History NightmareFuel / ShinMegamiTenseiIV

11th Nov '16 1:27:49 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** During the Lawful Ending, [[spoiler:you commit what is tantamount to genocide on the entire population of Tokyo. Merkabah also forces you to commit HeroicSuicide with him, because the two of you have learned about the "Filth" of Tokyo.]]. Meanwhile in Mikado, [[spoiler:epitaphs are obliterated, the statue of Aquila is destroyed, and any and all forms of education and literature are abolished. The new Mikado is a kingdom where thinking for oneself and any knowledge beyond the worship of the Almighty are forbidden, one where you are not only not allowed to sin, but are ''incapable of it'', just the way the forces of Law want it.]]

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** During the Lawful Ending, [[spoiler:you commit what is tantamount to genocide on the entire population of Tokyo. Merkabah also forces you to commit HeroicSuicide with him, because the two of you have learned about the "Filth" of Tokyo.]]. Meanwhile in Mikado, [[spoiler:epitaphs are obliterated, the statue of Aquila is destroyed, and any and all forms of education and literature are abolished. The new Mikado is a kingdom where thinking for oneself and any knowledge beyond the worship of the Almighty are forbidden, one where you are not only not allowed to sin, but are ''incapable of it'', just the way the forces of Law want it.it; i.e., the forces of Law want to purge [[Literature/TheBible original]] [[HumansAreFlawed sin]].]]
2nd Nov '16 10:32:53 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* For that matter, the Tennozu shelter music is pretty creepy. It also plays in Minami Sunamachi, a part of Tokyo that's deserted save for refugee demons, chock full of poison gas, and [[ParanoiaFuel has one of the 1/256-rate]] [[BonusBoss Fiends]].

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* For that matter, the Tennozu shelter music is pretty creepy. It also plays in Minami Sunamachi, a part of Tokyo that's deserted save for refugee demons, chock full of poison gas, and [[ParanoiaFuel has one of the 1/256-rate]] [[BonusBoss Fiends]]. The music is even creepier in ''Apocalypse'' despite staying unchanged, because both areas have since been [[EmptyRoomPsych stripped of NPCs]] and, with the exception of a single key item you need from Minami Sunamachi for a Challenge Quest, ''nothing of main plot or sidequest relevance happens in either place''.
7th Oct '16 10:04:11 PM Materioptikon
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* Oh, not only that, but take a look at that weird demonic abomination in Lucifer's second form's arm? Pretty scary, right? [[spoiler: [[DemonOfHumanOrigin It's wearing Walter's scarf.]]

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* Oh, not only that, but take a look at that weird demonic abomination in Lucifer's second form's arm? Pretty scary, right? [[spoiler: [[DemonOfHumanOrigin It's wearing Walter's scarf.]]]]]]
6th Oct '16 8:10:36 AM erforce
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*** [[spoiler:This is actually TruthInTelevision. It's a comparatively recent development for Executions to be treated as something to be hidden from the public at large. This can also be seen in PiratesOfTheCaribbean, as well as any WildWest movie with a hanging occurring. It was considered a day out, a time to put on the fancy clothes and gossip with your friends.]]

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*** [[spoiler:This is actually TruthInTelevision. It's a comparatively recent development for Executions to be treated as something to be hidden from the public at large. This can also be seen in PiratesOfTheCaribbean, ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'', as well as any WildWest movie with a hanging occurring. It was considered a day out, a time to put on the fancy clothes and gossip with your friends.]]
28th Sep '16 9:46:43 PM PastryPerson
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* Oh, not only that, but take a look at that weird demonic abomination in Lucifer's second form's arm? Pretty scary, right? [[spoiler: [[DemonOfHumanOrigin It's wearing Walter's scarf.]]
10th Aug '16 3:19:54 PM Trevorg2000
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* The Ashura-Kai building and the secret of how they make Red. [[spoiler:The demand's up and the women (which they openly call ''[[FridgeHorror bree]][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil ders]]'') just can't cope, ''[[MoralEventHorizon so they want to start using the children]]''--and if you go to the Roppongi Hills early, the doorkeeper flat-out says that if you want to join the Ashura-Kai, you either need a recommendation or need to bring ''three fresh kids''. The slaves there are imprisoned in tiny, bloodstained rooms with buckets of filth in inhuman conditions, brainwashed to love Tayama (a girl comments she once told Tayama she loved him and hoped to be his wife, ''and the asshole told her "Age is no barrier to love"''), used as seedbeds, and having their neurotransmitters ''harvested''. There are people strapped to chairs and treated like livestock, nearly mindless, as they have the ingredients for Red extracted. ''Friggin' Lilith'' herself is disgusted by this. As is, well, ''everyone''. Law, Chaos, Neutral. They ''all'' find Tayama disgusting.]]

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* The Ashura-Kai building and the secret of how they make Red. [[spoiler:The demand's up and the women (which they openly call ''[[FridgeHorror bree]][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil ders]]'') just can't cope, ''[[MoralEventHorizon so they want to start using the children]]''--and if you go to the Roppongi Hills early, the doorkeeper flat-out says that if you want to join the Ashura-Kai, you either need a recommendation or need to bring ''three fresh kids''. The slaves there are imprisoned in tiny, bloodstained rooms with buckets of filth in inhuman conditions, brainwashed to love Tayama (a girl comments she once told Tayama she loved him and hoped to be his wife, ''and the asshole told her "Age "[[PaedoHunt Age is no barrier to love"''), love]]"''), used as seedbeds, and having their neurotransmitters ''harvested''. There are people strapped to chairs and treated like livestock, nearly mindless, as they have the ingredients for Red extracted. ''Friggin' Lilith'' herself is disgusted by this. As is, well, ''everyone''. Law, Chaos, Neutral. They ''all'' find Tayama disgusting.]]
17th Apr '16 4:17:51 PM ThatBitterTase
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** Even before they are formally introduced, there's this feeling of utter wrongness in the kingdom. The king has been removed from power, and no one bothers to think where he went. The castes are being dissolved, and all of a sudden even the most pampered Luxurors are worrying about physical work. Dissidents and followers of the Black Samurai are disappearing. A man mentions his son was caught at a Sabbath and added to the execution list, and as "expiation", he was given ''another child to raise''. Most demons are gone, and most disturbingly, many people talk about being contacted by "the new rulers" via dreams - dreams that helped ease the transition too smoothly for comfort. And then Sister Gabby ushers you into the Cocoon...

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** Even before they are formally introduced, there's this feeling of utter wrongness in the kingdom. The king has been removed from power, and no one bothers to think where he went. The castes are being dissolved, and all of a sudden even the most pampered Luxurors are worrying about physical work. Dissidents and followers of the Black Samurai are disappearing. A man mentions his son was caught at a Sabbath and added to the execution list, and as "expiation", he was given ''another child to raise''. Most demons are gone, and most disturbingly, many people talk about being contacted by "the new rulers" via dreams - dreams that helped ease the transition too smoothly for comfort. And then Sister Gabby ushers you into the Cocoon...
23rd Sep '15 10:29:44 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!

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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and yet it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!tear through your stomach to escape!
23rd Sep '15 10:28:58 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** The boss battle with Xi Wangmu starts off as a HopelessBossFight, with the Ring of Gaea attempting to intervene only to get EatenAlive. They're able to wail on her from the inside to weaken her, which, while SugarWiki/{{awesome|Moment}}, is also Nightmare Fuel in and of itself--imagine you've just had a meal and it's still alive and trying to fight its way back out!
12th Jul '15 3:33:23 PM SuperLlama
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** [[spoiler: Not to mention the White's overjoyed laughter at their own impending destruction should you decide to end everything.]]
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