History Music / MilliVanilli

10th Sep '17 4:27:34 PM AfroThunder
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* GoingColdTurkey: Rob & Fab were no strangers to drugs before the scandal, and it only got worse once it did. When the time came to record their self-titled album, Fab had managed to go cold turkey, but Rob would never recover, and [[DownerEnding eventually died from a drug overdose]].

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* GoingColdTurkey: Rob & Fab were no strangers to drugs before the scandal, scandal blew up, and it only got worse once it did. When the time came to record their self-titled album, Fab had managed to go cold turkey, but Rob would never recover, and [[DownerEnding eventually died from a drug overdose]].
10th Sep '17 12:12:12 AM gjjones
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!!Tropes associated with Milli Vanilli include:

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!!Tropes associated with Milli !!Milli Vanilli include:provides examples of:


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* DownerEnding: Rob Pilatus's death from a drug overdose at the age of 32.
5th Sep '17 9:48:54 PM AfroThunder
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* ThereAreNoGoodExecutives: Frank Farian and Clive Davis While he avoids outright saying negative about Davis, Fab [https://youtu.be/lqmO9VE0PuY?t=2021 mentioned in an interview]] that Davis was fully aware of the lip-syncing, but went along with it.

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* ThereAreNoGoodExecutives: Frank Farian and Clive Davis While he avoids outright saying negative about Davis, Fab [https://youtu.[[https://youtu.be/lqmO9VE0PuY?t=2021 mentioned in an interview]] that Davis was fully aware of the lip-syncing, but went along with it.
5th Sep '17 9:31:32 PM AfroThunder
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After three years of vocal lessons, Rob & Fab, under that name, released a self-titled album and even appeared on the Arsenio Hall Show to perform their lead single ACTUALLY live. [[DeaderThanDisco The public, however, was done with the whole thing]], and the album sold somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000 copies, going almost immediately out of print. In the late 90s, Rob, Farian and the original band reconciled in order to put out a comeback album in 1998, minus Fabrice Morvan, who wanted nothing more to do with Farian. Rob Pilatus, after having fallen on hard times, abusing drugs and even committing robberies, was found dead of an alcohol and prescription pill overdose on April 2, 1998. He was 32 years old.

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After three years of vocal lessons, Rob & Fab, under that name, released a self-titled album and even appeared on the Arsenio Hall Show to perform their lead single ACTUALLY live. [[DeaderThanDisco The public, however, was done with the whole thing]], and the album sold somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000 copies, going almost immediately out of print. In the late 90s, Rob, Farian and the original band reconciled in order to put out a comeback album in 1998, minus Fabrice Morvan, Fab, who wanted nothing more to do with Farian. Rob Pilatus, after having fallen on hard times, abusing drugs and even committing robberies, was found dead of an alcohol and prescription pill overdose on April 2, 1998. He was 32 years old.






* GoingColdTurkey: Rob & Fab were no strangers to drugs before the scandal, and it only got worse once it did. When the time came to record their self-titled album, Fab had managed to go cold turkey, but Rob would never recover, and [[DownerEnding eventually died from a drug overdose]].



* NewJackSwing: One of the genere's defining artists in the late 80s, before the scandal broke. Fun fact: ''Girl You Know It's True'' was on course for beating Bobby Brown's record for best-selling new jack swing album before everything imploded.

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* NewJackSwing: One of the genere's genre's defining artists in the late 80s, before the scandal broke. Fun fact: ''Girl You Know It's True'' was on course for beating Bobby Brown's record for best-selling new jack swing album before everything imploded.



* ThereAreNoGoodExecutives: Frank Farian and Clive Davis While he avoids outright saying negative about Davis, Fab [[https://youtu.be/lqmO9VE0PuY?t=1945 mentioned in an interview]] that Davis and MTV were fully aware of the lip-syncing, but went along with it.

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* ThereAreNoGoodExecutives: Frank Farian and Clive Davis While he avoids outright saying negative about Davis, Fab [[https://youtu.be/lqmO9VE0PuY?t=1945 [https://youtu.be/lqmO9VE0PuY?t=2021 mentioned in an interview]] that Davis and MTV were was fully aware of the lip-syncing, but went along with it.it.
--->'''Fab Morvan:''' If a ''pen'' dropped in the building, he ''knew''. [...] I don't know the details behind that, you see. That's one of the things that's been kept really, really, ''really'' secret. [...] But they had to disclose that to him.
5th Sep '17 9:05:32 PM AfroThunder
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Producer Frank Farian, formerly the songwriter behind Boney M, had been a producer for some time after, and sought to create a group that combined pop music with hip hop. The studio musicians he assembled were musically up to par, but the vocalists - Charles Shaw, John Davis, Brad Howell, and twin sisters Jodie and Linda Rocco - didn't seem to fit any sort of marketable image. In what was a common practice in Farian's time - Boney M was fronted by Bobby Farrell but the vocals were usually sung by Farian, Marcia Barrett and Liz Mitchell - Farian hired two models he found in a UsefulNotes/{{Munich}} dance club to serve as the frontmen for the band, tempting them with a large advance and then informing them that they were going to lip sync all the music in public. The pair, already signed, reluctantly agreed.

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Producer Frank Farian, formerly the songwriter behind Boney M, had been a producer for some time after, and sought to create a group that combined pop music with hip hop. The studio musicians he assembled were musically up to par, but the vocalists - Charles Shaw, John Davis, Brad Howell, and twin sisters Jodie and Linda Rocco - didn't seem to fit any sort of marketable image. In what was a common practice in Farian's time - Boney M was fronted by Bobby Farrell but the vocals were usually sung by Farian, Marcia Barrett and Liz Mitchell - Farian hired Fabrice "Fsb" Morvan and Rob Pilatus, two models and aspiring singers he found in a UsefulNotes/{{Munich}} dance club to serve as the frontmen for the band, tempting them with a large advance advance, and then informing them that they were going to lip sync all the music in public. The pair, already signed, signed and having no way to pay back the advance, reluctantly agreed.



After three years of vocal lessons, Rob & Fab, under that name, released a self-titled album and even appeared on the Arsenio Hall Show to perform their lead single ACTUALLY live. [[DeaderThanDisco The public, however, was done with the whole thing]], and the album sold somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000 copies, going almost immediately out of print. Unconfirmed rumors claim that Rob, Fab, Farian and the original band reconciled in order to put out a comeback album entitled ''Back And In Attack'' in 1998. If it was ever real at all, it was never released; Rob Pilatus, after having fallen on hard times, abusing drugs and even committing robberies, was found dead of an alcohol and prescription pill overdose on April 2, 1998. He was 32 years old.

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After three years of vocal lessons, Rob & Fab, under that name, released a self-titled album and even appeared on the Arsenio Hall Show to perform their lead single ACTUALLY live. [[DeaderThanDisco The public, however, was done with the whole thing]], and the album sold somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000 copies, going almost immediately out of print. Unconfirmed rumors claim that In the late 90s, Rob, Fab, Farian and the original band reconciled in order to put out a comeback album entitled ''Back And In Attack'' in 1998. If it was ever real at all, it was never released; 1998, minus Fabrice Morvan, who wanted nothing more to do with Farian. Rob Pilatus, after having fallen on hard times, abusing drugs and even committing robberies, was found dead of an alcohol and prescription pill overdose on April 2, 1998. He was 32 years old.



** This was also the case with the aborted comeback album. Rob, who had fallen the hardest out of the two, willingly agreed to join Farian again, while Fab wanted nothing to do with the man who had ruined his career.



* CoverVersion: Of Music/DeepPurple's "Hush" of all songs. They also covered the Isley Brothers' "It's Your Thing" and Boney M's "Ma Baker."

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* CoverVersion: Of Music/DeepPurple's "Hush" of all songs. They also covered the Isley Brothers' "It's Your Thing" and Boney M's "Ma Baker."" Before signing with Farian, they were locally known in Germany for doing Music/MichaelJackson covers.


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* ThereAreNoGoodExecutives: Frank Farian and Clive Davis While he avoids outright saying negative about Davis, Fab [[https://youtu.be/lqmO9VE0PuY?t=1945 mentioned in an interview]] that Davis and MTV were fully aware of the lip-syncing, but went along with it.
2nd Sep '17 11:12:26 AM gjjones
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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: The duo ended up fleeing the stage after they were caught lip-syncing to "Girl You Know It's True" while in Bristol, Connecticut.
30th Jul '17 11:07:20 AM mlsmithca
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* YourNormalIsOurTaboo: An oft-forgotten part of this whole mess was that having frontmen who simply acted as the FaceOfTheBand but contributed nothing more than their looks was quite common in Europe. Not crediting the ''actual band'', however, was quite something else. Namely, it wasn't an issue until the American repackaging of their first album outright lied and named Rob and Fab as the only 2 singers.

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* YourNormalIsOurTaboo: An oft-forgotten part of this whole mess was that having frontmen who simply acted as the FaceOfTheBand but contributed nothing more than their looks was quite common in Europe. Not crediting the ''actual band'', however, was quite something else. Namely, it wasn't an issue until the American repackaging of their first album outright lied and named Rob and Fab as the only 2 two singers.
30th Jul '17 11:06:48 AM mlsmithca
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In late 1989, the image showed the first sign of crumbling when Rob & Fab were caught lip synching at a performance in Bristol, Connecticut. A performance of "Girl You Know It's True" stumbled when the recording skipped ([[RepetitiveAudioGlitch "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's-"]]) This was made worse by the fact that the whole thing was caught by Creator/{{MTV}} cameras. This didn't seem to divert their success, as in February of 1990, they won a Grammy for Best New Artist.

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In late 1989, the image showed the first sign of crumbling when Rob & Fab were caught lip synching at a performance in Bristol, Connecticut. A performance of "Girl You Know It's True" stumbled when the recording skipped ([[RepetitiveAudioGlitch "Girl you know it's- "Girl Girl you know it's- "Girl Girl you know it's- "Girl Girl you know it's- "Girl Girl you know it's-"]]) it's-"]]). This was made worse by the fact that the whole thing was caught by Creator/{{MTV}} cameras. This didn't seem to divert their success, as in February of 1990, they won a Grammy for Best New Artist.






* BrokeTheRatingScale: [[WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead Beavis and Butt-Head]] once flipped to one of Milli Vanilli's videos, to which they had the rare response of staring in horror, unable to make any of their trademark wisecracks, and then changed the channel.

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* BrokeTheRatingScale: [[WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead Beavis and Butt-Head]] WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead once flipped to one of Milli Vanilli's videos, to which they had the rare response of staring in horror, unable to make any of their trademark wisecracks, and then changed the channel.



* BrokenRecord: ''"Girl you know it's- Girl you know it's- Girl you know it's-"''

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* BrokenRecord: ''"Girl "Girl you know it's- Girl you know it's- Girl you know it's-"''it's-"



* CoverVersion: Of Music/DeepPurple's "Hush" of all songs.
** They also covered the Isley Brothers' "It's Your Thing" and Boney M's "Ma Baker."

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* CoverVersion: Of Music/DeepPurple's "Hush" of all songs.
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songs. They also covered the Isley Brothers' "It's Your Thing" and Boney M's "Ma Baker."



* WeDontSuckAnymore[=/=]WinBackTheCrowd: Attempted with their [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew38sjEH91c appearance]] on ''Series/TheArsenioHallShow'', when they sang the new song "We Can Get It On" by themselves. They did indeed sing it... but their nervous, unpolished vocals (with a little VocalRangeExceeded on Fab's part) impressed nobody, and the subsequent album failed miserably.

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* WeDontSuckAnymore[=/=]WinBackTheCrowd: WeDontSuckAnymore: Attempted with their [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew38sjEH91c appearance]] on ''Series/TheArsenioHallShow'', when they sang the new song "We Can Get It On" by themselves. They did indeed sing it... but their nervous, unpolished vocals (with a little VocalRangeExceeded on Fab's part) impressed nobody, and the subsequent album failed miserably.
13th May '17 3:25:06 PM nombretomado
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In late 1989, the image showed the first sign of crumbling when Rob & Fab were caught lip synching at a performance in Bristol, Connecticut. A performance of "Girl You Know It's True" stumbled when the recording skipped ([[RepetitiveAudioGlitch "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's-"]]) This was made worse by the fact that the whole thing was caught by {{MTV}} cameras. This didn't seem to divert their success, as in February of 1990, they won a Grammy for Best New Artist.

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In late 1989, the image showed the first sign of crumbling when Rob & Fab were caught lip synching at a performance in Bristol, Connecticut. A performance of "Girl You Know It's True" stumbled when the recording skipped ([[RepetitiveAudioGlitch "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's- "Girl you know it's-"]]) This was made worse by the fact that the whole thing was caught by {{MTV}} Creator/{{MTV}} cameras. This didn't seem to divert their success, as in February of 1990, they won a Grammy for Best New Artist.
10th May '17 6:39:02 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: For pretty much everyone involved.



* OurNormalIsYourTaboo: An oft-forgotten part of this whole mess was that having frontmen who simply acted as the FaceOfTheBand but contributed nothing more than their looks was quite common in Europe. Not crediting the ''actual band'', however, was quite something else. Namely, it wasn't an issue until the American repackaging of their first album outright lied and named Rob and Fab as the only 2 singers.

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* OurNormalIsYourTaboo: YourNormalIsOurTaboo: An oft-forgotten part of this whole mess was that having frontmen who simply acted as the FaceOfTheBand but contributed nothing more than their looks was quite common in Europe. Not crediting the ''actual band'', however, was quite something else. Namely, it wasn't an issue until the American repackaging of their first album outright lied and named Rob and Fab as the only 2 singers.
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