History Music / Kiss

19th Oct '17 8:21:04 PM Willbyr
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** Eric Carr did not record anything for ''Revenge'', outside of "Carr Jam 1981". {{Justfied|Trope}} however, since he was suffering from a rare form of cancer that killed him before the album was finished.

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** Eric Carr did not record anything for ''Revenge'', outside of "Carr Jam 1981". {{Justfied|Trope}} {{Justified|Trope}} however, since he was suffering from a rare form of cancer that killed him before the album was finished.
19th Oct '17 8:20:42 PM Willbyr
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** Eric Carr did not record anything for "Revenge", outside of Carr Jam 1981. [[JustfiedTrope Justified]] however, since he was suffering from a rare form of cancer that killed him before the album was finished.

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** Eric Carr did not record anything for "Revenge", ''Revenge'', outside of Carr "Carr Jam 1981. [[JustfiedTrope Justified]] 1981". {{Justfied|Trope}} however, since he was suffering from a rare form of cancer that killed him before the album was finished.
19th Oct '17 8:19:17 PM Willbyr
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!!! "SO LET'S ROCK N ROLL ALL NITE, AND TROPE EVERY DAY!":

* [[AbsenteeActor Absentee Musician]]: Ace Frehley, during much of ''Music From The Elder'' and the entirety of ''Creatures Of The Night'', leading to his replacement by Vinnie Vincent. Also Peter Criss during much of ''Dynasty'' and the entirety of ''Unmasked'', leading to his replacement by Eric Carr. And finally, both Frehley and Criss were absent for most of Psycho Circus, with Frehley playing guitar only on two songs (three if you include bonus track) and Criss playing drums on only one song.

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!!! "SO !!"SO LET'S ROCK N ROLL ALL NITE, AND TROPE EVERY DAY!":

* [[AbsenteeActor Absentee Musician]]: Ace Frehley, during much of ''Music From The Elder'' and the entirety of ''Creatures Of The Night'', leading to his replacement by Vinnie Vincent. Also Peter Criss during much of ''Dynasty'' and the entirety of ''Unmasked'', leading to his replacement by Eric Carr. And finally, both Frehley and Criss were absent for most of Psycho Circus, ''Psycho Circus'', with Frehley playing guitar only on two songs (three if you include bonus track) and Criss playing drums on only one song.



--> '''Tom Snyder''': ''(to Ace)'' But you're kind of like a spaceman, huh?
--> '''Ace''': No, actually I'm a plumber. ''(laughs)''

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--> '''Tom Snyder''': ''(to Ace)'' But you're kind of like a spaceman, huh?
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huh?\\
'''Ace''': No, actually I'm a plumber. ''(laughs)''
17th Oct '17 8:31:19 AM gappvembe
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* Anton Fig - drums (1980)
9th Oct '17 9:03:16 AM AndyLA
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** Gene, who is TheTeetotaler, is an inversion.

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** Gene, who is TheTeetotaler, is an inversion.aversion.



-->"Fuck Gene Simmons you make me sick\\
''Psycho Circus'', you stole my shit!"

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-->"Fuck Gene Simmons Simmons, you make me sick\\
sick\\
''Psycho Circus'', you stole my shit!"



** Ace has said that, as a kid growing up in New York, the best moment of his career was playing Madison Square Garden.

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** Ace has said that, as a kid growing up in New York, the best moment of his career was playing at the Madison Square Garden.



* FaceOnTheCover: Their self-titled debut album, ''Dynasty'', ''Creatures Of The Night'', and ''Asylum'' are notable examples of this. ''Rock And Roll Over'' combines this with DesignStudentsOrgasm.

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* FaceOnTheCover: Their self-titled debut album, album (notably, Peter's makeup was different from the usual one), ''Dynasty'', ''Creatures Of The Night'', and ''Asylum'' are notable examples of this. ''Rock And Roll Over'' combines this with DesignStudentsOrgasm.



* FunWithAcronyms: Subverted. KISS is often spelled in all-caps, and has been rumoured to be an acronym, with meanings such as "Knights In Satan's Service" or "Kids In your Sister's Skirt", but has been shown to be false.

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* FunWithAcronyms: Subverted. KISS is often spelled in all-caps, and has been rumoured to be an acronym, acronym (which it isn't), with meanings such as "Knights In Satan's Service" or "Kids In your Sister's Skirt", but has been shown to be false.



* HesBack: Much of the hype surrounding ''Psycho Circus'' came from Ace and Peter returning to the band, at the same time the band returned to the makeup and theatrics that made them famous in the '70s.



* HiddenDepths:
** Though he may seem like a boastful, womanizing egomaniac; Gene Simmons is actually a very shrewd businessman and investor, as well as a former schoolteacher.
** Ace Frehley is mostly remembered for being the goofy guy in the group, despite having the higheat IQ in the band, a sucessful solo artist and a very talented guitaist [[BrilliantButLazy when not drunk]].
** Paul Stanley starred in the titular role of ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' in Toronto in 1999 and was praised for his performance in the role.
** Mark St John was a respected guitar teacher before joining Kiss.
** Vinnie Vincent was an accomplished musician, writing tracks for shows like Happy Days before joining Kiss.



* HiddenDepths:
** Though he may seem like a boastful, womanizing egomaniac; Gene Simmons is actually a very shrewd businessman and investor, as well as a former schoolteacher.
** Ace Frehley is mostly remembered for being the goofy guy in the group, despite having the higheat IQ in the band, a sucessful solo artist and a very talented guitaist [[BrilliantButLazy when not drunk]].
** Paul Stanley starred in the titular role of ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' in Toronto in 1999 and was praised for his performance in the role.
** Mark St John was a respected guitar teacher before joining Kiss.
** Vinnie Vincent was an accomplished musician, writing tracks for shows like Happy Days before joining Kiss.



* NaughtyByNight: "Thrills in the Night" from ''Animalize'' tells the story of a woman who works a 9-to-5 job but moonlights as a hooker.



* NaughtyByNight: "Thrills in the Night" from ''Animalize'' tells the story of a woman who works a 9-to-5 job but moonlights as a hooker.
* NewSoundAlbum: ''Carnival of Souls: The Final Sessions'' is essentially a grunge album. Half a decade too late for them to capitalize on it, but still.



* StageNames: The only members to use their birth names are Tommy Thayer and Bruce Kulick (for starters, the original four all used stage names; Simmons was born Chaim Witz, Paul Stanley is Stanley Harvey Eisen, Ace Frehley's first name is really Paul, and Peter Criss' real name is George Crisscoula). Many members went ahead and used at least one of their birth names for their stage names, though (for example, Vinnie Vincent is Vincent Cusano, and Mark St. John is Mark Norton).

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* StageNames: The only members to use their birth names are Tommy Thayer and Bruce Kulick (for starters, the original four all used stage names; Simmons was born Chaim Witz, Paul Stanley is Stanley Harvey Eisen, Ace Frehley's first name is really Paul, and Peter Criss' real name is George Crisscoula).Criscuola). Many members went ahead and used at least one of their birth names for their stage names, though (for example, Vinnie Vincent is Vincent Cusano, and Mark St. John is Mark Norton).



** Oh, and Peter messed up the lyrics to "Rock N Roll All Nite," of all possible songs, on ''MTV Unplugged.''
** Actually, as a member, Peter got to sing again on the [[Music/{{Dynasty}} following album's]] ''Dirty Living'', plus two songs on ''Alive II'', plus his complete solo Kiss album from 1978.
** Eric Carr does a cover of "Beth" on the 1988 ''Smashes, Thrashes, And Hits'' album.

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** Oh, and Peter messed up the lyrics to "Rock N and Roll All Nite," of all possible songs, on ''MTV Unplugged.''
** Actually, as a member, Peter got to sing again on the [[Music/{{Dynasty}} following album's]] ''Dirty Living'', "Dirty Livin'", plus two songs on ''Alive II'', plus his complete solo Kiss album from 1978.
** Eric Carr does a cover of Earlier, Peter sang in "Nothin' to Lose" (shared with Gene), "Black Diamond" (shared with Paul), "Kissin' Time" (shared with [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both Gene and Paul]]). His first solo vocal credits came in ''Hotter Than Hell'', with "Mainline" and "Strange Ways", followed by "Getaway" (''Dressed to Kill''), "Beth" (''Destroyer'', the best-known example), "Baby Driver", "Hard Luck Woman" (''Rock and Roll Over''), the aforementioned "Dirty Livin'" and "I Finally Found My Way" (''Psycho Circus''). Ace, meanwhile, would go on to sing on "2,000 Man" (a Music/RollingStones cover), "Hard Times", "Save Your Love" (all three from ''Dynasty''), "Talk to Me", "Two Sides of the Coin", "Torpedo Girl" (all three from ''Unmasked''), "Dark Light" (''Music from The Elder'') and "Into the Void" (''Psycho Circus'').
** While "Beth" is traditionally more a Peter Criss song than one for the whole band (after all, he wrote it for his mother), Eric Carr covered it
on the 1988 ''Smashes, Thrashes, And Hits'' album.album. He also sang "Little Caesar" in ''Hot in the Shade'', the following year.
** Eric and Peter share "Nothin' to Lose" in the band's ''MTV Unplugged''.



** Gene Simmons sings lead on "God of Thunder".

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** "You Wanted the Best", from ''Psycho Circus'', is the only one where all four members are officially credited with vocal duties. Earlier, the break section of "Shout It Out Loud" had all four members takingturns each singing a phrase, while Paul sang the first verse and Gene Simmons sings lead on "God of Thunder".the second.
9th Oct '17 8:34:03 AM AndyLA
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* SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan: This trope is seen when you compare the lyrics of songs written by Paul with the lyrics of songs written by Gene. Paul spent decades searching for the woman of his dreams and had his heart famously broken by actress Donna Dixon, while Gene spent decades having sex with every willing woman in his path and denouncing monogamy. Some of the more famous songs written by Paul include "I Want You", "Strutter", "Anything for My Baby", and "Shandi", which are all songs about Paul longing for a woman he can't have. Meanwhile, Gene wrote songs like "Calling Dr. Love", "Christine Sixteen", and "Nothing to Lose" which all have very sexual lyrics.

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* SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan: This trope is seen when you compare the lyrics of songs written by Paul with the lyrics of songs written by Gene. Paul spent decades searching for the woman of his dreams and had his heart famously broken by actress Donna Dixon, while Gene spent decades having sex with every willing woman in his path and denouncing monogamy. Some of the more famous songs written by Paul include "I Want You", "Strutter", "Anything for My Baby", and "Shandi", which are all songs about Paul longing for a woman he can't have. Meanwhile, Gene wrote songs like "Calling Dr. Love", "Christine Sixteen", and "Nothing to Lose" which all have very sexual lyrics. It even reflects on their own singing deliveries: Paul's voice is smoother and higher, while Gene sings with a low, growling voice.
9th Oct '17 7:51:54 AM AndyLA
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** The live bootleg they released alongside ''Sonic Boom'' is titled ''Jigoku Retsuden'' (Hellish Transmission).

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** The live bootleg album of rerecordings they released alongside ''Sonic Boom'' is titled ''Jigoku Retsuden'' (Hellish Transmission).Transmission). Fittingly enough, it was released straight for the Japanese market.


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* NewSoundAlbum: ''Carnival of Souls: The Final Sessions'' is essentially a grunge album. Half a decade too late for them to capitalize on it, but still.


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* RearrangeTheSong: Like many other live rock albums with orchestras, ''Alive IV'' (although the orchestra is only present for about two-thirds of the album). ''Jigoku Retsuden'' is also this in a fashion, as it's the band playing their classics with Tommy and Eric Singer.
9th Jul '17 11:37:55 AM Bartzv
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** Not just that, but Paul and Gene have said that they envision that their own stage persona's will be filled by other musicians after they retire. They want the band to keep going even after all of the original members are no longer performing.
11th Jun '17 8:06:53 AM EuroBurro
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KISS is an American rock band, formed in the [[TheSeventies January 1973]] in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity. It is well known for the face paint and complex costumes worn by the band-members, and its [[GreatBallsOfFire theatrical concerts]], which involve, among other things, fire breathing, blood spitting, smoking guitars, and [[ImpressivePyrotechnics lots of pyrotechnics]]. The [[FaceOfTheBand most well-known members]] are front-man Paul Stanley (rhythm guitar; his stage persona is "Starchild", due to being a "starry-eyed lover" and "hopeless romantic", a little ironic as he's now HappilyMarried) and of course Series/{{Gene Simmons|FamilyJewels}} (bass; the "Demon", cynical and fan of dark elements, and also known for [[OverlyLongTongue his enormous tongue]]). The two other founding members are the guitarist Ace Frehley (the "Spaceman", a reflection of his fondness for science fiction and [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} supposedly being from another planet]]) and drummer Peter Criss (the "Catman", in accordance with the belief that [[CatsHaveNineLives he had nine lives]] because of his rough childhood in Brooklyn.), whose make-ups are still worn by their current replacements, Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer (respectively).

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KISS is an American rock band, formed in the [[TheSeventies January 1973]] in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity. It is well known for the face paint and complex costumes worn by the band-members, and its [[GreatBallsOfFire theatrical concerts]], which involve, among other things, fire breathing, blood spitting, smoking guitars, and [[ImpressivePyrotechnics lots of pyrotechnics]]. The [[FaceOfTheBand most well-known members]] are front-man Paul Stanley (rhythm guitar; his stage persona is "Starchild", due to being a "starry-eyed lover" and "hopeless romantic", a little ironic as he's now HappilyMarried) and of course Series/{{Gene Simmons|FamilyJewels}} (bass; the "Demon", cynical and fan of dark elements, and also known for [[OverlyLongTongue his enormous tongue]]). The two other founding members are the guitarist Ace Frehley (the "Spaceman", a reflection of his fondness for science fiction and [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} supposedly being from another planet]]) and drummer Peter Criss (the "Catman", in accordance with the belief that [[CatsHaveNineLives he had nine lives]] because of his rough childhood in Brooklyn.), whose make-ups are still worn by their current replacements, Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer (respectively).



** Eric Carr did not record anything for "Revenge", outside of Carr Jam 1981. [[JustfiedTrope Justified]] however, since he was suffering from a rare form of cancer that killed him before the album was finished.



* BigApplesauce:

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* BigApplesauce: BigGuyLittleGuy: Eric Singer (5'6) as the little guy and Tommy Thayer (6'2), Gene Simmons (6'2) and Paul Stanley (6') as the big guys.
** In the 80s Eric Carr (5'7) was the smallest guy in the band, and shared the title with Vinnie Vincent (Also 5'7) for a while.
* BigApplesauce:



* HiddenDepths: Gene had been a teacher prior to his music career.



** Though he may seem like a boastful, womanizing egomaniac; Gene Simmons is actually a very shrewd businessman and investor.

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** Though he may seem like a boastful, womanizing egomaniac; Gene Simmons is actually a very shrewd businessman and investor.investor, as well as a former schoolteacher.
** Ace Frehley is mostly remembered for being the goofy guy in the group, despite having the higheat IQ in the band, a sucessful solo artist and a very talented guitaist [[BrilliantButLazy when not drunk]].



** Mark St John was a respected guitar teacher before joining Kiss.
** Vinnie Vincent was an accomplished musician, writing tracks for shows like Happy Days before joining Kiss.



* TheLeader: Paul since the mid 80s, after Gene attempts to launch a movie career.

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* TheLeader: Paul since the mid 80s, after Gene attempts to launch a movie career. Before and after that, Gene and Paul ran the show together, being the original members and all.


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** Their outfits in the mid-80s were androgynous at best.
31st May '17 7:18:07 AM HulkingChevon
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* CarefulWithThatAxe: Occasionally Gene, with probably the ''Lick It Up'' album featuring the most in a singular work.



* MetalScream: Gene and less-frequently Paul both did this, especially in the 80s. Paul favored more the 'clean' Type 4 variety, while Gene did more of a Type 3.

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* MetalScream: Gene and less-frequently Paul both did this, especially in the 80s. Paul favored more 80s with probably the 'clean' Type 4 variety, while Gene did more of ''Lick It Up'' album featuring the most in a Type 3.singular work.
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