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23rd Mar '17 1:19:40 PM Gess
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** The MookChivalry of the rest of the Masters' massive fleet just watching Dany destroy a ship without even trying to interfere is especially silly since a Season 5 "Histories & Lore" featurette talks about how this is ''exactly'' how her distant ancestor Prince Jacaerys was killed during the Dance of the Dragons.

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** The MookChivalry of the rest of the Masters' massive fleet just watching Dany destroy a ship without even trying to interfere is especially silly since a Season 5 "Histories & Lore" featurette talks about how this is ''exactly'' how her distant ancestor Prince Jacaerys was killed during the Dance of the Dragons. Neiter does this fleet ever land any troops to actually take the city prompting the question what exactly were they there for?
** And before that the entire fleet just sneaks up to the city, completely unexpected and leaving the defenders entirely unprepared. A fleet dwarfing that of Stannis, which the defenders of King's Landing were aware of days, if not weeks, in advance.
23rd Feb '17 3:19:21 AM NightShade96
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* Dany freeing her other two dragons is played as a brilliant piece of TakeAThirdOption despite being the blindingly obvious solution, compounded by the Masters reacting to it as if they somehow forgot dragons existed despite specifically demanding that they be slaugthered as one of terms of Dany's surrender.

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* Dany freeing her other two dragons is played as a brilliant piece of TakeAThirdOption despite being the blindingly obvious solution, which is compounded by the Masters reacting to it as if they somehow forgot dragons existed existed, despite specifically demanding that they be slaugthered slaughtered as one of the terms of Dany's surrender.
23rd Feb '17 2:00:44 AM Gess
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* Dany freeing her other two dragons is played as a brilliant piece of TakeAThirdOption despite being the blindingly obvious solution, compounded by the Masters reacting to it as if they somehow forgot dragons existed.

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* Dany freeing her other two dragons is played as a brilliant piece of TakeAThirdOption despite being the blindingly obvious solution, compounded by the Masters reacting to it as if they somehow forgot dragons existed.existed despite specifically demanding that they be slaugthered as one of terms of Dany's surrender.
19th Feb '17 7:50:51 PM dustyham
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* It's hard to take the Unsullied seriously when you notice that their shields look like nipples.

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* It's It can be hard to take the Unsullied seriously when you notice that their shields look like nipples.



** Littlefinger's accent in this episode and onward. It's really had to take all his MagnificentBastard scheming seriously when he's pretending to be Irish Batman. It gets even ''worse'' in Season 4, especially on the ship with Sansa: "Oy'm teeking you… to The Veeeeel," and by Season 6 it's so bad that ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' gave him two credits as "Littlefinger's accent" and "Littlefinger's other accent."

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** Littlefinger's accent in this episode and onward. It's has been wandering all over the place since Season 2, making it really had hard to take all his MagnificentBastard scheming seriously seriously, especially when he's pretending to be Irish Batman. It gets even ''worse'' in Season 4, especially on the ship with Sansa: "Oy'm teeking you… to The Veeeeel," and by Season 6 it's so bad that ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' gave him two credits as "Littlefinger's accent" and "Littlefinger's other accent."



* In "The Watchers on the Wall", when the giant shoots a man with its giant bow and arrow, the man practically gets launched into space.

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* In "The Watchers on the Wall", when Wall" has several.
** When
the giant shoots a man with its giant bow and arrow, the man practically gets [[BlownAcrossTheRoom launched into space.space]].



** Olly's confident "I've got your back" nod to Jon after spending the episode hugging his knees in abject terror (and occasionally operating the elevator) was too incongruous for some viewers to do anything but laugh at.

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** Olly's confident "I've got your back" nod to Jon after spending most of the episode hugging his knees in abject terror (and occasionally operating the elevator) was too incongruous for some viewers to do anything but laugh at.



* In the last episode, Qyburn talking about how he will heal the Mountain and beginning the work on him comes across like something out of a Frankenstein movie, and not in a good way. His gleeful, "Oh no," was particularly over the top.

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* In the last episode, Qyburn talking about how he will heal the Mountain and beginning the work on him comes across like something out of a Frankenstein movie, and not in a good way. His gleeful, "Oh no," ominous, "Oh, no..." was particularly over the top.



* Tyene's little poison game with Bronn in "The Gift". The gratuitous nudity of flashing her boobs while clutching the prison bars to look like a stripper, the FridgeLogic of why she would use slow-acting poison on a snatch-and-grab kidnapping and why arousal would be enough to trigger it when combat wasn't, and not to mention her overall shift to a completely different personality all make it very tough to take seriously.

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* Tyene's little poison game with Bronn in "The Gift". The gratuitous nudity of flashing her boobs while clutching the prison bars to look like a stripper, the FridgeLogic of why she would use slow-acting poison on a snatch-and-grab kidnapping and why arousal would be enough to trigger it when combat wasn't, and not to mention her overall shift to a completely different personality all make it very tough to take seriously.



* Daenerys' BadassBoast "I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to ''break'' the wheel!" is laughably-vague grandstanding to some. To elaborate, Tyrion gave a detailed assessment of why the powerful lords of Westeros will not support her and how her current troubles in Meereen prove the common people (a power base it's "generous" to presume she has in Westeros) are not enough. She responds by dismissing the powerful as "just spokes on a wheel" she intends to "break", totally disregarding everything Tyrion just explained. Then the scene ends, relieving her from having to explain what she means or how she intends to achieve it.

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* Daenerys' BadassBoast "I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to ''break'' the wheel!" is laughably-vague laughably vague grandstanding to some. To elaborate, Tyrion just gave a detailed assessment of why the powerful lords of Westeros will not support her and how her current troubles in Meereen prove the common people (a power base it's "generous" to presume she has in Westeros) are not enough. She responds by dismissing the powerful as "just spokes on a wheel" she intends to "break", totally disregarding everything Tyrion just explained. Then the scene ends, relieving her from having to explain what she means or how she intends to achieve it.



** The dragon-riding itself on many levels. Besides the sudden shift into HighFantasy being jarring for some, many of the effects were [[SpecialEffectFailure comically bogus]] (particularly the utter lack of wind in Dany's hair), not to mention the numerous large spines on Drogon's back that made many giggle at just how, *ahem*, [[GroinAttack uncomfortable]] riding this dragon must be. Then there was how slow and awkward Dany was actually mounting while the Sons of the Harpy apparently [[MookChivalry did nothing to stop her]], and how -- rather than attempting to harness Drogon against her enemies -- Dany apparently just abandons her entire court to test-drive her new ride.

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** The dragon-riding itself on many levels. Besides the sudden shift into HighFantasy being jarring for some, many of the effects were [[SpecialEffectFailure comically bogus]] (particularly the utter lack of wind in Dany's hair), not to mention the numerous large spines on Drogon's back that made many giggle at just how, *ahem*, [[GroinAttack uncomfortable]] riding this dragon must be. Then there was how slow and awkward Dany was actually mounting while the Sons of the Harpy apparently [[MookChivalry did nothing to stop her]], and how -- rather how--rather than attempting to harness Drogon against her enemies -- Dany enemies--Dany apparently just abandons her entire court to test-drive her new ride.



** ''Dingalingaling!''
* The tragedy (or catharsis) of Stannis' HumiliationConga in "Mhysa" can cross right over into farce via it's UpToEleven nature: his army deserts him, his wife hangs herself, his guru abandons him, etc. Most of it happens off-screen and in such a ludicrously short time that the second he finishes hearing awful news, even worse news arrives until it feels like an infomercial ("But wait, there's more!") and you could be forgiven for expecting [[Film/RobinHoodMenInTights Blinkin]] to appear and comment, "Oh, it's good to home, ain't it, Master Stannis?"

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** Cersei has committed grievous sins, and [[Series/SaturdayNightLive the only prescription is more cowbell]]! ''Dingalingaling!''
* The tragedy (or catharsis) of Stannis' HumiliationConga in "Mhysa" can cross right over into farce via it's UpToEleven nature: his army deserts him, his wife hangs herself, his guru abandons him, etc. Most of it happens off-screen and in such a ludicrously short time that the second he finishes hearing awful news, even worse news arrives until it feels like an infomercial ("But wait, there's more!") and you could be forgiven for expecting [[Film/RobinHoodMenInTights Blinkin]] to appear and comment, "Oh, it's good to be home, ain't it, Master Stannis?"



* It's hard to remain serious during Dany's attempts to get back to Meereen in "Mother's Mercy", where the whole scene with Drogon plays out like the classic scene in [[TheWestern Western]] or HistoricalFiction parodies (it's even in Literature/DonQuixote) where TheHero can't get his mount to do what he wants. Then, when she strikes out on foot, hundreds of riders [[BehindTheBlack come out of nowhere]] and start ''orbiting'' around her.

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* It's hard to remain serious during Dany's attempts to get back to Meereen in "Mother's Mercy", where the whole scene with Drogon plays out like the classic scene in [[TheWestern Western]] or HistoricalFiction parodies (it's even in Literature/DonQuixote) ''Literature/DonQuixote'') where TheHero can't get his mount to do what he wants. Then, when she strikes out on foot, hundreds of riders [[BehindTheBlack come out of nowhere]] and start ''orbiting'' around her.



** It gets even sillier in the Season 6 premiere. '''[[WhatAnIdiot They didn't take the sign down]]'', and left [[spoiler:Jon's corpse]] lying under it. It takes Davos about two seconds to put two and two together and realize what happened. Way to go, guys.

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** It gets even sillier in the Season 6 premiere. '''[[WhatAnIdiot They didn't take the sign down]]'', and left [[spoiler:Jon's corpse]] the corpse lying under it. It takes Davos about two seconds to put two and two together and realize what happened. Way to go, guys.



* In the season premiere, the entire Night's Watch outside TheConspiracy is exactly as outraged by their actions as you'd expect… until ''everyone'' is completely talked around on it by Thorne's brisk MotiveRant. Also not helping the scene is how it keeps cutting to Olly despite him contributing nothing but the same smug expression of righteousness in any of the focus shots, like we might otherwise forget he exists.

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* In the season premiere, the entire Night's Watch outside TheConspiracy is exactly as outraged by their actions as you'd expect… until ''everyone'' is completely talked around on it by Thorne's brisk MotiveRant. Also not Not helping the scene is how it keeps cutting to Olly despite him contributing nothing but the same smug expression of righteousness in any of the focus shots, like we might otherwise forget he exists.



* Arya's final showdown with the Waif has some eye-rolling bits as the Waif casually strolls after her like Film/{{the Terminator}}, but yet she's always right behind her like a slasher villain, and the show actually tries to drag out the suspense of who won after Arya takes out the candle like anyone could have any doubt, even on this show.

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* Arya's final showdown with the Waif has some eye-rolling bits as the Waif casually strolls after her like Film/{{the Terminator}}, but yet she's is always right behind her like a slasher villain, and the show actually tries to drag out the suspense of who won after Arya takes out the candle like anyone could have any doubt, even on this show.



* Jon's race into every single arrow Ramsay's army can fire, with ''none'' of them coming anywhere close to him (along with several hitting [[spoiler:Rickon]]'s body, like they were actually aiming for it). It's rather fitting that after three seasons of increasingly ridiculous PlotArmor, Ramsay could only be defeated by someone whose own plot armor was even more absurd.
* Remember Wun Wun as the OneManArmy whacking wights left, right, and center with a huge log at Hardhome? Cherish those memories, for you'll need them to counter the embarrassing shots of him pathetically waving his ''naked'' arms at the Bolton infantry and being generally useless despite having time to actually ''prepare'' for this battle.

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* Jon's race into every single arrow Ramsay's army can fire, with ''none'' of them [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy coming anywhere close close]] to him (along with several hitting [[spoiler:Rickon]]'s body, body like they were actually aiming for it). It's rather fitting that after three seasons of increasingly ridiculous PlotArmor, Ramsay could only be defeated by someone whose own plot armor was even more absurd.
* Remember Wun Wun as the OneManArmy whacking wights left, right, and center with a huge log at Hardhome? Cherish those memories, for memories; you'll need them to counter the embarrassing shots of him pathetically waving his ''naked'' arms ''naked arms'' at the Bolton infantry and being generally useless despite having time to actually ''prepare'' for this battle.


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** The MookChivalry of the rest of the Masters' massive fleet just watching Dany destroy a ship without even trying to interfere is especially silly since a Season 5 "Histories & Lore" featurette talks about how this is ''exactly'' how her distant ancestor Prince Jacaerys was killed during the Dance of the Dragons.
10th Feb '17 5:47:40 AM NightShade96
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* Littlefinger has a character-defining monologue that goes into great detail about his backstory and motivations… which is completely undercut by the GirlOnGirlIsHot going on in front of him, which is distracting enough ''before'' being edited to actively compete with the dialogue in both screen-time and ''volume''. It also doesn't help that Ros' faux ImmodestOrgasm (which Littlefinger is ostensibly correcting) doesn't actually get any less "ridiculous," and let's not forget the infamous, "Play with her arse," command delivered in exactly the same detached tone as the rest of the monologue.

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* Littlefinger has a character-defining monologue that goes into great detail about his backstory and motivations… which is completely undercut by the GirlOnGirlIsHot going on in front of him, which is distracting enough ''before'' being edited to actively compete with the dialogue in both screen-time and ''volume''. It also doesn't help that Ros' faux ImmodestOrgasm (which Littlefinger is ostensibly correcting) doesn't actually get any less "ridiculous," "ridiculous", and let's not forget the infamous, infamous "Play with her arse," command delivered in exactly the same detached tone as the rest of the monologue.



** On this note, a DeletedScene shows Doreah strangling Irri to death while reciting "[[FetishRetardant sexy]]" dialogue about erotic asphyxiation. The logic seems to be that because she's an ex-courtesan she has to do everything ''sexily'', including cold-blooded murder. It's worth a few eye-rolls. Indeed, before the DVD came out this was the most anticipated deleted scene but afterward everyone agreed it was the worst and it was a great decision to leave it out. Most people point to the absurdity of the monologue, Roxanne [=McKee=]'s poor delivery, and the fact that Doreah's motives to betray Dany are even ''less'' evident than before.

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** On this note, a DeletedScene shows Doreah strangling Irri to death while reciting "[[FetishRetardant sexy]]" dialogue about erotic asphyxiation. The logic seems to be that because she's an ex-courtesan ex-courtesan, she has to do everything ''sexily'', including cold-blooded murder. It's worth a few eye-rolls. Indeed, before the DVD came out this was the most anticipated deleted scene but afterward everyone agreed it was the worst and it was a great decision to leave it out. Most people point to the absurdity of the monologue, Roxanne [=McKee=]'s poor delivery, and the fact that Doreah's motives to betray Dany are even ''less'' evident than before.



* Chaos isn't a pit… ''Chaosh ish a LADDAH''.

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* Chaos "Chaos isn't a pit… ''Chaosh ish a LADDAH''.LADDAH''".



* Tyrion, in all seriousness, recommends Bronn as "a proper, discrete swordsman" when Jaime needs a sparring partner, but one of the first things Bronn tells Jaime is "There's this knight, Leygood. Got thunderbolts on his shield? Right here is where [[YourCheatingHeart I fuck his wife]]." Proper, discrete swordsman, indeed. Also, Mrs. Leygood must be a [[StealthPun good lay]].

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* Tyrion, in all seriousness, recommends Bronn as "a proper, discrete discreet swordsman" when Jaime needs a sparring partner, but one of the first things Bronn tells Jaime is "There's this knight, Leygood. Got thunderbolts on his shield? Right here is where [[YourCheatingHeart I fuck his wife]]." Proper, discrete discreet swordsman, indeed. Also, Mrs. Leygood must be a [[StealthPun good lay]].



* Arya trying to sound deep with her "Nothing is just… nothing," line is more cringe-worthy than profound.

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* Arya [[MeaninglessMeaningfulWords trying to sound deep deep]] with her "Nothing is just… nothing," line is more cringe-worthy than profound.



* ''Any'' time the scene cuts awkwardly away from the action to show Olly [[ChekhovsGunman Chekhov]]'s reaction to Jon doing something. Foreshadowing is ''not'' subtle in this season.

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* ''Any'' time the scene cuts awkwardly away from the action to show Olly Olly's [[ChekhovsGunman Chekhov]]'s reaction Chekhov's reaction]] to Jon doing something. Foreshadowing is ''not'' subtle in this season.



** The fact that Davos and Stannis were somehow able to glean that it was ''exactly'' twenty men was also distracting and ridiculous. No one saw them, but they managed to figure out their numbers to a man? Even their footprints would be impossible to sort out after all the chaos and continued snowfall. It just screams ForcedMeme.

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** The fact that Davos and Stannis were somehow able to glean that it was ''exactly'' twenty men was also distracting and ridiculous. No one saw them, but they somehow managed to figure out their numbers to a man? Even their footprints would be impossible to sort out after all the chaos and continued snowfall. It just screams ForcedMeme.



** Their appearance is also accompanied by an absurdly unholy chanting music that brings to mind the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5NI54QlvI sacrifice song]] from Series/SouthPark, as if we needed further proof these MalevolentMaskedMen massacring the populace are evil.
** The tension is high right up until Dany's entourage gets surrounded in the middle of the arena, at which point it comes to a screeching halt as the Sons of the Harpy, who'd been slicing through the crowd and guardsmen like butter, immediately degenerate to prodding at Dany's group [[MookChivalry one and a time]] to be cut down by Jorah or Daario in a manner that suggests that Dany's crew could've just slowly whittled the Harpies down.

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** Their appearance is also accompanied by an absurdly unholy chanting music that brings to mind the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5NI54QlvI sacrifice song]] from Series/SouthPark, ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', as if we needed further proof these MalevolentMaskedMen massacring the populace are evil.
** The tension is high right up until Dany's entourage gets surrounded in the middle of the arena, at which point it comes to a screeching halt as the Sons of the Harpy, who'd who've been slicing through the crowd and guardsmen like butter, immediately degenerate to prodding at Dany's group [[MookChivalry one and a time]] to be cut down by Jorah or Daario in a manner that suggests that Dany's crew could've just slowly whittled the Harpies down.



** "Shame!… Shame!… Shame!… Shame!… Shame!… Shame!…" She's saying that because it's a walk of '' [[CaptainObvious shame]]'', you see.

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** "Shame!… Shame!… Shame!… Shame!… Shame!… Shame!…" She's saying that because it's a walk of '' [[CaptainObvious ''[[CaptainObvious shame]]'', you see.



* As part of TheConspiracy to assassinate [[spoiler: Jon Snow]], someone was given the job of ''painting a sign'' that says "Traitor". Imagine the debate that must have gone into that decision: "Hmm, how can we make it clear we're upset with him, other than repeatedly stabbing him to death? I know! We'll make him look at ''a sign''!" Or the attendant debate over which PreMortemOneLiner to say aloud and which to put on a sign.
** It gets even sillier in the Season 6 premiere. ''They didn't take the sign down'', and left [[spoiler:Jon's corpse]] lying under it. It takes Davos about two seconds to put two and two together and realize what happened. Way to go, guys.

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* As part of TheConspiracy to assassinate [[spoiler: Jon Snow]], someone was given the job of ''painting a sign'' that says "Traitor". Imagine the debate that must have gone into that decision: "Hmm, how can we make it clear we're upset with him, other than repeatedly stabbing him to death? I know! We'll make him look at ''a sign''!" Or sign''!", or the attendant debate over which PreMortemOneLiner to say aloud and which to put on a sign.
** It gets even sillier in the Season 6 premiere. ''They '''[[WhatAnIdiot They didn't take the sign down'', down]]'', and left [[spoiler:Jon's corpse]] lying under it. It takes Davos about two seconds to put two and two together and realize what happened. Way to go, guys.
6th Feb '17 3:14:06 PM dustyham
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* Tyrion, in all seriousness, recommends Bronn as "a proper, discrete swordsman" when Jaime needs a sparring partner, but one of the first things Bronn tells Jaime is "There's this knight, Leygood. Got thunderbolts on his shield? Right here is where [[YourCheatingHeart I fuck his wife]]." Proper, discrete swordsman, indeed. Also, Mrs. Leygood must be a [[StealthPun good lay]].
6th Feb '17 1:46:49 PM dustyham
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->''"You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy."''

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->''"You want a good girl, but you need a the bad pussy."''



* The line "You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy." is a strong candidate for the worst line ever written for the show, and thus a fair representation of [[IdiotPlot the entire Dorne storyline]]. It's so bad that one would be excused for thinking it's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1GA4qcbwjI shout-out]] to a masterpiece by the name of ''Film/SharkAttack3Megalodon''.

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* The line "You want a good girl, but you need a the bad pussy." is a strong candidate for the worst line ever written for the show, and thus a fair representation of [[IdiotPlot the entire Dorne storyline]]. It's so bad that one would be excused for thinking it's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1GA4qcbwjI shout-out]] to a masterpiece by the name of ''Film/SharkAttack3Megalodon''.
2nd Feb '17 10:38:41 PM NightShade96
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[[caption-width-right:350: Yes, she looks like that every time she gives a RousingSpeech...]]

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[[caption-width-right:350: Yes, she looks like that every time she gives a RousingSpeech...]]RousingSpeech…]]



* The dogs that play the direwolves are ''not'' very good actors. It's hard not to laugh when CGI blood flies everywhere as a happy puppy jumps up and gnaws gleefully on a chew toy, and when Ghost is trying to warn Jon that the wights are up and about the "wolf's" whining and scratching at the door is so dog-like that it seems like Jon should be asking, [[Series/{{Lassie}} "What is it, girl?]] Did Rickon [[TimmyInAWell fall down the well again?]]"

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* The dogs that play the direwolves are ''not'' very good actors. It's hard not to laugh when CGI blood flies everywhere as a happy puppy jumps up and gnaws gleefully on a chew toy, and when Ghost is trying to warn Jon that the wights are up and about about, the "wolf's" "wolf"'s whining and scratching at the door is are so dog-like that it seems like Jon should be asking, [[Series/{{Lassie}} "What is it, girl?]] Did Rickon [[TimmyInAWell fall down the well again?]]"



** On this note, a DeletedScene shows Doreah strangling Irri to death while reciting "sexy" dialogue about erotic asphyxiation. The logic seems to be that because she's an ex-courtesan she has to do everything ''sexily'', including cold-blooded murder. It's worth a few eye-rolls. Indeed, before the DVD came out this was the most anticipated deleted scene but afterward everyone agreed it was the worst and it was a great decision to leave it out. Most people point to the absurdity of the monologue, Roxanne [=McKee=]'s poor delivery, and the fact Doreah's motives to betray Dany are even ''less'' evident than before.

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** On this note, a DeletedScene shows Doreah strangling Irri to death while reciting "sexy" "[[FetishRetardant sexy]]" dialogue about erotic asphyxiation. The logic seems to be that because she's an ex-courtesan she has to do everything ''sexily'', including cold-blooded murder. It's worth a few eye-rolls. Indeed, before the DVD came out this was the most anticipated deleted scene but afterward everyone agreed it was the worst and it was a great decision to leave it out. Most people point to the absurdity of the monologue, Roxanne [=McKee=]'s poor delivery, and the fact that Doreah's motives to betray Dany are even ''less'' evident than before.



** The scene was already ruined the moment someone started shouting "Mhysa." [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Meesa am bombad Khaleesi!]]

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** The scene was already ruined the moment someone started shouting "Mhysa." "Mhysa". [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Meesa am bombad Khaleesi!]]



* Tyrion telling Shae they can no longer be together and that she has to leave King's Landing at once. It's supposed to be dramatic and sad, but it comes off like a very cheap soap opera.
* Okay, the reveal of the [[spoiler:Night King and his method of creating new White Walkers]] was indeed pants-shittingly scary, but it was slightly tarnished by how the baby reacts to the most terrifying monster in the entire mythos by grinning and giggling for a few moments, and the fact he looks a bit like an albino [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Maul]] made him a little less terrifying to some.
* Dany's speech to Jorah about how she intends to rule Westeros is clearly meant to be an SugarWiki/{{awesome moment|s}} and sign of potential character growth, but the speech itself is extremely cheesy and feels rather forced and gratuitous. This is not helped by Clarke's delivery (even her fans have agreed this was ''not'' her best moment): "[[DullSurprise I will do what queens do… I will]] [[LastSecondWordSwap roo.]]"

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* Tyrion telling Shae that they can no longer be together and that she has to leave King's Landing at once. It's once is supposed to be dramatic and sad, but it comes off like a very cheap soap opera.
* Okay, the reveal of the [[spoiler:Night King and his method of creating new White Walkers]] was indeed [[NightmareFuel pants-shittingly scary, scary]], but it was [[NightmareRetardant slightly tarnished tarnished]] by how the baby reacts to the most terrifying monster in the entire mythos by grinning and giggling for a few moments, and the fact he looks a bit like an albino [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Maul]] made him a little less terrifying to some.
Maul]].
* Dany's speech to Jorah about how she intends to rule Westeros is clearly meant to be an SugarWiki/{{awesome moment|s}} and sign of her potential character growth, but the speech itself is extremely cheesy and feels rather forced and gratuitous. This is not helped by Clarke's delivery (even her fans have agreed this was ''not'' her best moment): "[[DullSurprise I will do what queens do… I will]] [[LastSecondWordSwap roo.]]"



* Arya trying to sound deep with her, "Nothing is just… nothing," line is more cringe-worthy than profound.

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* Arya trying to sound deep with her, her "Nothing is just… nothing," line is more cringe-worthy than profound.



* ''Any'' time the scene cuts awkwardly away from the action to show Olly [[ChekhovsGunman Chekhov]]'s reaction to Jon doing something. Foreshadowing is not subtle in Season 5.

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* ''Any'' time the scene cuts awkwardly away from the action to show Olly [[ChekhovsGunman Chekhov]]'s reaction to Jon doing something. Foreshadowing is not ''not'' subtle in Season 5.this season.



** The fact that Davos and Stannis were able to somehow glean that it was twenty men was also distracting and ridiculous. No one saw them, but they managed to figure out their numbers to a man? Even their footprints would be impossible to sort out after all the chaos and continued snowfall. It just screams ForcedMeme.
* Daenerys' BadassBoast, "I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to ''break'' the wheel!" is laughably vague grandstanding to some. To elaborate, Tyrion gave a detailed assessment of why the powerful lords of Westeros will not support her and how her current troubles in Meereen prove the common people (a power base it's "generous" to presume she has in Westeros) are not enough. She responds by dismissing the powerful as "just spokes on a wheel" she intends to "break", totally disregarding everything Tyrion just explained. Then the scene ends, relieving her from having to explain what she means or how she intends to achieve it.

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** The fact that Davos and Stannis were somehow able to somehow glean that it was ''exactly'' twenty men was also distracting and ridiculous. No one saw them, but they managed to figure out their numbers to a man? Even their footprints would be impossible to sort out after all the chaos and continued snowfall. It just screams ForcedMeme.
* Daenerys' BadassBoast, BadassBoast "I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to ''break'' the wheel!" is laughably vague laughably-vague grandstanding to some. To elaborate, Tyrion gave a detailed assessment of why the powerful lords of Westeros will not support her and how her current troubles in Meereen prove the common people (a power base it's "generous" to presume she has in Westeros) are not enough. She responds by dismissing the powerful as "just spokes on a wheel" she intends to "break", totally disregarding everything Tyrion just explained. Then the scene ends, relieving her from having to explain what she means or how she intends to achieve it.



* When Jaime reveals to Myrcella that IAmYourFather, one can't help but roll their eyes at Myrcella's declaration (complete with fuzzy, sincere music) that she's ''glad'' to be a bastard born of incest against all the laws of gods and men whose very existence is proof her family has usurped the Iron Throne, a revelation that would have most sane people reaching for the BrainBleach.
** Then she dies, which is an "Oh, for the love of ''God''!" moment all on its own, as it reveals the scene to be a comically clumsy attempt to yank at the heartstrings, and for a show that so often goes out of its way to avoid happy endings her being TooHappyToLive by having a PerfectlyArrangedMarriage and accepting her true father makes it laughably easy to predict her death.

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* When Jaime reveals to Myrcella that IAmYourFather, [[LukeIAmYourFather he is her father]], one can't help but roll their eyes at Myrcella's declaration (complete with fuzzy, sincere music) that she's ''glad'' to be a bastard born of incest against all the laws of gods and men whose very existence is proof her family has usurped the Iron Throne, a revelation that would have most sane people reaching for the BrainBleach.
** Then she dies, which is an "Oh, for the love of ''God''!" moment all on its own, as it reveals the scene to be a comically clumsy comically-clumsy attempt to [[TearJerker yank at the heartstrings, heartstrings]], and for a show that so often goes out of its way to avoid happy endings endings, her being TooHappyToLive by having a PerfectlyArrangedMarriage and accepting her true father makes it laughably easy to predict her death.



** The battle of Winterfell is too ridiculous to be taken seriously. An entire season of build-up to this very moment, the Bolton army approaches, Stannis' theme comes up as he draws his sword, the armies clash… and five seconds later we see Stannis' army decimated and Ramsay once again completely unscathed and basically saying "Okay boys, we're done here. I gotta get back to raping my wife".

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** The battle of Winterfell is too ridiculous to be taken seriously. An There's been an entire season of build-up to this very moment, the Bolton army approaches, Stannis' theme comes up as he draws his sword, the armies clash… and five seconds later we see Stannis' army decimated and Ramsay once again completely unscathed and basically saying "Okay boys, we're done here. I gotta get back to raping my wife".



* "Mother's Mercy" can also be regarded as very silly for the sheer number of {{Dashed Plot Line}}s and {{Cliffhanger}}s piled one after the other to the point that momentous events like [[spoiler:Stannis' defeat, Sansa's escape, Myrcella's poisoning and Jon's stabbing]]) register with DullSurprise by the end.

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* "Mother's Mercy" can also be regarded as very silly for the sheer number of {{Dashed Plot Line}}s and {{Cliffhanger}}s piled one after the other other, to the point that momentous events like [[spoiler:Stannis' defeat, Sansa's escape, Myrcella's poisoning and Jon's stabbing]]) register with DullSurprise by the end.



* In the season premiere, the entire Night's Watch outside TheConspiracy is exactly as outraged by their actions as you'd expect... until ''everyone'' is completely talked around on it by Thorne's brisk MotiveRant. Also not helping the scene is how it keeps cutting to Olly despite him contributing nothing but the same smug expression of righteousness in any of the focus shots, like we might otherwise forget he exists.
** The fact Jon's loyalists consist of Davos, Edd… and a few random extras. You can just imagine the writers' MassOhCrap on realizing maybe they shouldn't have killed off Pyp and Grenn when they did.
* Dorne continues to deliver with its [[SarcasmMode solid storyline]] about those ''[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess Xena]]'' rejects avenging Oberyn by [[spoiler: murdering all his remaining relatives]] in an [[DroppedABridgeOnHim out-of-nowhere]] coup justified by InsaneTrollLogic and accompanied by gratuitous gloating:

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* In the season premiere, the entire Night's Watch outside TheConspiracy is exactly as outraged by their actions as you'd expect... expect… until ''everyone'' is completely talked around on it by Thorne's brisk MotiveRant. Also not helping the scene is how it keeps cutting to Olly despite him contributing nothing but the same smug expression of righteousness in any of the focus shots, like we might otherwise forget he exists.
** The fact that Jon's loyalists consist of Davos, Edd… and a few random extras. You can just imagine the writers' MassOhCrap on realizing that maybe they shouldn't have killed off Pyp and Grenn when they did.
* Dorne continues to deliver with its [[SarcasmMode solid solid]] [[IdiotPlot storyline]] about those ''[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess Xena]]'' rejects avenging Oberyn by [[spoiler: murdering all his remaining relatives]] in an [[DroppedABridgeOnHim out-of-nowhere]] coup justified by InsaneTrollLogic and accompanied by gratuitous gloating:



* Jaime confesses more sins to the High Sparrow's face than all his other victims combined (heck, Margaery was seized for ''perjury'' and remanded for "not being without sin"), all while ''surrounded by armed Sparrows''… but the High Sparrow just keeps babbling on about gods-fearing and overthrowing empires and then just leaves without any interest in seizing Jaime.

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* Jaime confesses more sins to the High Sparrow's face than all his other victims combined (heck, Margaery was seized for ''perjury'' and remanded for "not being without sin"), all while ''surrounded ''[[WhatAnIdiot being surrounded by armed Sparrows''… Sparrows]]''… but the High Sparrow just keeps babbling on about gods-fearing and overthrowing empires and then just leaves without any interest in seizing Jaime.



* Bran is upset about being pulled away from his PensieveFlashback before learning the secret of the Tower of Joy, even demanding to know the answer, which is understandable, as perhaps is his mentor's refusal… if said mentor didn't end the scene by proclaiming, "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis You. must. learn.]] […] everything!" Except what's in that tower, apparently…
* Ramsay's life of endless dog-kicking just gets more and more laughable this season. The writers go out of their way to have him be so very evil and aim for cheap shocks that it loses all meaning and each subsequent kick just winds up hilarious. It basically amounts to a game for viewers to see what he's going to do next.

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* Bran is upset about being pulled away from his PensieveFlashback before learning the secret of the Tower of Joy, even demanding to know the answer, which is understandable, as perhaps is his mentor's refusal… if said mentor didn't end the scene by proclaiming, proclaiming "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis You. must. learn.]] […] everything!" Except what's in that tower, apparently…
* Ramsay's life of endless dog-kicking [[KickTheDog dog-kicking]] just gets more and more laughable this season. The writers go out of their way to have him be so very evil and aim for cheap shocks that it loses all meaning and each subsequent kick just winds up being hilarious. It basically amounts to being a game for viewers to see what he's going to do next.



** For many non-English speakers, translation also led to some of this since, "Hold the door," sounds ''very'' different in other languages. [[https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4ko0ad/s6e5_i_feel_so_sorry_for_everyone_watching_that/ Some are creative, some don't even try]]. In Italian, for instance, the line was changed to "Trova un modo!" ("Find a way!"), while the French and Portuguese struggled comically to gradually turn "Pas-au dehors!" and "Segure a porta!" into "Hodor". Germanic languages had an easier time of it since the words have very common roots: for instance, "Halt das Tor" (German) and "Håll dörren" (Swedish).

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** For many non-English speakers, translation also led to some of this since, since "Hold the door," door" sounds ''very'' different in other languages. [[https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4ko0ad/s6e5_i_feel_so_sorry_for_everyone_watching_that/ Some are creative, while some don't even try]]. In Italian, for instance, the line was changed to "Trova un modo!" ("Find a way!"), while the French and Portuguese struggled comically to gradually turn "Pas-au dehors!" and "Segure a porta!" into "Hodor". Germanic languages had an easier time of it since the words have very common roots: for instance, "Halt das Tor" (German) and "Håll dörren" (Swedish).



** The fact that Euron openly admits to murdering his brother King Balon and his first act as king is to ask, "Where are my niece and nephew? Let's go murder them!" Aren't kin-slaying and king-slaying meant to be taboo in Westeros?

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** The fact that Euron openly admits to murdering his brother King Balon and his first act as king is to ask, ask "Where are my niece and nephew? Let's go murder them!" them!". Aren't kin-slaying and king-slaying meant to be taboo in Westeros?



* Daenerys gets yet another rousing speech in "Blood of My Blood" but—while visually impressive—it barely makes any sense to exist. Aside from the glaring AssPull that is Drogon's sudden appearance and taming, it comes at a time when she's marching with a totally loyal army with no apparent morale problems, making it feel like she got bored more than anything.
* Daenerys proclaiming the entire Dothraki people her bloodriders becomes ''extremely'' dark humour when you remember that one of the fundamental duties of a bloodrider (at least in the novels) is to commit ritual suicide when their ''khal'' dies, giving such a declaration potentially ''genocidal'' implications.
* After leaving the Faceless Men, Arya clearly knows they plan to kill her and spends a LockAndLoadMontage preparing, but then just strolls around nonchalantly until she's accosted by an old woman who immediately shivs her multiple times before stopping to reveal she's actually the Waif and [[VillainBall give Arya time to escape]], which begs the question of what Arya thought she was doing and why the Waif wore a disguise at all if it only got in the way of her gloating.

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* Daenerys gets yet another rousing speech in "Blood of My Blood" but—while but while it is visually impressive—it impressive, it barely makes any sense for it to exist. Aside from the glaring AssPull that is Drogon's sudden appearance and taming, it comes at a time when she's marching with a totally loyal army with no apparent morale problems, making it feel like she got bored more than anything.
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* Daenerys proclaiming the entire Dothraki people as her bloodriders becomes ''extremely'' [[BlackComedy dark humour humour]] when you remember that one of the fundamental duties of a bloodrider (at least in the novels) is to commit ritual suicide when their ''khal'' dies, giving such a declaration potentially ''genocidal'' implications.
* After leaving the Faceless Men, Arya clearly knows that they plan to kill her and spends a LockAndLoadMontage preparing, preparing for it, but then she just strolls around nonchalantly until she's accosted by an old woman who immediately shivs her multiple times before stopping to reveal she's actually the Waif and [[VillainBall give Arya time to escape]], which begs the question of what Arya thought she was doing and why the Waif wore a disguise at all if it only got in the way of her gloating.



* Arya's final showdown with the Waif has some eye-rolling bits as the Waif casually strolls after her like Film/TheTerminator yet is always right behind her like a slasher villain, and the show actually tries to drag out the suspense of who won after Arya takes out the candle like anyone could have any doubt even on this show.
** The sheer degree of HollywoodHealing Arya manages throughout the sequence also deserves mention. Between episodes 7 and 8, she's stabbed multiple times in the stomach, jumps into an undoubtedly polluted river, receives amateur treatment and one night of rest before engaging in a high-speed [[LeParkour parkour]] chase, takes several significant falls, rolls down a stone staircase, and reopens her hastily-bandaged wounds, yet at the end of the episode she's able to stride confidently out of the House of Black and White. It's hard to believe the Waif ever could have killed her, as apparently ''[[MadeOfIron nothing]]'' can.
** Made worse by the amount of ApatheticCitizens during the whole pursuit (bonus points for the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment men's sauna]]), as if nobody cares about the two girls fighting, parkouring, and pushing stuff around.

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* Arya's final showdown with the Waif has some eye-rolling bits as the Waif casually strolls after her like Film/TheTerminator Film/{{the Terminator}}, but yet is she's always right behind her like a slasher villain, and the show actually tries to drag out the suspense of who won after Arya takes out the candle like anyone could have any doubt doubt, even on this show.
** The sheer degree of HollywoodHealing Arya manages throughout the sequence also deserves mention. Between episodes 7 and 8, she's she gets stabbed multiple times in the stomach, jumps into an undoubtedly polluted river, receives amateur treatment and one night of rest before engaging in a high-speed [[LeParkour parkour]] chase, takes several significant falls, rolls down a stone staircase, and reopens her hastily-bandaged wounds, and yet at the end of the episode she's somehow able to stride confidently out of the House of Black and White. It's hard to believe the Waif ever could have killed her, as apparently ''[[MadeOfIron nothing]]'' can.
** Made worse by the amount number of ApatheticCitizens during the whole pursuit (bonus points for the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment men's sauna]]), as if nobody cares about the two girls fighting, parkouring, and pushing stuff around.



* The death of Lady Crane, with Arya discovering her body with a pair of blunt stool legs stuck through her shoulders. Even if you buy that the Waif could have somehow done it, it still clearly wouldn't have killed her.

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* The death of Lady Crane, with Arya discovering her body with (which has a pair of blunt stool legs stuck through her shoulders.shoulders). Even if you buy that the Waif could have somehow done it, it still clearly wouldn't have killed her.



* Jon's race into every single arrow Ramsay's army can fire, none of them coming anywhere close (along with several hitting [[spoiler:Rickon]]'s body, like they were actually aiming for it). It's rather fitting that after three seasons of increasingly ridiculous PlotArmor, Ramsay could only be defeated by someone whose own plot armor was even more absurd.
* Remember Wun Wun as the OneManArmy whacking wights left, right, and center with a huge log at Hardhome? Cherish those memories, you'll need them to counter the embarrassing shots of him pathetically waving his ''naked'' arms at the Bolton infantry and being generally useless despite having time to actually ''prepare'' for this battle.

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* Jon's race into every single arrow Ramsay's army can fire, none with ''none'' of them coming anywhere close to him (along with several hitting [[spoiler:Rickon]]'s body, like they were actually aiming for it). It's rather fitting that after three seasons of increasingly ridiculous PlotArmor, Ramsay could only be defeated by someone whose own plot armor was even more absurd.
* Remember Wun Wun as the OneManArmy whacking wights left, right, and center with a huge log at Hardhome? Cherish those memories, for you'll need them to counter the embarrassing shots of him pathetically waving his ''naked'' arms at the Bolton infantry and being generally useless despite having time to actually ''prepare'' for this battle.
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* Littlefinger has a character-defining monologue that goes into great detail about his backstory and motivations... which is completely undercut by the GirlOnGirlIsHot going on in front of him, which is distracting enough ''before'' being edited to actively compete with the dialogue in both screen-time and ''volume''. It also doesn't help that Ros' faux ImmodestOrgasm (which Littlefinger is ostensibly correcting) doesn't actually get any less "ridiculous," and let's not forget the infamous, "Play with her arse," command delivered in exactly the same detached tone as the rest of the monologue.

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* Littlefinger has a character-defining monologue that goes into great detail about his backstory and motivations... motivations… which is completely undercut by the GirlOnGirlIsHot going on in front of him, which is distracting enough ''before'' being edited to actively compete with the dialogue in both screen-time and ''volume''. It also doesn't help that Ros' faux ImmodestOrgasm (which Littlefinger is ostensibly correcting) doesn't actually get any less "ridiculous," and let's not forget the infamous, "Play with her arse," command delivered in exactly the same detached tone as the rest of the monologue.



* In a {{Fanservice}} scene where Theon has sex with Ros, Alfie Allen puts ''a lot'' of effort into his GruntingOrgasm... but the way he jerks around it look like he's just had 1200 volts put through him, which combined with his little beard and how he bites his lip makes him look like an electrocuted rat. And since Alfie isn't at all shy about MaleFrontalNudity, we get to see Theon's penis ''instantly'' deflated once he was done. WTF?

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* In a {{Fanservice}} scene where Theon has sex with Ros, Alfie Allen puts ''a lot'' of effort into his GruntingOrgasm... GruntingOrgasm… but the way he jerks around it look like he's just had 1200 volts put through him, which when combined with his little beard and how he bites his lip makes him look like an electrocuted rat. And since Alfie isn't at all shy about MaleFrontalNudity, we get to see Theon's penis ''instantly'' deflated once he was done. WTF?



* Daenerys's arc in this season has several moments of this, because it consists mostly of her wandering around Qarth yelling at other people ("WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!") and not being taken seriously, all while several people around her turn inexplicably evil and betray her for no reason, especially jarring given that none of them did so in the book.

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* Daenerys's arc in this season has several moments of this, because it consists mostly of her wandering around Qarth yelling at other people ("WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!") and not being taken seriously, all while several people around her turn inexplicably evil and betray her for no reason, which is especially jarring given that none of them did so in the book.



* Loras Tyrell talking about jewelry, fashion, and his dream wedding. Because apparently the saucy bedroom scenes with other men weren't enough to convince us he's gay.
* In "Mhysa", a very distraught Ygritte has Jon Snow at arrowpoint. Jon tries to plead his way out and tells her that he needs to go home. He sounds extremely whiny and petulant especially when earlier in the episode, Joffrey shrieks at his grandfather that he is not tired. One of these performances was intentional. The other? Not so much.
* When [[spoiler: Jamie]]'s hand gets sliced off at the end of "Walk of Punishment" he screams in terror and the scene abruptly cuts to the credits... with an upbeat and completely out of place [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgiTB2NFvAM rock song]], to the raucous laughter of everyone watching.

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* Loras Tyrell talking about jewelry, fashion, and his dream wedding. Because wedding, because apparently the saucy bedroom scenes with other men weren't enough to convince us he's gay.
* In "Mhysa", a very distraught Ygritte has Jon Snow at arrowpoint. Jon tries to plead his way out and tells her that he needs to go home. He sounds extremely whiny and petulant petulant, especially when earlier in the episode, Joffrey shrieks at his grandfather that he is not tired. One of these performances was intentional. The other? Not so much.
* When [[spoiler: Jamie]]'s hand gets sliced off at the end of "Walk of Punishment" he screams in terror and pain, and the scene abruptly cuts to the credits... credits… with an upbeat and completely out of place [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgiTB2NFvAM rock song]], to the raucous laughter of everyone watching.



* Dany's speech to Jorah about how she intends to rule Westeros is clearly meant to be a CrowningMomentOfAwesome and sign of potential character growth, but the speech itself is extremely cheesy and feels rather forced and gratuitous. This is not helped by Clarke's delivery (even her fans have agreed this was ''not'' her best moment): "[[DullSurprise I will do what queens do... I will]] [[LastSecondWordSwap roo.]]"

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* Dany's speech to Jorah about how she intends to rule Westeros is clearly meant to be a CrowningMomentOfAwesome an SugarWiki/{{awesome moment|s}} and sign of potential character growth, but the speech itself is extremely cheesy and feels rather forced and gratuitous. This is not helped by Clarke's delivery (even her fans have agreed this was ''not'' her best moment): "[[DullSurprise I will do what queens do... do… I will]] [[LastSecondWordSwap roo.]]"



* The shamelessly blatant PlotArmor that Ramsay Snow is wearing in "The Laws of Gods And Men", turning his shirtless back on a heavily-armed squad of the "best killers in the Iron Islands", while they all just wait patiently for him to sic the dogs on them.

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* The shamelessly blatant shamelessly-blatant PlotArmor that Ramsay Snow is wearing in "The Laws of Gods And Men", turning his shirtless back on a heavily-armed squad of the "best killers in the Iron Islands", while they all just wait patiently for him to sic the dogs on them.



* Sansa's black outfit in "The Mountain and the Viper," complete with dyed black hair and a black dress adorned with feathers. It's supposed to represent her becoming morally darker, but the fact it's ''so'' over the top just ruins the drama of the reveal. The comparisons to other dark-robed pop culture figures are endless. The actress lampshaded this in an interview, describing the look as "Sansa's gothic phase".

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* Sansa's black outfit in "The Mountain and the Viper," Viper", complete with dyed black hair and a black dress adorned with feathers. It's supposed to represent her becoming morally darker, but the fact it's ''so'' over the top over-the-top just ruins the drama of the reveal. The comparisons to other dark-robed pop culture figures are endless. The actress lampshaded this in an interview, describing the look as "Sansa's gothic phase".



* In "The Watchers on the Wall" when the giant shoots a man with its giant bow and arrow, the man practically gets launched into space.
* One piece of dialogue bears a quite unfortunate resemblance to a certain scene in ''Film/TeamAmericaWorldPolice'':

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* In "The Watchers on the Wall" Wall", when the giant shoots a man with its giant bow and arrow, the man practically gets launched into space.
* ** One piece of dialogue bears a quite unfortunate resemblance to a certain scene in ''Film/TeamAmericaWorldPolice'':



* [[spoiler:Ygritte]]'s death scene is somewhat undercut by her FamousLastWords being her CatchPhrase due to the amount of MemeticMutation it's undergone, not to mention the rare use of slow motion as the battle rages on that makes them look stuck in their own [[TalkingIsAFreeAction narrative bubble]]. Being [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4oQzTGTc_g soundtracked to Bon Jovi]] doesn't help either.
* Olly's confident "I've got your back" nod to Jon after spending the episode hugging his knees in abject terror (and occasionally operating the elevator) was too incongruous for some viewers to do anything but laugh at.

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* ** [[spoiler:Ygritte]]'s death scene is somewhat undercut by her FamousLastWords being her CatchPhrase due to the amount of MemeticMutation it's undergone, not to mention the rare use of slow motion as the battle rages on that makes them look stuck in their own [[TalkingIsAFreeAction narrative bubble]]. Being [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4oQzTGTc_g soundtracked to Bon Jovi]] doesn't help either.
* ** Olly's confident "I've got your back" nod to Jon after spending the episode hugging his knees in abject terror (and occasionally operating the elevator) was too incongruous for some viewers to do anything but laugh at.



* The Westerosi custom of putting stones with painted eyes on the deceased's eyelids can look pretty goofy at certain angles, which is certainly the case with the funerals of [[spoiler: Tywin, Joffrey, and Myrcella]].

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* The Westerosi custom of putting stones with painted eyes on the deceased's deceased person's eyelids can look pretty goofy at certain angles, which is certainly the case with the funerals of [[spoiler: Tywin, Joffrey, and Myrcella]].



* The Sand Snakes' introduction is narmy all around, with many comparing them to BMovie "Bad Girls" of the kind parodied by the Fox Force Five in ''Film/PulpFiction''. From Obara's aforementioned InfoDump to the cruel and convoluted torture of the captain who willingly brought them information, to teenaged Tyene's EstablishingCharacterMoment of childishly running to Ellaria calling out, "Mama!".

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* The Sand Snakes' introduction is narmy all around, with many comparing them to BMovie "Bad Girls" of the kind parodied by the Fox Force Five in ''Film/PulpFiction''. From ''Film/PulpFiction'', from Obara's aforementioned InfoDump to the cruel and convoluted torture of the captain who willingly brought them information, to teenaged Tyene's EstablishingCharacterMoment of childishly running to Ellaria calling out, out "Mama!".



* Tyene's little poison game with Bronn in "The Gift". The gratuitous nudity of flashing her boobs while clutching the prison bars to look like a stripper, the FridgeLogic of why she would use slow-acting poison on a snatch-and-grab kidnapping and why arousal would be enough to trigger it when combat wasn't, not to mention her overall shift to a completely different personality all make it very tough to take seriously.

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* Tyene's little poison game with Bronn in "The Gift". The gratuitous nudity of flashing her boobs while clutching the prison bars to look like a stripper, the FridgeLogic of why she would use slow-acting poison on a snatch-and-grab kidnapping and why arousal would be enough to trigger it when combat wasn't, and not to mention her overall shift to a completely different personality all make it very tough to take seriously.



* Ramsay's VillainSue-ness really goes overboard this season when he derails Stannis' ''entire'' war effort with just 20 men in an off-screen raid, somehow destroying the food, horse lines, and siege engines of an army of thousands and setting fire to their tents and killing hundreds of horses not just unresisted but ''unspotted''. This ninja attack is so outlandish that many can only view it as surreal comedy.

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* Ramsay's VillainSue-ness really goes overboard this season when he derails Stannis' ''entire'' war effort with just 20 men in an off-screen raid, somehow destroying the food, horse lines, and siege engines of an army of thousands and setting fire to their tents and killing hundreds of horses horses, not just unresisted but ''unspotted''. This ninja attack is so outlandish that many can only view it as surreal comedy.



** Their appearance is also accompanied by an absurdly unholy chanting music that brings to mind the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5NI54QlvI sacrifice song]] from Series/SouthPark, as if we needed further proof these MalevolentMaskedMen massacring the populous are evil.

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** Their appearance is also accompanied by an absurdly unholy chanting music that brings to mind the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5NI54QlvI sacrifice song]] from Series/SouthPark, as if we needed further proof these MalevolentMaskedMen massacring the populous populace are evil.



** The dragon-riding itself on many levels. Besides the sudden shift into HighFantasy being jarring for some, many of the effects were comically bogus (particularly the utter lack of wind in Dany's hair), not to mention the numerous large spines on Drogon's back that made many giggle at just how, *ahem*, [[GroinAttack uncomfortable]] riding this dragon must be. Then there was how slow and awkward Dany was actually mounting while the Sons of the Harpy apparently [[MookChivalry did nothing to stop her]], and how—rather than attempting to harness Drogon against her enemies—Dany apparently just abandons her entire court to test drive her new ride.
* Ellaria empathizing with Jaime over his relationship with Cersei struck many people as downright weird for equating Dorne's EternalSexualFreedom with incest, and the scene itself serves no purpose beyond reminding us how much of an OpenSecret Jaime and Cersei's love affair is and how "liberal" Dorne is.

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** The dragon-riding itself on many levels. Besides the sudden shift into HighFantasy being jarring for some, many of the effects were [[SpecialEffectFailure comically bogus bogus]] (particularly the utter lack of wind in Dany's hair), not to mention the numerous large spines on Drogon's back that made many giggle at just how, *ahem*, [[GroinAttack uncomfortable]] riding this dragon must be. Then there was how slow and awkward Dany was actually mounting while the Sons of the Harpy apparently [[MookChivalry did nothing to stop her]], and how—rather how -- rather than attempting to harness Drogon against her enemies—Dany enemies -- Dany apparently just abandons her entire court to test drive test-drive her new ride.
* Ellaria empathizing with Jaime over his relationship with Cersei struck many people as being downright weird for equating Dorne's EternalSexualFreedom with incest, and the scene itself serves no purpose beyond reminding us how much of an OpenSecret Jaime and Cersei's love affair is and how "liberal" Dorne is.



** Then she dies, which is an, "Oh, for the love of ''God''!" moment all on its own, as it reveals the scene to be a comically clumsy attempt to yank at the heartstrings, and for a show that so often goes out of its way to avoid happy endings her being TooHappyToLive by having a PerfectlyArrangedMarriage and accepting her true father makes it laughably easy to predict her death.

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** Then she dies, which is an, an "Oh, for the love of ''God''!" moment all on its own, as it reveals the scene to be a comically clumsy attempt to yank at the heartstrings, and for a show that so often goes out of its way to avoid happy endings her being TooHappyToLive by having a PerfectlyArrangedMarriage and accepting her true father makes it laughably easy to predict her death.



* The line "You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy." is a strong candidate for the worst line ever written for the show, and thus a fair representation of the entire Dorne storyline. It's so bad that one would be excused for thinking it's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1GA4qcbwjI shout-out]] to a masterpiece by the name of ''Film/SharkAttack3Megalodon''.

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* The line "You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy." is a strong candidate for the worst line ever written for the show, and thus a fair representation of [[IdiotPlot the entire Dorne storyline.storyline]]. It's so bad that one would be excused for thinking it's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1GA4qcbwjI shout-out]] to a masterpiece by the name of ''Film/SharkAttack3Megalodon''.



* The tragedy (or catharsis) of Stannis' HumiliationConga in "Mhysa" can cross right over into farce via it's UpToEleven nature: his army deserts, his wife hangs herself, his guru abandons him, etc. Most of it happens off-screen and in such a ludicrously short time that the second he finishes hearing awful news even worse news arrives until it feels like an infomercial ("But wait, there's more!") and you could be forgiven for expecting [[Film/RobinHoodMenInTights Blinkin]] to appear and comment, "Oh, it's good to home, ain't it, Master Stannis?"
** The battle of Winterfell is too ridiculous to be taken seriously. An entire season of build-up to this very moment, the Bolton army approaches, Stannis' theme comes up as he draws his sword, the armies clash... and five seconds later we see Stannis' army decimated and Ramsay once again completely unscathed and basically saying "Okay boys, we're done here. I gotta get back to raping my wife".
** This culminates in Brienne killing Stannis in the name of the "rightful" King Renly, a statement that (though likely in-character) is just too solemnly untruthful for many to take [[https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10485940_697412917071887_1640100858989780483_o.jpg seriously]] since Renly was many things but never the rightful king by any law of the Seven Kingdoms (as ''he himself'' acknowledged), which can ironically make Brienne come across as a massive {{hypocrite}} for invoking the title of "rightful king" in killing a man who's claim was unambiguously stronger than Renly's.
** What really cements the hilarity of all this is Stannis' utter ''bemusement'' since he [[UnknownRival barely knows]] who Brienne even ''is'', much less what he could've done to earn her hatred. It's only once she launches into her melodramatic MotiveRant that he understands and stoically resigns himself to it, as if this is just the cherry on top of the shit-cake his life turned into.
* The location scouts did a very good job with Dorne… but the Alcazar of Seville is such a well-known landmark, and its architecture and decor are so stereotypically Moorish Andalusian, that some locals find their suspension of disbelief shattered to pieces whenever Dorne appears.

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* The tragedy (or catharsis) of Stannis' HumiliationConga in "Mhysa" can cross right over into farce via it's UpToEleven nature: his army deserts, deserts him, his wife hangs herself, his guru abandons him, etc. Most of it happens off-screen and in such a ludicrously short time that the second he finishes hearing awful news news, even worse news arrives until it feels like an infomercial ("But wait, there's more!") and you could be forgiven for expecting [[Film/RobinHoodMenInTights Blinkin]] to appear and comment, "Oh, it's good to home, ain't it, Master Stannis?"
** The battle of Winterfell is too ridiculous to be taken seriously. An entire season of build-up to this very moment, the Bolton army approaches, Stannis' theme comes up as he draws his sword, the armies clash... clash… and five seconds later we see Stannis' army decimated and Ramsay once again completely unscathed and basically saying "Okay boys, we're done here. I gotta get back to raping my wife".
** This culminates in Brienne killing Stannis in the name of the "rightful" King Renly, a statement that (though likely in-character) is just too solemnly untruthful for many to take [[https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10485940_697412917071887_1640100858989780483_o.jpg seriously]] since Renly was many things but never the rightful king by any law of the Seven Kingdoms (as ''he himself'' acknowledged), which can ironically make Brienne come across as a massive {{hypocrite}} for invoking the title of "rightful king" in killing a man who's whose claim was unambiguously stronger than Renly's.
** What really cements the hilarity of all this is Stannis' utter ''bemusement'' ''bemusement'', since he [[UnknownRival barely knows]] who Brienne even ''is'', much less what he could've done to earn her hatred. It's only once she launches into her melodramatic MotiveRant that he understands and stoically resigns himself to it, as if this is just the cherry on top of the shit-cake his life turned into.
* The location scouts did a very good job with Dorne… Dorne, but the Alcazar of Seville is such a well-known landmark, and its architecture and decor are so stereotypically Moorish Andalusian, that some locals find their suspension of disbelief shattered to pieces whenever Dorne appears.



* "Mother's Mercy" can also be regarded as very silly for the sheer number of {{Dashed Plot Line}}s and {{Cliffhanger}}s piled one after the other to the point that momentous events like [[spoiler:Stannis' defeat, Sansa's escape, Myrcella's poisoning, and Jon's stabbing]]) register with DullSurprise by the end.
* Creator/LenaHeadey was pregnant during filming and has yet to do a nude scene for the show, so Cersei's walk of shame is achieved with a combination of close-ups, body double shots where her face is conspicuously avoided, and occasionally CG-ing her head (sometimes rather poorly) onto the double. Once you notice, it's impossible to unsee.

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* "Mother's Mercy" can also be regarded as very silly for the sheer number of {{Dashed Plot Line}}s and {{Cliffhanger}}s piled one after the other to the point that momentous events like [[spoiler:Stannis' defeat, Sansa's escape, Myrcella's poisoning, poisoning and Jon's stabbing]]) register with DullSurprise by the end.
* Creator/LenaHeadey was pregnant during filming and has yet to do a nude scene for the show, so Cersei's walk of shame is achieved with a combination of close-ups, body double shots where her face is conspicuously avoided, and occasionally CG-ing her head (sometimes [[SpecialEffectFailure rather poorly) poorly]]) onto the double. Once you notice, it's impossible to unsee.



** The fact that the walk itself, not counting the preceding and subsequent Cersei scenes, took over 6 minutes puts it somewhere between {{Filler}} and OverlyLongGag.

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** The fact that the walk itself, not itself (not counting the preceding and subsequent Cersei scenes, scenes) took over 6 minutes puts it somewhere between {{Filler}} and OverlyLongGag.



** The fact Jon's loyalists consist of Davos, Edd... and a few random extras. You can just imagine the writers' MassOhCrap on realizing maybe they shouldn't have killed off Pyp and Grenn when they did.
* Dorne continues to deliver with its [[SarcasmMode solid storyline]] about those ''[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess Xena]]'' rejects avenging Oberyn by [[spoiler: murdering all his remaining relatives]] in an [[DroppedABridgeOnHim out-of-nowhere]] coup justified by InsaneTrollLogic and accompanied by gratuitous gloating.
** Tyene "[[FanNickname the Bad Pussy]]" effortlessly kills [[spoiler: Areo Hotah]], the elite bodyguard three times her size who apparently FailedASpotCheck on the obvious dagger sticking out of her boot. Even [[spoiler: the crippled Prince Doran]] gave more of a fight when being killed by Ellaria.

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** The fact Jon's loyalists consist of Davos, Edd... Edd… and a few random extras. You can just imagine the writers' MassOhCrap on realizing maybe they shouldn't have killed off Pyp and Grenn when they did.
* Dorne continues to deliver with its [[SarcasmMode solid storyline]] about those ''[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess Xena]]'' rejects avenging Oberyn by [[spoiler: murdering all his remaining relatives]] in an [[DroppedABridgeOnHim out-of-nowhere]] coup justified by InsaneTrollLogic and accompanied by gratuitous gloating.
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** Tyene "[[FanNickname the Bad Pussy]]" effortlessly kills [[spoiler: Areo Hotah]], the elite bodyguard three times her size size, who apparently FailedASpotCheck on the obvious dagger sticking out of her boot. Even [[spoiler: the crippled Prince Doran]] gave more of a fight when being killed by Ellaria.



* Ramsay's grief for Myranda almost makes you feel sorry for his loss, if mourner and mournee weren't such despicable characters. What happens next can only be summarized as ''"OK, that's enough humanizing for today, back to business!"'' when Ramsay orders her body to be butchered for meat.

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* Ramsay's grief for Myranda almost makes you feel sorry for his loss, if mourner and mournee weren't such despicable characters. What happens next can only be summarized as ''"OK, "OK, that's enough humanizing for today, back to business!"'' business!" when Ramsay orders her body to be butchered for meat.



* Jaime confesses more sins to the High Sparrow's face than all his other victims combined (heck, Margaery was seized for ''perjury'' and remanded for "not being without sin"), all while ''surrounded by armed Sparrows''... but the High Sparrow just keeps babbling on about gods-fearing and overthrowing empires, then just leaves without any interest in seizing Jaime.

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* Jaime confesses more sins to the High Sparrow's face than all his other victims combined (heck, Margaery was seized for ''perjury'' and remanded for "not being without sin"), all while ''surrounded by armed Sparrows''... Sparrows''… but the High Sparrow just keeps babbling on about gods-fearing and overthrowing empires, empires and then just leaves without any interest in seizing Jaime.



** The fact Euron openly admits to murdering his brother King Balon and his first act as king is to ask, "Where are my niece and nephew? Let's go murder them!" Aren't kin-slaying and king-slaying meant to be taboo in Westeros?

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** The fact that Euron openly admits to murdering his brother King Balon and his first act as king is to ask, "Where are my niece and nephew? Let's go murder them!" Aren't kin-slaying and king-slaying meant to be taboo in Westeros?



* After leaving the Faceless Men, Arya clearly knows they plan to kill her and spends a LockAndLoadMontage preparing, but then just strolls around nonchalantly until she's accosted by an old woman who immediately shivs her multiple times before stopping to reveal she's actually the Waif and [[VillainBall give Arya time to escape]], which begs the question what Arya thought she was doing and why the Waif wore a disguise at all if it only got in the way of her gloating.

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* After leaving the Faceless Men, Arya clearly knows they plan to kill her and spends a LockAndLoadMontage preparing, but then just strolls around nonchalantly until she's accosted by an old woman who immediately shivs her multiple times before stopping to reveal she's actually the Waif and [[VillainBall give Arya time to escape]], which begs the question of what Arya thought she was doing and why the Waif wore a disguise at all if it only got in the way of her gloating.



* The Hound remarking that he survived by ThePowerOfHate. Apparently ThePowerOfHate is strong enough to prevent infection and set bones properly enough to prevent a bad limp.

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* The Hound [[spoiler:The Hound]] remarking that he survived by ThePowerOfHate. Apparently ThePowerOfHate is strong enough to prevent infection and set bones properly enough to prevent a bad limp.



** The sheer degree of HollywoodHealing Arya manages throughout the sequence also deserves mention. Between episodes 6.07 and 6.08, she's stabbed multiple times in the stomach, jumps into an undoubtedly polluted river, receives amateur treatment and one night of rest before engaging in a high-speed parkour chase, takes several significant falls, rolls down a stone staircase, and reopens her hastily-bandaged wounds, yet at the end of the episode she's able to stride confidently out of the House of Black and White. It's hard to believe the Waif ever could have killed her, as apparently ''[[MadeOfIron nothing]]'' can.
** Made worse by the amount of ApatheticCitizens during the whole pursuit (bonus points for the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment men's sauna]]), as if nobody cares about the two women fighting, parkouring, and pushing stuff around.

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** The sheer degree of HollywoodHealing Arya manages throughout the sequence also deserves mention. Between episodes 6.07 7 and 6.08, 8, she's stabbed multiple times in the stomach, jumps into an undoubtedly polluted river, receives amateur treatment and one night of rest before engaging in a high-speed parkour [[LeParkour parkour]] chase, takes several significant falls, rolls down a stone staircase, and reopens her hastily-bandaged wounds, yet at the end of the episode she's able to stride confidently out of the House of Black and White. It's hard to believe the Waif ever could have killed her, as apparently ''[[MadeOfIron nothing]]'' can.
** Made worse by the amount of ApatheticCitizens during the whole pursuit (bonus points for the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment men's sauna]]), as if nobody cares about the two women girls fighting, parkouring, and pushing stuff around.



* The blatant change of wording from "trebuchet" to its kinda-sorta-maybe synonym "catapult" in the show's version of Jaime's much-loved threat to Edmure Tully reeks of ViewersAreMorons. That Bronn offhandedly calls them "trebuchets" in the previous episode only makes the line seem even more comically reductive.
* When Jon mounts his horse to ride out to Rickon, attentive viewers can spot that his sword is [[https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qB2C54Mwfovy9SE/giphy.gif more flexible than it should be.]]
* Jon's race into every single arrow Ramsay's army can fire, none of them coming anywhere close (along with several hitting [[spoiler:Rickon]]'s body, like they were actually aiming for it). It's rather fitting that after three seasons of increasingly ridiculous PlotArmor, Ramsay could only be defeated by someone whose own Plot Armor was even more absurd.
* Remember Wun Wun the OneManArmy whacking wights left, right, and center with a huge log at Hardhome? Cherish those memories, you'll need them to counter the embarrassing shots of him pathetically waving his ''naked'' arms at the Bolton infantry and being generally useless despite having time to actually ''prepare'' for this battle.

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* The blatant change of wording from "trebuchet" to its kinda-sorta-maybe synonym "catapult" in the show's version of Jaime's much-loved threat to Edmure Tully reeks of ViewersAreMorons. That The fact that Bronn offhandedly calls them "trebuchets" in the previous episode only makes the line seem even more comically reductive.
* When Jon mounts his horse to ride out to Rickon, attentive viewers can spot that his sword is [[https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qB2C54Mwfovy9SE/giphy.gif more flexible flexible]] [[SpecialEffectFailure than it should be.]]
be]].
* Jon's race into every single arrow Ramsay's army can fire, none of them coming anywhere close (along with several hitting [[spoiler:Rickon]]'s body, like they were actually aiming for it). It's rather fitting that after three seasons of increasingly ridiculous PlotArmor, Ramsay could only be defeated by someone whose own Plot Armor plot armor was even more absurd.
* Remember Wun Wun as the OneManArmy whacking wights left, right, and center with a huge log at Hardhome? Cherish those memories, you'll need them to counter the embarrassing shots of him pathetically waving his ''naked'' arms at the Bolton infantry and being generally useless despite having time to actually ''prepare'' for this battle.
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** The Sons of the Harpy suddenly appear all around the stadium as if from BehindTheBlack, with none of the other spectators or guards noticing anything as they all put on those huge masks until after one of them has [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy already tried to the Queen]] (who's only saved by a ''contestant'' on the sand below).

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** The Sons of the Harpy suddenly appear all around the stadium as if from BehindTheBlack, with none of the other spectators or guards noticing anything as they all put on those huge masks until after one of them has [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy already tried to nearly killed the Queen]] (who's only saved by a ''contestant'' on the sand below).
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