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26th Nov '16 9:06:23 AM Scolipendra
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* HeteronormativeCrusader: Chuck was evidently one. In "Mutilation," he "celebrate[s] a faggot's death," and "The Philosopher" makes a jab at former bandmate Paul Masvidal's sexual orientation.
4th Nov '16 8:33:05 PM Metalhead14
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* StartMyOwn: Kam Lee and other former members started the band Massacre after leaving, who continued in the same vein sound-wise.

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* StartMyOwn: Kam Lee and other former members started joined the band Massacre after leaving, who continued and in fact is best-known as the same vein sound-wise.frontman and voice of that group. Today, Lee performs vocals for countless underground death metal bands, but prefers to stay deep under the radar to the point that very few people are aware he's still active.
16th Oct '16 8:10:44 AM robertpercy
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* TakeThat: "Out of Touch" is directed at extreme metal bands who sacrificed musical quality for brutality and shock value and "Low Life" was almost certainly aimed at Kam Lee. "The Philosopher" is often rumored to be aimed at Paul Masvidal, but Paul himself has denied this and said there was no feud between him and Chuck.

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* TakeThat: Chuck wasn't afraid to pull a few punches during his career.
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"Out of Touch" is directed at extreme metal bands who sacrificed musical quality for brutality and shock value and "Low Life" was almost certainly aimed at Kam Lee. Lee.
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"The Philosopher" is often rumored to be aimed at really Chuck venting about former bandmate Paul Masvidal, but Masvidal. This was a rumour for years that Paul himself has denied this but was proven to be true after events surrounding the formation of Cynic and said there was no feud between him and Chuck.Sean's departure from Cynic came to light. The most damning lyric of all? "So you preach about how I'm supposed to be, yet you don't you know your own sexuality." Yikes.
16th Oct '16 8:04:40 AM robertpercy
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** "Crystal Mountain" was based off of Chuck's fundamentalist neighbors. "The Philosopher" is about someone who acts like a fundamentalist.

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** "Crystal Mountain" was based off of Chuck's fundamentalist neighbors. neighbors.
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"The Philosopher" is about someone who acts like a fundamentalist.fundamentalist. [[MisaimedFandom At least that's what people thought it was about]] until [[TakeThat a rumour about the song's actual meaning was proven right...]]
27th Jul '16 8:34:59 PM gewunomox
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[[caption-width-right:326:[[IAmTheBand Chuck Schuldiner]], Gene Hoglan, and a bunch of other guys.]]

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[[caption-width-right:326:[[IAmTheBand [[caption-width-right:326: [[IAmTheBand Chuck Schuldiner]], Gene Hoglan, and a bunch of other guys.]]
9th Jul '16 8:21:08 PM Metalhead14
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* {{Jerkass}}: Kam Lee. Between numerous tales of his egocentric, unprofessional, and incredibly unpleasant demeanor and his habit of doing nothing but slamming people in interviews in an incredibly crude, vulgar, and immature manner, Lee's name has been synonymous with "asshole" for a long time. His enmity with Chuck is legendary, but he was burning bridges with others well after he left Death. While he has gotten better with age, it's not so much because he changed his ways significantly but more because he's become self-aware of his personality.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Kam Lee. Between numerous tales of his egocentric, unprofessional, and incredibly unpleasant demeanor and his habit of doing nothing but slamming people in interviews in an incredibly crude, vulgar, and immature manner, Lee's name has been synonymous with "asshole" for a long time. His enmity with Chuck is legendary, but he was burning bridges with others well after he left Death. While However, he has gotten better openly stated that he would have reconciled with age, it's not so much because Chuck if he changed had the chance, and there's enough evidence from his ways significantly but more because he's become self-aware current fans and those in the scene who know him that he isn't actually a bad person and the way he acts is out of his personality.strong dislike of people and (possibly) experience with racism.
30th Jun '16 10:51:18 AM dmeagher13
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** ''The Sound of Perseverance'' also has some heavy hints of PowerMetal, as many of its tracks were originally intended to be Control Denied material, but [[ExecutiveMeddling the label wanted]] another Death album, so Chuck included them on the album after changing them only slightly (mostly by changing the vocals from clean singing to some of the most extreme examples of CarefulWithThatAxe on record). Control Denied, of course, is another example, being a prog metal / power metal fusion with no traces of death metal.

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** ''The Sound of Perseverance'' also has some heavy hints of PowerMetal, as many of its tracks were originally intended to be Control Denied material, but [[ExecutiveMeddling the label wanted]] another Death album, so Chuck included them on the album after changing them only slightly (mostly by changing the vocals from clean singing to some of the most extreme examples of CarefulWithThatAxe on record). Chuck subverted this when he formed Control Denied, of course, is another example, being a however, as he wanted to focus more on prog metal / power metal fusion with no traces of death metal.metal, but also wanted to avoid a TheyChangedItNowItSucks reaction from fans of Death, so he formed what was technically a new band, even if said band shared many members with the old one.
26th May '16 12:12:27 AM spirasen
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Initially, Chuck Schuldiner formed the band Mantas at the age of 16; after about a year, he dissolved the band and formed Death. After a lot of members were fired and hired by Schuldiner, the band's first album, ''Scream Bloody Gore'' (1987) was released. It is considered a landmark album of the genre, pretty much starting the trend for gory lyrics and brutality. Eventually, though, more "brutal" bands such as Deicide and Morbid Angel came along and out-brutalised Death. So, rather than up the heaviness, Schuldiner continued to grow musically, eventually heading in a more [[ProgressiveMetal progressive]] direction starting with the album ''Human''. Their transformation into a [[ProgressiveDeathMetal progressive/technical death metal]] band was one of the things that kickstarted that subgenre, along with the bands Music/{{Atheist}} and Music/{{Cynic}}.

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Initially, Chuck Schuldiner formed the band Mantas at the age of 16; after about a year, he dissolved the band and formed Death. After a lot of members were fired and hired by Schuldiner, the band's first album, ''Scream Bloody Gore'' (1987) was released. It is considered a landmark album of the genre, pretty much starting the trend for gory lyrics and brutality. Eventually, though, more "brutal" bands such as Deicide Music/{{Deicide}} and Morbid Angel Music/MorbidAngel came along and out-brutalised Death. So, rather than up the heaviness, Schuldiner continued to grow musically, eventually heading in a more [[ProgressiveMetal progressive]] direction starting with the album ''Human''. Their transformation into a [[ProgressiveDeathMetal progressive/technical death metal]] band was one of the things that kickstarted that subgenre, along with the bands Music/{{Atheist}} and Music/{{Cynic}}.



Not to be confused with Death, the 70s punk band, or [[TheGrimReaper Death]].

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Not to be confused with Death, the 70s '70s punk band, or [[TheGrimReaper Death]].
Death]].



!!Death has examples of the following tropes:

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!!Death
!! Death
has examples of the following tropes:tropes:



* ContrivedCoincidence: A tragic example, Schuldiner was the only constant member and leader of a band that constituted a bona-fide multitude of people; of those members of '''Death''', only Schuldiner has died (though guitarist James Murphy also had a cancer-related scare himself).

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* ContrivedCoincidence: A tragic example, Schuldiner was the only constant member and leader of a band that constituted a bona-fide bonafide multitude of people; of those members of '''Death''', only Schuldiner has died (though guitarist James Murphy also had a cancer-related scare himself).



* CoverVersion: [[Music/JudasPriest "Painkiller"]], the final track on ''The Sound of Perseverance'', and a version of {{KISS}}'s "God of Thunder" on the Japanese version of of ''Human'' before getting a worldwide release on the 2011 reissue of the same album.
* DeadArtistsAreBetter - Chuck Schuldiner gets this treatment somewhat. While Death's music has always been well-respected, the bad reputation he had (see Insufferable Genius below) for a long period in his career is rarely brought up anymore.
* DeathMetal: The TropeMaker ''and'', alongside Possessed's demo ''Death Metal'', the TropeNamer.

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* CoverVersion: [[Music/JudasPriest "Painkiller"]], the final track on ''The Sound of Perseverance'', and a version of {{KISS}}'s Music/{{KISS}}'s "God of Thunder" on the Japanese version of of ''Human'' before getting a worldwide release on the 2011 reissue of the same album.
* DeadArtistsAreBetter - DeadArtistsAreBetter: Chuck Schuldiner gets this treatment somewhat. While Death's music has always been well-respected, the bad reputation he had (see Insufferable Genius below) for a long period in his career is rarely brought up anymore.
* DeathMetal: The TropeMaker TropeMakers ''and'', alongside Possessed's demo ''Death Metal'', the TropeNamer.TropeNamers.



* {{Garfunkel}}: Pretty much everyone in the band aside from Chuck Schuldiner. Though he wasn't the only well-known member - [[Music/StrappingYoungLad Ge]][[Music/{{Testament}} ne]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}} Hog]][[Music/FearFactory lan]], [[Music/{{Cynic}} Paul Masvidal]], [[Music/{{Autopsy}} Chris Reifert]] and [[Music/KingDiamond Andy LaRocque]] all played with the band.



** ''The Sound of Perseverance'' also has some heavy hints of PowerMetal, as many of its tracks were originally intended to be Control Denied material, but [[ExecutiveMeddling the label wanted]] another Death album, so Chuck included them on the album after changing them only slightly (mostly by changing the vocals from clean singing to some of the most extreme examples of CarefulWithThatAxe on record). Control Denied, of course, is another example, being a prog metal[=/=]power metal fusion with no traces of death metal.

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** ''The Sound of Perseverance'' also has some heavy hints of PowerMetal, as many of its tracks were originally intended to be Control Denied material, but [[ExecutiveMeddling the label wanted]] another Death album, so Chuck included them on the album after changing them only slightly (mostly by changing the vocals from clean singing to some of the most extreme examples of CarefulWithThatAxe on record). Control Denied, of course, is another example, being a prog metal[=/=]power metal / power metal fusion with no traces of death metal.



* JerkAss: Kam Lee. Between numerous tales of his egocentric, unprofessional, and incredibly unpleasant demeanor and his habit of doing nothing but slamming people in interviews in an incredibly crude, vulgar, and immature manner, Lee's name has been synonymous with "asshole" for a long time. His enmity with Chuck is legendary, but he was burning bridges with others well after he left Death. While he has gotten better with age, it's not so much because he changed his ways significantly but more because he's become self-aware of his personality.

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* JerkAss: {{Jerkass}}: Kam Lee. Between numerous tales of his egocentric, unprofessional, and incredibly unpleasant demeanor and his habit of doing nothing but slamming people in interviews in an incredibly crude, vulgar, and immature manner, Lee's name has been synonymous with "asshole" for a long time. His enmity with Chuck is legendary, but he was burning bridges with others well after he left Death. While he has gotten better with age, it's not so much because he changed his ways significantly but more because he's become self-aware of his personality.



* LesserStar: Pretty much everyone in the band aside from Chuck Schuldiner. Though he wasn't the only well-known member -- [[Music/{{Testament}} Gene]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}} Hog]][[Music/FearFactory lan]], [[Music/{{Cynic}} Paul Masvidal]], [[Music/{{Autopsy}} Chris Reifert]] and [[Music/KingDiamond Andy LaRocque]] all played with the band.



** The mostly-acoustic song Voice Of The Soul is about a 5 or maybe even a low 6.
* {{Mr Fanservice}}: Chuck performed shirtless on plenty of occasions.

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** The mostly-acoustic song Voice Of The of the Soul is about a 5 or maybe even a low 6.
* {{Mr Fanservice}}: MrFanservice: Chuck performed shirtless on plenty of occasions.



* SplitPersonality: "Defensive Personalities"



* SplitPersonality: "Defensive Personalities"



* TropeMaker: While Possessed's album ''Seven Churches'' is the first full-length death metal album, Death are considered to be co-trope makers along with Possessed, turning death metal into an actual subgenre instead of just an extreme thrash metal variant.

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* TropeMaker: TropeMakers: While Possessed's album ''Seven Churches'' is the first full-length death metal album, Death are considered to be co-trope makers along with Possessed, turning death metal into an actual subgenre instead of just an extreme thrash metal variant.



* WolverinePublicity: James Murphy, Gene Hoglan, and Steve [=DiGiorgio=] have all become well-known for this. Murphy was ''the'' go-to in the 90s if you played death metal and wanted a cool shred solo; basically, if you're listening to a song from a death metal act that isn't really known for dazzling leadwork from that time period that breaks into a blazing neoclassical lead, they probably got Murphy to do it. The other two, meanwhile, are just known for making it their life's missions to play in just about every band ever.

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* WolverinePublicity: James Murphy, Gene Hoglan, and Steve [=DiGiorgio=] have all become well-known for this. Murphy was ''the'' go-to in the 90s '90s if you played death metal and wanted a cool shred solo; basically, if you're listening to a song from a death metal act that isn't really known for dazzling leadwork from that time period that breaks into a blazing neoclassical lead, they probably got Murphy to do it. The other two, meanwhile, are just known for making it their life's missions to play in just about every band ever.



26th May '16 12:03:50 AM spirasen
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Initially, Chuck Schuldiner formed the band Mantas at the age of 16; after about a year, he dissolved the band and formed Death. After a lot of members were fired and hired by Schuldiner, the band's first album, ''Scream Bloody Gore'' (1987) was released. It is considered a landmark album of the genre, pretty much starting the trend for gory lyrics and brutality. Eventually, though, more "brutal" bands such as Deicide and Morbid Angel came along and out-brutalised Death. So, rather than up the heaviness, Schuldiner continued to grow musically, eventually heading in a more [[ProgressiveMetal progressive]] direction starting with the album ''Human''. Their transformation into a [[ProgressiveDeathMetal progressive/technical death metal]] band was one of the things that kickstarted that subgenre, along with the bands Music/{{Atheist}} and {{Cynic}}.

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Initially, Chuck Schuldiner formed the band Mantas at the age of 16; after about a year, he dissolved the band and formed Death. After a lot of members were fired and hired by Schuldiner, the band's first album, ''Scream Bloody Gore'' (1987) was released. It is considered a landmark album of the genre, pretty much starting the trend for gory lyrics and brutality. Eventually, though, more "brutal" bands such as Deicide and Morbid Angel came along and out-brutalised Death. So, rather than up the heaviness, Schuldiner continued to grow musically, eventually heading in a more [[ProgressiveMetal progressive]] direction starting with the album ''Human''. Their transformation into a [[ProgressiveDeathMetal progressive/technical death metal]] band was one of the things that kickstarted that subgenre, along with the bands Music/{{Atheist}} and {{Cynic}}.
Music/{{Cynic}}.



Schuldiner was also one of two guitarists for Control Denied, a progressive metal band, which is considered the continuation of Death. In fact, many of the tracks on Death's final album ''Sound of Perseverence'' were originally intended to be Control Denied songs, but Schuldiner caved to [[ExecutiveMeddling studio pressure]] and used them for a final Death album instead. He intended to disband Death, at least temporarily, to focus on Control Denied, but [[AuthorExistenceFailure his long illness]] ended that plan.

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Schuldiner was also one of two guitarists for Control Denied, a progressive metal band, which is considered the continuation of Death. In fact, many of the tracks on Death's final album ''Sound ''The Sound of Perseverence'' Perseverance'' were originally intended to be Control Denied songs, but Schuldiner caved to [[ExecutiveMeddling studio pressure]] and used them for a final Death album instead. He intended to disband Death, at least temporarily, to focus on Control Denied, but [[AuthorExistenceFailure his long illness]] ended that plan.
12th Mar '16 5:35:28 PM Metalhead14
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* JerkAss: Kam Lee. Between numerous tales of his egocentric, unprofessional, and incredibly unpleasant demeanor and his habit of doing nothing but slamming people in interviews in an incredibly crude, vulgar, and immature manner, Lee's name has been synonymous with "asshole" for a long time. His enmity with Chuck is legendary, but he was burning bridges with others well after he left Death. He has gotten a ''tad'' better over the years, though.

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* JerkAss: Kam Lee. Between numerous tales of his egocentric, unprofessional, and incredibly unpleasant demeanor and his habit of doing nothing but slamming people in interviews in an incredibly crude, vulgar, and immature manner, Lee's name has been synonymous with "asshole" for a long time. His enmity with Chuck is legendary, but he was burning bridges with others well after he left Death. He While he has gotten a ''tad'' better over the years, though. with age, it's not so much because he changed his ways significantly but more because he's become self-aware of his personality.
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