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20th Feb '17 6:05:52 AM RedRoverRedRover
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** Wonder Woman falling victim to a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown by Mongul was pretty unsettling to watch. We have seen Wonder Woman take a beating before, but this episode in particular makes it worse than the others. For instance, you had Mongul coming close to actually killing her. She had to crawl to Bruce to save him from the plant because she could hardly stand after the beating she took from Mongul.

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** Wonder Woman falling victim to a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown by Mongul was pretty unsettling to watch. We have seen Wonder Woman take a beating before, but this episode in particular makes it worse than the others. For instance, you had Mongul coming close to actually killing her. She had to crawl to Bruce to save him from the plant because she could hardly stand after the beating she took from Mongul. When Mongul takes her down and then stomps on her, the scream she lets out is chilling.
20th Jan '17 2:28:49 AM Emperor_Oshron
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*** The whole thing is practically a KillEmAll episode: [[spoiler: Wonder Woman fades out of existence thanks to Chronos' meddling with the timestream, one of the bad guy's own henchmen is dropped in the Cretaceous to be killed by the mass extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs, Terry is ripped limb from limb, and--as mentioned before--Static fell through a tear in the space-time continuum, plus the implication that ''every other member of the Justice League is already dead''. Green Lantern nearly had something like this happen to ''him'', too--luckily for John, he was just temporarily replaced by Hal Jordan and came back after a few minutes]].
16th Jan '17 8:24:11 PM ShorinBJ
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** Which, if that wasn't bad enough, also means that ''[[DoesNotLikeGuns Batman]]'', of all people, almost killed Princess Audrey's father with a big honking space-gun! When we saw the people running out of the castle, you can see one of the soldier's carrying someone dressed in purple. The king was wearing purple pajamas. So, the king didn't actually die in the explosion. But what if the guard hadn't been on the watch?

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** Which, if that wasn't bad enough, also means that ''[[DoesNotLikeGuns Batman]]'', of all people, almost killed Princess Audrey's father with a big honking space-gun! When we saw the people running out of the castle, you can see one of the soldier's soldiers carrying someone dressed in purple. The king was wearing purple pajamas. So, the king didn't actually die in the explosion. But what if the guard hadn't been on the watch?
2nd Sep '16 3:31:36 PM AHI-3000
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* While generally amusing, the entirety of "Legends" has some extremely creepy subtext; indeed, the fact that the arc is so bright and sunny makes it all the more frightening when you put together the pieces. The ideal, idyllic 50's comic book fantasy world was created by a young child who had to experience his entire world go up in flames when a nuclear war broke out, was mutated by the fallout into some...inhuman...cancerous...''thing'', and was driven so insane that the only he could cope was by using his newfound psychic powers to create an eternal happy dream world where none of this ever happened.

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* While generally amusing, the entirety of "Legends" has some extremely creepy subtext; indeed, the fact that the arc world is so bright and sunny makes it all the more frightening when you put together the pieces. The ideal, idyllic 50's comic book fantasy world was created by a young child who had to experience his entire world go up in flames when a nuclear war broke out, was mutated by the fallout into some...inhuman...cancerous...''thing'', and was driven so insane that the only he could cope was by using his newfound psychic powers to create an eternal happy dream world where none of this ever happened.happened.
** TheReveal of the real world is chilling when you consider how close [[RealLife our world]] has come to that and that it could still end up as such.



* TheReveal of the [[spoiler:real]] world in "Legends" is chilling when you consider how close [[RealLife our world]] has come to that and that it could still end up as such.
24th May '16 3:27:59 AM noheartxanother
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** Lord!Batman. The biggest nightmare in all this is that Batman himself has [[FaceHeelTurn turned over to the dark side]]. That in itself is scary enough (this is the guy who sees the Justice League, ''all of the Justice League'', as a countermeasure to himself). But what's scarier is that after Lord!Superman [[spoiler:vaporizes Lex Luthor]], all he offers is a disinterested "Well. It had to be done." He has no sadness, no revulsion towards Lord!Superman breaking one of their central tenets; in fact, he sees [[spoiler:Superman killing Luthor]] as a necessary move. If [[spoiler:ThouShaltNotKill]] was ever a principle for this version of the character, it was gone before even [[spoiler:Superman's]].

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** Lord!Batman. The biggest nightmare in all this is that Batman himself has [[FaceHeelTurn turned over to the dark side]]. That in itself is scary enough (this is the guy who sees the Justice League, ''all of the Justice League'', as a countermeasure to himself). But what's scarier is that after Lord!Superman [[spoiler:vaporizes Lex Luthor]], all he offers is a disinterested "Well. It had to be done." He has no sadness, no revulsion towards Lord!Superman breaking one of their central tenets; in fact, he sees [[spoiler:Superman killing Luthor]] as a necessary move. If [[spoiler:ThouShaltNotKill]] was ever a principle for this version of the character, he abandoned it was gone before even [[spoiler:Superman's]].[[spoiler:Superman]].



-->'''Lord!Superman''': I've done a lot of things I've never thought I'd do these last two years. One more won't hurt.

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-->'''Lord!Superman''': I've done a lot of things I've never thought I'd do these last two years. One [[spoiler:One more won't hurt.]]



* When Green Arrow tries to call out Superman in ''Flashpoint'' on seriously considering burning a government agency to the ground and generally putting himself and the team above humanity as of late, all the attention Superman can spare for him is to say is that he could care less about his opinion, or that Batman recruited him to be the team conscience. When Arrow admits that he's starting to become scared of Superman himself it's pretty understandable, especially since if Superman had just snapped then and there he could have blown Queen's brains out with the flick of a finger for talking back to him, or simply turned him to ash with a glance - not an unreasonable response from Lord Superman, who Superman teeters on the verge of becoming for the entire Cadmus arc.

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* When Green Arrow tries to call out Superman in ''Flashpoint'' 'Flashpoint" on seriously considering burning a government agency to the ground and generally putting himself and the team above humanity as of late, all the attention Superman can spare for him is to say is that he could care less about his opinion, or that Batman recruited him to be the team conscience. When Arrow admits that he's starting to become scared of Superman himself it's pretty understandable, especially since if Superman had just snapped then and there he could have blown Queen's brains out with the flick of a finger for talking back to him, or simply turned him to ash with a glance - not an unreasonable response from Lord Superman, Lord!Superman, who Superman teeters on the verge of becoming for the entire Cadmus arc.
24th May '16 3:24:43 AM noheartxanother
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** What he says to Lord!Batman and Lord!Wonder Woman right after makes it a LOT worse. [[spoiler:"''[[WhamLine I'm great!]]''"]]

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** What he says to Lord!Batman and Lord!Wonder Woman right after makes it a LOT worse. [[spoiler:"''[[WhamLine I'm great!]]''"]]great.]]''"]]



** Lord!Batman. The biggest nightmare in all this is that Batman himself has [[FaceHeelTurn turned over to the dark side]]. That in itself is scary enough (this is the guy who sees the Justice League, ''all of the Justice League'', as a countermeasure to himself). But what's scarier is that after Lord!Superman [[spoiler:vaporizes Lex Luthor]], all he offers is a disinterested "Well. It had to be done." He has no sadness, no revulsion towards Lord!Superman breaking one of their central tenets; in fact, he sees [[spoiler:Superman killing Luthor]] as a necessary move. Think about this for a second. The guy whose one rule is [[spoiler:ThouShaltNotKill]] approves of [[spoiler:murder when it is necessary]].
** Then there's Flash telling Lord!Superman that he couldn't kill him, since the death of ''his'' Flash was what started everything. Lord!Superman shrugs, essentially says "Well, now I don't care," and is ready to fry him.

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** Lord!Batman. The biggest nightmare in all this is that Batman himself has [[FaceHeelTurn turned over to the dark side]]. That in itself is scary enough (this is the guy who sees the Justice League, ''all of the Justice League'', as a countermeasure to himself). But what's scarier is that after Lord!Superman [[spoiler:vaporizes Lex Luthor]], all he offers is a disinterested "Well. It had to be done." He has no sadness, no revulsion towards Lord!Superman breaking one of their central tenets; in fact, he sees [[spoiler:Superman killing Luthor]] as a necessary move. Think about this for a second. The guy whose one rule is If [[spoiler:ThouShaltNotKill]] approves was ever a principle for this version of [[spoiler:murder when the character, it is necessary]].
was gone before even [[spoiler:Superman's]].
** Then there's Flash telling Lord!Superman that he couldn't kill him, since the death of ''his'' Flash was what started everything. Lord!Superman shrugs, essentially says "Well, everything, and that even now I don't care," and is ready to fry him.he wouldn't go that far.
-->'''Lord!Superman''': I've done a lot of things I've never thought I'd do these last two years. One more won't hurt.



*** Even the nature of the fantasy is unnerving in and of itself. In the comic the episode was based off of, by the time the Black Mercy is pulled off of him, the fantasy had extended to growing up, settling down and having a child. In here, that's not the case. In here, his deepest, truest wish is simply to watch Thomas Wayne beat Joe Chill to a pulp. Forever.



* Amanda Waller, bad enough she proved she knew Batman's secret identity the first time they met. But every single time she talks about the clones or mutated soldiers Cadmus created, she's always got one of the nastiest, [[PsychoticSmirk evil grins]] ever seen. It's like she doesn't even think of any of them as people!

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* Amanda Waller, bad enough she proved she knew Batman's secret identity the first time they met. But every single time she talks about the clones or mutated soldiers Cadmus created, she's always got one of the nastiest, [[PsychoticSmirk evil grins]] ever seen. It's like she doesn't even think They're weapons for deployment, nothing more.
* When Green Arrow tries to call out Superman in ''Flashpoint'' on seriously considering burning a government agency to the ground and generally putting himself and the team above humanity as
of any late, all the attention Superman can spare for him is to say is that he could care less about his opinion, or that Batman recruited him to be the team conscience. When Arrow admits that he's starting to become scared of them as people!Superman himself it's pretty understandable, especially since if Superman had just snapped then and there he could have blown Queen's brains out with the flick of a finger for talking back to him, or simply turned him to ash with a glance - not an unreasonable response from Lord Superman, who Superman teeters on the verge of becoming for the entire Cadmus arc.
23rd May '16 11:02:07 PM alienhunter
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** The song people possessed by the Dark Heart sing starts out kinda [[Narm narmy]]. Then everyone but Flash gets possessed and starts singing it. Combined with the dark, enclosed watchtower with no exits...really hammers home the oppressive nature.

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** The song people possessed by the Dark Heart sing starts out kinda [[Narm narmy]]. Then [[{{Narm}} narmy]] until everyone but Flash gets possessed and starts singing it. Combined with the dark, enclosed watchtower with no exits...really hammers home the oppressive nature.
20th May '16 6:22:53 AM TwilightCrow
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** The song people possessed by the Dark Heart sing starts out kinda [[Narm narmy]]. Then everyone but Flash gets possessed and starts singing it. Combined with the dark, enclosed watchtower with no exits...really hammers home the oppressive nature.
7th May '16 1:08:49 AM HeroGal2347
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** Superman accidentally destroying Metropolis and ''snapping Comicbook/JimmyOlsen's spine'' in his nightmare should also count. As well as accidentally frying Lois with heat vision at the very beginning. Both horrifying and heartbreaking, especially given what we see of his reactions; of all the Leaguers, his is the most outwardly pronounced. After he accidentally kills Lois, we cut to his apartment where we see him screaming and flailing around [[TearJerker/JusticeLeague as if in agony]].

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** Superman accidentally destroying Metropolis and ''snapping Comicbook/JimmyOlsen's spine'' in his Superman's nightmare should also count. As well as is both horrifying and heartbreaking. It starts with him accidentally frying Lois with heat vision at the very beginning. Both horrifying and heartbreaking, vision. [[ScreamDiscretionShot We don't even see it, but from Supes' response, it must have been horrifying]], especially given what we see of his reactions; of all the Leaguers, his is the most outwardly pronounced. After he accidentally kills Lois, we cut to his apartment where we see him screaming and flailing around [[TearJerker/JusticeLeague as if in agony]].agony]]...and given what we see of the rest of the nightmare, it probably didn't get any better for him from there.
** Superman accidentally destroying Metropolis and ''snapping Comicbook/JimmyOlsen's spine'' later in the nightmare. When Superman inadvertently crushes Jimmy with a hug, [[SickeningCrunch you can actually]] ''[[SickeningCrunch hear]]'' [[SickeningCrunch the poor teen's bones snap]] as he screams in agony -- and suddenly goes limp. ''Then'' the viewer gets treated to a few seconds of seeing his body, [[DiesWideOpen his eyes wide open in a chillingly blank stare.]] The whole thing is completely bloodless, but that doesn't mean it isn't disturbing.
6th May '16 12:27:02 PM ultimomant
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** Superman accidentally destroying Metropolis and ''snapping SelfDemonstrating/JimmyOlsen's spine'' in his nightmare should also count. As well as accidentally frying Lois with heat vision at the very beginning. Both horrifying and heartbreaking, especially given what we see of his reactions; of all the Leaguers, his is the most outwardly pronounced. After he accidentally kills Lois, we cut to his apartment where we see him screaming and flailing around [[TearJerker/JusticeLeague as if in agony]].

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** Superman accidentally destroying Metropolis and ''snapping SelfDemonstrating/JimmyOlsen's Comicbook/JimmyOlsen's spine'' in his nightmare should also count. As well as accidentally frying Lois with heat vision at the very beginning. Both horrifying and heartbreaking, especially given what we see of his reactions; of all the Leaguers, his is the most outwardly pronounced. After he accidentally kills Lois, we cut to his apartment where we see him screaming and flailing around [[TearJerker/JusticeLeague as if in agony]].
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