History NeverLiveItDown / RealLife

26th May '16 8:38:36 PM Doug86
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* Æthelred the Unready (Æthelred Unræd) is more famous than most of the other early Anglo-Saxon rulers simply because of his [[EmbarrassingNickname humiliating nickname.]] Incidentally, he is not "Æthelred the Unprepared", he is "Æthelred the Ill-Advised", since the Anglo-Saxon word "Unræd" means "bad council"; the bad advice he was given was to pay off the Danes rather than oppose them militarily. His nickname is ironic, since "Æthelred" means "Noble Council" in Anglo-Saxon.

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* Æthelred [=Æ=]thelred the Unready (Æthelred ([=Æ=]thelred Unræd) is more famous than most of the other early Anglo-Saxon rulers simply because of his [[EmbarrassingNickname humiliating nickname.]] Incidentally, he is not "Æthelred "[=Æ=]thelred the Unprepared", he is "Æthelred "[=Æ=]thelred the Ill-Advised", since the Anglo-Saxon word "Unræd" means "bad council"; the bad advice he was given was to pay off the Danes rather than oppose them militarily. His nickname is ironic, since "Æthelred" "[=Æ=]thelred" means "Noble Council" in Anglo-Saxon.
23rd May '16 11:03:49 PM samhuddy
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** As the Vietnam War has faded further into history, Johnson has gotten something of a HistoricalHeroUpgrade, with much more attention being drawn to his championing of Civil Rights laws, passage of Medicare, and launching of the War on Poverty. And for being [[BiggusDickus well-endowed.]]
17th May '16 9:13:18 AM pacealot
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* Creator/WoodyAllen: [[RenaissanceMan Director, actor, screenwriter, comedian, playwright, musician, writer]], director of one movie a year despite not making a blockbuster. To most Americans, what really comes to mind when he's mentioned today is his marriage to Soon-Yi Previn, the adopted daughter of his ex-lover Mia Farrow, who he had little contact with during her upbringing and only began a relationship with when she was 19. However, the context of their relationship, the fact that he hadn't yet broken up with Farrow, that the latter found out in embarassing context, the percieved WifeHusbandry, the age difference (they married when she was 22 and he was 56) all added an image of {{Squick}} that Allen has never truly escaped. Related to this, is also the percieved declining quality of Allen's films, at least till the 90s (his 21st Century films ''Match Point, Midnight in Paris'' and ''Blue Jasmine'' are regarded as comeback films and commercial and financial releases). But generally, most younger filmgoers and the Tabloid press know him for is the marriage to Soon Yi and not the era in which his films were landmark events.

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* Creator/WoodyAllen: [[RenaissanceMan Director, actor, screenwriter, comedian, playwright, musician, writer]], director of one movie a year despite not making never having make a blockbuster. To most Americans, what really comes to mind when he's mentioned today is his marriage to Soon-Yi Previn, the adopted daughter of his ex-lover Mia Farrow, who with whom he had little contact with during her upbringing and only began a relationship with when she was 19. However, the context of their relationship, the fact that he hadn't yet broken up with Farrow, that the latter found out in embarassing an embarrassing context, the percieved perceived WifeHusbandry, the age difference (they married when she was 22 and he was 56) all added an image of {{Squick}} that Allen has never truly escaped. Related to this, is also the percieved perceived declining quality of Allen's films, at least till the 90s (his 21st Century films ''Match Point, Midnight in Paris'' and ''Blue Jasmine'' are regarded as comeback films and commercial and financial releases). But generally, most younger filmgoers and the Tabloid press know him for is the marriage to Soon Yi and not the era in which his films were landmark events.
17th May '16 9:06:05 AM pacealot
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** Within France, you have the descendants of Vendée, who simply won't forget the fact that their cause was lost in UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution and their subsequent rebellion. Even the admiration and respect given them by UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte doesn't stop their rather persistent "defiance" to the Republic. Naturally said defiance doesn't include any mention of the fact that the Rebellion began when they opened fire and massacred 200 people, that they planned moreover to ally with invading armies or that their rebellion was opposed by Republican Vendéeans (one of whose descendants was Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau who kept a bust of Robespierre on his desk), who naturally don't get any say in defining the regional culture at all.

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** Within France, you have the descendants of Vendée, who simply won't forget the fact that their cause was lost in UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution and their subsequent rebellion. Even the admiration and respect given them by UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte doesn't stop their rather persistent "defiance" to the Republic. Naturally said this defiance doesn't include any mention of the fact that the Rebellion began when they opened fire and massacred 200 people, that they planned moreover to ally with invading armies or that their rebellion was opposed by Republican Vendéeans (one of whose descendants was Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau who kept a bust of Robespierre on his desk), who naturally don't get any say in defining the regional culture at all.



*** It gets worse when the said sex offender tries to get a job or move into a housing project, only to be turned away by employers who don't want a sexual predator working in their business and concerned parents not wanting the guy to be near their kids, even if he lives far away from a school. This forces the sex offenders to live in the streets homeless and may return to a life of crime. Even worse, because U.S. laws function by specifically prohibiting what you can ''not'' do, it means that while sex offenders are not allowed to live near schools, certain housing areas, and within some cities, towns, and subdivisions, which means that that can't be in those areas, it also means that they're forced to live in the outskirts or in surrounding rural areas where it's impossible to track or keep tabs on them because they've been pushed out of areas with police and surveillance as well as where there are people to watch them. While this is just plain sad with most people on the registries (who really aren't all that evil), it's absolutely terrifying when it comes to those who really are serial rapists and/or actual child predators, because now nobody knows where they are because they've been forced to avoid living in any kind of place where it would be feasible to keep tabs on them! To quote a Website/{{Cracked}} article on the topic of misaimed laws...

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*** It gets worse when the said a sex offender tries to get a job or move into a housing project, only to be turned away by employers who don't want a sexual predator working in their business and concerned parents not wanting the guy to be near their kids, even if he lives far away from a school. This forces the sex offenders to live in the streets homeless and may return to a life of crime. Even worse, because U.S. laws function by specifically prohibiting what you can ''not'' do, it means that while sex offenders are not allowed to live near schools, certain housing areas, and within some cities, towns, and subdivisions, which means that that can't be in those areas, it also means that they're forced to live in the outskirts or in surrounding rural areas where it's impossible to track or keep tabs on them because they've been pushed out of areas with police and surveillance as well as where there are people to watch them. While this is just plain sad with most people on the registries (who really aren't all that evil), it's absolutely terrifying when it comes to those who really are serial rapists and/or actual child predators, because now nobody knows where they are because they've been forced to avoid living in any kind of place where it would be feasible to keep tabs on them! To quote a Website/{{Cracked}} article on the topic of misaimed laws...



* Any school shooting will invariably become a ''major'' one of these for that school. The school itself will not be blamed for causing it ([[NewMediaAreEvil rock music, video games, TV]], and/or [[DoesntLikeGuns guns]] will be blamed instead), but suffice to say that unless you yourself actually go or went to that school, said shooting will likely be the only reason you know it exists.

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* Any school shooting will invariably become a ''major'' one of these for that school. The school itself will not be blamed for causing it ([[NewMediaAreEvil rock music, video games, TV]], and/or [[DoesntLikeGuns guns]] will be blamed instead), but suffice to say that unless you yourself actually go or went to that school, said the shooting will likely be the only reason you know it exists.



*** Maybe not so much tornadoes, but building your house in a wildfire zone is rather inexcusable. The US Forest Service are smart people. They know all about forest fires and wildfires and will cheerfully tell you where there is a high risk of said forest and wildfires. If you build your house in one of said zones because of the pretty view, and a wildfire or forest fire occurs, like it does many a year, and then your house burns down, well, that's that. The same goes for flood and hurricane zones. You built your house on sand in a flood zone. Then a flood happens. This isn't in respect to people in developing nations who live in a mudslide zone but have no choice, this is more people who can build their house wherever they really please and do so in a bad area to build a house. However, it's worth keeping in mind that there ''can'' be freak accidents...

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*** Maybe not so much tornadoes, but building your house in a wildfire zone is rather inexcusable. The US Forest Service are smart people. They know all about forest fires and wildfires and will cheerfully tell you where there is a high risk of said forest and wildfires. them occurring. If you build your house in one of said these zones because of the pretty view, and a wildfire or forest fire occurs, like it does many a year, and then your house burns down, well, that's that. The same goes for flood and hurricane zones. You built your house on sand in a flood zone. Then a flood happens. This isn't in respect to people in developing nations who live in a mudslide zone but have no choice, this is more people who can build their house wherever they really please and do so in a bad area to build a house. However, it's worth keeping in mind that there ''can'' be freak accidents...



* The dinosaur [[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Oviraptor]]. Its name means "Egg Thief" because the first fossil specimen was found right next to a clutch of eggs and thus scientists presumed it was stealing them for food. However, it was later found out that those eggs were ''its own'', and it was likely trying to protect them. Despite this, its name has never changed, and it is generally portrayed as an egg robber in most dinosaur media. While it probably did eat eggs to an extent, said eggs were probably not its TrademarkFavoriteFood.

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* The dinosaur [[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Oviraptor]]. Its name means "Egg Thief" because the first fossil specimen was found right next to a clutch of eggs and thus scientists presumed it was stealing them for food. However, it was later found out that those eggs were ''its own'', and it was likely trying to protect them. Despite this, its name has never changed, and it is generally portrayed as an egg robber in most dinosaur media. While it probably did eat eggs to an extent, said eggs they were probably not its TrademarkFavoriteFood.
9th May '16 11:11:09 AM ArJayKay
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* UsefulNotes/CatherineTheGreat was an Enlightened Despot who reformed Russia, planned a coup to dethrone her husband, lead Russia into two successful wars against the Ottomans, and brought Russia into a more important role in European politics. What is she most famous for? The myth that she died [[BestialityIsDepraved while having sex with a stallion]] when it fell upon her. While she was known for her love life (notably with younger men), this myth is completely untrue since she died from a stroke. However, the myth manages to live on due to the fact it's more exciting than what really happened, and is usually referenced in pop-cultural depictions of her.



* UsefulNotes/CatherineTheGreat was an Enlightened Despot who reformed Russia, planned a coup to dethrone her husband, lead Russia into two successful wars against the Ottomans, and brought Russia into a more important role in European politics. What is she most famous for? The myth that she died [[BestialityIsDepraved while having sex with a stallion]] when it fell upon her. While she was known for her love life (notably with younger men), this myth is completely untrue since she died from a stroke. However, the myth manages to live on due to the fact it's more exciting than what really happened, and is usually referenced in pop-cultural depictions of her.



** And then there's South Africa. Its had a hard time shaking its Apartheid past, a regime that has earned many comparisons to Nazi Germany. It also got known for being the go-to source for [[HiredGuns mercenaries]], to the point where the character of a South African mercenary is almost a trope in and of itself. Its a reputation that South Africa has tried to curtail by banning its citizens from joining mercenary groups or [[PrivateMilitaryContractor PMC's]], not that it stops them from trying.

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** And then there's South Africa. Its As mentioned above, it's had a hard time shaking its Apartheid past, a regime that has earned many comparisons to Nazi Germany. It also got known for being the go-to source for [[HiredGuns mercenaries]], to the point where the character of a South African mercenary is almost a trope in and of itself. Its a reputation that South Africa has tried to curtail by banning its citizens from joining mercenary groups or [[PrivateMilitaryContractor PMC's]], not that it stops them from trying.
8th May '16 1:45:14 AM 10-13-2
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** During his final years in the '80s, he was best known for being the foremost advocates for the anti-colorization movement and for his final role (voicing one of ''TheTransformers'').
8th May '16 1:42:43 AM 10-13-2
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** All that having been said, he probably won't ever live down his [[DeerInTheHeadlights spooky, bug-eyed expression]] or his [[NonSpecificallyForeign unidentifiably "ethnic"]] [[note]] he was a German-Hungarian Jew [[/note]] and vaguely effeminate voice.
8th May '16 1:34:37 AM 10-13-2
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* UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell has had his legacy irreparably tainted by his actions in UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}}. In England, he's best known for beheading King Charles I.

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* UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell has had his legacy irreparably tainted by his actions in UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}}. In England, he's best known for beheading King Charles I.I and briefly turning England into [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny a dictatorial republic]].
8th May '16 1:32:35 AM 10-13-2
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* [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Neville "Peace for our time!" Chamberlain]]. Modern history (if not the general public) is starting to have a ''slightly'' better opinion of Chamberlain, namely that although he placated Germany, he may have done so because Britain was extremely not-ready to start fighting either, and needed more time to get ready (which they were). Had he called Hitler on taking over Czechoslovakia, and shooting had started, things might have gone much worse.
* UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell has had his legacy irreparably tainted by his actions in UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}}.

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* [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Neville "Peace for our time!" Chamberlain]]. Modern history (if not the general public) is starting to have a ''slightly'' better opinion of Chamberlain, namely that although he placated Germany, he may have done so because Britain was extremely not-ready to start fighting either, and needed more time to get ready (which they were). Had he called Hitler on taking over Czechoslovakia, and shooting had started, things might have gone much worse.
worse. (Ironically, it's often American conservatives who are the hardest on him, even though Chamberlain was a conservative - or, more accurately, Conservative - himself.)
* UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell has had his legacy irreparably tainted by his actions in UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}}. In England, he's best known for beheading King Charles I.



** In France, de Gaulle is remembered, by leftists, as an authoritarian centrist who made the Fifth Republic into a quasi dictatorship, paved the way for greater suburbanization and destruction of old neighbourhooods. The "May '68" protests was directed against his regime. The right-wing remember him as that guy who sold out Algeria, the extreme-right (aka Vichy-apologists) hate him for the ''liberation of France'' itself.

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** Generally, the entire Anglo-Saxon world thinks of him as the prototypical FrenchJerk.
** In France, de Gaulle is remembered, by leftists, as an authoritarian centrist who made the Fifth Republic into a quasi dictatorship, paved the way for greater suburbanization and destruction of old neighbourhooods. The "May '68" protests was directed against his regime. The right-wing remember him as that guy who sold out Algeria, the extreme-right (aka Vichy-apologists) hate him for the ''liberation of France'' itself. It's proof positive that the GoldenMeanFallacy simply doesn't work.




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* Jacques Chirac is best known for keeping France out of the Iraq War, allegedly because he had negotiated trade deals with Saddam Hussein. As a result, he's seen by Americans - and by some of his own people - as either corrupt or a coward, or both. And like Chamberlain, he gets labeled a pantywaist leftist despite actually being a Conservative.




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* Porfirio Diaz is best remembered as a hypocrite who [[FullCircleRevolution championed liberalism in the early years of his political career and then became a dictator]]. After the Mexican Revolution, some Mexicans even began to depict him as evil incarnate, spreading stories like the one that as a boy he maliciously set his brother on fire. (In truth, while Diaz did become an authoritarian, he was always a benevolent despot who merely had CondescendingCompassion for the lower classes.) He's also remembered for his snobbery and [[YouAreWhatYouHate self-hating racism]] in powdering his face to appear more white; while the face-powdering may or may not be true, there is no evidence that Diaz ever tried to hide or had anything but pride in his mestizo heritage.
8th May '16 1:10:06 AM 10-13-2
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* Speaking of ''Playboy'' pinups, Anna Nicole Smith is practically an inversion. If all had gone well, she ''would'' have been remembered for her accomplishments at the beginning of her career in 1992-1993: becoming the tallest and heaviest Playmate in history, becoming the tallest and heaviest Playmate of the Year, and in general for her "all-American girl" image. Instead, she's remembered for everything that happened after that over the remaining 13 years of her earthly existence: being a GoldDigger (which was to some extent an unfair accusation), being a cheesy B-movie actress, gaining a gargantuan amount of weight and then becoming dangerously skinny on a controversial diet, her alcoholism and drug abuse, starring in a trashy reality TV show, and generally being popularly viewed as a freak.
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