History MotiveDecay / WesternAnimation

16th Dec '17 5:35:55 AM SolidSonicTH
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* At first, it seems Wile E. Coyote of ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' wants to eat the Roadrunner. Typical predator/prey relationship. But, some of the things Wile E. plans (poisoning, exploding, etc.) would make the Roadrunner inedible had they worked. At some point, his motivation became making that one, single, bird, DEAD. Lampshaded in one short where he actually succeeds in capturing the Roadrunner but then holds up a pair of signs questioning the audience on what they expected from him next.

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* At first, it seems Wile E. Coyote of ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' wants to eat the Roadrunner. Typical predator/prey relationship. But, some of the things Wile E. plans (poisoning, exploding, etc.) would make the Roadrunner inedible had they worked. At some point, his motivation became making that one, single, bird, DEAD. Lampshaded in one short where he actually succeeds in capturing the Roadrunner but then holds up a pair of signs questioning the audience on what they expected from him next.
16th Dec '17 5:34:12 AM SolidSonicTH
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* At first, it seems Wile E. Coyote of ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' wants to eat the Roadrunner. Typical predator/prey relationship. But, some of the things Wile E. plans (poisoning, exploding, etc.) would make the Roadrunner inedible had they worked. At some point, his motivation became making that one, single, bird, DEAD.

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* At first, it seems Wile E. Coyote of ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' wants to eat the Roadrunner. Typical predator/prey relationship. But, some of the things Wile E. plans (poisoning, exploding, etc.) would make the Roadrunner inedible had they worked. At some point, his motivation became making that one, single, bird, DEAD. Lampshaded in one short where he actually succeeds in capturing the Roadrunner but then holds up a pair of signs questioning the audience on what they expected from him next.
28th Nov '17 1:06:45 PM DaibhidC
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** Non-villainous example with Candace. Her initial desire to bust her brothers is because she wishes them to be normal. Sometimes, however, her busting obsession comes to the level where Candace is just downright mean, trying to bust them even for crazy ideas that aren't at the level of danger, or going out of her way to yell at them before they've even done anything at all.

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** Non-villainous example with Candace. Her initial desire to bust her brothers is because she wishes them to be normal. Sometimes, however, her busting obsession comes to the level where Candace is just downright mean, trying to bust them even for crazy ideas that aren't at the level of danger, or going out of her way to yell at them before they've even done anything at all. Or, on at least one occasion, getting worked up because they ''weren't'' doing anything crazy, and insisting they did something so she could try to bust them for it.
17th Jun '17 10:19:46 AM Vox
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** [[MonsterClown Zombozo]] was originally portrayed as a EmotionEater who fed on people's happiness. This is entirely dropped when he returns in ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', and replaced by him trying to take RevengeByProxy on Ben, which to some extent made sense (after all, Ben did ruin his business in his first appearance). Comes ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', he is introduced as robbing a brain bank for no apparent reason. A later episode ''kinda'' rerails him by having him trying to restaure his power by eating emotions again, only with fear instead of joy.

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** [[MonsterClown Zombozo]] was originally portrayed as a EmotionEater who fed on people's happiness. This is entirely dropped when he returns in ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', and replaced by him trying to take RevengeByProxy on Ben, which to some extent made sense (after all, Ben did ruin his business in his first appearance). Comes ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', he is introduced as robbing a brain bank for no apparent reason. A later episode ''kinda'' rerails him by having him trying to restaure restore his power by eating emotions again, only with fear instead of joy.
14th Mar '17 11:15:35 AM AdamC
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** The Fire Nation also suffers from motive decay over the course of the [[HopelessWar 100 year war]] - when the war began, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Fire Lord Sozin's]] goal was to [[WhiteMansBurden "share the Fire Nation's greatness with the rest of the world"]]. By the time the show starts, that's devolved into DespotismJustifiesTheMeans.

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** The Fire Nation also suffers from motive decay over the course of the [[HopelessWar 100 year war]] - when the war began, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Fire Lord Sozin's]] goal was to [[WhiteMansBurden "share the Fire Nation's greatness with the rest of the world"]]. By the time the show starts, that's devolved into DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. Both the Dai Li and the Fire Nation's cases can be justified with the fact that the MotiveDecay occurred over several generations. Fire Lord Sozin ''started'' the 100 Year War but was long dead by the time it ended; Fire Lord Ozai and all other members of the Fire Nation's population (both civilian and military) were born when the war was already in full swing and grew up hearing propaganda justifying it.



** The worst example is probably Clayface, who started out with the goal of getting revenge on Roland Daggett for causing his transformation, and in his second appearance was motivated by trying to get back to normal, both of which are sympathetic motivations that make perfect sense. In ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries The New Batman Adventures]]'', however, he had also become a petty thief.
** He returned in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague however and only joined Grodd's group because Grodd promised him a cure.

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** The worst example is probably Clayface, who started out with the goal of getting revenge on Roland Daggett for causing his transformation, and in his second appearance was motivated by trying to get back to normal, both of which are sympathetic motivations that make perfect sense. In ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries The New Batman Adventures]]'', however, he had also become a petty thief.
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thief. He returned in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague however and only joined Grodd's group because Grodd promised him a cure.
14th Nov '16 9:30:12 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The Fire Nation also suffers from in-universe motive decay over the course of the [[HopelessWar 100 year war]] - when the war began, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Fire Lord Sozin's]] goal was to [[WhiteMansBurden "share the Fire Nation's greatness with the rest of the world"]]. By the time the show starts, that's devolved into DespotismJustifiesTheMeans.

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** The Fire Nation also suffers from in-universe motive decay over the course of the [[HopelessWar 100 year war]] - when the war began, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Fire Lord Sozin's]] goal was to [[WhiteMansBurden "share the Fire Nation's greatness with the rest of the world"]]. By the time the show starts, that's devolved into DespotismJustifiesTheMeans.



* An in-universe example from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''. Hiroshi Sato joins the Equalists because a group of firebending criminals killed his wife. He screams this at his daughter during a fight. Asami retorts that he doesn't even love his wife anymore, all he has is hatred. Hiroshi then moves to do what looks like killing his own daughter.

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* An in-universe example from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''. Hiroshi Sato from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' joins the Equalists because a group of firebending criminals killed his wife. He screams this at his daughter during a fight. Asami retorts that he doesn't even love his wife anymore, all he has is hatred. Hiroshi then moves to do what looks like killing his own daughter.
22nd Sep '16 8:31:35 PM nombretomado
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** [[MonsterClown Zombozo]] was originally portrayed as a EmotionEater who fed on people's happiness. This is entirely dropped when he returns in ''UltimateAlien'', and replaced by him trying to take RevengeByProxy on Ben, which to some extent made sense (after all, Ben did ruin his business in his first appearance). Comes ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', he is introduced as robbing a brain bank for no apparent reason. A later episode ''kinda'' rerails him by having him trying to restaure his power by eating emotions again, only with fear instead of joy.

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** [[MonsterClown Zombozo]] was originally portrayed as a EmotionEater who fed on people's happiness. This is entirely dropped when he returns in ''UltimateAlien'', ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', and replaced by him trying to take RevengeByProxy on Ben, which to some extent made sense (after all, Ben did ruin his business in his first appearance). Comes ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', he is introduced as robbing a brain bank for no apparent reason. A later episode ''kinda'' rerails him by having him trying to restaure his power by eating emotions again, only with fear instead of joy.
22nd Sep '16 8:26:08 PM nombretomado
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** Inverted with Charmcaster, whose motivations in the original show didn't seem to go further than getting more power and rivalry with Gwen. ''Ben10UltimateAlien'' fleshed out her motivations by giving her a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds backstory and revealing she actually was looking for more power to overthrow the tyrant who took over her home dimension and resurrect her father. After she accomplished the former and the latter proved impossible, she stopped being a villain and started going toward TrueNeutral.

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** Inverted with Charmcaster, whose motivations in the original show didn't seem to go further than getting more power and rivalry with Gwen. ''Ben10UltimateAlien'' ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' fleshed out her motivations by giving her a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds backstory and revealing she actually was looking for more power to overthrow the tyrant who took over her home dimension and resurrect her father. After she accomplished the former and the latter proved impossible, she stopped being a villain and started going toward TrueNeutral.



** [[MonsterClown Zombozo]] was originally portrayed as a EmotionEater who fed on people's happiness. This is entirely dropped when he returns in UltimateAlien, and replaced by him trying to take RevengeByProxy on Ben, which to some extent made sense (after all, Ben did ruin his business in his first appearance). Comes ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', he is introduced as robbing a brain bank for no apparent reason. A later episode ''kinda'' rerails him by having him trying to restaure his power by eating emotions again, only with fear instead of joy.

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** [[MonsterClown Zombozo]] was originally portrayed as a EmotionEater who fed on people's happiness. This is entirely dropped when he returns in UltimateAlien, ''UltimateAlien'', and replaced by him trying to take RevengeByProxy on Ben, which to some extent made sense (after all, Ben did ruin his business in his first appearance). Comes ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', he is introduced as robbing a brain bank for no apparent reason. A later episode ''kinda'' rerails him by having him trying to restaure his power by eating emotions again, only with fear instead of joy.
7th Sep '16 4:07:38 PM ShorinBJ
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* ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' averts this with most of its cartoonish super villains, but with Bushroot it follows this trope to hilt. Bushroot started his life of villainy to get revenge on the scientists who mocked him and destroyed his inventions and any chance with the woman he longed for. Some of his solo acts are committed in-line with his misunderstood lonely madman personality, such as trying to create sapient plants, but others are just plain supervillainy, like growing money to steal more money. Whenever he's teamed up with the [[FiveBadBand Fiendish Five]], or just partnering with another villain, any good side goes away completely (which does make sense if you think about it, as if he's now got a villain friend, he's not going to risk losing them by showing his softer side). Quackerjack, on a lower level, switches from trying to rebuild his toy empire/getting revenge on the toys/businesses who drove him out of business, to just wanting to commit random acts of crime. Then again, he's insane.

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* ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' averts this with most of its cartoonish super villains, but with Bushroot it follows this trope to the hilt. Bushroot started his life of villainy to get revenge on the scientists who mocked him and destroyed his inventions and any chance with the woman he longed for. Some of his solo acts are committed in-line with his misunderstood lonely madman personality, such as trying to create sapient plants, but others are just plain supervillainy, like growing money to steal more money. Whenever he's teamed up with the [[FiveBadBand Fiendish Five]], or just partnering with another villain, any good side goes away completely (which does make sense if you think about it, as if he's now got a villain friend, he's not going to risk losing them by showing his softer side). Quackerjack, on a lower level, switches from trying to rebuild his toy empire/getting revenge on the toys/businesses who drove him out of business, to just wanting to commit random acts of crime. Then again, he's insane.



** Xanatos invoked this trope, only to subvert it; a plan to get revenge on the Gargoyles for getting in his way in the past turns out to be nothing but a smokescreen to get his lover sprung from prison. As he tells Fox, "Revenge is a sucker's game." He firmly believes in leaving the past in the past and focusing on goals for the future, which in his case involve obtaining immortality, or sometimes just good old money and power.



* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'': "Mathter and Fervent" presented us with The Mathter; he began by terrorizing Go City with vaporizing weapons because he was refused funding for his "unethical mathematical experiments". But after Kim and Hego beat up his flabby henchmen, he decides to make Ron (who has done nothing whatsoever at this point) his personal archenemy for no apparent reason in less than two minutes after they first meet. That's got to be some sort of record. He even goes to the extreme of erasing Ron's existence from [[EverythingIsOnline all the computer records]] and then tries to off Ron in person for good measure resulting in Ron being zapped with a ray that turns him into an "Anti-Matter Boy" who disintegrates anything he touches. Wow. Talk about DisproportionateRetribution.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'': "Mathter and Fervent" presented us with The Mathter; he began by terrorizing Go City with vaporizing weapons because he was refused funding for his "unethical mathematical experiments". But after Kim and Hego beat up his flabby henchmen, he decides to make Ron (who has done nothing whatsoever at this point) his personal archenemy for no apparent reason in less than two minutes after they first meet. That's got to be some sort of record. He even goes to the extreme of erasing Ron's existence from [[EverythingIsOnline all the computer records]] and then tries to off Ron in person for good measure measure, resulting in Ron being zapped with a ray that turns him into an "Anti-Matter Boy" who disintegrates anything he touches. Wow. Talk about DisproportionateRetribution.



* An in-universe example from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''. Hiroshi Sato joins the Equalists because a group of firebending criminals killed his wife. He screams this at his daughter during a fight. Asami retorts that he doesn't even love his wife any more, all he has is hatred. Hiroshi then moves to do what looks like killing his own daughter.

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* An in-universe example from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''. Hiroshi Sato joins the Equalists because a group of firebending criminals killed his wife. He screams this at his daughter during a fight. Asami retorts that he doesn't even love his wife any more, anymore, all he has is hatred. Hiroshi then moves to do what looks like killing his own daughter.
5th Sep '16 8:18:48 PM Jacob175
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** Even Ra's al Ghul, whom Batman credits as having been his most dangerous adversary, gets hit with this. He's first introduced as a DiabolicalMastermind whose goal is to wipe out 90% of the human race to save the planet, with Batman defeating him and saving the entire world in an epic 2-parter. ''Every single one'' of his subsequent appearances involve some scheme of his to extend his life due to his Lazarus Pit-derived immortality beginning to wear off after so many years, and he never overtly makes another attempt at his original goal of destroying human civilization.

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** Even Ra's al Ghul, whom Batman credits as having been his most dangerous adversary, gets hit with this. He's first introduced as a DiabolicalMastermind whose goal is to wipe out 90% of the human race to save the planet, with Batman defeating him and saving the entire world in an epic 2-parter. ''Every single one'' of his subsequent appearances involve some scheme of his to extend his life due to his Lazarus Pit-derived immortality beginning to wear off after so many years, and he never overtly makes another attempt at his original goal of destroying human civilization. The closest he came to returning to his goal was the "Near Apocalypse of '09", which required the whole League to stop and ended with Batman kicking his butt so hard, it took until ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' for him to recover, but even then, that happened off-screen.


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** As part of the Aligned continuity, the Decepticons had decayed their motive a long time ago since ''VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron''. Originally meant to protest the stifling caste system and societal decay of Cybertron, millions of years of war caused them to lose sight of their goals and focus solely on conquest and Autobot destruction. At that point, CartoonishSupervillainy was the only place left to go. To Megatron's credit, [[spoiler:he did at least finally realize he was the bad guy and ended the Decepticons in the GrandFinale movie.]]
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