History NightmareFuel / RiseOfTheGuardians

27th Mar '16 10:16:01 AM swimminghome
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* [[spoiler: How about the way Jack died saving his sister? Whilst some state that drowning is a peaceful way to die, the reality of what it does to your body is very brutal and likely to be excruciatingly painful - the amount of intense and damaging pressure applied to the lungs and head in order to hold your breath to stay alive, your lungs soon filled to burst with water against your will, you're panicking for air and even worse, if you're in a frozen lake like Jack was, your body becomes so instantly numb that you can't even move or struggle. Your body just begins to slowly shut down, and there's no hope for you. Now think about this is what Jack endured before he became a Guardian.]]

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* [[spoiler: How about the way Jack died saving his sister? Whilst some state that drowning is a peaceful way to die, the reality of what it does to your body is very brutal and likely to be excruciatingly painful - the amount of intense and damaging pressure applied to the lungs and head in order to hold your breath to stay alive, your lungs soon filled to burst with water against your will, you're panicking for air and even worse, if you're in a frozen lake like Jack was, your body becomes so instantly numb that you can't even move or struggle. Your body just begins to slowly shut down, and there's no hope for you. Now think about how this is what the playful, pure, warm, harmless young man that is Jack endured before he became a Guardian.]]
27th Mar '16 10:14:03 AM swimminghome
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** Leading on from this, Jack's poor younger sister most likely had all of that childlike innocence ripped out from her the second this happened. [[spoiler:After watching her own brother die,]] what would she have done? Would she have run screaming her little heart out back to find someone to help? Considering that she's likely not much older than Jamie, think about the impact this would have had on her. What kind of life would she have lived afterwards?
27th Mar '16 10:11:16 AM swimminghome
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* [[spoiler: How about the way Jack died saving his sister? Whilst some state that drowning is a peaceful way to die, the reality of what it does to your body is very brutal and likely to be excruciatingly painful - the amount of intense and damaging pressure applied to the lungs and head in order to hold your breath to stay alive, your lungs soon filled to burst with water against your will, you're panicking for air and even worse, if you're in a frozen lake like Jack was, your body becomes so instantly numb that you can't even move or struggle. Your body just begins to slowly shut down, and there's no hope for you. Now think about this is what Jack endured before he became a Guardian.]]
23rd Nov '15 11:25:44 PM DuskBlaze
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* It's not nightmare, but it heads in the same direction when you see what happens to the Guardians as they return to their mortal forms more and more. Bunnymund turns into a normal bunny, Tooth Fairy's wings moult and fail, and you can actively see her trying and failing to fly, and Santa is the worst of all, as he is no longer strong and powerful, but a tired old man. You can almost hear those bones creak.

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* It's not nightmare, but it heads in the same direction when you see what happens to the Guardians as they return to their mortal forms more and more. Bunnymund turns into a normal bunny, Tooth Fairy's wings moult and fail, and you can actively see her trying and failing to fly, and Santa is the worst of all, as he is no longer strong and powerful, but a tired old man. You can almost hear those bones creak.creak.
* Just before North launches into his speech about the center and wonder, the door locks behind Frost and North simply ''towers'' over Jack for a moment. Amongst all his laughing and jokes, it's surprisingly easy to forget that North can be a very terrifying man when he wants to be.
24th Feb '15 7:11:19 PM Sandangel89
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** Jack trying desperately to come help him, flying as fast as he possibly can, makes it all the worse. He originally didn't even want to be part of this, and now...
16th Oct '14 5:27:04 PM Tightwire
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* Considering that the villain is the Boogeyman, this isn't surprising. However, in the books, Pitch's main forces are the fearlings - essentially TheHeartless. They are also noticeably absent from the movie. [[spoiler:At the end of the film, however, Pitch tells Jamie and the Guardians (and Jack) that "there are other ways to snuff out the light". Fearlings were once children from all over the universe - Pitch likely intends to turn Jamie into a fearling. At then end of the movie as well, Pitch lunges at Jamie, only to pass, unseen, through him. Jamie is lucky he avoided a FateWorseThanDeath.]]



* In the same scene where [[spoiler:Sandy dies]], when Jack attacks Pitch's nightmare sand with his ice powers. The resulting collision is HUGE. The camera even pans out to fully see the magnitude of the thing. It alternately doubles as a CMOA.



* It's not nightmare, but it heads in the same direction when you see what happens to the Guardians as they return to their mortal forms more and more. Bunnymund turns into a normal bunny, Tooth Fairy's wings moult and you can actively see her trying and failing to fly, and Santa is the worst of all, as he is no longer strong and powerful, but a tired old man. You can almost hear those bones creak.

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* It's not nightmare, but it heads in the same direction when you see what happens to the Guardians as they return to their mortal forms more and more. Bunnymund turns into a normal bunny, Tooth Fairy's wings moult and fail, and you can actively see her trying and failing to fly, and Santa is the worst of all, as he is no longer strong and powerful, but a tired old man. You can almost hear those bones creak.
16th Oct '14 5:26:17 PM Tightwire
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* If you think too hard about it [[spoiler: Jack, being the least believeable of Guardians (seriously, everything he does is explained early on to a lot of children by the tilt of the earth's axis and whatnot) is ''really'' susceptible to a lack of belief. Tooth loses her flight, Bunny becomes cute, but useless, so what happens to Jack? Does he become a frozen corpse?]]
16th Oct '14 5:25:27 PM Tightwire
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* [[spoiler: The brief glimpse of the expression Jack gets when Pitch breaks his staff. Made especially awful considering he never looks like that at any other point, even after attempting to fight Pitch off and plunging from what appears to be a few hundred stories up. It's easy to imagine that Pitch could have probably made that much worse...]]
** [[spoiler: It physically pains Jack when his staff is broken, enough that he can't react when Pitch throws him into the side of a glacier. Yikes, no wonder he never lets go of the thing.]]
** [[spoiler:This could be considered a mild form of {{Synchronization}}.]]



* Pitch [[spoiler: being forcibly dragged, kicking and screaming, back underground by his own fears at the end.]]



** Pitch's lair looks a lot like a FilmNoir, considering how colorless and shadowy it is.
** Pitch taunting Jack with his memories and in the midst of it, we see numerous shadows of Pitch circling Jack along the walls like sharks.
*** Jack begging him to stop doesn't help matters, either.
* The entire scene in Pitch's lair counts as Nightmare Fuel in and of itself. [[spoiler: Jack, our usually flippant, sarcastic and witty hero who always has a comeback, is rendered absolutely ''terrified'' by Pitch's CirclingMonologue BreakThemByTalking speech, to the point of ''begging'' Pitch to stop it. The whole atmosphere is claustrophobic with the circling shark look mentioned above, and Jack being the AudienceSurrogate we immediately feel powerless. Not to mention the FridgeHorror that this might actually be how he's felt for the past few centuries in isolation and Pitch is just widening the cracks.]]
* [[spoiler:So your brother just saved you from falling through thin ice? That's great! You're safe now! Everything will be fine! Then you watch said older brother fall through himself, know he will drown and die because you can't help him and there's no one else around, and ''his body is never found'' because he turns into an invisible winter spirit. Also doubles as a TearJerker.]]
** To twist the screw, [[spoiler:even if she could not see him, Jack could have written something nice on her window if she had glass, or any liquid filled pot if she didn't. Just a bit a reassurance that he did not blame her. But no message was ever sent, because for unknown reasons, the fairies were unaware of Jack's amnesia. He never got to tell his sister goodbye.]]

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** Pitch's lair looks a lot like a FilmNoir, considering how colorless and shadowy it is.
** Pitch taunting Jack with his memories and in the midst of it, we see numerous shadows of Pitch circling Jack along the walls like sharks.
*** Jack begging him to stop doesn't help matters, either.
* The entire scene in Pitch's lair counts as Nightmare Fuel in and of itself. [[spoiler: Jack, our usually flippant, sarcastic and witty hero who always has a comeback, is rendered absolutely ''terrified'' by Pitch's CirclingMonologue BreakThemByTalking speech, to the point of ''begging'' Pitch to stop it. The whole atmosphere is claustrophobic with the circling shark look mentioned above, and Jack being the AudienceSurrogate we immediately feel powerless. Not to mention the FridgeHorror that this might actually be how he's felt for the past few centuries in isolation and Pitch is just widening the cracks.]]
* [[spoiler:So your brother just saved you from falling through thin ice? That's great! You're safe now! Everything will be fine! Then you watch said older brother fall through himself, know he will drown and die because you can't help him and there's no one else around, and ''his body is never found'' because he turns into an invisible winter spirit. Also doubles as a TearJerker.]]
** To twist the screw, [[spoiler:even if she could not see him, Jack could have written something nice on her window if she had glass, or any liquid filled pot if she didn't. Just a bit a reassurance that he did not blame her. But no message was ever sent, because for unknown reasons, the fairies were unaware of Jack's amnesia. He never got to tell his sister goodbye.]]



** [[spoiler:North's was probably the worse. He doesn't just lose his powers; he becomes the old man he's supposed to be, completely sapped of his energy and barely being able to get around without using his sword as a cane. It's horrifying ''and'' depressing!]]
* You thought Pitch in the film was scary? HAH! Look at some [[http://rufftoon.tumblr.com/post/41565341085/animationtidbits-rise-of-the-guardians-shane#notes early concept art of him.]]

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** [[spoiler:North's was probably the worse. He doesn't just lose his powers; he becomes the old man he's supposed to be, completely sapped of his energy and barely being able to get around without using his sword as a cane. It's horrifying ''and'' depressing!]]
* You thought Pitch in the film was scary? HAH! Look at some [[http://rufftoon.tumblr.com/post/41565341085/animationtidbits-rise-of-the-guardians-shane#notes early concept art of him.]]]]
* It's not nightmare, but it heads in the same direction when you see what happens to the Guardians as they return to their mortal forms more and more. Bunnymund turns into a normal bunny, Tooth Fairy's wings moult and you can actively see her trying and failing to fly, and Santa is the worst of all, as he is no longer strong and powerful, but a tired old man. You can almost hear those bones creak.
10th Oct '14 3:13:50 PM SaramarCar
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* Pitch's lair could be considered NightmareFuel in an atmospheric sense. Located in a hole in the ground, it is a drab, dull and colorless environment that is absolutely joyless compared to all the other environments in the film. And Pitch could be lurking in any shadow . . . .

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* Pitch's lair could be considered NightmareFuel in an atmospheric sense. Located in a hole in the ground, it is a drab, dull and colorless environment that is absolutely joyless compared to all the other environments in the film. And Pitch could be lurking in any shadow . . . .shadow...
4th Jun '14 2:08:55 PM nightshade1218
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** [[spoiler:North's was probably the worse. He doesn't just lose his powers; he becomes the old man he's supposed to be, completely sapped of his energy and barely being able to get around without using his sword as a cane. It's horrifying ''and'' depressing!]]
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