smoothly for comfort. And then Sister Gabby ushers you into the Cocoon...
23rd Sep '15 10:29:44 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!

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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and yet it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!tear through your stomach to escape!
23rd Sep '15 10:28:58 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!
12th Jul '15 3:33:23 PM SuperLlama
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** [[spoiler: Not to mention the White's overjoyed laughter at their own impending destruction should you decide to end everything.]]
30th Jun '15 11:07:17 AM Materioptikon
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* The Law path features [[spoiler:the Samurai, on the angels' orders, effectively purging any and all pieces of Mikado's history--for example, the Obelisk has its epitaphs scratched out, and the statue of Aquila is destroyed as a reminder that the only being they should be worshipping or even at least looking up to is YHVH. [[OrwellianEditor Historical revisionism]] and ruler worship reminiscent of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], anyone?]]

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* The Law path features [[spoiler:the Samurai, on the angels' orders, effectively purging any and all pieces of Mikado's history--for example, the Obelisk has its epitaphs scratched out, and the statue of Aquila is destroyed as a reminder that the only being they should be worshipping or even at least looking up to is YHVH. [[OrwellianEditor Historical revisionism]] and ruler worship reminiscent of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], anyone?]]
26th Jun '15 6:56:16 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[spoiler:Infernal Tokyo]] isn't much better. A lot of ruined, smoking infrastructure, caused by the constant turf wars between the Demonoids. Even Walter, your Chaos-leaning sidekick, is startled at first. While it's at least fairly recognizable compared to [[spoiler:Blasted Tokyo]], it's still [[SceneryGorn horrifying]] to see [[spoiler:Tokyo reduced to fiery rubble.]]
23rd Jun '15 7:04:23 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off in time.

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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in before you can pay off the meantime, debt, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off in time.
23rd Jun '15 7:03:57 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off.

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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off.off in time.
23rd Jun '15 7:03:42 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off.
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