History NightmareFuel / PuellaMagiMadokaMagica

31st Aug '17 6:45:46 PM SeveralCakes
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* What this troper considers to be [[spoiler: Walpurgisnacht's EstablishingCharacterMoment. The skyscraper-sized thing is drifting down through the clouds, fire sprouting up around it, and it lifts its enormous central gear and slams it back down. It really hammers home that this thing is no witch, it's a ''god.'']]

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* What this troper considers to be [[spoiler: Walpurgisnacht's EstablishingCharacterMoment. The skyscraper-sized thing is drifting down through the clouds, fire sprouting up around it, and it lifts its enormous central gear and slams it back down. It really hammers home that this thing is no ordinary witch, it's a ''god.''god among witches.'']]
31st Aug '17 6:43:59 PM SeveralCakes
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* What this troper considers to be [[spoiler: Walpurgisnacht's EstabilshingCharacterMoment. The skyscraper-sized thing is drifting down through the clouds, fire sprouting up around it, and it lifts its enormous central gear and slams it back down. It really hammers home that this thing is no witch, it's a ''god.'']]

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* What this troper considers to be [[spoiler: Walpurgisnacht's EstabilshingCharacterMoment.EstablishingCharacterMoment. The skyscraper-sized thing is drifting down through the clouds, fire sprouting up around it, and it lifts its enormous central gear and slams it back down. It really hammers home that this thing is no witch, it's a ''god.'']]
31st Aug '17 6:43:21 PM SeveralCakes
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* What this troper considers to be [[spoiler: Walpurgisnacht's EstabilshingCharacterMoment. The skyscraper-sized thing is drifting down through the clouds, fire sprouting up around it, and it lifts its enormous central gear and slams it back down. It really hammers home that this thing is no witch, it's a ''god.'']]
26th Aug '17 10:17:35 AM GopherBroke
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*** Even if it were possible for someone to prove that Kyubey was there, there's still some horror in that it would likely be impossible to actually do anything about it. He's likely to continue appearing and manipulating things for a candidate until they ''have'' to accept his offer. At that point, it would be easy for the victim to prove it to their loved ones, but it would also be far too late.
19th Aug '17 6:54:20 AM ReynTime250
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* Though it's definitely on the milder end of the spectrum compared to most of the other NightmareFuel in this series, one scene showing Homura killing Kyubey, only for ''another'' Kyubey to immediately appear in the foreground]] is very creepy in a ParanoiaFuel kind of way. It really hammers home the feeling of hopelessness and fighting the inevitable that Homura is going through.

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* Though it's definitely on the milder end of the spectrum compared to most of the other NightmareFuel in this series, one scene showing Homura killing Kyubey, only for ''another'' Kyubey to immediately appear in the foreground]] foreground is very creepy in a ParanoiaFuel kind of way. It really hammers home the feeling of hopelessness and fighting the inevitable that Homura is going through.



* The universe-ending witch Madoka was unsettling. That enormous EldritchAbomination with two halves of a face? Completely engulfing the earth? Dear ''[[http://i.imgur.com/hL7he33.jpg Madokami.]]'']] Yes, that ''thing'' is Kriemhild Gretchen, the witch form of our adorable protagonist. Every new timeline sees her absorb all the magical energy of the previous universes that Homura has went through, meaning that each time, spoiler:Kriemhild Gretchen is bigger and stronger--way beyond what Walpurgisnacht could ever hope to be. The wish that created that... '''thing''' was infinitely stronger than any other wish, powered by 100+ universes worth of magical potential. There's a reason that version of Kriemhild Gretchen is using ''celestial objects'' for ''eyes''.

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* The universe-ending witch Madoka was unsettling. That enormous EldritchAbomination with two halves of a face? Completely engulfing the earth? Dear ''[[http://i.imgur.com/hL7he33.jpg Madokami.]]'']] ]]'' Yes, that ''thing'' is Kriemhild Gretchen, the witch form of our adorable protagonist. Every new timeline sees her absorb all the magical energy of the previous universes that Homura has went through, meaning that each time, spoiler:Kriemhild Kriemhild Gretchen is bigger and stronger--way beyond what Walpurgisnacht could ever hope to be. The wish that created that... '''thing''' was infinitely stronger than any other wish, powered by 100+ universes worth of magical potential. There's a reason that version of Kriemhild Gretchen is using ''celestial objects'' for ''eyes''.



* There's an event that happens if Charlotte eats Sayaka's Soul Gem and Madoka and Homura, being inexperienced, can't find Charlotte's barrier. We learned in Episode 6 that Soul Gems are [[SoulJar Soul Jars]], and the body is useless without it]]. Add that to the fact that Magical Girls die when they lose contact with their Soul Gems for 2 days, and that's pretty creepy on it's own. They had to make it ''[[UpToEleven even creepier]]'' by adding that spoiler:when a Magical Girl loses contact with her soul gem, she starts to '''decompose'''. Luckily, Kyoko kills Charlotte before Sayaka dies. Happy ending, right? '''Wrong'''. Sayaka's body had already started decomposing before her Soul Gem came back. So she wakes up, unaware of what she looks like, and just happens to meet Kyousuke. Who '''FREAKS. OUT.''']] [[DespairEventHorizon You can guess what happens next.]]

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* There's an event that happens if Charlotte eats Sayaka's Soul Gem and Madoka and Homura, being inexperienced, can't find Charlotte's barrier. We learned in Episode 6 that Soul Gems are [[SoulJar Soul Jars]], and the body is useless without it]].it. Add that to the fact that Magical Girls die when they lose contact with their Soul Gems for 2 days, and that's pretty creepy on it's own. They had to make it ''[[UpToEleven even creepier]]'' by adding that spoiler:when when a Magical Girl loses contact with her soul gem, she starts to '''decompose'''. Luckily, Kyoko kills Charlotte before Sayaka dies. Happy ending, right? '''Wrong'''. Sayaka's body had already started decomposing before her Soul Gem came back. So she wakes up, unaware of what she looks like, and just happens to meet Kyousuke. Who '''FREAKS. OUT.''']] ''' [[DespairEventHorizon You can guess what happens next.]]



* Sayaka's bad end. She has been deprived of her Soul Gem for so long that by the time her friends retrieve it, her body had already started to decompose. She hurries to go see Kyosuke. It does not end well. [[https://images.puella-magi.net/1/1d/Sayaka_rotten_body_PSP_game_shadow.jpg?20120320081828 Her decomposed body is]] [[GoryDiscretionShot not completely shown]], but [[NothingIsScarier that just leaves how nightmarish it is to the imagination]].]]

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* Sayaka's bad end. She has been deprived of her Soul Gem for so long that by the time her friends retrieve it, her body had already started to decompose. She hurries to go see Kyosuke. It does not end well. [[https://images.puella-magi.net/1/1d/Sayaka_rotten_body_PSP_game_shadow.jpg?20120320081828 Her decomposed body is]] [[GoryDiscretionShot not completely shown]], but [[NothingIsScarier that just leaves how nightmarish it is to the imagination]].]]
19th Aug '17 6:50:52 AM ReynTime250
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* There's a brief moment where Kyubey is just sitting in the shadows watching everyone. Sure this was before [[spoiler:we found out that he's the villain]] but that doesn't stop it from being [[ParanoiaFuel scarily paranoia inducing]].

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* There's a brief moment where Kyubey is just sitting in the shadows watching everyone. Sure this was before [[spoiler:we we found out that he's the villain]] villain but that doesn't stop it from being [[ParanoiaFuel scarily paranoia inducing]].



* [[spoiler:Mami's death. Her head is bitten off by a [[OneWingedAngel monstered-out Charlotte]], shortly before the rest of her is eaten as well.]]

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* [[spoiler:Mami's Mami's death. Her head is bitten off by a [[OneWingedAngel monstered-out Charlotte]], shortly before the rest of her is eaten as well.]]



** And then Homura [[spoiler:blows up Charlotte]] and we get treated to the sight of [[spoiler:a pile of fleshy goo]] landing on the table next to her. That's right, it's [[spoiler:a half-digested Mami]]...

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** And then Homura [[spoiler:blows blows up Charlotte]] Charlotte and we get treated to the sight of [[spoiler:a pile of fleshy goo]] landing on the table next to her. That's right, it's [[spoiler:a a half-digested Mami]]...Mami...



* Madoka is drawn into Elly's barrier... by being torn apart and drawn into the barrier, ''piece by piece'' through several monitors, before being reconstituted within. If that wasn't enough, Elly preys on Madoka's grief by [[spoiler:replaying Mami's death over and over]], to convince her to give up as she's stretched and nearly torn apart for good. Lovely little BodyHorror there, all pictured in this folder. For a change, all of these horrors are strangely absent from the manga.

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* Madoka is drawn into Elly's barrier... by being torn apart and drawn into the barrier, ''piece by piece'' through several monitors, before being reconstituted within. If that wasn't enough, Elly preys on Madoka's grief by [[spoiler:replaying replaying Mami's death over and over]], over, to convince her to give up as she's stretched and nearly torn apart for good. Lovely little BodyHorror there, all pictured in this folder. For a change, all of these horrors are strangely absent from the manga.



** [[spoiler:Kyubey]] sees absolutely nothing wrong with this, because [[spoiler:as he puts it, this way their bodies can't die so long as their Soul Gem remains intact (though they still age, mature, etc. as evidenced by Kyoko). In summary, "magical girl" here is a fancy term for [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]].]] Considering what magical girls go through, he's probably right. Whether that makes it more or less horrifying is a subjective issue.

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** [[spoiler:Kyubey]] Kyubey sees absolutely nothing wrong with this, because [[spoiler:as as he puts it, this way their bodies can't die so long as their Soul Gem remains intact (though they still age, mature, etc. as evidenced by Kyoko). In summary, "magical girl" here is a fancy term for [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]].]] lich]] Considering what magical girls go through, he's probably right. Whether that makes it more or less horrifying is a subjective issue.



--> '''Kyoko:''' [[spoiler:If all you want is to get a guy to love you, there's better ways of doing it. I mean you've got all these magic powers now. For starters, you could bust in there right now and break his arms and legs so bad, he'll never be able to use 'em again. Make him so helpless he won't be able to do anything without you. You do that and he really will be yours and yours alone. Both his body ''and'' his soul. How about this, if you don't got the stomach for it, I could always mess him up for ya like a favor between magical girls. It'd be really easy to do.]]

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--> '''Kyoko:''' [[spoiler:If If all you want is to get a guy to love you, there's better ways of doing it. I mean you've got all these magic powers now. For starters, you could bust in there right now and break his arms and legs so bad, he'll never be able to use 'em again. Make him so helpless he won't be able to do anything without you. You do that and he really will be yours and yours alone. Both his body ''and'' his soul. How about this, if you don't got the stomach for it, I could always mess him up for ya like a favor between magical girls. It'd be really easy to do.]]



* In Episode 7, Sayaka is informed by Hitomi that she, too, has feelings for Kyosuke and plans to confess the next day. After she has a good cry about it, Sayaka takes out her frustration on a witch... [[FridgeHorror whose silhouette makes her look vaguely like Hitomi.]]. [[UnstoppableRage Sayaka beats the witch with a ferocity that has never been seen before]], [[LaughingMad laughing maniacally all the while.]] Much like [[spoiler:Mami's death]], this is ''also'' worse in the [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/7/31 manga]].

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* In Episode 7, Sayaka is informed by Hitomi that she, too, has feelings for Kyosuke and plans to confess the next day. After she has a good cry about it, Sayaka takes out her frustration on a witch... [[FridgeHorror whose silhouette makes her look vaguely like Hitomi.]]. [[UnstoppableRage Sayaka beats the witch with a ferocity that has never been seen before]], [[LaughingMad laughing maniacally all the while.]] Much like [[spoiler:Mami's death]], Mami's death, this is ''also'' worse in the [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/7/31 manga]].



-->'''Sayaka:''' ''[LaughingMad]'' It's true! I ''can'' block out the pain! '''[[spoiler:[[IronicEcho I don't feel any pain anymore!]]]]'''

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-->'''Sayaka:''' ''[LaughingMad]'' It's true! I ''can'' block out the pain! '''[[spoiler:[[IronicEcho '''[[IronicEcho I don't feel any pain anymore!]]]]'''anymore!]]'''



* Kyoko's backstory was drawn up as a puppet show. The stick figures added to some really creepy imagery and especially the burning scene which was accompanied by [[spoiler:a scene of her father hanging himself]].

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* Kyoko's backstory was drawn up as a puppet show. The stick figures added to some really creepy imagery and especially the burning scene which was accompanied by [[spoiler:a a scene of her father hanging himself]].himself.



* After [[spoiler:Homura guns Kyubey down, a second Kyubey appears and ''devours the corpse of the first one.'']] If that didn't frighten you, then Kyubey's last line of the episode should.
-->'''Kyubey:''' [[spoiler:On this planet, you call females who have yet to become adults "girls". It makes sense, then, that since you'll eventually become witches, you should be called "magical girls".]]
* [[spoiler:Sayaka's transformation into Oktavia von Seckendorff. This was the exact point where Madoka Magica stopped being a Magical Girl anime. Mamiís death? Shocking and brutal, but it was still, fundamentally, a Magical Girl anime: albeit one that got more into depth about the fact that yes, they are fighting monsters that can, in fact, kill them. Magical Girls are basically liches? A dark take on the whole TransformationTrinket thing, but still, it didnít change the basic idea that they were empowered kids who fight monsters. Again, it remained fundamentally a Magical Girl anime. Sayaka turning into a witch? This was the point that any illusions of this being simply a dark, gritty Magical Girl anime fell apart completely. The point where the anime went from dark, gritty Sailor Moon to H. P. Lovecraftís finest CosmicHorrorStory. This is where the audience realized that Kyubey wasnít simply a creepy version of Kero or Luna. Heís a creature beyond human comprehension, and we are his goddamned ''cattle''. The reveal that Magical Girls become Witches marked the point that the story went from dark to '''hopeless.''']]

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* After [[spoiler:Homura Homura guns Kyubey down, a second Kyubey appears and ''devours the corpse of the first one.'']] '' If that didn't frighten you, then Kyubey's last line of the episode should.
-->'''Kyubey:''' [[spoiler:On On this planet, you call females who have yet to become adults "girls". It makes sense, then, that since you'll eventually become witches, you should be called "magical girls".]]
girls".
* [[spoiler:Sayaka's Sayaka's transformation into Oktavia von Seckendorff. This was the exact point where Madoka Magica stopped being a Magical Girl anime. Mamiís death? Shocking and brutal, but it was still, fundamentally, a Magical Girl anime: albeit one that got more into depth about the fact that yes, they are fighting monsters that can, in fact, kill them. Magical Girls are basically liches? A dark take on the whole TransformationTrinket thing, but still, it didnít change the basic idea that they were empowered kids who fight monsters. Again, it remained fundamentally a Magical Girl anime. Sayaka turning into a witch? This was the point that any illusions of this being simply a dark, gritty Magical Girl anime fell apart completely. The point where the anime went from dark, gritty Sailor Moon to H. P. Lovecraftís finest CosmicHorrorStory. This is where the audience realized that Kyubey wasnít simply a creepy version of Kero or Luna. Heís a creature beyond human comprehension, and we are his goddamned ''cattle''. The reveal that Magical Girls become Witches marked the point that the story went from dark to '''hopeless.''']]'''



* Seeing Kyubey [[spoiler:[[http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/I_am_Latia/HOLEyshit.gif riddled full of bullet holes]]]]. [[spoiler:He's fine though. Unfortunately.]]

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* Seeing Kyubey [[spoiler:[[http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/I_am_Latia/HOLEyshit.gif riddled full of bullet holes]]]]. [[spoiler:He's He's fine though. Unfortunately.]]



* Sayaka is alone in a train compartment with two men who are badmouthing the girlfriend of one. She gets up and, in a scene that wouldn't be out of place in [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]], asks them to [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/8/20 tell her about the girl, then suddenly wondering why she should protect guys who act the way they do]]. She transforms into a magical girl and...[[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/8/21 nothing]]. The two men are gone and it is ''heavily'' implied that Sayaka killed them. [[NothingIsScarier We don't see anything...]] What's worse, there're multiple [[WordOfGod Gods]] in this work, and they each have a different opinion on this issue. Producer Shinbo said Sayaka [[spoiler:did ''not'' kill them in the anime]]. Hanokage says [[spoiler:she did]] in the manga, and writer Urobuchi says [[spoiler:it's deliberately ambiguous]].
** It's even creepier when you pay closer attention to [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/8/21 the center panel]]. [[spoiler:There are blood stains trailing behind her sword]]. Yeah... a reminder to those who think of [[MagicalGirl Magical Girls]] as just cute and pretty. Being warriors, their magic is aimed at KILLING, not just flash and entertainment... and the target doesn't necessarily have to be other magical beings...
** It's even more upsetting once you know that the guys' dialog ''happened in real life''. Urobuchi heard two guys talking like that while he was on the train (albeit he said that the anime dialog was a short version of what they talked about because they talked a lot). [[spoiler:What if magical girls actually exist and Urobuchi told a story where a magical girl killed two dudes?]]

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* Sayaka is alone in a train compartment with two men who are badmouthing the girlfriend of one. She gets up and, in a scene that wouldn't be out of place in [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]], asks them to [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/8/20 tell her about the girl, then suddenly wondering why she should protect guys who act the way they do]]. She transforms into a magical girl and...[[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/8/21 nothing]]. The two men are gone and it is ''heavily'' implied that Sayaka killed them. [[NothingIsScarier We don't see anything...]] What's worse, there're multiple [[WordOfGod Gods]] in this work, and they each have a different opinion on this issue. Producer Shinbo said Sayaka [[spoiler:did did ''not'' kill them in the anime]]. anime. Hanokage says [[spoiler:she did]] she did in the manga, and writer Urobuchi says [[spoiler:it's it's deliberately ambiguous]].
ambiguous.
** It's even creepier when you pay closer attention to [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magica/8/21 the center panel]]. [[spoiler:There There are blood stains trailing behind her sword]].sword. Yeah... a reminder to those who think of [[MagicalGirl Magical Girls]] as just cute and pretty. Being warriors, their magic is aimed at KILLING, not just flash and entertainment... and the target doesn't necessarily have to be other magical beings...
** It's even more upsetting once you know that the guys' dialog ''happened in real life''. Urobuchi heard two guys talking like that while he was on the train (albeit he said that the anime dialog was a short version of what they talked about because they talked a lot). [[spoiler:What What if magical girls actually exist and Urobuchi told a story where a magical girl killed two dudes?]]dudes?



* [[spoiler:The battle against Oktavia. All of it; a human girl transformed into a monster; the EldritchLocation nature of the barrier, Madoka desperately calling out to her friend only to be attacked.]]
* [[spoiler:Oktavia '''screaming with Sayaka's voice'''.]]
* The line about using humans as a energy source (with a cheerful voice and innocent smile on his face) was terrifying. "[[AMillionIsAStatistic With a current population of 6.9 billion, which increases by a rate of 10 every 4 seconds, it's a mystery why you would care so much about the loss of a tiny handful.]]". Then bluntly stating that it is desirable that the girls [[spoiler:change into witches]] as soon as possible, for the sake of the universe.
-->''"So if you ever feel like [[spoiler:dying for the sake of the universe]], call me. I'll be waiting."''

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* [[spoiler:The The battle against Oktavia. All of it; a human girl transformed into a monster; the EldritchLocation nature of the barrier, Madoka desperately calling out to her friend only to be attacked.]]
attacked.
* [[spoiler:Oktavia Oktavia '''screaming with Sayaka's voice'''.]]
voice'''.
* The line about using humans as a energy source (with a cheerful voice and innocent smile on his face) was terrifying. "[[AMillionIsAStatistic With a current population of 6.9 billion, which increases by a rate of 10 every 4 seconds, it's a mystery why you would care so much about the loss of a tiny handful.]]". Then bluntly stating that it is desirable that the girls [[spoiler:change change into witches]] witches as soon as possible, for the sake of the universe.
-->''"So if you ever feel like [[spoiler:dying dying for the sake of the universe]], universe, call me. I'll be waiting."''



* [[spoiler:Madoka, now Kriemhild Gretchen, is '''not''' simply a witch; and Walpurgisnacht (easily the most powerful witch in the Madoka universe up to this point) is merely a ''blip'' compared to her. She's become something that [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Yui Ikari]] would envy and that [[Manga/HellStarRemina Remina would fear.]]]] To make things even ''worse'', take a look at [[spoiler:her [[http://images.puella-magi.net/c/c5/Card_Kriemhild.png?20110324100002 witch's card]]]]. That thing? That giant, mountainous thing? [[spoiler:That's the witch of [[LetThemDieHappy SALVATION]].]]
** Her definition of "salvation" is strongly rumored to be something like [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Instrumentality]], or even worse, a [[Film/TheMatrix Matrix]]-style LotusEaterMachine. Worldwide happiness is ''so'' much easier once you [[IndividualityIsIllegal remove that pesky "individuality" thing, right?]] [[FridgeHorror It's not such a big step from]] a WideEyedIdealist who wants people to be happy to OmnicidalManiac.
** [[spoiler:When the storm clouds burst from Madoka's Soul Gem and [[http://images.puella-magi.net/9/97/Madoka-witch-first.jpg?20110310174437 form into]] a [[UncannyValley lumpy, amorphous]] shape just ''barely'' resembling her.]]
* Homura's fate is also worth some mention. Specifically, she [[spoiler:constantly goes back in time to prevent Madoka's death/corruption. She has to watch the suffering of Madoka and the other Magical Girls over and over again, and the outcomes are crueler with every timeline. At one point, she was forced to ''[[MercyKill shoot Madoka's Soul Gem]]'' to prevent her transformation into Gretchen. That was ''at Madoka's own request''.]]
* In an interview with the director, he stated the the number of times Homura has re-wound time is [[spoiler:approaching 100. If we consider that Homura left the hospital in the middle of March and Walpurgisnacht appears at the end of April, that means that Homura's been lost in time for about 12 years. In other words, she has been ''at war'' against witches and Kyubey for ''12 years''.]]
* Oktavia's new familiar in the third timeline, Klarissa, raise more FridgeHorror in how they resemble Hitomi. In this timeline, or another one, did Sayaka perhaps threaten, injure, or even ''kill'' her?
* Of all people, [[spoiler:[[CoolBigSis Mami]]]] going through SanitySlippage is pretty chilling. [[spoiler:In one timeline, after failing to rescue Sayaka from her witch form, Mami restrains Homura, and then delivers a MercyKill to Kyoko by shooting her Soul Gem. Then, her end is quickly met after Madoka fires an arrow at Mami's Soul Gem. It's just a straight up minute or so of the remaining Magical Girls losing their minds over their fate and it's just awful and scary to witness.]]
* Though it's definitely on the milder end of the spectrum compared to most of the other NightmareFuel in this series, one scene showing [[spoiler:Homura killing Kyubey, only for ''another'' Kyubey to immediately appear in the foreground]] is very creepy in a ParanoiaFuel kind of way. It really hammers home the feeling of hopelessness and fighting the inevitable that [[spoiler:Homura]] is going through.
* In one timeline we see what it's like to be visited by a witch from a first person [[spoiler:Homura's]] perspective. Sure, she was rescued before anything terrible happened, but it was still creepy as hell. Provides the page image.

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* [[spoiler:Madoka, Madoka, now Kriemhild Gretchen, is '''not''' simply a witch; and Walpurgisnacht (easily the most powerful witch in the Madoka universe up to this point) is merely a ''blip'' compared to her. She's become something that [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Yui Ikari]] would envy and that [[Manga/HellStarRemina Remina would fear.]]]] ]] To make things even ''worse'', take a look at [[spoiler:her her [[http://images.puella-magi.net/c/c5/Card_Kriemhild.png?20110324100002 witch's card]]]]. card]]. That thing? That giant, mountainous thing? [[spoiler:That's That's the witch of [[LetThemDieHappy SALVATION]].]]
SALVATION]].
** Her definition of "salvation" is strongly rumored to be something like [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Instrumentality]], or even worse, a [[Film/TheMatrix Matrix]]-style LotusEaterMachine. Worldwide happiness is ''so'' much easier once you [[IndividualityIsIllegal remove that pesky "individuality" thing, right?]] [[FridgeHorror It's not such a big step from]] a WideEyedIdealist who wants people to be happy to OmnicidalManiac.
right?]]
** [[spoiler:When When the storm clouds burst from Madoka's Soul Gem and [[http://images.puella-magi.net/9/97/Madoka-witch-first.jpg?20110310174437 form into]] a [[UncannyValley lumpy, amorphous]] shape just ''barely'' resembling her.]]
her.
* Homura's fate is also worth some mention. Specifically, she [[spoiler:constantly constantly goes back in time to prevent Madoka's death/corruption. She has to watch the suffering of Madoka and the other Magical Girls over and over again, and the outcomes are crueler with every timeline. At one point, she was forced to ''[[MercyKill shoot Madoka's Soul Gem]]'' to prevent her transformation into Gretchen. That was ''at Madoka's own request''.]]
request''.
* In an interview with the director, he stated the the number of times Homura has re-wound time is [[spoiler:approaching approaching 100. If we consider that Homura left the hospital in the middle of March and Walpurgisnacht appears at the end of April, that means that Homura's been lost in time for about 12 years. In other words, she has been ''at war'' against witches and Kyubey for ''12 years''.]]
* Oktavia's new familiar in the third timeline, Klarissa, raise more FridgeHorror in how they resemble Hitomi. In this timeline, or another one, did Sayaka perhaps threaten, injure, or even ''kill'' her?
years''.
* Of all people, [[spoiler:[[CoolBigSis Mami]]]] [[CoolBigSis Mami]] going through SanitySlippage is pretty chilling. [[spoiler:In In one timeline, after failing to rescue Sayaka from her witch form, Mami restrains Homura, and then delivers a MercyKill to Kyoko by shooting her Soul Gem. Then, her end is quickly met after Madoka fires an arrow at Mami's Soul Gem. It's just a straight up minute or so of the remaining Magical Girls losing their minds over their fate and it's just awful and scary to witness.]]
witness.
* Though it's definitely on the milder end of the spectrum compared to most of the other NightmareFuel in this series, one scene showing [[spoiler:Homura Homura killing Kyubey, only for ''another'' Kyubey to immediately appear in the foreground]] is very creepy in a ParanoiaFuel kind of way. It really hammers home the feeling of hopelessness and fighting the inevitable that [[spoiler:Homura]] Homura is going through.
* In one timeline we see what it's like to be visited by a witch from a first person [[spoiler:Homura's]] Homura's perspective. Sure, she was rescued before anything terrible happened, but it was still creepy as hell. Provides the page image.



* [[spoiler:The universe-ending witch Madoka was unsettling. That enormous EldritchAbomination with two halves of a face? Completely engulfing the earth? Dear ''[[http://i.imgur.com/hL7he33.jpg Madokami.]]'']] Yes, that ''thing'' [[spoiler:is Kriemhild Gretchen, the witch form of our adorable protagonist.]] [[spoiler:Every new timeline]] sees her [[spoiler:absorb all the magical energy of the previous universes that Homura has went through,]] meaning that each time, [[spoiler:Kriemhild Gretchen]] is bigger and stronger--way beyond what [[spoiler:Walpurgisnacht]] could ever hope to be. The wish that created that... '''thing''' was [[spoiler:infinitely stronger than any other wish, powered by 100+ universes worth of magical potential]]. There's a reason that version of [[spoiler:Kriemhild Gretchen]] is using ''celestial objects'' for ''eyes''.
* Sayaka's conspicuous absence from the [[spoiler:scene with Madoka talking with Kyoko and Mami]]. There's so much focus on the suffering and deaths of the magical girls that what happens to the Grief Seeds tends to get overlooked. [[spoiler:She's not there because she's not dead. She's been ''annihilated''. The others were killed because their Soul Gems were broken, but Sayaka became a Witch and was defeated. The Magical Girls don't just ''lose'' their souls; their souls are ''destroyed''.]]
* [[spoiler:The last scene in the series is FridgeHorror. It shows a desert and Homura on her own. This implies that in Madokami's new timeline, the magical girls still lose against the demons and the Earth is left as their personal playground to do with as they please.]]

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* [[spoiler:The The universe-ending witch Madoka was unsettling. That enormous EldritchAbomination with two halves of a face? Completely engulfing the earth? Dear ''[[http://i.imgur.com/hL7he33.jpg Madokami.]]'']] Yes, that ''thing'' [[spoiler:is is Kriemhild Gretchen, the witch form of our adorable protagonist.]] [[spoiler:Every protagonist. Every new timeline]] timeline sees her [[spoiler:absorb absorb all the magical energy of the previous universes that Homura has went through,]] through, meaning that each time, [[spoiler:Kriemhild Gretchen]] spoiler:Kriemhild Gretchen is bigger and stronger--way beyond what [[spoiler:Walpurgisnacht]] Walpurgisnacht could ever hope to be. The wish that created that... '''thing''' was [[spoiler:infinitely infinitely stronger than any other wish, powered by 100+ universes worth of magical potential]]. potential. There's a reason that version of [[spoiler:Kriemhild Gretchen]] Kriemhild Gretchen is using ''celestial objects'' for ''eyes''.
* Sayaka's conspicuous absence from the [[spoiler:scene scene with Madoka talking with Kyoko and Mami]].Mami. There's so much focus on the suffering and deaths of the magical girls that what happens to the Grief Seeds tends to get overlooked. [[spoiler:She's She's not there because she's not dead. She's been ''annihilated''. The others were killed because their Soul Gems were broken, but Sayaka became a Witch and was defeated. The Magical Girls don't just ''lose'' their souls; their souls are ''destroyed''.]]
* [[spoiler:The last scene in the series is FridgeHorror. It shows a desert and Homura on her own. This implies that in Madokami's new timeline, the magical girls still lose against the demons and the Earth is left as their personal playground to do with as they please.]]



* [[spoiler:Madoka in the middle of her transformation into Kriemhild Gretchen]] in the PSP version is certainly [[http://images.puella-magi.net/a/a4/Gretchen_in_PSP_Game_Kyoko_Route.jpg?20120324101542 creepy]], if not terrifying. From the way it looks like the grief seed is splitting [[spoiler:Madoka]]'s body in half, and the silhouette of [[spoiler:what used to be Madoka]]... ''*shudder*''
* There's an event that happens if [[spoiler:Charlotte eats Sayaka's Soul Gem and Madoka and Homura, being inexperienced, can't find Charlotte's barrier]]. We learned in Episode 6 that [[spoiler:Soul Gems are [[SoulJar Soul Jars]], and the body is useless without it]]. Add that to the fact that [[spoiler:Magical Girls die when they lose contact with their Soul Gems for 2 days]], and that's pretty creepy on it's own. They had to make it ''[[UpToEleven even creepier]]'' by adding that [[spoiler:when a Magical Girl loses contact with her soul gem, she starts to '''decompose'''. Luckily, Kyoko kills Charlotte before Sayaka dies. Happy ending, right? '''Wrong'''. Sayaka's body had already started decomposing before her Soul Gem came back. So she wakes up, unaware of what she looks like, and just happens to meet Kyousuke. Who '''FREAKS. OUT.''']] [[DespairEventHorizon You can guess what happens next.]]

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* [[spoiler:Madoka Madoka in the middle of her transformation into Kriemhild Gretchen]] Gretchen in the PSP version is certainly [[http://images.puella-magi.net/a/a4/Gretchen_in_PSP_Game_Kyoko_Route.jpg?20120324101542 creepy]], if not terrifying. From the way it looks like the grief seed is splitting [[spoiler:Madoka]]'s Madoka's body in half, and the silhouette of [[spoiler:what what used to be Madoka]]...Madoka... ''*shudder*''
* There's an event that happens if [[spoiler:Charlotte Charlotte eats Sayaka's Soul Gem and Madoka and Homura, being inexperienced, can't find Charlotte's barrier]]. barrier. We learned in Episode 6 that [[spoiler:Soul Soul Gems are [[SoulJar Soul Jars]], and the body is useless without it]]. Add that to the fact that [[spoiler:Magical Magical Girls die when they lose contact with their Soul Gems for 2 days]], days, and that's pretty creepy on it's own. They had to make it ''[[UpToEleven even creepier]]'' by adding that [[spoiler:when spoiler:when a Magical Girl loses contact with her soul gem, she starts to '''decompose'''. Luckily, Kyoko kills Charlotte before Sayaka dies. Happy ending, right? '''Wrong'''. Sayaka's body had already started decomposing before her Soul Gem came back. So she wakes up, unaware of what she looks like, and just happens to meet Kyousuke. Who '''FREAKS. OUT.''']] [[DespairEventHorizon You can guess what happens next.]]



** Fridge horror makes it even worse; Kyubey states that where he comes from, emotions are considered a mental disease. So what happens to the incubators that feel? Are they locked away? Taken advantage of? Seen as potential Puella Magi themselves?
* Sayaka's bad end. [[spoiler:She has been deprived of her Soul Gem for so long that by the time her friends retrieve it, her body had already started to decompose. She hurries to go see Kyosuke. It does not end well. [[https://images.puella-magi.net/1/1d/Sayaka_rotten_body_PSP_game_shadow.jpg?20120320081828 Her decomposed body is]] [[GoryDiscretionShot not completely shown]], but [[NothingIsScarier that just leaves how nightmarish it is to the imagination]].]]

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** Fridge horror makes it even worse; Kyubey states that where he comes from, emotions are considered a mental disease. So what happens to the incubators that feel? Are they locked away? Taken advantage of? Seen as potential Puella Magi themselves?
* Sayaka's bad end. [[spoiler:She She has been deprived of her Soul Gem for so long that by the time her friends retrieve it, her body had already started to decompose. She hurries to go see Kyosuke. It does not end well. [[https://images.puella-magi.net/1/1d/Sayaka_rotten_body_PSP_game_shadow.jpg?20120320081828 Her decomposed body is]] [[GoryDiscretionShot not completely shown]], but [[NothingIsScarier that just leaves how nightmarish it is to the imagination]].]]



* While [[spoiler:Madoka's witch form, Kriemhild Gretchen]] never shows fully or properly up in the anime, what few things we see of her [[http://i.imgur.com/MQ36M0G.jpg are]] [[http://images.puella-magi.net/c/c5/Card_Kriemhild.png?20110324100002 freaking]] ''[[http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee498/STypeWordsToLiveBy/DamnThatsScary.jpg terrifying]].''
* The ''concept'' of Kyubey is the stuff nightmares are made of. [[spoiler:Appearing in a form that is psychologically appealing to young girls for the "cutesy" element and playing on the natural inferiorities the girls possess, to manipulate them into making a contract that ultimately results in their death for the good of the universe. There's a reason he doesn't chose current world victims that are old enough to understand the concept of trust...]]
** AdultFear: [[spoiler:Kyubey is guilty of the crime of HUMAN TRAFFICKING, and his exploitative recruitment methods are comparable to Child Porn. A ManipulativeBastard who uses the emotion and desperation of little girls in order to scam them into a DealWithTheDevil and force them in a dangerous job as enslaved prostitutes, er, "Magical Girls".]] Plus, being InvisibleToNormals means that those who contracts cant talk about him to anyone lest people think they're crazy.

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* While [[spoiler:Madoka's Madoka's witch form, Kriemhild Gretchen]] Gretchen never shows fully or properly up in the anime, what few things we see of her [[http://i.imgur.com/MQ36M0G.jpg are]] [[http://images.puella-magi.net/c/c5/Card_Kriemhild.png?20110324100002 freaking]] ''[[http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee498/STypeWordsToLiveBy/DamnThatsScary.jpg terrifying]].''
* The ''concept'' of Kyubey is the stuff nightmares are made of. [[spoiler:Appearing Appearing in a form that is psychologically appealing to young girls for the "cutesy" element and playing on the natural inferiorities the girls possess, to manipulate them into making a contract that ultimately results in their death for the good of the universe. There's a reason he doesn't chose current world victims that are old enough to understand the concept of trust...]]
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** AdultFear: [[spoiler:Kyubey Kyubey is guilty of the crime of HUMAN TRAFFICKING, and his exploitative recruitment methods are comparable to Child Porn. A ManipulativeBastard who uses the emotion and desperation of little girls in order to scam them into a DealWithTheDevil and force them in a dangerous job as enslaved prostitutes, er, "Magical Girls".]] Plus, being InvisibleToNormals means that those who contracts cant talk about him to anyone lest people think they're crazy.



** What makes him even worse is that his utilitarian philosophy is no different from that of [[RealPolitik Real Life Politics]]. In other words, we are more alike to him than previously though. That alone makes for serious FridgeHorror.
** Since he's a colossal ManipulativeBastard, we have no reason to think anything Kyubey's doing is benevolent. He ''says'' the cycle of Magical Girls and Witches is to prevent the heat death of the universe, but that could easily just be him using big fancy words to sound important. [[FridgeHorror Then why might he really doing it?]] What does he get out of giving little girls magic powers then reabsorbing their energy after they've been consumed by despair? A better question might be [[{{Squick}} do we even want to know?]]
* The series really hammers home the fact that, under the flashy outfits and magic powers, Magical Girls are just glorified ChildSoldiers. They have to willingly enter life-threatening situations ''on a regular basis'' [[AdultFear without their friends or family even knowing where they are]]. And even with magic, they're all still teenage girls who've probably never even held a gun, much less had any proper combat training. When Sayaka started out as a Magical Girl, she got her ass handed to her by both Kyoko and Homura. After she [[spoiler: learns the truth about Magica Girls]], she pretty much abandons anything resembling strategy and [[TheBerserker simply tanks attacks]]. The only reason she manages to survive any of this is because her wish to heal Kyosuke also granted her a HealingFactor. It makes you wonder just how many inexperienced young girls without this kind of power or who just don't know any better have suffered horrific deaths in battles against Witches. The worst part though? Since [[spoiler: they'll turn into witches themselves without grief seeds]], they have ''no choice'' but to keep fighting.
* Homura uses real guns, stolen, among others, from the JSDF. In 2011, right when the series was being aired, [[http://extrovertedotaku.blogspot.it/2011/04/akemi-homuras-weapon-gallery.html the JSDF and the US troops in Japan reported the theft of Howa Type 89 assault rifles, [=M9=] pistols and many other weapons of the same types used by Homura]]. And the Tohoku Earthquake happened right when the final episodes (the ones with the attack of Walpurgisnacht, who is usually mistaken for a natural disaster herself) were supposed to air. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Quite the interesting coincidence, isn't it]]?

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** What makes him even worse is that his utilitarian philosophy is no different from that of [[RealPolitik Real Life Politics]]. In other words, we are more alike to him than previously though. That alone makes for serious FridgeHorror.
** Since he's a colossal ManipulativeBastard, we have no reason to think anything Kyubey's doing is benevolent. He ''says'' the cycle of Magical Girls and Witches is to prevent the heat death of the universe, but that could easily just be him using big fancy words to sound important. [[FridgeHorror Then why might he really doing it?]] What does he get out of giving little girls magic powers then reabsorbing their energy after they've been consumed by despair? A better question might be [[{{Squick}} do we even want to know?]]
* The series really hammers home the fact that, under the flashy outfits and magic powers, Magical Girls are just glorified ChildSoldiers. They have to willingly enter life-threatening situations ''on a regular basis'' [[AdultFear without their friends or family even knowing where they are]]. And even with magic, they're all still teenage girls who've probably never even held a gun, much less had any proper combat training. When Sayaka started out as a Magical Girl, she got her ass handed to her by both Kyoko and Homura. After she [[spoiler: learns the truth about Magica Girls]], Girls, she pretty much abandons anything resembling strategy and [[TheBerserker simply tanks attacks]]. The only reason she manages to survive any of this is because her wish to heal Kyosuke also granted her a HealingFactor. It makes you wonder just how many inexperienced young girls without this kind of power or who just don't know any better have suffered horrific deaths in battles against Witches. The worst part though? Since [[spoiler: they'll turn into witches themselves without grief seeds]], seeds, they have ''no choice'' but to keep fighting.
* Homura uses real guns, stolen, among others, from the JSDF. In 2011, right when the series was being aired, [[http://extrovertedotaku.blogspot.it/2011/04/akemi-homuras-weapon-gallery.html the JSDF and the US troops in Japan reported the theft of Howa Type 89 assault rifles, [=M9=] pistols and many other weapons of the same types used by Homura]]. And the Tohoku Earthquake happened right when the final episodes (the ones with the attack of Walpurgisnacht, who is usually mistaken for a natural disaster herself) were supposed to air. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Quite the interesting coincidence, isn't it]]?
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13th Aug '17 11:31:22 AM nombretomado
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Considering the [[Creator/GenUrobuchi pedi]][[Creator/StudioShaft grees]] behind ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', some creep factors are to be expected. However, the sheer level of NightmareFuel to be found in the series's life has been rather terrifying. Do NOT be fooled by Creator/UmeAoki's TastesLikeDiabetes [[PuniPlush character]] [[ArtStyleDissonance designs]]; this show is "''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' [[XMeetsY with]] {{Magical Girl}}s; a TearJerker with tears made of pure NightmareFuel." [[RunningGag Yeah, it's that kind of show.]]

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Considering the [[Creator/GenUrobuchi pedi]][[Creator/StudioShaft grees]] behind ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', some creep factors are to be expected. However, the sheer level of NightmareFuel to be found in the series's life has been rather terrifying. Do NOT be fooled by Creator/UmeAoki's TastesLikeDiabetes [[PuniPlush character]] [[ArtStyleDissonance designs]]; this show is "''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] {{Magical Girl}}s; a TearJerker with tears made of pure NightmareFuel." [[RunningGag Yeah, it's that kind of show.]]
7th Jul '17 5:37:57 PM Tehrannotaur
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Considering the [[Creator/GenUrobuchi pedi]][[Creator/StudioShaft grees]] behind ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', some creep factors are to be expected. However, the sheer level of NightmareFuel to be found in the series's life has been rather terrifying. Do NOT be fooled by Creator/UmeAoki's TastesLikeDiabetes [[PuniPlush character]] [[ArtStyleDissonance designs]]; this show is "''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' [[XMeetsY with]] {{Magical Girl}}s; a TearJerker with tears made of pure NightmareFuel." [[RunningGag Yeah, it's that kind of show.]]

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Considering the [[Creator/GenUrobuchi pedi]][[Creator/StudioShaft grees]] behind ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', some creep factors are to be expected. However, the sheer level of NightmareFuel to be found in the series's life has been rather terrifying. Do NOT be fooled by Creator/UmeAoki's TastesLikeDiabetes [[PuniPlush character]] [[ArtStyleDissonance designs]]; this show is "''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' "''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' [[XMeetsY with]] {{Magical Girl}}s; a TearJerker with tears made of pure NightmareFuel." [[RunningGag Yeah, it's that kind of show.]]
14th Jun '17 5:10:38 PM oyashiro
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** There's also the fact that, if you look closely, you'll realize that Madoka's clothes are slowly being torn away as she runs further and further into the darkness. Keep in mind that Madoka is 'fourteen years old.'

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** There's also the fact that, if you look closely, you'll realize that Madoka's clothes are slowly being torn away as she runs further and further into the darkness. Keep in mind that Madoka is 'fourteen ''fourteen years old.' ''
14th Jun '17 5:09:35 PM oyashiro
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** There's also the fact that, if you look closely, you'll realize that Madoka's clothes are slowly being torn away as she runs further and further into the darkness. Keep in mind that Madoka is 'fourteen years old.'
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