History Narm / GameOfThrones

3rd Sep '17 11:07:23 AM Pren
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* The need to squeeze a season's worth of story into seven episodes means that Season 7 features even more absurd timeline shenanigans than in previous seasons. The director of "Beyond the Wall" even admitted that he tried to fudge things as much as possible by putting the land beyond the Wall in perpetual twilight, and just had to hope the story would get people invested enough that they'd overlook it.
2nd Sep '17 8:24:30 AM XFllo
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* Creator/LenaHeadey was pregnant during filming and has yet to do a nude scene for the show, so Cersei's walk of shame is achieved with a combination of close-ups, body double shots where her face is conspicuously avoided, and occasionally CG-ing her head (sometimes [[SpecialEffectFailure rather poorly]]) onto the double. Once you notice, it's impossible to unsee.
** This also applies to the scene of Cersei being prepared for the walk, where you can clearly see the double struggling to keep her hair in front of her face.
** The fact that the walk itself (not counting the preceding and subsequent Cersei scenes) took over 6 minutes puts it somewhere between {{Filler}} and OverlyLongGag.
* As part of TheConspiracy to assassinate [[spoiler: Jon Snow]], someone was given the job of ''painting a sign'' that says "Traitor". Imagine the debate that must have gone into that decision: "Hmm, how can we make it clear we're upset with him, other than repeatedly stabbing him to death? I know! We'll make him look at ''a sign''!", or the attendant debate over which PreMortemOneLiner to say aloud and which to put on a sign.
** It gets even sillier in the Season 6 premiere. '''[[WhatAnIdiot They didn't take the sign down]]'', and left the corpse lying under it. It takes Davos about two seconds to put two and two together and realize what happened. Way to go, guys.

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* Creator/LenaHeadey was pregnant during filming and has yet to do a nude scene for the show, so Cersei's walk of shame is achieved with a combination of close-ups, body double shots where her face is conspicuously avoided, and occasionally CG-ing her head (sometimes [[SpecialEffectFailure rather poorly]]) onto the double. Once you notice, it's impossible to unsee.
** This also applies to the scene of Cersei being prepared for the walk, where you can clearly see the double struggling to keep her hair in front of her face.
** The fact that the walk itself (not counting the preceding and subsequent Cersei scenes) took over 6 minutes puts it somewhere between {{Filler}} and OverlyLongGag.
* As part of TheConspiracy to assassinate [[spoiler: Jon Snow]], someone was given the job of ''painting a sign'' that says "Traitor". Imagine the debate that must have gone into that decision: "Hmm, how can we make it clear we're upset with him, other than repeatedly stabbing him to death? I know! We'll make him look at ''a sign''!", or the attendant debate over which PreMortemOneLiner to say aloud and which to put on a sign.
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sign. It gets even sillier in the Season 6 premiere. '''[[WhatAnIdiot They didn't take the sign down]]'', and left the corpse lying under it. It takes Davos about two seconds to put two and two together and realize what happened. Way to go, guys.
2nd Sep '17 8:22:48 AM XFllo
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--> '''Gilly:''' Promise me you won't die.\\

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--> ---> '''Gilly:''' Promise me you won't die.\\



* Jon meeting Smalljon Umber during the battle is quite bizarrely played like these two have been lifelong mortal enemies, when they actually have nothing to do with each other as far as we've seen.
** Well, Jon was the Lord Commander that had let thousands of wildings through the wall, while Smalljon had gotten Jon's little brother killed.
2nd Sep '17 8:21:29 AM XFllo
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** The sheer degree of HollywoodHealing Arya manages throughout the sequence also deserves mention. Between episodes 7 and 8, she gets stabbed multiple times in the stomach, jumps into an undoubtedly polluted river, receives amateur treatment and one night of rest before engaging in a high-speed [[LeParkour parkour]] chase, takes several significant falls, rolls down a stone staircase, and reopens her hastily-bandaged wounds, and yet at the end of the episode she's somehow able to stride confidently out of the House of Black and White. It's hard to believe the Waif ever could have killed her, as apparently ''[[MadeOfIron nothing]]'' can.
** Made worse by the number of ApatheticCitizens during the whole pursuit (bonus points for the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment men's sauna]]), as if nobody cares about the two girls fighting, parkouring, and pushing stuff around.
** Arya rolls down a ridiculous number of steps and hits ''every single fruit basket'' on the way down. Not only does it feel like something out of a cartoon (with cries of "My basket!" likely reminding ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fans of a certain [[ButtMonkey cabbage merchant]]), but it honestly looks like Arya did it on purpose and had to struggle to keep the roll going.
* The death of Lady Crane, with Arya discovering her body (which has a pair of blunt stool legs stuck through her shoulders). Even if you buy that the Waif could have somehow done it, it still clearly wouldn't have killed her.

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** * The sheer degree of HollywoodHealing Arya manages throughout the sequence also deserves mention.sequence. Between episodes 7 and 8, she gets stabbed multiple times in the stomach, jumps into an undoubtedly polluted river, receives amateur treatment and one night of rest before engaging in a high-speed [[LeParkour parkour]] chase, takes several significant falls, rolls down a stone staircase, and reopens her hastily-bandaged wounds, and yet at the end of the episode she's somehow able to stride confidently out of the House of Black and White. It's hard to believe the Waif ever could have killed her, as apparently ''[[MadeOfIron nothing]]'' can.
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can. Made worse by the number of ApatheticCitizens during the whole pursuit (bonus points for the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment men's sauna]]), pursuit, as if nobody cares about the two girls fighting, parkouring, and pushing stuff around.
** * Arya rolls down a ridiculous number of steps and hits ''every single fruit basket'' on the way down. Not only does it feel like something out of a cartoon (with cries of "My basket!" likely reminding ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fans of a certain [[ButtMonkey cabbage merchant]]), cartoon, but it honestly looks like Arya did it on purpose and had to struggle to keep the roll going.
* The death of Lady Crane, with Arya discovering her body (which has a pair of blunt stool legs stuck through her shoulders). Even if you buy that the Waif could have somehow done it, it still clearly wouldn't have killed her.
going.
31st Aug '17 6:28:07 PM Scabbard
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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]] is undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6, namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop.

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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]] years[[/note]]) is undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6, namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop.
31st Aug '17 6:27:15 PM Scabbard
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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]]is undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6 namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop [[note]]especially Dany's line, "They were here before there were Targaryens or Starks", as she knows fully well that her family were exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years.[[/note]]

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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]]is years[[/note]] is undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6 6, namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop [[note]]especially Dany's line, "They were here before there were Targaryens or Starks", as she knows fully well that her family were exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years.[[/note]]BrokenAesop.
31st Aug '17 6:26:34 PM Scabbard
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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the twois undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6 namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop [[note]]especially Dany's line, "They were here before there were Targaryens or Starks", as she knows fully well that her family were exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years.[[/note]]

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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the twois two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]]is undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6 namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop [[note]]especially Dany's line, "They were here before there were Targaryens or Starks", as she knows fully well that her family were exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years.[[/note]]
31st Aug '17 6:24:27 PM Scabbard
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--->-- '''Tyene Sand'''[[note]] Cue Bronn giving a "What the fuck?" face, which is what everyone's reaction to the scene was.

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--->-- '''Tyene Sand'''[[note]] Cue Bronn giving a "What the fuck?" face, which is what everyone's reaction to the scene was.[[/note]]
31st Aug '17 6:21:29 PM Scabbard
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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]] is undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6 namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop.

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** The whole use of the cave and the murals and the faux-profound dialogue between the two (especially Dany's line, "they were here before there were Targaryens or Starks"[[note]]Why this should surprise her is the question, since she knows fully well that her family was exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years[[/note]] is twois undercut for the fact that it clearly contradicts what Bran found out in Season 6 namely that the Children of the Forest ''created'' the White Walkers as weapons only to gain serious buyers' remorse, and Jon's pitch about putting aside differences to fight a common enemy is clearly a BrokenAesop. BrokenAesop [[note]]especially Dany's line, "They were here before there were Targaryens or Starks", as she knows fully well that her family were exiles from Valyria and have only been in Westeros for 400 years.[[/note]]
30th Aug '17 6:51:23 AM XFllo
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** Not helping is Bran's voice over, [[spoiler:drawing an obvious comparison between the love of Rhaegar and Lyanna and the 'love' of Jon and Daenerys -- and reinforcing the fact that, yes, the couple currently banging are aunt and nephew.]]
* Jon's true name is revealed to be [[spoiler: Aegon Targaryen]]... a dramatic moment were it not for the fact that [[spoiler: Rhaegar Targaryen's first son was ''also'' named Aegon, meaning Rhaegar gave his two sons ''[[NamesTheSame the exact same name.]]'']]
** Bran thinks the secret of Jon's parentage just means Jon's last name is ''Sand'', not knowing he is trueborn. We shortly revisit the flashback from season 6, and this time we hear Lyanna call him Aegon ''Targaryen''. It makes Bran look dumb.
*** Not to mention that Bran claims Jon's name should be Sand because he was born in Dorne instead of the North...but no one ever thought he was ''born'' in the North. Ned rode back home with him after the rebellion. The name always came from being ''raised'' there, so there's really no reason for Bran to think it should change at all.
** Also, despite [[{{Seer}} his powers]], Bran never saw that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married until ''Sam tells him personally''.

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** Not helping is Bran's voice over, [[spoiler:drawing an obvious comparison between the love of Rhaegar and Lyanna and the 'love' of Jon and Daenerys -- and reinforcing the fact that, yes, the couple currently banging are aunt and nephew.]]
* Jon's true name is revealed to be [[spoiler: Aegon Targaryen]]... Targaryen... a dramatic moment were it not for the fact that [[spoiler: Rhaegar Targaryen's first son was ''also'' named Aegon, meaning Rhaegar gave his two sons ''[[NamesTheSame the exact same name.]]'']]
** Bran thinks the secret of Jon's parentage just means Jon's last name is ''Sand'', not knowing he is trueborn. We shortly revisit the flashback from season 6, and this time we hear Lyanna call him Aegon ''Targaryen''. It makes Bran look dumb.
*** Not to mention that Bran claims Jon's name should be Sand because he was born in Dorne instead of the North...but no one ever thought he was ''born'' in the North. Ned rode back home with him after the rebellion. The name always came from being ''raised'' there, so there's really no reason for Bran to think it should change at all.
** Also, despite [[{{Seer}} his powers]], Bran never saw that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married until ''Sam tells him personally''.
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