History NightmareFuel / ShinMegamiTenseiIV

17th Apr '16 4:17:51 PM ThatBitterTase
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** Even before they are formally introduced, there's this feeling of utter wrongness in the kingdom. The king has been removed from power, and no one bothers to think where he went. The castes are being dissolved, and all of a sudden even the most pampered Luxurors are worrying about physical work. Dissidents and followers of the Black Samurai are disappearing. A man mentions his son was caught at a Sabbath and added to the execution list, and as "expiation", he was given ''another child to raise''. Most demons are gone, and most disturbingly, many people talk about being contacted by "the new rulers" via dreams - dreams that helped ease the transition too smoothly for comfort. And then Sister Gabby ushers you into the Cocoon...

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** Even before they are formally introduced, there's this feeling of utter wrongness in the kingdom. The king has been removed from power, and no one bothers to think where he went. The castes are being dissolved, and all of a sudden even the most pampered Luxurors are worrying about physical work. Dissidents and followers of the Black Samurai are disappearing. A man mentions his son was caught at a Sabbath and added to the execution list, and as "expiation", he was given ''another child to raise''. Most demons are gone, and most disturbingly, many people talk about being contacted by "the new rulers" via dreams - dreams that helped ease the transition too smoothly for comfort. And then Sister Gabby ushers you into the Cocoon...
23rd Sep '15 10:29:44 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!

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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and yet it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!tear through your stomach to escape!
23rd Sep '15 10:28:58 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!
12th Jul '15 3:33:23 PM SuperLlama
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** [[spoiler: Not to mention the White's overjoyed laughter at their own impending destruction should you decide to end everything.]]
30th Jun '15 11:07:17 AM Materioptikon
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* The Law path features [[spoiler:the Samurai, on the angels' orders, effectively purging any and all pieces of Mikado's history--for example, the Obelisk has its epitaphs scratched out, and the statue of Aquila is destroyed as a reminder that the only being they should be worshipping or even at least looking up to is YHVH. [[OrwellianEditor Historical revisionism]] and ruler worship reminiscent of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], anyone?]]

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* The Law path features [[spoiler:the Samurai, on the angels' orders, effectively purging any and all pieces of Mikado's history--for example, the Obelisk has its epitaphs scratched out, and the statue of Aquila is destroyed as a reminder that the only being they should be worshipping or even at least looking up to is YHVH. [[OrwellianEditor Historical revisionism]] and ruler worship reminiscent of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], anyone?]]
26th Jun '15 6:56:16 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[spoiler:Infernal Tokyo]] isn't much better. A lot of ruined, smoking infrastructure, caused by the constant turf wars between the Demonoids. Even Walter, your Chaos-leaning sidekick, is startled at first. While it's at least fairly recognizable compared to [[spoiler:Blasted Tokyo]], it's still [[SceneryGorn horrifying]] to see [[spoiler:Tokyo reduced to fiery rubble.]]
23rd Jun '15 7:04:23 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off in time.

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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in before you can pay off the meantime, debt, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off in time.
23rd Jun '15 7:03:57 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off.

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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off.off in time.
23rd Jun '15 7:03:42 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you accept his offer but don't have enough Macca, he's willing to bring you back anyway, but you will be in debt to him until you gather enough Macca to pay him. If you die again in the meantime, he'll refuse to revive you again and he'll have your soul tossed into a mountain, the implication being that at this point you don't even deserve a proper afterlife. It's also a bit of AdultFear for those who have ever gotten into debt with some sort of institution but are unable to pay it off.
18th Jun '15 8:34:44 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** During the Lawful Ending, [[spoiler:you commit what is tantamount to genocide on the entire population of Tokyo. Merkabah also forces you to commit HeroicSuicide with him, because the two of you have learned about the "Filth" of Tokyo.]]. Meanwhile in Mikado, [[spoiler:epitaphs are obliterated, the statue of Aquila is destroyed, and any and all forms of education and literature are abolished. The new Mikado is a kingdom where thinking for oneself and any knowledge beyond the worship of the Almighty are forbidden, one where you are not only not allowed to sin, but are ''incapable of it'', just the way the forces of Law want it.]]

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** During the Lawful Ending, [[spoiler:you commit what is tantamount to genocide on the entire population of Tokyo. Merkabah also forces you to commit HeroicSuicide with him, because the two of you have learned about the "Filth" of Tokyo.]]. Meanwhile in Mikado, [[spoiler:epitaphs are obliterated, the statue of Aquila is destroyed, and any and all forms of education and literature are abolished. The new Mikado is a kingdom where thinking for oneself and any knowledge beyond the worship of the Almighty are forbidden, one where you are not only not allowed to sin, but are ''incapable of it'', just the way the forces of Law want it.]]
* The Chaos ending isn't much better either: [[spoiler:As you and Lucifer watch over Mikado, the entire kingdom is shown going up in flames as the demons take over it.
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