History Music / Emo

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->"And I don't know God
->And I don't anyone
->And I don't know God
->And I don't know if anything at all will be all right
->I've got my hands on the one hand,
->but I don't know where to put them."
-->-- The Promise Ring "Nothing Feels Good"

{{Emo}} isn't just a subculture, you know. It's a form of music.

A very woefully misjudged form of music actually, emo has a long and varied history that touches the early 2000's and extends all the way back to the 80's. Despite the fact that emo has become a... polarizing term in our current critical establishment, Emo has produced a fair share of talented but underrated (and often multi-platinum selling) acts who aren't quite given proper critical respect due to the rise of modern day hipsterdom.

The history can be seperated into three different eras, four if you count screamo, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin which is emo with lots of screaming.]]

Emo itself (the music) is typically characterized by melodic musicianship and bluntly expressive, often confessional lyrics. It grew out of the HardcorePunk and PostHardcore scenes in UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC in the mid-eighties, with bands like Rites of Spring, Fugazi, and Embrace rising in popularity as a response to the perceived violence in the punk movement. While the DC scene would fade out by the end of TheEighties, by then it had spread across the country, with bands like UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}'s Sunny Day Real Estate and UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco's Jawbreaker carrying the torch of emo through TheNineties. Thanks to the rise of {{grunge}} and the boom in underground music in the early part of the decade, bands later labelled "emo" first got mainstream exposure during this period.

It was in the later part of TheNineties when emo began to capitalize on its increased appeal. In 1996, Music/{{Weezer}} released their sophomore album ''Pinkerton'' which, despite being initially bashed by critics and listeners alike, [[VindicatedByHistory is now regarded]] as one of the greatest albums of the decade, and is viewed as having introduced emo to the mainstream (emo bands that had gotten famous before were, at the time, mostly associated with grunge) and influenced the genre. Emo firmly broke into the mainstream in 2001, when Jimmy Eat World released their hit album ''Bleed American'', with its hit single "The Middle". Thanks to Jimmy, a whole new subculture evolved. The emo scene, once associated with underground music, developed and evolved as a result of mainstream exposure, and out of it grew the {{Emo Teen}}s. For the exact definition of an emo, go see the article. We're describing the music, not the person who listens to it.

Now, for the "three forms of music" thing. The three are commonly just known as "emo". To avoid confusion, we'll name the three types: "classic emo", "2000's post-hardcore", and "emo-pop".

Classic emo is essentially HardcorePunk with an artsy and emotional twist, with some of it even predicating PostRock. This is the form both sides of the fence will agree has mettle. Despite this, the bands never quite touched the mainstream. The key bands from this genre each had a different and unique variation on the sound: from Sunny Day Real Estate's anthemic, artsy blood-lettings, Braid's math pop, {{Weezer}} and The Get Up Kids' emotional power pop filled with crunchy guitars and nerdy sexual frustration, Texas is the Reason's sensitive, hardcore derived punch, Jimmy Eat World's grand ambition and "guy next door" song writing, and Mineral's pure, raw emotion.

Of the emotive hardcore bands only Weezer, The Get Up Kids, and Jimmy Eat World had real commercial success due to their greater reliance of conventional pop song structure.

After Jimmy Eat World hit multi-platinum it also popularized a new darker variation of the sound. This early 2000's movement known as the 2000's post-hardcore Emo movement managed to balance a dark hardcore punch with introspective pop craft to create a powerful and moving variation of the emo sound that was more abrasive than the first, but was also more accessible. The bands in this genre act as a sort of midpoint between emotive hardcore and emo-pop since it combines elements of both post-hardcore and pop punk. Many bands of this genre are greatly influenced by GothRock and PostPunk as well as The Misfits horror influenced take on Hardcore. The bands in this genre became widely popular with many groups and are sometimes confused with emo-pop despite their innovative song writing, as well as there intense hardcore derived sound. The most well known members of this genre are: the hardcore punk revivalists (and dabbling post-industrialists) called Music/{{AFI}}, the suburban art rockers that make up BrandNew, the gothic, theatrical, and over the top {{Post-hardcore}} meets GlamRock act MyChemicalRomance, eclectic screamers TheUsed and Music/{{Thursday}}, The bunch of indie ironists and music philosophers known as Music/SayAnything, and finally TakingBackSunday who pretty much personified the whole movements combination of darkly romantic hardcore punk and poppy, melodic rock.

Emo-Pop was born in the mid-2000's and combines elements of pop rock, classic emo introspection, and punk rock. The first and most well known of these is FallOutBoy. Although many earlier emo bands had a poppy sound Fall Out Boy was the first to take emo into an overtly pop direction. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, since Fall Out Boy is generally treated more favorably by the critical spectrum by often go against the stock formula used by their emo-pop followers: adding elements of Soul, R&B, orchestral flourishes, and even hardcore punk. This is much less common among their emo-pop contemporaries, who often are more than a bit formulaic, and lacks the emotion and sensitivity of the previous emo scenes. Along with {{metalcore}} and post-grunge, emo-pop is a LoveItOrHateIt genre -- it is insanely popular with some groups, while the rest... well, you know.

There's been a recent influx of Indie Emo bands reinvigorating the Classic Emo sound, many notably on the ''Count Your Lucky Stars'' label. Empire! Empire! I Was a Lonely Estate, [[OverlyLongName The World is a Beautiful Place and I Am No Longer Afraid to Die]], and Snowing are just a few of them. There's also the ''{{Defend Pop Punk}}'' scene, which has revived elements of Emo with PopPunk and Melodic Hardcore. Big names in that scene include Transit (another American Football-influenced band also part of the above Indie Emo revivalists with their recent output), Man Overboard, The Wonder Years, most of ''Rise Records''' roster, etc. Bands from ''The Wave'' (Music/LaDispute, Pianos Become the Teeth) have also taken cues from this particular genre, mostly from Screamo.

Emo hit its high-water mark around 2008, and has lost mainstream appeal since then; although it still has a very loyal fanbase.

So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what {{Psychedelic rock}}, {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, and NuMetal did for past decades.
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"Classic" Emo bands:
* Appleseed Cast
* Braid
* Bright Eyes
* Cap'n Jazz (see also American Football, Owen, other Kinsella Bros. bands)
* {{Death Cab For Cutie}}
* Embrace
* Fugazi
* The Get Up Kids
* Jawbreaker
* JimmyEatWorld
* Lifetime
* Midtown
* Mineral
* Penfold
* The Promise Ring
* {{Orchid}}
* Rites of Spring
* {{Saves the Day}}
* SunnyDayRealEstate
* Texas is the Reason
* {{Weezer}} (straddles the fine line between being an [[AlternativeRock Alternative]] PowerPop band and an emo one, but their first album and especially the self-produced ''Pinkerton'' are commonly accepted as key parts of the 90's emo scene as well as being a large influence on later emo bands)
* {{Yellowcard}} (they've got a violin!)

2000's Post-hardcore/Emo bands:
* Music/{{AFI}} (mixes this with the deathrock/horror punk style of {{goth rock}})
* Aiden
* Alkaline Trio
* The Beautiful Mistake
* {{Blink-182}} (started as PopPunk, but changed to this on their critically acclaimed self titled album)
** The same thing applies to Tom Delonge's side project Boxcar Racer
* BrandNew (Mixed with Indie Rock)
* Music/{{Chiodos}}
* Circa Survive
* Emery
* {{Escape the Fate}} (switched to emo-pop on their sophomore album)
* Finch
* From First to Last (you know, {{Skrillex}}'s first band)
* FuneralForAFriend
* Grade
* Hawthorne Heights
* MyChemicalRomance (First three albums were a mix of this genre, deathrock/horror punk style {{goth rock}}, and 70's {{Glam Rock}}. Danger Days was instead a mix of {{pop punk}} and {{Dance-Punk}})
* Pencey Prep
* Saosin
* Music/SayAnything (also indie rock)
* Senses Fail
* Sparta
* A Static Lullaby
* Story of The Year
* TakingBackSunday (also indie rock and alternative rock)
* Music/{{Thrice}} (For their first few albums, at least. More recent releases dabble in a diverse range of genres, from electronica to folk.)
* Music/{{Thursday}}
* TheUsed (also alternative rock, among other things)

"Emo-Pop" bands (the controversial bit):
* The Academy Is...
* AllTimeLow
* Music/AllAmericanRejects
* Boys Like Girls
* {{Cobra Starship}} (Mixed with {{synthpop}}, also Gabe Saporta from Midtown's second band)
* Dashboard Confessional
* FallOutBoy (a very critically liked and well respected emo-pop bands among modern rock critics)
* Forever the Sickest Kids
* MaydayParade
* PanicAtTheDisco (another critically acclaimed emo-pop band, mainly because they added elements of vaudeville, {{Psychedelic Rock}} and {{dance-punk}} to their sound instead of the usual formula.)
* {{Paramore}} (along with panic! and fall out boy, they are one of the respected emo-pop bands, especially because they are clearly influenced by old school emo such as Sunny Day Real Estate)
* Simple Plan
* Music/TokioHotel (they're fairly well-liked and German)
* We Are the In Crowd
* We The Kings
* The Wonder Years

And... that's it. Oh, one more thing: if you plan to cause a sizable amount of InternetBackdraft, remember to clean it up afterwards, won't you? After all, InternetBackdraft is bad for the environment!

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to:

->"And I don't know God
->And I don't anyone
->And I don't know God
->And I don't know if anything at all will be all right
->I've got my hands on the one hand,
->but I don't know where to put them."
-->-- The Promise Ring "Nothing Feels Good"

{{Emo}} isn't just a subculture, you know. It's a form of music.

A very woefully misjudged form of music actually, emo has a long and varied history that touches the early 2000's and extends all the way back to the 80's. Despite the fact that emo has become a... polarizing term in our current critical establishment, Emo has produced a fair share of talented but underrated (and often multi-platinum selling) acts who aren't quite given proper critical respect due to the rise of modern day hipsterdom.

The history can be seperated into three different eras, four if you count screamo, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin which is emo with lots of screaming.]]

Emo itself (the music) is typically characterized by melodic musicianship and bluntly expressive, often confessional lyrics. It grew out of the HardcorePunk and PostHardcore scenes in UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC in the mid-eighties, with bands like Rites of Spring, Fugazi, and Embrace rising in popularity as a response to the perceived violence in the punk movement. While the DC scene would fade out by the end of TheEighties, by then it had spread across the country, with bands like UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}'s Sunny Day Real Estate and UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco's Jawbreaker carrying the torch of emo through TheNineties. Thanks to the rise of {{grunge}} and the boom in underground music in the early part of the decade, bands later labelled "emo" first got mainstream exposure during this period.

It was in the later part of TheNineties when emo began to capitalize on its increased appeal. In 1996, Music/{{Weezer}} released their sophomore album ''Pinkerton'' which, despite being initially bashed by critics and listeners alike, [[VindicatedByHistory is now regarded]] as one of the greatest albums of the decade, and is viewed as having introduced emo to the mainstream (emo bands that had gotten famous before were, at the time, mostly associated with grunge) and influenced the genre. Emo firmly broke into the mainstream in 2001, when Jimmy Eat World released their hit album ''Bleed American'', with its hit single "The Middle". Thanks to Jimmy, a whole new subculture evolved. The emo scene, once associated with underground music, developed and evolved as a result of mainstream exposure, and out of it grew the {{Emo Teen}}s. For the exact definition of an emo, go see the article. We're describing the music, not the person who listens to it.

Now, for the "three forms of music" thing. The three are commonly just known as "emo". To avoid confusion, we'll name the three types: "classic emo", "2000's post-hardcore", and "emo-pop".

Classic emo is essentially HardcorePunk with an artsy and emotional twist, with some of it even predicating PostRock. This is the form both sides of the fence will agree has mettle. Despite this, the bands never quite touched the mainstream. The key bands from this genre each had a different and unique variation on the sound: from Sunny Day Real Estate's anthemic, artsy blood-lettings, Braid's math pop, {{Weezer}} and The Get Up Kids' emotional power pop filled with crunchy guitars and nerdy sexual frustration, Texas is the Reason's sensitive, hardcore derived punch, Jimmy Eat World's grand ambition and "guy next door" song writing, and Mineral's pure, raw emotion.

Of the emotive hardcore bands only Weezer, The Get Up Kids, and Jimmy Eat World had real commercial success due to their greater reliance of conventional pop song structure.

After Jimmy Eat World hit multi-platinum it also popularized a new darker variation of the sound. This early 2000's movement known as the 2000's post-hardcore Emo movement managed to balance a dark hardcore punch with introspective pop craft to create a powerful and moving variation of the emo sound that was more abrasive than the first, but was also more accessible. The bands in this genre act as a sort of midpoint between emotive hardcore and emo-pop since it combines elements of both post-hardcore and pop punk. Many bands of this genre are greatly influenced by GothRock and PostPunk as well as The Misfits horror influenced take on Hardcore. The bands in this genre became widely popular with many groups and are sometimes confused with emo-pop despite their innovative song writing, as well as there intense hardcore derived sound. The most well known members of this genre are: the hardcore punk revivalists (and dabbling post-industrialists) called Music/{{AFI}}, the suburban art rockers that make up BrandNew, the gothic, theatrical, and over the top {{Post-hardcore}} meets GlamRock act MyChemicalRomance, eclectic screamers TheUsed and Music/{{Thursday}}, The bunch of indie ironists and music philosophers known as Music/SayAnything, and finally TakingBackSunday who pretty much personified the whole movements combination of darkly romantic hardcore punk and poppy, melodic rock.

Emo-Pop was born in the mid-2000's and combines elements of pop rock, classic emo introspection, and punk rock. The first and most well known of these is FallOutBoy. Although many earlier emo bands had a poppy sound Fall Out Boy was the first to take emo into an overtly pop direction. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, since Fall Out Boy is generally treated more favorably by the critical spectrum by often go against the stock formula used by their emo-pop followers: adding elements of Soul, R&B, orchestral flourishes, and even hardcore punk. This is much less common among their emo-pop contemporaries, who often are more than a bit formulaic, and lacks the emotion and sensitivity of the previous emo scenes. Along with {{metalcore}} and post-grunge, emo-pop is a LoveItOrHateIt genre -- it is insanely popular with some groups, while the rest... well, you know.

There's been a recent influx of Indie Emo bands reinvigorating the Classic Emo sound, many notably on the ''Count Your Lucky Stars'' label. Empire! Empire! I Was a Lonely Estate, [[OverlyLongName The World is a Beautiful Place and I Am No Longer Afraid to Die]], and Snowing are just a few of them. There's also the ''{{Defend Pop Punk}}'' scene, which has revived elements of Emo with PopPunk and Melodic Hardcore. Big names in that scene include Transit (another American Football-influenced band also part of the above Indie Emo revivalists with their recent output), Man Overboard, The Wonder Years, most of ''Rise Records''' roster, etc. Bands from ''The Wave'' (Music/LaDispute, Pianos Become the Teeth) have also taken cues from this particular genre, mostly from Screamo.

Emo hit its high-water mark around 2008, and has lost mainstream appeal since then; although it still has a very loyal fanbase.

So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what {{Psychedelic rock}}, {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, and NuMetal did for past decades.
----

"Classic" Emo bands:
* Appleseed Cast
* Braid
* Bright Eyes
* Cap'n Jazz (see also American Football, Owen, other Kinsella Bros. bands)
* {{Death Cab For Cutie}}
* Embrace
* Fugazi
* The Get Up Kids
* Jawbreaker
* JimmyEatWorld
* Lifetime
* Midtown
* Mineral
* Penfold
* The Promise Ring
* {{Orchid}}
* Rites of Spring
* {{Saves the Day}}
* SunnyDayRealEstate
* Texas is the Reason
* {{Weezer}} (straddles the fine line between being an [[AlternativeRock Alternative]] PowerPop band and an emo one, but their first album and especially the self-produced ''Pinkerton'' are commonly accepted as key parts of the 90's emo scene as well as being a large influence on later emo bands)
* {{Yellowcard}} (they've got a violin!)

2000's Post-hardcore/Emo bands:
* Music/{{AFI}} (mixes this with the deathrock/horror punk style of {{goth rock}})
* Aiden
* Alkaline Trio
* The Beautiful Mistake
* {{Blink-182}} (started as PopPunk, but changed to this on their critically acclaimed self titled album)
** The same thing applies to Tom Delonge's side project Boxcar Racer
* BrandNew (Mixed with Indie Rock)
* Music/{{Chiodos}}
* Circa Survive
* Emery
* {{Escape the Fate}} (switched to emo-pop on their sophomore album)
* Finch
* From First to Last (you know, {{Skrillex}}'s first band)
* FuneralForAFriend
* Grade
* Hawthorne Heights
* MyChemicalRomance (First three albums were a mix of this genre, deathrock/horror punk style {{goth rock}}, and 70's {{Glam Rock}}. Danger Days was instead a mix of {{pop punk}} and {{Dance-Punk}})
* Pencey Prep
* Saosin
* Music/SayAnything (also indie rock)
* Senses Fail
* Sparta
* A Static Lullaby
* Story of The Year
* TakingBackSunday (also indie rock and alternative rock)
* Music/{{Thrice}} (For their first few albums, at least. More recent releases dabble in a diverse range of genres, from electronica to folk.)
* Music/{{Thursday}}
* TheUsed (also alternative rock, among other things)

"Emo-Pop" bands (the controversial bit):
* The Academy Is...
* AllTimeLow
* Music/AllAmericanRejects
* Boys Like Girls
* {{Cobra Starship}} (Mixed with {{synthpop}}, also Gabe Saporta from Midtown's second band)
* Dashboard Confessional
* FallOutBoy (a very critically liked and well respected emo-pop bands among modern rock critics)
* Forever the Sickest Kids
* MaydayParade
* PanicAtTheDisco (another critically acclaimed emo-pop band, mainly because they added elements of vaudeville, {{Psychedelic Rock}} and {{dance-punk}} to their sound instead of the usual formula.)
* {{Paramore}} (along with panic! and fall out boy, they are one of the respected emo-pop bands, especially because they are clearly influenced by old school emo such as Sunny Day Real Estate)
* Simple Plan
* Music/TokioHotel (they're fairly well-liked and German)
* We Are the In Crowd
* We The Kings
* The Wonder Years

And... that's it. Oh, one more thing: if you plan to cause a sizable amount of InternetBackdraft, remember to clean it up afterwards, won't you? After all, InternetBackdraft is bad for the environment!

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14th Mar '14 5:05:07 AM musicrap
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So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what Psychedelicrock, {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, and NuMetal did for past decades.

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So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what Psychedelicrock, {{Psychedelic rock}}, {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, and NuMetal did for past decades.
14th Mar '14 5:04:51 AM musicrap
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So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, and NuMetal did for past decades.

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So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what Psychedelicrock, {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, and NuMetal did for past decades.
14th Mar '14 4:57:00 AM musicrap
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Right, the band list. Um... this may get a bit controversial, so refrain from making drastic edits. This topic's already likely to cause enough InternetBackdraft to destroy half the bandwidth.

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Right, the band list. Um... this may get a bit controversial, so refrain from making drastic edits. This topic's already likely to cause enough InternetBackdraft to destroy half the bandwidth.
10th Mar '14 10:56:32 AM Confession0791
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So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what Music/NewWave, {{Grunge}}, PsychedelicRock, and {{Disco}} did for past decades.

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Emo hit its high-water mark around 2008, and has lost mainstream appeal since then; although it still has a very loyal fanbase.

So, there you have it. The basic history of Emo. A genre that captures and defines a point in time just like what {{Disco}}, Music/NewWave, HairMetal, {{Grunge}}, PsychedelicRock, and {{Disco}} NuMetal did for past decades.
4th Mar '14 7:13:43 AM musicrap
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** The same thing applies to Tom Delonge's side project Boxcar Racer
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* {{Cobra Starship}} (Mixed with {{synthpop}}, also Gabe Saporta from Midtown's second band)
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* Lifetime
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* Bright Eyes
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