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23rd Dec '17 8:20:53 AM Loekman3
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*** Earlier on when Luke sense a growing darkness within Kylo Ren, the former actually contemplated on killing him in sleep but even though he realized his mistake, the damage has already been done and it ultimately led Kylo Ren to believed that Luke actually intends to murder him and it ultimately ended up leading him to defect to the Dark Side and kickstarts the plot of the sequel trilogy.
23rd Dec '17 8:14:26 AM Loekman3
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* [[Film/RevengeOfTheSith Yoda]] may have been a great military commander, but he sucked as an emotional counselor. In RealLife, it has been known since time immemorial that platitudes, no matter how well-meant, fall flat on the hurting. Unfortunately, platitudes were all Yoda had for a worried Anakin Skywalker. [[BigBad Darth Sidious]] promised actual help...
** Even before that, Yoda decided to give Anakin a padawan because he believed that training a Jedi until she was fully able to take care of herself would help Anakin learn to let go of his loved ones, freeing him from the fear of loss that could lead him to the Dark Side. Unfortunately, Yoda couldn't anticipate that Ahsoka would [[spoiler: choose to leave the Order before her training was complete]], which only ''increased'' Anakin's fear of loss and inability to let go, pushing him ''closer'' to the Dark Side.



* ''Film/TheLastJedi'' has one of the biggest examples in all of ''Franchise/StarWars.''
** Convinced that Holdo is just ready to take the fleet and fly off, Poe agrees to secretly let Finn and Rose go on a mission to find a splicer, get on the First Order main ship and deactivate the sensors letting them track the Rebel fleet through hyperspace. When Holdo seems ready to go, Poe leads a mutiny to stop her. At which point, [[spoiler: Leia herself knocks Poe out and when he comes too, she tells him that Holdo was following her plan: send transports with the 500 Rebels cloaked from sensors and settle on a hidden base on a nearby planet. The cruiser will go on to lead the First Order away, unaware they're chasing a ghost ship. Holdo wasn't a coward, she was doing exactly what Leia would have.]]
** Which really ends up blowing up in everyone's faces as [[spoiler: Rose and Finn are caught before they can destroy the device. Then that "charming rogue" splicer not only sells them out in a heartbeat but also gives the First Order codes to track the transports. They soon destroy nearly the entire fleeing fleet and are only stopped by Holdo ramming the cruiser into their ship in hyperspace. But between that attack and a follow-up battle at the now-discovered base, a strong force of 500 people is down to barely thirty.]]
*** In other words, if [[spoiler: Poe had just trusted Holdo and not had Finn and Rose do this (or, conversely, Holdo had told him what was up), the plan would have worked and the full Resistance would have been safe.]] If that's not living up the trope, few things do.

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** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''
*** Yoda may have been a great military commander, but he sucked as an emotional counselor. In RealLife, it has been known since time immemorial that platitudes, no matter how well-meant, fall flat on the hurting. Unfortunately, platitudes were all Yoda had for a worried Anakin Skywalker. [[BigBad Darth Sidious]] promised actual help...
*** Even before that, Yoda decided to give Anakin a padawan because he believed that training a Jedi until she was fully able to take care of herself would help Anakin learn to let go of his loved ones, freeing him from the fear of loss that could lead him to the Dark Side. Unfortunately, Yoda couldn't anticipate that Ahsoka would [[spoiler: choose to leave the Order before her training was complete]], which only ''increased'' Anakin's fear of loss and inability to let go, pushing him ''closer'' to the Dark Side.
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''Film/TheLastJedi'' has one of the biggest examples in all of ''Franchise/StarWars.''
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''Star Wars''.
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Convinced that Holdo is just ready to take the fleet and fly off, Poe agrees to secretly let Finn and Rose go on a mission to find a splicer, get on the First Order main ship and deactivate the sensors letting them track the Rebel fleet through hyperspace. When Holdo seems ready to go, Poe leads a mutiny to stop her. At which point, [[spoiler: Leia herself knocks Poe out and when he comes too, she tells him that Holdo was following her plan: send transports with the 500 Rebels cloaked from sensors and settle on a hidden base on a nearby planet. The cruiser will go on to lead the First Order away, unaware they're chasing a ghost ship. Holdo wasn't a coward, she was doing exactly what Leia would have.]]
** *** Which really ends up blowing up in everyone's faces as [[spoiler: Rose and Finn are caught before they can destroy the device. Then that "charming rogue" splicer not only sells them out in a heartbeat but also gives the First Order codes to track the transports. They soon destroy nearly the entire fleeing fleet and are only stopped by Holdo ramming the cruiser into their ship in hyperspace. But between that attack and a follow-up battle at the now-discovered base, a strong force of 500 people is down to barely thirty.]]
*** In other words, if [[spoiler: Poe had just trusted Holdo and not had Finn and Rose do this (or, conversely, Holdo had told him what was up), the plan would have worked and the full Resistance would have been safe.]] If that's not living up the trope, few things do.
16th Dec '17 12:18:09 AM MikeW
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** Convinced that Hondo is just ready to take the fleet and fly off, Poe agrees to secretly let Finn and Rose go on a mission to find a splicer, get on the First Order main ship and deactivate the sensors letting them track the Rebel fleet through hyperspace. When Hondo seems ready to go, Poe leads a mutiny to stop her. At which point, [[spoiler: Leia herself knocks Poe out and when he comes too, she tells him that Hondo was following her plan: send transports with the 500 Rebels cloaked from sensors and settle on a hidden base on a nearby planet. The cruiser will go on to lead the First Order away, unaware they're chasing a ghost ship. Hondo wasn't a coward, she was doing exactly what Leia would have.]]
** Which really ends up blowing up in everyone's faces as [[spoiler: Rose and Finn are caught before they can destroy the device. Then that "charming rogue" splicer not only sells them out in a heartbeat but also gives the First Order codes to track the transports. They soon destroy nearly the entire fleeing fleet and are only stopped by Hondo ramming the cruiser into their ship in hyperspace. But between that attack and a follow-up battle at the now-discovered base, a strong force of 500 people is down to barely thirty.]]
*** In other words, if [[spoiler: Poe had just trusted Hondo and not had Finn and Rose do this (or, conversely, Hondo had told him what was up), the plan would have worked and the full Resistance would have been safe.]] If that's not living up the trope, few things do.

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** Convinced that Hondo Holdo is just ready to take the fleet and fly off, Poe agrees to secretly let Finn and Rose go on a mission to find a splicer, get on the First Order main ship and deactivate the sensors letting them track the Rebel fleet through hyperspace. When Hondo Holdo seems ready to go, Poe leads a mutiny to stop her. At which point, [[spoiler: Leia herself knocks Poe out and when he comes too, she tells him that Hondo Holdo was following her plan: send transports with the 500 Rebels cloaked from sensors and settle on a hidden base on a nearby planet. The cruiser will go on to lead the First Order away, unaware they're chasing a ghost ship. Hondo Holdo wasn't a coward, she was doing exactly what Leia would have.]]
** Which really ends up blowing up in everyone's faces as [[spoiler: Rose and Finn are caught before they can destroy the device. Then that "charming rogue" splicer not only sells them out in a heartbeat but also gives the First Order codes to track the transports. They soon destroy nearly the entire fleeing fleet and are only stopped by Hondo Holdo ramming the cruiser into their ship in hyperspace. But between that attack and a follow-up battle at the now-discovered base, a strong force of 500 people is down to barely thirty.]]
*** In other words, if [[spoiler: Poe had just trusted Hondo Holdo and not had Finn and Rose do this (or, conversely, Hondo Holdo had told him what was up), the plan would have worked and the full Resistance would have been safe.]] If that's not living up the trope, few things do.
16th Dec '17 12:15:18 AM MikeW
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** Also done before the movie begins by the scientists who fired into the sky a special missile with a gas meant to reverse global warming. It worked...and caused a new ice age.


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* ''Film/TheLastJedi'' has one of the biggest examples in all of ''Franchise/StarWars.''
** Convinced that Hondo is just ready to take the fleet and fly off, Poe agrees to secretly let Finn and Rose go on a mission to find a splicer, get on the First Order main ship and deactivate the sensors letting them track the Rebel fleet through hyperspace. When Hondo seems ready to go, Poe leads a mutiny to stop her. At which point, [[spoiler: Leia herself knocks Poe out and when he comes too, she tells him that Hondo was following her plan: send transports with the 500 Rebels cloaked from sensors and settle on a hidden base on a nearby planet. The cruiser will go on to lead the First Order away, unaware they're chasing a ghost ship. Hondo wasn't a coward, she was doing exactly what Leia would have.]]
** Which really ends up blowing up in everyone's faces as [[spoiler: Rose and Finn are caught before they can destroy the device. Then that "charming rogue" splicer not only sells them out in a heartbeat but also gives the First Order codes to track the transports. They soon destroy nearly the entire fleeing fleet and are only stopped by Hondo ramming the cruiser into their ship in hyperspace. But between that attack and a follow-up battle at the now-discovered base, a strong force of 500 people is down to barely thirty.]]
*** In other words, if [[spoiler: Poe had just trusted Hondo and not had Finn and Rose do this (or, conversely, Hondo had told him what was up), the plan would have worked and the full Resistance would have been safe.]] If that's not living up the trope, few things do.
4th Oct '17 6:48:00 PM Anicomicgeek
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* The US Air Force only made things worse in ''Film/ShinGodzilla'' as it's implied Godzilla developed his atomic breath as a result of bunker busters injuring him, where he not only destroyed the bombers, but also lays waste to much of Tokyo and [[spoiler:kills the Prime Minister and much of the Cabinet when their helicopter gets caught in its blast.]]
22nd Sep '17 6:47:13 PM tweeety
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* {{Snowpiercer}}: The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.

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* {{Snowpiercer}}: {{Film/Snowpiercer}}: The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.
22nd Sep '17 6:46:13 PM tweeety
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* Film/Snowpiercer: The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.

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* Film/Snowpiercer: {{Snowpiercer}}: The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.
22nd Sep '17 6:34:45 PM tweeety
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* ''Film/Snowpiercer'': The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.

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* ''Film/Snowpiercer'': Film/Snowpiercer: The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.
22nd Sep '17 6:21:05 PM tweeety
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* ''Film/Snowpiercer'': The protagonist himself does this twice. First by going on with the revolt which turns out to have been engineered by the train conductor as a way to cull the population and keep the train balanced, and even going too far with that ending in more deaths than expected/needed, then again when he tries to intervene and help lil Timmy, which costs the other boy to sacrifice himself to keep the engine going. Then more egregiously the good guys epically mess up by blowing up the side door to the train, which causes an avalanche to cave in and derail the majority of the train, specifically the rear end, where the protagonist and his people have been suffering and trying to leave since the start of the movie.. at the end of the movie the protagonist is dead and while it's not confirmed whether all the other passengers died (except for the girl and the kid) the hero's people are definitely goners, and the train is in bad shape, and the majority of the people are potentially dead, and the only guy who knew how to survive outside is definitely dead, and there's a good chance the only living beings on the planet are a teenage girl, a little boy and a polar bear. You can guess how well that's gonna go for the humans.
22nd Sep '17 5:23:21 PM tweeety
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*** Not just that, they set off an order of events that would eventually lead to Harry's own death (and every other death in the series). Voldemort was stuck in Quirrel, living a half life, he wasn't exactly thriving. By beating him in that form at that time he didn't allow Dumbledore time to find his horcruxes (which would have prevented him from respawning) and basically opened the door for him to come back as a complete (more or less) being AND lose his inability to touch Harry so double-no, triple-good job breaking it hero! And it's not like Voldemort could've got the stone since even if he got wise and tried to use someone else to get it with the Imperius curse, they still wouldn't be able to get it because the second he tells them to get it they will want to get it and will therefore not be able to get it. Basically he was stuck in that form and Harry did him a huge solid.
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