History Music / Megadeth

23rd Jul '16 10:01:55 AM Willbyr
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Troubles started in 1995 after Megadeth changed their management, hiring Creator/BudPrager. His influence would ultimately prove counterproductive, as he steered the band towards more blatantly commercial tracks, convinced them to work with Nashville pop producer Creator/DannHuff, and [[ExecutiveMeddling closely supervised the writing process, also contributing musical ideas and lyrics to the songs]]. ''Cryptic Writings'' was released in 1997, to a mixed critical reception and less sales than ''Youthanasia'', despite four Mainstream Rock hits. Mustaine then made the critical mistake of giving ''more'' influence to Prager and Huff, which resulted in''Risk'', which was disliked the majority of the fanbase. Largely eschewing metal in favour of newfound dance and electronic influences, it was a failure that triggered a backlash among fans and critics.

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Troubles started in 1995 after Megadeth changed their management, hiring Creator/BudPrager. His influence would ultimately prove counterproductive, as he steered the band towards more blatantly commercial tracks, convinced them to work with Nashville pop producer Creator/DannHuff, and [[ExecutiveMeddling closely supervised the writing process, also contributing musical ideas and lyrics to the songs]]. ''Cryptic Writings'' was released in 1997, to a mixed critical reception and less sales than ''Youthanasia'', despite four Mainstream Rock hits. Mustaine then made the critical mistake of giving ''more'' influence to Prager and Huff, which resulted in''Risk'', which was disliked the majority of the fanbase.in ''Risk''. Largely eschewing metal in favour of newfound dance and electronic influences, it was a failure that triggered a backlash among fans and critics.



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23rd Jul '16 9:59:14 AM Willbyr
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[-[[caption-width-right:350: [[RevolvingDoorBand The ''Dystopia'' lineup of the band]]. From left to right: drummer [[Music/LambOfGod Chris Adler]], guitarist [[Music/{{Angra}} Kiko Loureiro]], guitarist [[TheLeader Dave Mustaine]], and bassist [[TheLancer David Ellefson]].]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350: [[RevolvingDoorBand The ''Dystopia'' lineup Megadeth's lineup]] as of the band]]. From left to right: ''Dystopia''. L - R: drummer [[Music/LambOfGod Chris Adler]], guitarist [[Music/{{Angra}} Kiko Loureiro]], guitarist [[TheLeader Dave Mustaine]], and bassist [[TheLancer David Ellefson]].]]-]
22nd Jul '16 3:44:25 PM Jaredwarrensince1991
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[-[[caption-width-right:350: [[RevolvingDoorBand The Dystopia lineup of the band]]. From left to right: drummer [[Music/LambOfGod Chris Adler]], guitarist [[Music/{{Angra}} Kiko Loureiro]], guitarist [[TheLeader Dave Mustaine]], and bassist [[TheLancer David Ellefson]].]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350: [[RevolvingDoorBand The Dystopia ''Dystopia'' lineup of the band]]. From left to right: drummer [[Music/LambOfGod Chris Adler]], guitarist [[Music/{{Angra}} Kiko Loureiro]], guitarist [[TheLeader Dave Mustaine]], and bassist [[TheLancer David Ellefson]].]]-]
22nd Jul '16 3:43:50 PM Jaredwarrensince1991
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[-[[caption-width-right:350:Current lineup of the band. From left to right: drummer [[Music/LambOfGod Chris Adler]], guitarist [[Music/{{Angra}} Kiko Loureiro]], guitarist [[TheLeader Dave Mustaine]], and bassist [[TheLancer David Ellefson]].]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350:Current [-[[caption-width-right:350: [[RevolvingDoorBand The Dystopia lineup of the band.band]]. From left to right: drummer [[Music/LambOfGod Chris Adler]], guitarist [[Music/{{Angra}} Kiko Loureiro]], guitarist [[TheLeader Dave Mustaine]], and bassist [[TheLancer David Ellefson]].]]-]
16th Jul '16 10:53:05 AM Edgecrusher666
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* Four-TemperamentEnsemble:

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* Four-TemperamentEnsemble:FourTemperamentEnsemble:
16th Jul '16 10:52:41 AM Edgecrusher666
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* Dirk Verbeuren - touring drummer (2016-present)

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* Dirk Verbeuren - touring drummer (2016-present)



** He's friends with Slayer and Metallica now. The Metallica feud dying out on its own as the two parties became less and less bitter. [[WordOfGod Apparently]], Dave and James Hetfield are on friendly terms again and exchange Christmas cards and there is a rumor continuing to float around that Dave wants Metallica to play Gigantour. As of 2010, both bands have shared the stage several times without a problem.
** Mustaine's feud with Ellefson was over Ellefson suing him in 2002 over allegedly unpaid royalties and not turning Megadeth over to him. This feud ending is obvious with the suit and Mustaine's countersuit being resolved out of court and Ellefson being back in the band.

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** He's He is friends with Slayer and Metallica now. The Metallica feud dying out on its own as the two parties became less and less bitter. [[WordOfGod Apparently]], Dave and James Hetfield are on friendly terms again and exchange Christmas cards and there is a rumor continuing to float around that Dave wants Metallica to play Gigantour. As of 2010, both bands have shared the stage several times without a problem.
** Mustaine's feud with Ellefson was over Ellefson the bassist suing him in 2002 over allegedly unpaid royalties and not turning Megadeth over to him. This feud ending is obvious with the suit and Mustaine's countersuit being resolved out of court and Ellefson being back in the band.



* ContemptibleCover: The original ''Killing Is My Business...'' cover, as the label lost Dave's sketch and recreated with whatever props they could find (both Mustaine and Ellefson expressed contempt, describing it as "a plastic skull covered in ketchup"). It was solved with the 2001 re-release, whose art is closer to Dave's idea.

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* ContemptibleCover: The original ''Killing Is My Business...'' cover, as the label lost Dave's Mustaine's sketch and recreated with whatever props they could find (both Mustaine and Ellefson expressed contempt, describing it as "a plastic skull covered in ketchup"). It was solved with the 2001 re-release, whose art is closer to Dave's Mustaine's idea.



* GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion: The 2004 rereleases of all their prior work count as this, as they went beyond simply remastering and remixing the music and actually re-recorded some portions. (This was because some of the original multitrack master tapes were said to be lost, necessitating Mustaine to re-record some guitar and vocal teacks) While they didn't change the songs much, the new versions feature an older Dave. True to the spirit of this trope, the release of the new versions put the originals out of print.

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* Four-TemperamentEnsemble:
** Mustaine: choleric
** Ellefson: melancholic
** Kiko: phlegmatic
** Dirk: sanguine
* GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion: The 2004 rereleases re-releases of all their prior work count as this, as they went beyond simply remastering and remixing the music and actually re-recorded some portions. (This was because some of the original multitrack master tapes were said to be lost, necessitating Mustaine to re-record some guitar and vocal teacks) While they didn't change the songs much, the new versions feature an older Dave. True to the spirit of this trope, the release of the new versions put the originals out of print.
5th Jul '16 8:19:36 PM igordebraga
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After some time off in rehab for Megadeth and another line-up change, Megadeth returned with ''Rust in Peace'' in 1990, a progressive effort which contained the famous songs "Holy Wars... The Punishment Due" and "Hangar 18." They remained silent for two years, after which they pulled a FollowTheLeader and released ''Countdown to Extinction'', an album full of slower, less thrashy, straightforward {{heavy metal}} songs modeled after ''Metallica''. It was their greatest commercial success, reaching #2 on the US charts and selling in excess of 2 million copies, propelled by the singles "Symphony of Destruction," "Foreclosure of a Dream," and "Sweating Bullets." The simplification continued on 1994's ''Youthanasia'', attracting [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some condemnation from older fans]] but overall being received just as well as its predecessor, going to #4 on the charts and spawning the hits "Train of Consequences" and "A Tout le Monde," with Creator/{{MTV}} banning the latter's video for supposedly being "pro-suicide."

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After some time off in rehab for Megadeth the band and another line-up change, Megadeth returned with ''Rust in Peace'' in 1990, a progressive effort which contained the famous songs "Holy Wars... The Punishment Due" and "Hangar 18." They remained silent for two years, after which they pulled a FollowTheLeader and released ''Countdown to Extinction'', an album full of slower, less thrashy, straightforward {{heavy metal}} songs modeled after ''Metallica''. It was their greatest commercial success, reaching #2 on the US charts and selling in excess of 2 million copies, propelled by the singles "Symphony of Destruction," "Foreclosure of a Dream," and "Sweating Bullets." The simplification continued on 1994's ''Youthanasia'', attracting [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some condemnation from older fans]] but overall being received just as well as its predecessor, going to #4 on the charts and spawning the hits "Train of Consequences" and "A Tout le Monde," with Creator/{{MTV}} banning the latter's video for supposedly being "pro-suicide."



* James MacDonough - bass (2004-2006)

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* James MacDonough [=MacDonough=] - bass (2004-2006)



* BusCrash: Nick Menza. His final years with the band were marred by injury, an invitation to rejoin in 2004 would fall out as the group felt he was not in top shape, and some time after negotiations to bring him back for ''Dystopia'' didn't work, Menza died of [[FatalMethodActing a heart attack on stage]] in 2016.



* ConspiracyTheorist: Dave, as early as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Mustaine#Politics his 1988 interview ranting about building a wall across the border to keep "fucking Mexicans" out of the USA]] and his [[http://megadeth.rockmetal.art.pl/lyrics_countdown.html#Psychotron incoherent explanation for "Psychotron"]] (he claimed it was something related to [[UsefulNotes/{{Russia}} Russian]] experiments, something called a "Lida machine" and UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter; the linked fansite shot back that: "Dave has been watching too many episodes of ''Series/TheXFiles''."), and a bit more pronounced lately with his ranting about the United Nations on ''United Abominations'' (to the point that a UN worker made a post calling bullshit on the lyrics' accusations,) naming ''Endgame'' after an Radio/AlexJones movie, being [[http://tinyurl.com/crvlkn4 a birther]], and so on.

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* ConspiracyTheorist: Dave, as early as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Mustaine#Politics his 1988 interview ranting about building a wall across the border to keep "fucking Mexicans" out of the USA]] and his [[http://megadeth.rockmetal.art.pl/lyrics_countdown.html#Psychotron incoherent explanation for "Psychotron"]] (he claimed it was something related to [[UsefulNotes/{{Russia}} Russian]] UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n experiments, something called a "Lida machine" and UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter; the linked fansite shot back that: "Dave has been watching too many episodes of ''Series/TheXFiles''."), and a bit more pronounced lately with his ranting about the United Nations on ''United Abominations'' (to the point that a UN worker made a post calling bullshit on the lyrics' accusations,) naming ''Endgame'' after an Radio/AlexJones movie, being [[http://tinyurl.com/crvlkn4 a birther]], and so on.



** The symbols at the bottom of ''[=Th1rth3en=]'' reference the previous 12 covers ([[https://i.embed.ly/1/display?key=fc778e44915911e088ae4040f9f86dcd&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi265.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fii204%2FMetalSara%2Fmegadeth_disk2_1.jpg a booklet picture]] even sets them in chronological order).



** There is a borderline example in the very first album, as "Skull Beneath The Skin" describes Vic Rattlehead (whose skull adorns the album cover).



** [[Music/NancySinatra "These Boots"]] (''Killing is My Business...'')

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** [[Music/NancySinatra "These Boots"]] (''Killing is My Business...'')'' - though they also rewrote part of the lyrics)



* FunetikAksent (or Heavy Metal Spelling): Mega''deth'', as opposed to "megadeath" which Dave got the idea from.

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* FunetikAksent (or Heavy Metal Spelling): Mega''deth'', as opposed to "megadeath" which Dave got the idea from.FilkSong: The second part of "Holy Wars... The Punishment Due" is about Comicbook/ThePunisher, from Frank Castle's point of view.



* HarshVocals: Dave often resorts to growling.



* MohsScaleOfLyricalHardness: Hardly gets below a 6, as Dave is extremely cynical, and can punctuate with things such as the violent descriptions of "Black Friday".



* MyspeldRokband \ FunetikAksent: Mega''deth'', as opposed to "megadeath", a term coined in 1953 by RAND military strategist Herman Kahn to describe one million deaths in the event of thermonuclear war (which Dave considered AGoodNameForARockBand after reading it in a flyer).



* OpeningChorus: You'll know that TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is coming when you hear the Angel's Choir at the beginning of "Symphony of Destruction"...

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* OpeningChorus: OminousLatinChanting: You'll know that TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is coming when you hear [[OpeningChorus the Angel's Choir at the beginning of of]] "Symphony of Destruction"...



* {{Portmanteau}}: ''Youthanasia'' (Youth+euthanasia, referencing how Dave felt society is filled with "young people turning to drugs, gangs, crime, violence, teenage pregnancy and ultimately suicide whether itís quickly or whether it takes a long period of time").
* PunctuatedForEmphasis: A few {{Title Drop}}s combine this with BigWordShout (e.g. "Peace... sells... ''but who's buying''?", "SWEATING '''BULLETS!'''")



** The band's cover of the ''Duke Nukem'' theme features samples of catchphrases from ''Duke Nukem.''

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** The band's cover of the ''Duke Nukem'' theme features samples of Duke's catchphrases from ''Duke Nukem.''''Videogame/DukeNukem3D''



* SequelSong: Return to Hangar, to Hanger 18.

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** A Vic Rattlehead ChestBurster breaks out of Dave's guts in the cover of ''The World Needs A Hero'' (after all, how else to [[HesBack re-welcome the mascot]] after 11 years and 4 albums without him on the cover?).
* SequelSong: Return "Return to Hangar, Hangar", to Hanger 18."Hangar 18".



* TheVamp: "She-Wolf" is all about one.



* TheArtifact: Mustaine says in the liner notes to the 2004 remix/remaster of "Risk" that he knew it was the beginning of the end for the band. Only a few months after those liner notes were written, the band reformed and released their comeback album "The System Has Failed". and are still going strong to this day. The 2004 remaster of ''Risk'' is still the in-print version of it, and the liner notes haven't been changed, so it can confuse people who don't know Mustaine really thought the band were finished when he wrote those liner notes.

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* TheArtifact: Mustaine says in the liner notes to the 2004 remix/remaster of "Risk" ''Risk'' that he knew it was the beginning of the end for the band. Only a few months after those liner notes were written, the band reformed and released their comeback album "The ''The System Has Failed". Failed'' and are still going strong to this day. The 2004 remaster of ''Risk'' is still the in-print version of it, and the liner notes haven't been changed, so it can confuse people who don't know Mustaine really thought the band were finished when he wrote those liner notes.notes.
* ContemptibleCover: The original ''Killing Is My Business...'' cover, as the label lost Dave's sketch and recreated with whatever props they could find (both Mustaine and Ellefson expressed contempt, describing it as "a plastic skull covered in ketchup"). It was solved with the 2001 re-release, whose art is closer to Dave's idea.



* MyspeldRokband: "Megadeath" was a term coined in 1953 by RAND military strategist Herman Kahn to describe one million deaths in the event of thermonuclear war.



* {{Mascot}}: The [[DemBones skeletal]] Vic Rattlehead. He's a VisualPun for "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil", although in "Skull Beneath the Skin", the song that apparently describes his creation, he's the victim of a black magic ritual:

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* {{Mascot}}: MetalBandMascot: The [[DemBones skeletal]] Vic Rattlehead. He's a VisualPun for "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil", although in "Skull Beneath the Skin", the song that apparently describes his creation, he's the victim of a black magic ritual:


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** NinjaPirateZombieRobot: He's been depicted as various things, from [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/Megadeth_-_Holy_Wars.jpg a general]] to a {{Cyborg}} [[http://static.musictoday.com/store/bands/1845/product_large/MDT66241.jpg assassin]].
3rd Jul '16 6:57:18 AM Edgecrusher666
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!!Members (Founding members in '''bold''', current members in ''italic''):

* ''Chris Adler'' - drums (2015-Present)

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!!Members (Founding members in '''bold''', current members in ''italic''):


!!Members:
* ''Chris Adler'' Dave Mustaine - guitar, vocals (1983-present)
* Dave Ellefson - bass, backing vocals, (1984-2002, 2010-present)
* Kiko Loureiro - guitar (2015-present)
* Dirk Verbeuren - touring drummer (2016-present)

!!Former Members:

* Lawrence Kane - lead vocals (1983)
* Robert Cromwell - guitar (1983)
* Matt Kisselstein - bass (1983)
* Greg Handevidt - guitar (1983)
* Dijon Caruthers
- drums (2015-Present)(1983)
* Lee Rausch - drums (1984)
* Kerry King - guitar (1984)
* Gar Samuelson - drums, backing vocals (1984-1988)
* Chris Poland - guitar, backing vocals (1985-1988, 1989)
* Mike Albert - touring guitar (1985)



* Chris Broderick - guitar, backing vocals (2008-2014)
* Vinnie Colaiuta - drums (2004)

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* Chris Broderick Jeff Young - guitar, backing vocals (2008-2014)
(1987-1989)
* Vinnie Colaiuta Nick Menza - drums (2004)drums, backing vocals (1989-1998)
* Marty Friedman - guitar, backing vocals (1989-2000)



* Al Pitrelli - guitar, backing vocals (2000-2002)



* Chris Adler - drums (2015-2016)



* '''''David Ellefson''''' - bass, backing vocals, (1984-2002, 2010-Present)
* Marty Friedman - guitar, backing vocals (1989-2000)
* James [=LoMenzo=] - bass guitar, backing vocals (2006-2010)
* ''Kiko Loureiro'' - guitar (2015-Present)
* Nick Menza - drums, backing vocals (1989-1998)
* '''''Dave Mustaine''''' - guitar, vocals (1983-Present)
* Al Pitrelli - guitar, backing vocals (2000-2002)
* Chris Poland - guitar, backing vocals (1985-1988, 1989)
* Gar Samuelson - drums, backing vocals (1984-1988)
* Jimmy Sloas - bass (2004)
* Jeff Young - guitar, backing vocals (1987-1989)

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* '''''David Ellefson''''' James MacDonough - bass, backing vocals, (1984-2002, 2010-Present)
* Marty Friedman - guitar, backing vocals (1989-2000)
bass (2004-2006)
* James [=LoMenzo=] - bass guitar, bass, backing vocals (2006-2010)
* ''Kiko Loureiro'' - guitar (2015-Present)
* Nick Menza - drums, backing vocals (1989-1998)
* '''''Dave Mustaine''''' - guitar, vocals (1983-Present)
* Al Pitrelli
Chris Broderick - guitar, backing vocals (2000-2002)
* Chris Poland - guitar, backing vocals (1985-1988, 1989)
* Gar Samuelson - drums, backing vocals (1984-1988)
* Jimmy Sloas - bass (2004)
* Jeff Young - guitar, backing vocals (1987-1989)
(2008-2014)



* IAmTheBand: Until ''The World Needs a Hero''. Dave Mustaine later took offense to [[Music/{{Aerosmith}} Steven Tyler]] saying that Dave was Megadeth, and several band members have been given more influence in song writing and line-up decisions. Pretty much every line-up change since 2004 has come from recommendation from everyone else in the band, including David Ellefson's return.
* JerkAss / JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Dave. He's been worse than he is now but he has made friends with Slayer and Metallica again. Judging by the circumstances surrounding Menza's last attempt to rejoin (very, very clear shot at it until Mustaine offered him an atrocious deal and severed all contact with him when he attempted to negotiate a better one), however, it's looking more and more like Mustaine is just a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk.
* ManlyTears: Dave did this after playing "I'll Be There" on ''That One Night: Live In Buenos Aires''. The bootleg of that show also has more moments like this.
* NeverMyFault: Dave loves to attack Metallica for his being kicked out. Mentions of his serious drug and alcohol problems or his violent behavior should not be expected from him.
* RealMenLoveJesus: Dave Mustaine and Dave Ellefson are now Christians.

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* IAmTheBand: Until ''The World Needs a Hero''. Dave Mustaine later took offense to [[Music/{{Aerosmith}} Steven Tyler]] saying that Dave Mustaine was Megadeth, and several band members have been given more influence in song writing and line-up decisions. Pretty much every line-up change since 2004 has come from recommendation from everyone else in the band, including David Dave Ellefson's return.
* JerkAss / JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Dave. He's Mustaine. He has been worse than he is now but he has made friends with Slayer and Metallica again. Judging by the circumstances surrounding Menza's last attempt to rejoin (very, very clear shot at it until Mustaine offered him an atrocious deal and severed all contact with him when he attempted to negotiate a better one), however, it's looking more and more like Mustaine is just a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk.
* ManlyTears: Dave Mustaine did this after playing "I'll Be There" on ''That One Night: Live In Buenos Aires''. The bootleg of that show also has more moments like this.
* NeverMyFault: Dave Mustaine loves to attack Metallica for his being kicked out. Mentions of his serious drug and alcohol problems or his violent behavior should not be expected from him.
* RealMenLoveJesus: Dave Mustaine and Dave Ellefson are now Christians.



* WelcomeBackTraitor: Chris Poland (twice, actually,) Nick Menza and David Ellefson. In that order. Subverted with the two former; Menza just didn't mesh with the reincarnation of Megadeth, and Chris Poland chose to be only a session musician for the ''Rust in Peace'' demos and later ''The System Has Failed''. Menza did, however, attempt to rejoin again in 2014, going so far as to record drums for several preproduction tracks. For a while, it seemed very likely that he would rejoin; the unseen drummer that Dave Mustaine's son posted a video of was indeed Menza. Then Dave offered him what was apparently an absolutely awful deal and cut off all contact with him when he attempted to negotiate a better one.

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* WelcomeBackTraitor: Chris Poland (twice, actually,) Nick Menza and David Dave Ellefson. In that order. Subverted with the two former; Menza Nick just didn't did not mesh with the reincarnation of Megadeth, and Chris Poland chose to be only a session musician for the ''Rust in Peace'' demos and later ''The System Has Failed''. Menza Nick did, however, attempt to rejoin again in 2014, going so far as to record drums for several preproduction pre-production tracks. For a while, it seemed very likely that he would rejoin; the unseen drummer that Dave Mustaine's son posted a video of was indeed Menza. Nick. Then Dave Mustaine offered him what was apparently an absolutely awful deal and cut off all contact with him when he attempted to negotiate a better one.



* ConspiracyTheorist: Some of Dave's lyrics deal with conspiracy; such as "New World Order", "Washington is Next!" and "Endgame." He was also a friendly guest on the Alex Jones Show.

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* ConspiracyTheorist: Some of Dave's Mustaine's lyrics deal with conspiracy; such as "New World Order", "Washington is Next!" and "Endgame." He was also a friendly guest on the Alex Jones Show.



* DrugsAreBad: "Burnt Ice", from ''United Abominations'' is about drug addiction, most likely meth. "Poison Was the Cure"[[note]]about using methadone to beat heroin addiction[[/note]], "Addicted to Chaos", "Use the Man"[[note]]about the degradation drugs can cause[[/note]], and "Kingmaker" are other examples.

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* DrugsAreBad: "Burnt Ice", Ice," from ''United Abominations'' is about drug addiction, most likely meth. "Poison Was the Cure"[[note]]about using methadone to beat heroin addiction[[/note]], "Addicted to Chaos", "Use the Man"[[note]]about the degradation drugs can cause[[/note]], and "Kingmaker" are other examples.
30th Jun '16 6:37:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* RedHeadedBully: Mustaine noted in Megadeth's VH1 ''Behind the Music'' that he was one of these as a kid. It was a way of taking out his frustration after his father left the family. Mustaine still had a reputation for this by the time he was in Metallica; he used to pick on Ron [=McGovney=] and punched James Hetfield at least once. Mustaine became a nicer person after expressing much of his anger through his music, but still is known to be difficult to work with sometimes.
22nd May '16 7:03:07 PM CassandraLeo
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* UncommonTime: All over the place in some of the band's material. "Five Magics" goes through about five time signature changes in slightly over as many minutes, including segments in 7/4 and 5/4. ''Rust in Peace'' in general has a lot of this.
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