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** Holt's modestly well-known abroad for coining the phrase "All the way with LBJ," in support of LyndonJohnson's [[VietnamWar Vietnam policy]]. Which isn't necessarily better.

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** Holt's modestly well-known abroad for coining the phrase "All the way with LBJ," in support of LyndonJohnson's [[VietnamWar UsefulNotes/LyndonJohnson's [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam policy]]. Which isn't necessarily better.



* Churchill will always be remembered as the PM of Britain during UsefulNotes/WW2, with side helpings of having a lightning wit, and his immense gaffe at Gallipoli. That last one wasn't totally true (Kitchener and Hamilton were responsible for those), but he gets blamed for it, which deflects blame from the disasters he actually ''was'' responsible for, in both wars.

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* Churchill UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill will always be remembered as the PM of Britain during UsefulNotes/WW2, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, with side helpings of having a lightning wit, and his immense gaffe at Gallipoli. That last one wasn't totally true (Kitchener and Hamilton were responsible for those), but he gets blamed for it, which deflects blame from the disasters he actually ''was'' responsible for, in both wars.



* UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre is reviled across the world as a KnightTemplar dictator who killed several thousands, and his own close friends Danton and Desmoulins, for the sake of ideology and power. In France, he's the only revolutionary leader who doesn't have a street name in Paris though politicians will occassionally acknowledge his complexity. Even conservative historians admit that Robespierre did not start the terror, that he was never a dictator but merely the most well known of the Committee of Public Safety, that he even saved several lives. Robespierre's name was even adopted by fighters of LaResistance during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. But since Robespierre ''is'' popular among far-leftists and communists, he's anathema to the French mainstream.

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* UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre is reviled across the world as a KnightTemplar dictator who killed several thousands, and his own close friends Danton and Desmoulins, for the sake of ideology and power. In France, he's the only revolutionary leader who doesn't have a street name in Paris though politicians will occassionally occasionally acknowledge his complexity. Even conservative historians admit that Robespierre did not start the terror, that he was never a dictator but merely the most well known of the Committee of Public Safety, that he even saved several lives. Robespierre's name was even adopted by fighters of LaResistance during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. But since Robespierre ''is'' popular among far-leftists and communists, he's anathema to the French mainstream.



* UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter, despite being able to fend off '''[[KillerRabbit giant killer rabbits]]''' will only be remembered for being an abysmal failure as president. Most of the things that happened on his watch - The revolution in Iran, the continued economic crisis[[note]]Peopl forget that under Reagan the crisis persisted for several years and the "recovery" mostly made the rich richer while not helping the middle class and came at the price of an unprecedented deficit[[/note]] and the hostage crisis - are also things the President could do preciously little about. The fact that the hostages were released just hours after he left office serves as the ultimate TakeThat by the Iranian regime against him.

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* UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter, despite being able to fend off '''[[KillerRabbit giant killer rabbits]]''' will only be remembered for being an abysmal failure as president. Most of the things that happened on his watch - The revolution in Iran, the continued economic crisis[[note]]Peopl crisis[[note]]People forget that under Reagan the crisis persisted for several years and the "recovery" mostly made the rich richer while not helping the middle class and came at the price of an unprecedented deficit[[/note]] and the hostage crisis - are also things the President could do preciously little about. The fact that the hostages were released just hours after he left office serves as the ultimate TakeThat by the Iranian regime against him.



* Similarly, UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy remains one of the great liberal icons of American politics and is admired for his many strides in diplomacy and civil rights during his short time in office; however, revelations over his unfaithfulness to his wife Jackie in multiple affairs, among them an alleged one with Marilyn Monroe, have brought Kennedy's personal image back into question.
** Politically, JFK himself was furious over the spectacular failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, which would further damage relations between Cuba and the United States for many more years to come.

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* Similarly, UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy remains one of the great liberal icons of American politics and is admired for his many strides in diplomacy and civil rights during his short time in office; however, revelations over his unfaithfulness to his wife Jackie in multiple affairs, among them an alleged one with Marilyn Monroe, Creator/MarilynMonroe, have brought Kennedy's personal image back into question.
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question. Politically, JFK himself was furious over the spectacular failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, which would further damage relations between Cuba and the United States for many more years to come.



%% Perhaps the most infamous of these is Rod Blagojevich, who's attempt to sell Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat for personal profit upon Obama's election to the presidency led to him being villified by the public and press alike; Unrepentant, he was barred from holding any future office in the state before being sent to prison over the affair.

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%% Perhaps the most infamous of these is Rod Blagojevich, who's attempt to sell Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat for personal profit upon Obama's election to the presidency led to him being villified vilified by the public and press alike; Unrepentant, he was barred from holding any future office in the state before being sent to prison over the affair.



* In Germany, JFK will always be remembered for that one phrase: "Ich bin ein Berliner" (and '''not''' because everyone understood it as "I am a jelly doughnut").[[note]]About this UrbanLegend: while a certain type of jelly doughnut is indeed called 'Berliner' in parts of Germany, in Berlin itself they are always called 'Pfannkuchen' (pancakes), and the possibility to accidentally misunderstand the phrase is in any case zero.[[/note]]
* Despite his incredible legal career, most people know Clarence Thomas from the sexual harassment charges against him.
** And for political wonks, he's most known for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas#Voting_alignment how consistently he votes alongside Justice Scalia]], and ''very'' well-known for not asking questions of the lawyers that present their cases to the court... [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that is, until Scalia's controversial passing in 2016 that left a vacancy which is, suffice it to say, taking a long time to fill]].

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* In Germany, JFK will always be remembered for that one phrase: "Ich bin ein Berliner" (and '''not''' because everyone understood it as "I am a jelly doughnut").[[note]]About this UrbanLegend: {{Urban Legend|s}}: while a certain type of jelly doughnut is indeed called 'Berliner' in parts of Germany, in Berlin itself they are always called 'Pfannkuchen' (pancakes), and the possibility to accidentally misunderstand the phrase is in any case zero.[[/note]]
* Despite his incredible legal career, most people know Clarence Thomas from the sexual harassment charges against him.
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him. And for political wonks, he's most known for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas#Voting_alignment how consistently he votes alongside Justice Scalia]], and ''very'' well-known for not asking questions of the lawyers that present their cases to the court... [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that is, until Scalia's controversial passing in 2016 that left a vacancy which is, suffice it to say, taking a long time to fill]].



* Prior to being elected President of the United States, General UsefulNotes/WilliamHenryHarrison spent many successful years as a Congressman and a Governor (the very first governor of the Indiana Territory, no less), and he was arguably one of the most important military leaders of early 19th century America, playing crucial roles in "Tecumseh's War" and the WarOf1812, and defeating the last major Indian military confederation in the United States; his victory at the Battle of Tippecanoe, in fact, was so celebrated in its time that it allowed Harrison to win the presidency almost entirely on the strength of his "war hero" reputation. Today, though? Unless you're an American history buff, you probably just know Harrison as "That guy who was only President for a month because he was too stupid to dress warm at his inauguration."

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* Prior to being elected President of the United States, General UsefulNotes/WilliamHenryHarrison spent many successful years as a Congressman and a Governor (the very first governor of the Indiana Territory, no less), and he was arguably one of the most important military leaders of early 19th century America, playing crucial roles in "Tecumseh's War" and the WarOf1812, UsefulNotes/WarOf1812, and defeating the last major Indian military confederation in the United States; his victory at the Battle of Tippecanoe, in fact, was so celebrated in its time that it allowed Harrison to win the presidency almost entirely on the strength of his "war hero" reputation. Today, though? Unless you're an American history buff, you probably just know Harrison as "That guy who was only President for a month because he was too stupid to dress warm at his inauguration."



** He paid a substitute to serve in his place in the UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar, and was accused of fathering a child out of wedlock during his first Presidential campaign.[[note]]The actual parentage of Oscar Folsom Cleveland, the child in question, was never determined decisively; Grover Cleveland, as the only bachelor among several possible candidates, assumed responsibility for the child's support.[[/note]]
* During his lifetime, William Jennings Bryan was primarily known as '''the''' major figure in the American Populist movement, leading major anti-imperialist, anti-trust and anti-gold standard campaigns that empowered millions of Americans and arguably ''invented'' modern popular democracy. Among other things, he became a hero to the anti-war movement for resigning his position as Secretary of State to protest UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and he was nicknamed "The Great Commoner" for his vocal hatred of elitism in American politics. At the end of his life, though, he also argued for the prosecution in the infamous "Scopes Monkey Trial" of 1925, where he vehemently fought to keep Darwinian evolution out of American public school science classes. For all of his contributions to populism, that last part has inevitably tainted his legacy, and it's now the only thing about him that many people know.
** He's also remembered for being [[MemeticLoser the guy who unsuccessfully ran for the presidency as the Democratic Party's nominee four times]]

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** He paid a substitute to serve in his place in the UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar, UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, and was accused of fathering a child out of wedlock during his first Presidential campaign.[[note]]The actual parentage of Oscar Folsom Cleveland, the child in question, was never determined decisively; Grover Cleveland, as the only bachelor among several possible candidates, assumed responsibility for the child's support.[[/note]]
* During his lifetime, William Jennings Bryan was primarily known as '''the''' major figure in the American Populist movement, leading major anti-imperialist, anti-trust and anti-gold standard campaigns that empowered millions of Americans and arguably ''invented'' modern popular democracy. Among other things, he became a hero to the anti-war movement for resigning his position as Secretary of State to protest UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and he was nicknamed "The Great Commoner" for his vocal hatred of elitism in American politics. At the end of his life, though, he also argued for the prosecution in the infamous "Scopes Monkey Trial" of 1925, where he vehemently fought to keep Darwinian evolution out of American public school science classes. For all of his contributions to populism, that last part has inevitably tainted his legacy, and it's now the only thing about him that many people know.
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know. He's also remembered for being [[MemeticLoser the guy who unsuccessfully ran for the presidency as the Democratic Party's nominee four times]]times]].



* UsefulNotes/NikitaKhrushchev is best remembered in the US for hitting a table with a shoe; for his attempts to get into Disneyland; for his role, along with JFK's, in precipitating the Cuban Missile Crisis; and and for his "WE WILL BURY YOU!" speech (though a better translation is the less aggressive sounding "We will be there when you're buried".) In Russia he is remembered for the shoe and for his obsession with growing corn.

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* UsefulNotes/NikitaKhrushchev is best remembered in the US for hitting a table with a shoe; for his attempts to get into Disneyland; for his role, along with JFK's, in precipitating the Cuban Missile Crisis; and and for his "WE WILL BURY YOU!" speech (though a better translation is the less aggressive sounding "We will be there when you're buried".) In Russia he is remembered for the shoe and for his obsession with growing corn.



** The president who was Herrera Campins' predecessor and Lusinchi's sucessor, the late Carlos Andrés Pérez, could never live the fact that the infamous revolt "El Caracazo" happened on his first month of office during his second period in office, a revolt that was allgedly fueled by the economic measures he had to take as first thing once he got the chair (RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment here over how truthful this is). Even when he was involved on corruption scandals who finally cost him the chair, the Caracazo shadows went on make the perception of his acts even worse. The "Caracazo" itself hasn't been live down, and it's pointed as the reason Venezuela has the lowest gas prices despite the very high cost to the couyntry: because the revolt was attributed to a protest against increasing bus fares, which allegedly were caused on turn by an increase in gas prices, no one wants to adjust gas prices in fear that something worse can come.

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** The president who was Herrera Campins' predecessor and Lusinchi's sucessor, successor, the late Carlos Andrés Pérez, could never live the fact that the infamous revolt "El Caracazo" happened on his first month of office during his second period in office, a revolt that was allgedly allegedly fueled by the economic measures he had to take as first thing once he got the chair (RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment here over how truthful this is). Even when he was involved on corruption scandals who finally cost him the chair, the Caracazo shadows went on make the perception of his acts even worse. The "Caracazo" itself hasn't been live down, and it's pointed as the reason Venezuela has the lowest gas prices despite the very high cost to the couyntry: country: because the revolt was attributed to a protest against increasing bus fares, which allegedly were caused on turn by an increase in gas prices, no one wants to adjust gas prices in fear that something worse can come.



* Sally Field is one of America's most famous actresses, with a string of iconic roles (as well as two Oscars and three Emmys) under her belt. But what does the layperson remember her for? Gidget? The Flying Nun? Sybil? Norma Rae? [[Series/BrothersAndSisters Nora Walker]]? Even Creator/RobinWilliams' ex in ''Film/MrsDoubtfire''? Nope - her 1985 Best Actress Oscar acceptance speech for ''Places in The Heart'': BKA, "[[BeamMeUpScotty You like me! You really like me!]]" (P.S. How many people have actually seen ''Places in the Heart''?)

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* Sally Field Creator/SallyField is one of America's most famous actresses, with a string of iconic roles (as well as two Oscars and three Emmys) under her belt. But what does the layperson remember her for? Gidget? The Flying Nun? Sybil? Norma Rae? [[Series/BrothersAndSisters Nora Walker]]? Even Creator/RobinWilliams' ex in ''Film/MrsDoubtfire''? Nope - her 1985 Best Actress Oscar acceptance speech for ''Places in The Heart'': BKA, "[[BeamMeUpScotty You like me! You really like me!]]" (P.S. How many people have actually seen ''Places in the Heart''?)



* Jenny [=McCarthy=] was primarily known as an ex-''Playboy'' model and actress until she started her anti-vaccine kick in the late 2000s, making incendiary public statements against vaccinations and telling interviewers that it wouldn't be her "fucking fault" if communicable diseases came back as a result. Not only was the science she based her ramblings on discovered to be fraudulent, but her statements were blamed for a rash of preventable outbreaks after parents refused to give kids their shots. Jenny is nowadays regarded as a one-woman public health menace.
** Similarly, Suzanne Somers has become synonymous with pseudoscientific theories about cancer treatment.

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* Jenny [=McCarthy=] Creator/JennyMcCarthy was primarily known as an ex-''Playboy'' model and actress until she started her anti-vaccine kick in the late 2000s, making incendiary public statements against vaccinations and telling interviewers that it wouldn't be her "fucking fault" if communicable diseases came back as a result. Not only was the science she based her ramblings on discovered to be fraudulent, but her statements were blamed for a rash of preventable outbreaks after parents refused to give kids their shots. Jenny is nowadays regarded as a one-woman public health menace.
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menace. Similarly, Suzanne Somers has become synonymous with pseudoscientific theories about cancer treatment.



* Music/KylieMinogue to the rest of the world: Famous pop star and actress. Kylie Minogue to the U.S.: Known for her cover of "The Locomotion" in the late 80s, the 2001 smash hit "Can't Get You Outta My Head"... [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] [[WTHCastingAgency playing Cammy in the]] ''Film/StreetFighter'' movie. Oh, and [[OldShame starring]] [[SoBadItsHorrible in]] ''Film/BioDome''

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* Music/KylieMinogue to the rest of the world: Famous pop star and actress. Kylie Minogue to the U.S.: Known for her cover of "The Locomotion" in the late 80s, the 2001 smash hit "Can't Get You Outta My Head"... [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] [[WTHCastingAgency playing Cammy in the]] ''Film/StreetFighter'' movie. Oh, and [[OldShame starring]] [[SoBadItsHorrible in]] ''Film/BioDome''''Film/BioDome''.



** Those who claim France didn't put up a fight forget that during UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne France lost nearly 5% of its population doing exactly that.[[note]]France incurred 1.4 million military and civilian casualties during World War I, the second-highest of any Allied country and third-highest overall. Only Russia and Germany took heavier casualties, with much larger populations to absorb them, so proportionately their losses were smaller.[[/note]] France was still recovering when Germany came rolling over the border in 1940.

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** Those who claim France didn't put up a fight forget that during UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI France lost nearly 5% of its population doing exactly that.[[note]]France incurred 1.4 million military and civilian casualties during World War I, the second-highest of any Allied country and third-highest overall. Only Russia and Germany took heavier casualties, with much larger populations to absorb them, so proportionately their losses were smaller.[[/note]] France was still recovering when Germany came rolling over the border in 1940.



* [[TheSixties The 1960s]]. If you were between the ages of 18 and 25 during the final third of that decade, then you were a lazy, stupid, drug-addled, countercultural hippie - end of story. Also, you spat on returning UsefulNotes/VietnamWar soldiers - when in fact much of the hatred directed at Vietnam veterans came from ''the political right'' for having allegedly embarrassed the United States, and most hippies did not seriously involve themselves in politics anyway.

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* [[TheSixties The 1960s]]. If you were between the ages of 18 and 25 during the final third of that decade, then you were a lazy, stupid, drug-addled, countercultural hippie - end of story. Also, you spat on returning UsefulNotes/VietnamWar [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam War]] soldiers - when in fact much of the hatred directed at Vietnam veterans came from ''the political right'' for having allegedly embarrassed the United States, and most hippies did not seriously involve themselves in politics anyway.



* John Sedgwick was a competent Union general regarded as a FatherToHisMen whose death was mourned by not only his own side, but [[WorthyOpponent Robert E. Lee]] as well. Unfortunately, he's more well known for [[SedgwickSpeech the circumstances of his death]], which have become the topic of humor.

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* John Sedgwick was a competent Union general regarded as a FatherToHisMen AFatherToHisMen whose death was mourned by not only his own side, but [[WorthyOpponent Robert E. Lee]] as well. Unfortunately, he's more well known for [[SedgwickSpeech the circumstances of his death]], which have become the topic of humor.



* UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla, sometimes called "the man who invented the modern world". Just about any modern appliance that uses electricity requires the use of a device that was invented by him, or is an adaptation of a Tesla design. What's he remembered the most for? "Inventing" the DeathRay, or other such fanciful weapons of mass destruction. In fact, modern interpretations of him tend to {{Flanderise}} into a MadScientist, despite the many, ''many'' legitimate contributions he made to the utilization of electricity.
** His name is slowly becoming redeemed however with many articles and people on the internet arguing for his place among some of the greatest inventors of the time, comparable to (and some consider him far beyond) ThomasEdison.

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* UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla, sometimes called "the man who invented the modern world". Just about any modern appliance that uses electricity requires the use of a device that was invented by him, or is an adaptation of a Tesla design. What's he remembered the most for? "Inventing" the DeathRay, or other such fanciful weapons of mass destruction. In fact, modern interpretations of him tend to {{Flanderise}} {{Flanderiz|ation}}e into a MadScientist, despite the many, ''many'' legitimate contributions he made to the utilization of electricity.
** His name is slowly becoming redeemed however with many articles and people on the internet Internet arguing for his place among some of the greatest inventors of the time, comparable to (and some consider him far beyond) ThomasEdison.UsefulNotes/ThomasEdison.



* General UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur has had his legacy tainted by his controversial actions in the Korean War. Harry Truman also suffered for this fiasco as well ([=MacArthur=] was given a hero's welcome home, and the whole thing led to Truman not attempting a second full term as president after finishing Roosevelt's fourth and final term and his first term.)

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* General UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur has had his legacy tainted by his controversial actions in the Korean War.UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar. Harry Truman also suffered for this fiasco as well ([=MacArthur=] was given a hero's welcome home, and the whole thing led to Truman not attempting a second full term as president after finishing Roosevelt's fourth and final term and his first term.)



* Kansas is forever seen as being stuck in the early 20th century, thanks to stuff like ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', which was written and/or made in the late nineteenth/early twentieth century. That's like thinking that New York is still stuck in the late 1800's because you saw it in ''GangsOfNewYork''. Or for being very boring politically (Bob Dole, anyone?), even though Kansans were in the 1890s rabid supporters of the People's ("Populist") party - the Occupy Wall Street movement of its day. (Of course, most Kansans have consciously disavowed their radical political heritage, so they may not mind it much.)

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* Kansas is forever seen as being stuck in the early 20th century, thanks to stuff like ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', which was written and/or made in the late nineteenth/early twentieth century. That's like thinking that New York is still stuck in the late 1800's because you saw it in ''GangsOfNewYork''.''Film/GangsOfNewYork''. Or for being very boring politically (Bob Dole, anyone?), even though Kansans were in the 1890s rabid supporters of the People's ("Populist") party - the Occupy Wall Street movement of its day. (Of course, most Kansans have consciously disavowed their radical political heritage, so they may not mind it much.)



** Not to mention being the TropeNamer for "PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad!" and other sensationalist headlines.

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** Not to mention being the TropeNamer {{Trope Namer|s}} for "PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad!" and other sensationalist headlines.



** And then there's South Africa. As mentioned above, it's had a hard time shaking its Apartheid past, a regime that has earned many comparisons to Nazi Germany. It also got known for being the go-to source for [[HiredGuns mercenaries]], to the point where the character of a South African mercenary is almost a trope in and of itself. Its a reputation that South Africa has tried to curtail by banning its citizens from joining mercenary groups or [[PrivateMilitaryContractor PMC's]], not that it stops them from trying.

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** And then there's South Africa. As mentioned above, it's had a hard time shaking its Apartheid past, a regime that has earned many comparisons to Nazi Germany. It also got known for being the go-to source for [[HiredGuns mercenaries]], to the point where the character of a South African mercenary is almost a trope in and of itself. Its a reputation that South Africa has tried to curtail by banning its citizens from joining mercenary groups or [[PrivateMilitaryContractor [[PrivateMilitaryContractors PMC's]], not that it stops them from trying.



** Colombia in particular got hit by this ''hard''. Between the [[ForeverWar seemingly never-ending]] cocaine-funded FARC insurgency and playing host to drug kingpins like Pablo Escobar, Colombia has a reputation as an unsafe place exploding with drug-fueled violence. (Of course, Colombia ''is'' one of the world's most crime-ridden countries, with one bus in the city of Cali having its passengers robbed ''[[OnceAnEpisode every single day]]''; but, to say the least, it's unlikely that so much vicious crime is attributable to drugs alone.) They have awesome coffee, though.

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** Colombia in particular got hit by this ''hard''. Between the [[ForeverWar seemingly never-ending]] cocaine-funded FARC insurgency and playing host to drug kingpins like Pablo Escobar, Colombia has a reputation as an unsafe place exploding with drug-fueled violence. (Of course, Colombia ''is'' one of the world's most crime-ridden countries, with one bus in the city of Cali having its passengers robbed ''[[OnceAnEpisode ''[[OncePerEpisode every single day]]''; but, to say the least, it's unlikely that so much vicious crime is attributable to drugs alone.) They have awesome coffee, though.



*** The molestations was mocked in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' where the majority of Catholic members openly admit to molesting and having sex with children because [[AintNoRule there's nothing in the Bible that says you can't have sex with children]]. Funnily enough, the OnlySaneMan who cried foul at the whole thing was a clergyman from South Park, a town known to be full of violent idiots.

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*** The molestations was mocked in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' where the majority of Catholic members openly admit to molesting and having sex with children because [[AintNoRule [[LoopholeAbuse there's nothing in the Bible that says you can't have sex with children]]. Funnily enough, the OnlySaneMan who cried foul at the whole thing was a clergyman from South Park, a town known to be full of violent idiots.



* Creator/{{Atari}} will never live down the release of ''E.T. The Extraterrestrial'' on the coveted Atari 2600, a game whose spectacularly bad sales and reception contributed to UsefulNotes/TheGreatVideoGameCrashOf1983, and [[GenreKiller nearly destroyed the viability of the industry altogether]]. Its failure was inevitable, since not only did Atari give only one programmer six weeks to make the entire game, but they made 12 million copies of the game, at a time when there were only 10 million Atari 2600 consoles. So great was its failure that Atari buried the unsold cartridges along with countless other unsold games and consoles in a New Mexico landfill, where it would remain buried for decades after.
** Also noteworthy is their release of the Atari 5200, whose controllers quickly became infamous for breaking frequently due to their cheap production quality, something that enraged WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd when he attempted to review the console.
** Finally, the Atari Jaguar, which touted itself as the first 64-bit console of its kind and was aggressively promoted as such until gamers noted the actual quality of its game library. Equally infamous was its controller, which was also fragile and especially bulky with its cumbersome numeric keypad. [[CreatorKiller Owing to its poor sales and broken promises, Atari accepted defeat and eventually went bankrupt.]]

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* Creator/{{Atari}} will never live down the release of ''E.T. The Extraterrestrial'' ''VideoGame/ETTheExtraterrestrial'' on the coveted Atari 2600, a game whose spectacularly bad sales and reception contributed to UsefulNotes/TheGreatVideoGameCrashOf1983, and [[GenreKiller nearly destroyed the viability of the industry altogether]]. Its failure was inevitable, since not only did Atari give only one programmer six weeks to make the entire game, but they made 12 million copies of the game, at a time when there were only 10 million Atari 2600 UsefulNotes/{{Atari 2600}} consoles. So great was its failure that Atari buried the unsold cartridges along with countless other unsold games and consoles in a New Mexico landfill, where it would remain buried for decades after.
** Also noteworthy is their release of the Atari 5200, UsefulNotes/{{Atari 5200}}, whose controllers quickly became infamous for breaking frequently due to their cheap production quality, something that enraged WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd when he attempted to review the console.
** Finally, the Atari Jaguar, UsefulNotes/AtariJaguar, which touted itself as the first 64-bit console of its kind and was aggressively promoted as such until gamers noted the actual quality of its game library. Equally infamous was its controller, which was also fragile and especially bulky with its cumbersome numeric keypad. [[CreatorKiller Owing to its poor sales and broken promises, Atari accepted defeat and eventually went bankrupt.]]
3rd Sep '16 7:49:54 AM Jhonny
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* UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter, despite being able to fend off '''[[KillerRabbit giant killer rabbits]]''' will only be remembered for being an abysmal failure as president.

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* UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter, despite being able to fend off '''[[KillerRabbit giant killer rabbits]]''' will only be remembered for being an abysmal failure as president. Most of the things that happened on his watch - The revolution in Iran, the continued economic crisis[[note]]Peopl forget that under Reagan the crisis persisted for several years and the "recovery" mostly made the rich richer while not helping the middle class and came at the price of an unprecedented deficit[[/note]] and the hostage crisis - are also things the President could do preciously little about. The fact that the hostages were released just hours after he left office serves as the ultimate TakeThat by the Iranian regime against him.
3rd Sep '16 7:37:34 AM Jhonny
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* [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Neville "Peace for our time!" Chamberlain]]. Modern history (if not the general public) is starting to have a ''slightly'' better opinion of Chamberlain, namely that although he placated Germany, he may have done so because Britain was extremely not-ready to start fighting either, and needed more time to get ready (which they were). Had he called Hitler on taking over Czechoslovakia, and shooting had started, things might have gone much worse. (Ironically, it's often American conservatives who are the hardest on him, even though Chamberlain was a conservative - or, more accurately, Conservative - himself.)

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* [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Neville "Peace for our time!" Chamberlain]]. Modern history (if not the general public) is starting to have a ''slightly'' better opinion of Chamberlain, namely that although he placated Germany, he may have done so because Britain was extremely not-ready to start fighting either, and needed more time to get ready (which they were). Had he called Hitler on taking over Czechoslovakia, and shooting had started, things might have gone much worse. (Ironically, it's often American conservatives who are the hardest on him, even though Chamberlain was a conservative - or, more accurately, Conservative - himself.)) However, other historians point out that Germany was ''also'' not ready for full on war and the Czech factories that fell into German hands undamaged were an extremely valuable asset throughout the war. Also, Hitler's planned invasion of Czechoslovakia was done as a war game exercise and the paratroopers spectacularly failed to do what they were supposed to. In addition around 1938 there was a plot brewing to assassinate and/or depose Hitler from within the Wehrmacht that got delayed and delayed until Hitler's political and military successes made it unfeasible. But to be fair to Chamberlain, he could not possibly have known any of that.
2nd Sep '16 5:45:06 PM scipio22
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* President UsefulNotes/HerbertHoover is continually remembered as the president who caused the Wall Street Crash of 1929 despite the Crash being largely the result of predecessor UsefulNotes/CalvinCoolidge's policies. No one remembers he was known as the "Great Humanitarian" during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI for his aid overseas (in Belgium, his name even became a word meaning "to help"), and he saw the crash coming and tried to avert it, but is remembered as someone who "did nothing". He's now so associated with disastrous economic policy that, for example, one of the more memorable lines of the 1992 election was UsefulNotes/BillClinton repeatedly referring to the incumbent President [[UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush George Herbert Walker Bush]] (who he defeated) as "George Herbert Hoover Bush".

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* President UsefulNotes/HerbertHoover is continually remembered as the president who caused the Wall Street Crash of 1929 despite the Crash being largely the result of predecessor UsefulNotes/CalvinCoolidge's policies.1929. No one remembers he was known as the "Great Humanitarian" during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI for his aid overseas (in Belgium, his name even became a word meaning "to help"), and he saw the crash coming and tried to avert it, but is remembered as someone who "did nothing". He's now so associated with disastrous economic policy that, for example, one of the more memorable lines of the 1992 election was UsefulNotes/BillClinton repeatedly referring to the incumbent President [[UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush George Herbert Walker Bush]] (who he defeated) as "George Herbert Hoover Bush".
21st Aug '16 6:36:32 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Late Venezuelan President Luis Herrera Campins was an affable man who had the bad luck of being the president in office during the infamous devaluation of 1983. But ''that'' he lived with; what he didn't live down was the nickname political humorists (and even serious historians) gave to him, "Toronto", not after the Canadian city but after a round hazelnut chocolate bonbon of that name, which were passed like water whenever he had a public appearance to give him an image of "jolly fat man". Most of the parodies involved represent him as a FatBastard munching the afore-mentioned bonbons, despite Mr. Herrera never been shown eating them. The poor man spent the next 25+ years baffled by the meme, constantly answering journalists "I even like chocolate that much" when asked about the issue (and after his death he was revealed to have been ''allergic'' to cocoa products all along).

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* Late Venezuelan President Luis Herrera Campins was an affable man who had the bad luck of being the president in office during the infamous devaluation of 1983. But ''that'' he lived with; what he didn't live down was the nickname political humorists (and even serious historians) gave to him, "Toronto", not after the Canadian city but after a round hazelnut chocolate bonbon of that name, which were passed like water whenever he had a public appearance to give him an image of "jolly "[[BigFun jolly fat man".man]]". Most of the parodies involved represent him as a FatBastard munching the afore-mentioned bonbons, despite Mr. Herrera never been shown eating them. The poor man spent the next 25+ years baffled by the meme, constantly answering journalists "I even like chocolate that much" when asked about the issue (and after his death he was revealed to have been ''allergic'' to cocoa products all along).
4th Aug '16 11:41:49 AM DracoKanji
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* Nestle will never live down its unethical marketing of baby formula in the third world. The company still faces boycotts over it.

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* Nestle will never live down its unethical marketing of baby formula in the third world. The company still faces boycotts over it. Their CEO later stating that he doesn't believe clean drinking water to be a right, but a privilege, likewise isn't going away and isn't helping with the previous accusations.
4th Aug '16 12:00:35 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* Charles Lee in his heyday was considered one of the finest British officers alive and his experience was considered so invaluable to the American Revolution that it was once expected that he would lead the Americans to victory against the British when he volunteered his services. Instead, he is now best remembered for nearly costing America the Battle of Monmouth when he withdrew in the thick of battle, insulting ''George Washington'' himself and losing his command for it. Later allegations of treason and collaboration with the British only amplified his blackened record.
* Benedict Arnold is not remembered for any of the many victories he won for the American cause in the Revolution, including the tide-turning Battle of Saratoga, but for his betrayal of America and his attempt to surrender West Point to the British for a command and a hefty pension. His very name has since become synonymous with treason.
24th Jul '16 7:36:48 AM KoopaKid17
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24th Jul '16 7:36:12 AM KoopaKid17
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* Bart Sibrel is a conspiracy theorist who, among other things, claims that the moon landings were faked. Most people outside of the conspiracy theorist community only know that name via an incident in 2002, where he confronted Buzz Aldrin (a member of the Apollo 11 mission and the second man to walk on The Moon) outside of a conference in Hollywood, California. After going as far as physically poking Aldrin with a Bible he was carrying (asking to swear on it that he actually went to the moon), the then-72 year-old Aldrin [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wcrkxOgzhU punched Sibrel]] in the face. Police declined to pursue charges after several witnesses swore to Sibrel's harassment.
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* Bart Sibrel is a conspiracy theorist who, among other things, claims that the moon landings were faked. Most people outside of the conspiracy theorist community only know that name via an incident in 2002, where he confronted Buzz Aldrin (a member of the Apollo 11 mission and the second man to walk on The Moon) outside of a conference in Hollywood, California. After going as far as physically poking Aldrin with a Bible he was carrying (asking to swear on it that he actually went to the moon), the then-72 year-old Aldrin [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wcrkxOgzhU punched Sibrel]] in the face. Police declined to pursue charges after several witnesses swore to Sibrel's harassment.
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21st Jul '16 10:40:42 PM Freezer
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* Bart Sibrel is a conspiracy theorist who, among other things, claims that the moon landings were faked. Most people outside of the conspiracy theorist community only know that name via an incident in 2002, where he confronted Buzz Aldrin (a member of the Apollo 11 mission and the second man to walk on The Moon) outside of a conference in Hollywood, California. After going as far as physically poking Aldrin with a Bible he was carrying (asking to swear on it that he actually went to the moon), the then-72 year-old Aldrin punched Sibrel in the face. Police declined to pursue charges after several witnesses swore to Sibrel's harassment.

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* Bart Sibrel is a conspiracy theorist who, among other things, claims that the moon landings were faked. Most people outside of the conspiracy theorist community only know that name via an incident in 2002, where he confronted Buzz Aldrin (a member of the Apollo 11 mission and the second man to walk on The Moon) outside of a conference in Hollywood, California. California. After going as far as physically poking Aldrin with a Bible he was carrying (asking to swear on it that he actually went to the moon), the then-72 year-old Aldrin [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wcrkxOgzhU punched Sibrel Sibrel]] in the face. Police declined to pursue charges after several witnesses swore to Sibrel's harassment.
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