History Music / NickCave

24th Apr '16 1:05:58 AM aye_amber
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** One album of his, a recorded lecture titled "The Secret Life Of The Love Song", features him musing on how many alleged songs of love are actually songs of hate. He proceeds to illustrate a genuine lovesong he found among the dross of pop by playing Music/KylieMinogue's "Better The Devil You Know"; him, a piano, and a Stock-Aitken-Waterman pop ditty makes for a ''profoundly'' disturbing combination, since - for once - you pay attention to the lyrics.

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** One album of his, a recorded lecture titled titled: "The Secret Life Of The of the Love Song", Song," features him musing on how many alleged songs of love are actually songs of hate. He proceeds to illustrate a genuine lovesong love song he found among the dross of pop by playing Music/KylieMinogue's "Better The Devil You Know"; him, a piano, and a Stock-Aitken-Waterman pop ditty makes for a ''profoundly'' disturbing combination, since - for once - you pay attention to the lyrics.
1st Apr '16 8:10:20 PM aye_amber
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* GrievousBottleyHarm: Cave once punched a thrown pint glass, breaking it, and kept on playing without any sign of pain. Of course, that did happen at the Hacienda.


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* GrievousBottleyHarm: Cave once punched a thrown pint glass, breaking it, and kept on playing without any sign of pain. Of course, that did happen at the Hacienda.
31st Mar '16 11:31:26 AM aye_amber
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* BlackWidow: In "Henry Lee" the titular character runs afoul of a rather jealous one.



* BlackWidow: In "Henry Lee" the titular character runs afoul of a rather jealous one.
23rd Mar '16 9:35:03 PM aye_amber
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He is also the author of the novels ''And The Ass Saw The Angel'' and ''The Death Of Bunny Munro'', as well as the script for ''Film/TheProposition'', for which he and bandmate Warren Ellis (no, not ''that'' Creator/WarrenEllis) also composed the soundtrack. And he's occasionally acted, most notably in ''Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord'' (he appears as a musician, playing the folk song "UsefulNotes/JesseJames"), which he and Ellis again scored. The film version of ''Film/TheRoad'' was scored by him and Ellis, and directed by John Hillcoat, who also did ''Film/TheProposition''.

His songs range from gentle love songs, to angsty songs of pain, to full-on [[MurderBallad murder ballads]]; he wrote a whole album of the latter. He's also known for deeply held, though unconventional, religious views; his songs and novels are rife with Christian symbolism, though he denies in recent interviews that he believes in a personal or interventionist God (so...Deist, maybe? Post-theist?).

Compare Music/TomWaits, who has a somewhat similar style, and who is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Seeds#Volume_two confirmed]] to be an influence on Cave.

Albums with their own TV Tropes page:

* ''Music/LetLoveIn'' (1994)
* ''Music/MurderBallads'' (1996)

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He is also the author of the novels novels: ''And The the Ass Saw The the Angel'' and ''The Death Of of Bunny Munro'', Munro,'' as well as the script for ''Film/TheProposition'', ''Film/TheProposition,'' for which he and bandmate Warren Ellis (no, not ''that'' Creator/WarrenEllis) also composed the soundtrack. And he's occasionally acted, most notably in ''Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord'' (he appears as a musician, playing the folk song "UsefulNotes/JesseJames"), which he and Ellis again scored. The film version of ''Film/TheRoad'' was scored by him and Ellis, and directed by John Hillcoat, ''John Hillcoat,'' who also did ''Film/TheProposition''.

''The Proposition.''

His songs range from gentle love songs, to angsty songs of pain, to full-on [[MurderBallad murder ballads]]; he wrote a whole album of the latter. He's also known for deeply held, though unconventional, religious views; his songs and novels are rife with Christian symbolism, though he denies in recent interviews that he believes in a personal or interventionist God (so...(So... Deist, maybe? Post-theist?).

Compare Music/TomWaits, who has a somewhat similar style, and who is [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Seeds#Volume_two confirmed]] to be an influence on Cave.

Albums with their own TV Tropes page:

* ''Music/LetLoveIn'' (1994)
* ''Music/MurderBallads'' (1996)
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!!He provides examples of:

* AntiLoveSong: A number of songs by both The Birthday Party and the Bad Seeds, including "Where the Wild Roses Grow," "Do You Love Me?" parts 1 and 2 and "UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper." The love songs on ''The Boatman's Call'' are a bit too stark and minimalist to be considered "silly" love songs and would easily qualify.

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!!He
!! Albums with their own TV Tropes page:

* ''Music/LetLoveIn'' (1994)
* ''Music/MurderBallads'' (1996)
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!! He
provides examples of:

* AntiLoveSong: A number of songs by both The Birthday Party Music/TheBirthdayParty and the Bad Seeds, ''Bad Seeds,'' including "Where the Wild Roses Grow," "Do You Love Me?" parts 1 and 2 and "UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper." The love songs on ''The Boatman's Call'' are a bit too stark and minimalist to be considered "silly" love songs and would easily qualify.
18th Mar '16 2:18:59 PM aye_amber
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* VillainSong / TheVillainSucksSong: In "Up Jumped The Devil" the narrator literally states "He was doomed to play the villain's part" as he describes his fleeing to Mexico from justice and the devil himself. Cave also covered "Mack The Knife" for a Music/KurtWeill tribute album, which is a classic case of the latter trope. Then there' "Stagger Lee" which is probably one of the most brutal songs ever written.

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* VillainSong / TheVillainSucksSong: In "Up Jumped The Devil" the narrator literally states "He was doomed to play the villain's part" as he describes his fleeing to Mexico from justice and the devil himself. Cave also covered "Mack The the Knife" for a Music/KurtWeill tribute album, which is a classic case of the latter trope. Then there' "Stagger Lee" which is probably one of the most brutal songs ever written.
12th Mar '16 2:29:38 PM aye_amber
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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found "Nick Cave and the Cavemen," who fairly quickly re-named themselves to "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds." In recent years he's formed a third band, "Grinderman," [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforward rock music.]]

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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found "Nick ''Nick Cave and the Cavemen," Cavemen,'' who fairly quickly re-named themselves to "Nick ''Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds." '' In recent years he's formed a third band, "Grinderman," ''Grinderman,'' [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforward rock music.]]
29th Feb '16 11:01:52 AM aye_amber
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* BadassMustache / BadassBeard: With Grinderman came a mustache to the formerly clean-shaven Cave. Many of the members of Grinderman and a few of the Bad Seeds sport BadAss facial hair such as Warren Ellis' wild-man grizzly beard.

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* BadassMustache / BadassBeard: With Grinderman came a mustache to the formerly clean-shaven Cave. Many of the members of Grinderman and a few of the Bad Seeds sport BadAss {{Badass}} facial hair such as Warren Ellis' wild-man grizzly beard.
29th Feb '16 10:54:14 AM aye_amber
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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found "Nick Cave and the Cavemen," who fairly quickly re-named themselves to "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds." In recent years he's formed a third band, "Grinderman," [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforwards rock music.]]

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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found "Nick Cave and the Cavemen," who fairly quickly re-named themselves to "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds." In recent years he's formed a third band, "Grinderman," [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforwards straightforward rock music.]]
12th Jan '16 6:07:52 PM aye_amber
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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found "Nick Cave and the Cavemen," who fairly quickly re-named themselves to "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds." In recent years he's formed a third band, "Grinderman," [[AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforwards rock music.]]

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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found "Nick Cave and the Cavemen," who fairly quickly re-named themselves to "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds." In recent years he's formed a third band, "Grinderman," [[AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforwards rock music.]]
5th Jan '16 5:03:59 AM aye_amber
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* SillyLoveSongs: Unsurprisingly few as most songs about love by the Bad Seeds are actually AntiLoveSongs. "Love Letter" and "Babe, You Turn Me On" are a couple of the silly variety.

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* SillyLoveSongs: Unsurprisingly few as most songs about love by the Bad Seeds are actually AntiLoveSongs.Anti Love Songs. "Love Letter" and "Babe, You Turn Me On" are a couple of the silly variety.
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