History Music / FranzLiszt

20th Feb '17 2:07:43 AM bt8257
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* DirectorsCut: The original ending of his Faust Symphony was a rather abrupt handful of bars celebrating Faust's apotheosis. A replacement ending instead featured a men's chorus supported by an organ, notably more [[LighterAndSofter tonal and glorious]] than the original ending which implied [[EvilIsCool Mephisto]] to be [[EsotericHappyEnding way more sympathetic]] than he would be in a classic good ending. JustifiedTrope since Liszt became [[FaithHeelTurn a clergyman later in life]].

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* DirectorsCut: The original ending of his Faust Symphony was a rather abrupt handful of bars celebrating Faust's apotheosis. A replacement ending instead featured a men's chorus supported by an organ, notably more [[LighterAndSofter tonal and glorious]] than the original ending which implied [[EvilIsCool Mephisto]] to be [[EsotericHappyEnding way more sympathetic]] than he would be in a classic good ending. JustifiedTrope since Liszt became [[FaithHeelTurn [[HeelFaithTurn a clergyman later in life]].
10th Feb '17 11:11:54 PM mlsmithca
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As a child prodigy, Liszt was stage-managed by his father, until he dropped dead in 1827. Liszt entered a self-imposed exile until the 1830s. After coming out of seclusion, he toured for nine years in Europe, and accrued a devoted fanbase comparable to that of today's pop stars. When Liszt got tired of touring, he settled in Weimar, where he first met that young hotshot composer Creator/RichardWagner. They were musical kindred spirits, with a flair for the dramatic. Liszt actually premiered several of Wagner's operas. After 15 years in Weimar, Liszt moved to Rome. Though Liszt was quite the womanizer, he was a practicing Roman Catholic; nonetheless, his decision to become a priest shocked everyone. After he took up the cloth, Liszt spent the last years of his life teaching in Rome, Weimar, and Budapest (which must have been quite the commute). Liszt died in 1886, without having his Last Rites, with his request to be buried simply in a monk's robe ignored.

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As a child prodigy, Liszt was stage-managed by his father, father Adam (who played cello in the Esterházy family's orchestra under the baton of Music/JosephHaydn, and through whom the teenaged Liszt met Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven and Music/FranzSchubert at least once each), until he dropped dead in 1827. Liszt entered a self-imposed exile until the 1830s. After coming out of seclusion, he toured for nine years in Europe, and accrued a devoted fanbase comparable to that of today's pop stars. When Liszt got tired of touring, he settled in Weimar, where he first met that young hotshot composer Creator/RichardWagner. They were musical kindred spirits, with a flair for the dramatic. Liszt actually premiered several of Wagner's operas. After 15 years in Weimar, Liszt moved to Rome. Though Liszt was quite the womanizer, he was a practicing Roman Catholic; nonetheless, his decision to become a priest shocked everyone. After he took up the cloth, Liszt spent the last years of his life teaching in Rome, Weimar, and Budapest (which must have been quite the commute). Liszt died in 1886, without having his Last Rites, with his request to be buried simply in a monk's robe ignored.



* AscendedFanboy: Liszt became friends with composer [[TheMentor Hector Berlioz]].

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* AscendedFanboy: Liszt became friends with composer [[TheMentor Hector Berlioz]].Berlioz]]; his arrangement for solo piano of Berlioz' ''Symphonie fantastique'' helped to popularise the work in the older composer's lifetime, and it is now considered the his greatest work.



* FriendlyRivalry: with Music/FryderykChopin.

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* FriendlyRivalry: With Music/FryderykChopin. Each admired the other's work as a composer, although Chopin was said to be jealous of Liszt's virtuosity as a pianist - and also annoyed at the liberties he took with Music/FryderykChopin.Chopin's own work when he performed it in public. Their jealousy spilled into their personal lives as well; Liszt was suspicious of the friendship between Chopin and his own romantic partner (and the mother of his illegitimate children), Countess Marie d'Agoult, while Chopin thought there was something going on between Liszt and his own on-off girlfriend, author George Sand.



* OldGuardVersusNewBlood: The ''War of the Romantics''. Liszt was [[TheLeader the informal leader]] of ''New German School'', a loose group of German composers who wrote progressive music [[TheMentor inspired by Hector Berlioz and Robert Schumann]]. [[TheLancer His most important fellow]] was his friend and son-in-law Music/RichardWagner. Their opponents, the conservatives, were greater in numbers and support and included Music/JohannesBrahms, Music/FelixMendelssohn, and [[FaceHeelTurn Schumann's widow]] Music/ClaraSchumann. Interestingly, both sides heraled Music/LudwigVanBeethoven as their idol. The war was somewhat settled when Arnold Schoenberg clarified during the early 20th century, that Brahms and Wagner were NotSoDifferent and [[TakingAThirdOption took them both]] as a basis for his new music, the twelve tone technique, [[FromBadToWorse creating a whole new schism between classical music and his radical compositions]].

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* OldGuardVersusNewBlood: The ''War of the Romantics''. Liszt was [[TheLeader the informal leader]] of ''New German School'', a loose group of German composers who wrote progressive music [[TheMentor inspired by Hector Berlioz and Robert Schumann]]. [[TheLancer His most important fellow]] was his friend and son-in-law Music/RichardWagner. Their opponents, the conservatives, were greater in numbers and support and included Music/JohannesBrahms, Music/FelixMendelssohn, and [[FaceHeelTurn Schumann's widow]] Music/ClaraSchumann. Interestingly, both sides heraled heralded Music/LudwigVanBeethoven as their idol. The war was somewhat settled when Arnold Schoenberg clarified during the early 20th century, that Brahms and Wagner were NotSoDifferent and [[TakingAThirdOption took them both]] as a basis for his new music, the twelve tone technique, [[FromBadToWorse creating a whole new schism between classical music and his radical compositions]].



** Liebestraum No. 3 is far more gentle than his usual work, partially [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] far since it still requires virtuoso piano skills.

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** Liebestraum No. 3 is far more gentle than his usual work, partially [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] far since it still requires virtuoso piano skills.
9th Nov '16 7:47:36 AM dlchen145
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* EpicRocking: Sonata in B minor. Performances finish around 30 minutes. It's considered one of the most {{Badass}} pieces of Classical Music.

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* EpicRocking: Sonata in B minor. Performances finish around 30 minutes. It's considered one of the most {{Badass}} badass pieces of Classical Music.
19th Feb '16 4:31:27 AM Pneumatrap
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* FaithHeelTurn: Became an Abbé later in in life.
14th Feb '16 10:50:08 AM mlsmithca
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** AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Franz Liszt himself considered Charles-Valentin Alkan the best pianist of his time.

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** * AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Franz Liszt himself considered Charles-Valentin Alkan the best pianist of his time.



* EpicRocking: ''Sonata in b minor''. Performances finish around 30 minutes. It's considered one of the most {{Badass}} pieces of Classical Music.

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* EpicRocking: ''Sonata Sonata in b minor''.B minor. Performances finish around 30 minutes. It's considered one of the most {{Badass}} pieces of Classical Music.Music.
* EstrogenBrigade: Not surprisingly given his dashing good looks and flowing hair.



* FriendlyRivalry: with FryderykChopin.
* UsefulNotes/TheGreatNorthernWar: "Mazeppa" is a symphonic poem based on this.
* GriefSong: He wrote ''dark'' tunes after the death of his son-in-law RichardWagner, dedicated to him.

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* FriendlyRivalry: with FryderykChopin.
* UsefulNotes/TheGreatNorthernWar: "Mazeppa" is a symphonic poem based on this.
Music/FryderykChopin.
* GriefSong: He wrote ''dark'' tunes after the death of his son-in-law RichardWagner, Music/RichardWagner, dedicated to him.



** EstrogenBrigade: Not surprisingly given his dashing good looks and flowing hair.



* OldGuardVersusNewBlood: The ''War of the Romantics''. Liszt was [[TheLeader the informal leader]] of ''New German School'', a loose group of German composers who wrote progressive music [[TheMentor inspired by Hector Berlioz and Robert Schumann]]. [[TheLancer His most important fellow]] was his friend and son-in-law Music/RichardWagner. Their opponents, the conservatives, were greater in numbers and support and included Music/JohannesBrahms, Music/FelixMendelssohn, and [[FaceHeelTurn Schumann's widow]] Music/ClaraSchumann. Interestingly, both sides heraled Music/LudwigVanBeethoven as their idol. The war was somewhat settled when Arnold Schoenberg clarified during the early 20th century, that Brahms and Wagner were NotSoDifferent and [[TakingAThirdOption took them both]] as a basis for his new music, the twelve tone technique, [[FromBadToWorse creating awhole new schism between classical music and his radical compositions]].

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* OldGuardVersusNewBlood: The ''War of the Romantics''. Liszt was [[TheLeader the informal leader]] of ''New German School'', a loose group of German composers who wrote progressive music [[TheMentor inspired by Hector Berlioz and Robert Schumann]]. [[TheLancer His most important fellow]] was his friend and son-in-law Music/RichardWagner. Their opponents, the conservatives, were greater in numbers and support and included Music/JohannesBrahms, Music/FelixMendelssohn, and [[FaceHeelTurn Schumann's widow]] Music/ClaraSchumann. Interestingly, both sides heraled Music/LudwigVanBeethoven as their idol. The war was somewhat settled when Arnold Schoenberg clarified during the early 20th century, that Brahms and Wagner were NotSoDifferent and [[TakingAThirdOption took them both]] as a basis for his new music, the twelve tone technique, [[FromBadToWorse creating awhole a whole new schism between classical music and his radical compositions]].



* SurprisinglyGentleSong: Liebestraum No. 3 is far more gentle than his usual work, partially [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] far since it still requires virtuoso piano skills.

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* SurprisinglyGentleSong: SurprisinglyGentleSong:
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Liebestraum No. 3 is far more gentle than his usual work, partially [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] far since it still requires virtuoso piano skills.



* TropeCodifier: He codified the symphonic poem, a piece of music that illustrates a non-musical source on a larger scale than the concert overture, building on the [[TropeMaker innovations]] of Music/HectorBerlioz.



* TropeCodifier: He codified the symphonic poem, a piece of music that illustrates an non-musical source, building on the [[TropeMaker innovations]] of Music/HectorBerlioz.
14th Feb '16 10:44:53 AM ParanoiaAgent
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* DealWithTheDevil: His contemporaries suspected him to have sold his soul to the devil to be equal parts virtuoso, original, and dashingly handsome.
* DirectorsCut: The original ending of his Faust Symphony was a rather abrupt handful of bars celebrating Faust's apotheosis. A replacement ending instead featured a men's chorus supported by an organ, notably more [[LighterAndSofter tonal and glorious]] than the original ending which implied [[EvilIsCool Mephisto]] to be [[EsotericHappyEnding way more sympathetic]] than he would be in a classic good ending. JustifiedTrope since Liszt became [[FaithHeelTurn a clergyman later in life]].


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* FaithHeelTurn: Became an Abbé later in in life.
10th Jan '16 9:21:40 AM ParanoiaAgent
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* OldGuardVersusNewBlood: The ''War of the Romantics''. Liszt was [[TheLeader the informal leader]] of ''New German School'', a loose group of German composers who wrote progressive music [[TheMentor inspired by Hector Berlioz and Robert Schumann]]. [[TheLancer His most important fellow]] was his friend and son-in-law Music/RichardWagner. Their opponents, the conservatives, were greater in numbers and support and included Music/JohannesBrahms, Music/FelixMendelssohn, and [[FaceHeelTurn Schumann's widow]] Music/ClaraSchumann. Interestingly, both sides heraled Music/LudwigVanBeethoven as their idol. The war was somewhat settled when Arnold Schoenberg clarified during the early 20th century, that Brahms and Wagner were NotSoDifferent and [[TakingAThirdOption took them both]] as a basis for his new music, the twelve tone technique, [[FromBadToWorse creating awhole new schism between classical music and his radical compositions]].
20th Oct '15 6:03:26 PM jamespolk
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He is the composer of the Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2, immortalized in the cartoons WesternAnimation/TheCatConcerto and WesternAnimation/RhapsodyRabbit as ''the'' definitive concert piano music.

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He is the composer of the Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2, immortalized in the cartoons WesternAnimation/TheCatConcerto "WesternAnimation/TheCatConcerto" and WesternAnimation/RhapsodyRabbit "WesternAnimation/RhapsodyRabbit" as ''the'' definitive concert piano music.
17th Sep '15 9:17:27 AM MarkLungo
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* GreatNorthernWar: "Mazeppa" is a symphonic poem based on this.

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* GreatNorthernWar: UsefulNotes/TheGreatNorthernWar: "Mazeppa" is a symphonic poem based on this.



5th Jun '15 5:28:14 PM Ninjabait
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* GreatNorthernWar: "Mazeppa" is a symphonic poem based on this.


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* NoEnding: Some of his later works do this, such as Nuages gris and the various La lugubre gondola.


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* UnbuiltTrope: Totentanz with its dissonant usage of the Dies Irae theme, making it sound like actual post-[[Music/IgorStravinsky Stravinsky]] Modern Classical, when it's "only" Liszt's progressive style coupled with Romantic Irony.
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