History Music / SexPistols

8th Oct '17 9:39:30 PM MarkLungo
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The turning point from band to spectacle is usually considered to be the firing of Glen Matlock (their [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]]-liking, actually capable bassist who co-wrote most of their early songs) and the hiring of Music/SidVicious. Notably, Vicious didn't play any bass on their album ''Music/NeverMindTheBollocksHeresTheSexPistols'' (bar "Bodies"), with bass duties handled by Jones and (on "Anarchy in the U.K.") Matlock. In fact, he [[DreadfulMusician didn't even know how to play his instrument]], at least at first. But the band's appeal in general [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth had nothing to do with musicianship, more with their image, attitude and what the way they liberated a lot of youngsters to be themselves]]. They outraged countless people with their BrutalHonesty lyrics aimed at the conformity of {{Rock}} and {{Pop}}, AntiLoveSong material, swearing and shocking attacks on the British government. "God Save the Queen" was a savage criticism of the British Royal Family and became the alternative anthem during the 25th anniversary of Elizabeth II's crowning. Although the song peaked at No. 2 in the UK charts, many radio stations refused to play it, even denying its chart position. An entire nation was polarized over the success of this "filthy, degenerate band." One time when Rotten went home after a recording session he was attacked in the street by a bunch of people out of retaliation for "God Save the Queen". Upon arrival at hospital after this incident, police were called to arrest ''him''. The national outrage about the Sex Pistols became so gigantic that many concert halls cancelled their gigs and they had to perform as a surprise act in various cities.

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The turning point from band to spectacle is usually considered to be the firing of Glen Matlock (their [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]]-liking, actually capable bassist who co-wrote most of their early songs) and the hiring of Music/SidVicious. Notably, Vicious didn't play any bass on their album ''Music/NeverMindTheBollocksHeresTheSexPistols'' (bar "Bodies"), with bass duties handled by Jones and (on "Anarchy in the U.K.") Matlock. In fact, he [[DreadfulMusician didn't even know how to play his instrument]], at least at first. But the band's appeal in general [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth had nothing to do with musicianship, more with their image, attitude and what the way they liberated a lot of youngsters to be themselves]]. They outraged countless people with their BrutalHonesty lyrics aimed at the conformity of {{Rock}} and {{Pop}}, AntiLoveSong material, swearing and shocking attacks on the British government. "God Save the Queen" was a savage criticism of the British Royal Family and became the alternative anthem during the 25th anniversary of Elizabeth II's crowning. Although the song peaked at No. 2 in the UK charts, many radio stations refused to play it, even denying its chart position. An entire nation was polarized over the success of this "filthy, degenerate band." One time when Rotten went home after a recording session he was attacked in the street by a bunch of people out of retaliation for "God Save the Queen". Upon arrival at hospital after this incident, police were called to arrest ''him''. The national outrage about the Sex Pistols became so gigantic that many concert halls cancelled their gigs and they had to perform as a surprise act in various cities.



* JerkassFacade: ''Possibly'' Johnny Rotten/Lydon. Certainly a pretty abrasive guy and with strong opinions he was not at all shy about sharing, but his career and other work post-Pistols suggests he was at least in part playing up to the image in the public eye.[[note]]You might call it his [[Music/PublicImageLtd public image]].[[/note]] Sid might also have started out this way before sadly becoming an ''actual'' {{Jerkass}}.

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* JerkassFacade: ''Possibly'' Johnny Rotten/Lydon. Certainly a pretty abrasive guy and with strong opinions he was not at all shy about sharing, but his career and other work post-Pistols suggests he was at least in part playing up to the image in the public eye.[[note]]You might call it his [[Music/PublicImageLtd public image]].[[/note]] Sid might also have started out this way before sadly becoming [[BecomingTheMask becoming]] an ''actual'' {{Jerkass}}.



* LocationSong: "Holidays in the Sun", where the band is near the Berlin Wall, though even Johnny Rotten isn't sure why they are there in the first place. "Anarchy in the U.K." sings how anarchy came to the United Kingdom. "New York", a PretenderDiss at the Music/NewYorkDolls.

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* LocationSong: "Holidays in the Sun", where the band is near the Berlin Wall, UsefulNotes/BerlinWall, though even Johnny Rotten isn't sure why they are there in the first place. "Anarchy in the U.K." sings how anarchy came to the United Kingdom. "New York", a PretenderDiss at the Music/NewYorkDolls.
20th Feb '17 8:42:07 PM bt8257
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No discussion of the Sex Pistols would be complete without a mention of Malcolm [=Mc=]Laren, their manager, and [[YokoOhNo Nancy Spungen, Vicious' girlfriend.]] [=Mc=]Laren had a habit of [[GladIThoughtOfIt taking the Pistols' ideas for his own,]] and spreading the [[TheSvengali myth that the whole group was his Structuralist art project]]. Spungen was stabbed to death in 1978. Vicious was imprisoned for Spungen's death (whether it was him or not is another, untold story) and died of a drug overdose in 1979 after his release on bail.

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No discussion of the Sex Pistols would be complete without a mention of mentioning Malcolm [=Mc=]Laren, their manager, and [[YokoOhNo Nancy Spungen, Vicious' girlfriend.]] [=Mc=]Laren had a habit of [[GladIThoughtOfIt taking the Pistols' ideas for his own,]] and spreading the [[TheSvengali myth that the whole group was his Structuralist art project]]. Spungen was stabbed to death in 1978. Vicious was imprisoned for Spungen's death (whether it was him or not is another, untold story) and died of a drug overdose in 1979 after his release on bail.
17th Feb '17 10:47:04 PM MarkLungo
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--> ''The simple facts of the matter were that Chris was hired by Malcolm to do a series of singles for the Sex Pistols. I was hired by Malcolm to do a series of album tracks with the Sex Pistols. Life got slightly complicated, because I did a few album tracks that Chris remade as singles. Also, Chris started a couple of tracks, which got abandoned as singles, which I remade to be used as album tracks. On quite a large number of songs, when we'd finished the album, we had two versions of the song. I couldn't quite understand why Malcolm kept chopping and changing between different versions of different songs. It slowly dawned on Chris and myself that Malcolm was trying to slip between two stools and not pay Chris or me. So we said, "I'll tell you what, Malcolm. Whatever's on the Sex Pistols' album, it was either done by me or Chris, and you can pay us and we'll divvy it out amongst our little selves." Which is what we did. But it did force that very strange credit, simply because the sleeve was printed long before it was finally decided which version of each individual song was on the record. If we'd known, it would have said 'produced by Bill Price' or 'produced by Chris Thomas'. That's how you ended up with that credit, 'produced by Bill Price or Chris Thomas'.''

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--> ''The simple facts of the matter were that Chris [Thomas] was hired by Malcolm to do a series of singles for the Sex Pistols. I was hired by Malcolm to do a series of album tracks with the Sex Pistols. Life got slightly complicated, because I did a few album tracks that Chris remade as singles. Also, Chris started a couple of tracks, which got abandoned as singles, which I remade to be used as album tracks. On quite a large number of songs, when we'd finished the album, we had two versions of the song. I couldn't quite understand why Malcolm kept chopping and changing between different versions of different songs. It slowly dawned on Chris and myself that Malcolm was trying to slip between two stools and not pay Chris or me. So we said, "I'll tell you what, Malcolm. Whatever's on the Sex Pistols' album, it was either done by me or Chris, and you can pay us and we'll divvy it out amongst our little selves." Which is what we did. But it did force that very strange credit, simply because the sleeve was printed long before it was finally decided which version of each individual song was on the record. If we'd known, it would have said 'produced by Bill Price' or 'produced by Chris Thomas'. That's how you ended up with that credit, 'produced by Bill Price or Chris Thomas'.''
17th Feb '17 10:36:01 PM MarkLungo
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* JerkassFacade: ''Possibly'' Johnny Rotten/Lydon. Certainly a pretty abrasive guy and with strong opinions he was not at all shy about sharing, but his career and other work post-''Pistols'' suggests he was at least in part playing up to the image in the public eye. Sid might also have started out this way before sadly becoming an ''actual'' [[Jerkass]].

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* JerkassFacade: ''Possibly'' Johnny Rotten/Lydon. Certainly a pretty abrasive guy and with strong opinions he was not at all shy about sharing, but his career and other work post-''Pistols'' post-Pistols suggests he was at least in part playing up to the image in the public eye. eye.[[note]]You might call it his [[Music/PublicImageLtd public image]].[[/note]] Sid might also have started out this way before sadly becoming an ''actual'' [[Jerkass]].{{Jerkass}}.
17th Feb '17 10:32:13 PM MarkLungo
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The band was put together by Malcolm [=Mc=]Laren. The lead singer Johnny Rotten, real name John Lydon, was discovered after [=Mc=]Laren saw him wearing a Music/PinkFloyd T-shirt he had altered to read "I Hate Pink Floyd," the irony being that Rotten actually ''didn't'' hate Pink Floyd; it was just to be nonconformist. (Additionally, [=Mc=]Laren once got pissed at Lydon because in an interview he named some of his musical influences as Music/{{Can}}, Music/VanDerGraafGenerator and Music/CaptainBeefheart, going against the punk image he was trying to cultivate.). Lydon couldn't sing, didn't look particularly like a pop star, but he was a genuine teenager from working class origins who was pretty fed up with a lot of things and now finally got a soapbox to voice his opinions. Fellow band members were brought together and the Sex Pistols were born.

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The band was put together by Malcolm [=Mc=]Laren. The lead singer Johnny Rotten, real name John Lydon, was discovered after [=Mc=]Laren saw him wearing a Music/PinkFloyd T-shirt he had altered to read "I Hate Pink Floyd," the irony being that Rotten actually ''didn't'' hate Pink Floyd; it was just to be nonconformist. (Additionally, [=Mc=]Laren once got pissed at Lydon because in an interview he named some of his musical influences as Music/{{Can}}, Music/VanDerGraafGenerator and Music/CaptainBeefheart, going against the punk image he was trying to cultivate.). Lydon couldn't sing, didn't look particularly like a pop star, but he was a genuine teenager from [[WorkingClassHero working class origins origins]] who was pretty fed up with a lot of things and now finally got a soapbox to voice his opinions. Fellow band members were brought together and the Sex Pistols were born.



The turning point from band to spectacle is usually considered to be the firing of Glen Matlock (their [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]]-liking, actually capable bassist who co-wrote most of their early songs) and the hiring of Music/SidVicious. Notably, Vicious didn't play any bass on their album ''Music/NeverMindTheBollocksHeresTheSexPistols'' (bar "Bodies"), with bass duties handled by Jones and (on "Anarchy in the U.K.") Matlock. In fact, he [[DreadfulMusician didn't even know how to play his instrument]]. But the band's appeal in general [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth had nothing to do with musicianship, more with their image, attitude and what the way they liberated a lot of youngsters to be theirselves]]. They outraged countless people with their BrutalHonesty lyrics aimed at the conformity of {{Rock}} and {{Pop}}, AntiLoveSong material, swearing and shocking attacks on the British government. "God Save the Queen" was a savage criticism of the British Royal Family and became the alternative anthem during the 25th anniversary of Elizabeth II's crowning. Although the song peaked at No. 2 in the UK charts, many radio stations refused to play it, even denying its chart position. An entire nation was polarized over the success of this "filthy, degenerate band." One time when Rotten went home after a recording session he was attacked in the street by a bunch of people out of retaliation for "God Save the Queen". Upon arrival at hospital after this incident, police were called to arrest him. The national outrage about the Sex Pistols became so gigantic that many concert halls cancelled their gigs and they had to perform as a surprise act in various cities.

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The turning point from band to spectacle is usually considered to be the firing of Glen Matlock (their [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]]-liking, actually capable bassist who co-wrote most of their early songs) and the hiring of Music/SidVicious. Notably, Vicious didn't play any bass on their album ''Music/NeverMindTheBollocksHeresTheSexPistols'' (bar "Bodies"), with bass duties handled by Jones and (on "Anarchy in the U.K.") Matlock. In fact, he [[DreadfulMusician didn't even know how to play his instrument]]. instrument]], at least at first. But the band's appeal in general [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth had nothing to do with musicianship, more with their image, attitude and what the way they liberated a lot of youngsters to be theirselves]].themselves]]. They outraged countless people with their BrutalHonesty lyrics aimed at the conformity of {{Rock}} and {{Pop}}, AntiLoveSong material, swearing and shocking attacks on the British government. "God Save the Queen" was a savage criticism of the British Royal Family and became the alternative anthem during the 25th anniversary of Elizabeth II's crowning. Although the song peaked at No. 2 in the UK charts, many radio stations refused to play it, even denying its chart position. An entire nation was polarized over the success of this "filthy, degenerate band." One time when Rotten went home after a recording session he was attacked in the street by a bunch of people out of retaliation for "God Save the Queen". Upon arrival at hospital after this incident, police were called to arrest him.''him''. The national outrage about the Sex Pistols became so gigantic that many concert halls cancelled their gigs and they had to perform as a surprise act in various cities.


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* FunWithAcronyms: The gigs when the band had to play under pseudonyms were collectively known as SPOTS ('''S'''ex '''P'''istols '''O'''n '''T'''our '''S'''ecretly).
17th Feb '17 10:06:40 PM MarkLungo
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The band was put together by Malcolm [=Mc=]Laren. The lead singer Johnny Rotten, real name John Lydon, was discovered after [=Mc=]Laren saw him wearing a Music/PinkFloyd T-shirt he had altered to read "I Hate Pink Floyd," the irony being that Rotten actually ''didn't'' hate Pink Floyd; it was just to be nonconformist. Additionally, [=Mc=]Laren once got pissed at Lydon because in an interview he named some of his musical influences as Music/{{Can}}, Music/VanDerGraafGenerator and Music/CaptainBeefheart, going against the punk image he was trying to cultivate.). Lydon couldn't sing, didn't look particularly like a pop star, but he was a genuine teenager from working class origins who was pretty fed up with a lot of things and now finally got a soapbox to voice his opinions. Fellow band members were brought together and the Sex Pistols were born.

Famously, the band performed to a crowd of approximately 42 people at the Manchester Free Trade Hall in Manchester England in June of 1976. As recounted in the film ''Film/TwentyFourHourPartyPeople,'' each person in the crowd either later formed a band (future members of Music/TheSmiths, Music/JoyDivision (and by extension Music/NewOrder), Music/TheFall, The Music/{{Buzzcocks}}, Music/{{Magazine}}, and Simply Red) or had a pivotal role in shaping that city's music scene (Factory Records founder Tony Wilson and NME journalist Paul Morley). This show alone was proof to the band's aforementioned reaching influence on punk, PostPunk, {{New Wave|Music}} and eventually [[AlternativeRock alternative]] and [[IndiePop indie rock music.]]

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The band was put together by Malcolm [=Mc=]Laren. The lead singer Johnny Rotten, real name John Lydon, was discovered after [=Mc=]Laren saw him wearing a Music/PinkFloyd T-shirt he had altered to read "I Hate Pink Floyd," the irony being that Rotten actually ''didn't'' hate Pink Floyd; it was just to be nonconformist. Additionally, (Additionally, [=Mc=]Laren once got pissed at Lydon because in an interview he named some of his musical influences as Music/{{Can}}, Music/VanDerGraafGenerator and Music/CaptainBeefheart, going against the punk image he was trying to cultivate.). Lydon couldn't sing, didn't look particularly like a pop star, but he was a genuine teenager from working class origins who was pretty fed up with a lot of things and now finally got a soapbox to voice his opinions. Fellow band members were brought together and the Sex Pistols were born.

Famously, the band performed to a crowd of approximately 42 people at the Manchester Free Trade Hall in Manchester England in June of 1976. As recounted in the film ''Film/TwentyFourHourPartyPeople,'' each person in the crowd either later formed a band (future members of Music/TheSmiths, Music/JoyDivision (and by extension Music/NewOrder), Music/TheFall, The Music/{{Buzzcocks}}, Music/{{Magazine}}, and Simply Red) or had a pivotal role in shaping that city's music scene (Factory Records (Creator/FactoryRecords founder Tony Wilson and NME journalist Paul Morley). This show alone was proof to the band's aforementioned reaching influence on punk, PostPunk, {{New Wave|Music}} and eventually [[AlternativeRock alternative]] and [[IndiePop indie rock music.]]
19th Jan '17 11:20:04 AM jakobitis
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* JerkassFacade: ''Possibly'' Johnny Rotten/Lydon. Certainly a pretty abrasive guy and with strong opinions he was not at all shy about sharing, but his career and other work post-''Pistols'' suggests he was at least in part playing up to the image in the public eye. Sid might also have started out this way before sadly becoming an ''actual'' [[Jerkass]].
19th Nov '16 5:00:44 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot:
** "God Save the Queen" was written when Queen Elizabeth II celebrated her 25th Jubilee, though the band has explicitly denied that they wrote it in response to the Jubilee, instead having written it as a "working-man's song" in frustration with a royal family that they viewed as out of touch. It was their bad luck that the single just happened to be released during the Jubilee, when pro-royal and general patriotic sentiment among the class they were trying to reach was at a high point.
---> '''Paul Cook:''' It wasn't written specifically for the Queen's Jubilee. We weren't aware of it at the time. It wasn't a contrived effort to go out and shock everyone.
** "Bodies" was inspired by Johnny Rotten's encounter with a [[LoonyFan crazed fan]] (not an exaggeration: she was institutionalised) from Birmingham named Pauline, who described to him in detail the abortions she'd had.


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* {{Rockumentary}}: ''The Filth and the Fury''.
17th Nov '16 10:03:19 AM Trueman001
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** On November 4 2016, in response to a call from an MP that the {{Creator/BBC}} should close each day's broadcasting with "God Save the Queen" (the traditional one), BBC 2's ''Newsnight'' invoked this trope, with a touch of BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor.
8th Sep '16 1:47:48 PM JamesAustin
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The '''Sex Pistols''' were an English {{punk rock}} band formed in UsefulNotes/{{London}} in [[TheSeventies 1975]]. Though [[ShortLivedBigImpact the band didn't last very long (1975-78), and produced only four singles and one studio album]], ''Music/NeverMindTheBollocksHeresTheSexPistols'', they were one of the most influential acts in the history of popular music, credited with initiating the punk movement in the United Kingdom, and inspired many later punk and {{alternative rock}} musicians. The first incarnation of the Sex Pistols included singer [[Music/JohnLydon Johnny Rotten]], lead guitarist Steve Jones, drummer Paul Cook and bass player [[Music/{{Faces}} Glen Matlock.]]

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The '''Sex Pistols''' Sex Pistols were an English {{punk rock}} band formed in UsefulNotes/{{London}} in [[TheSeventies 1975]]. Though [[ShortLivedBigImpact the band didn't last very long (1975-78), and produced only four singles and one studio album]], ''Music/NeverMindTheBollocksHeresTheSexPistols'', they were one of the most influential acts in the history of popular music, credited with initiating the punk movement in the United Kingdom, and inspired many later punk and {{alternative rock}} musicians. The first incarnation of the Sex Pistols included singer [[Music/JohnLydon Johnny Rotten]], lead guitarist Steve Jones, drummer Paul Cook and bass player [[Music/{{Faces}} Glen Matlock.]]
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