History MotiveDecay / AnimeAndManga

17th Oct '17 8:00:05 AM DVB
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** Brock's life goal was to be a great Pokémon breeder. Unfortunately, the CasanovaWannabe part of his characterization [[{{Flanderization}} consumed the character]]. He finally left the show becoming a Pokémon '''doctor'''.

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** Brock's life goal was to be a great Pokémon breeder. Unfortunately, the CasanovaWannabe part of his characterization [[{{Flanderization}} consumed the character]]. He finally left the show becoming a Pokémon '''doctor'''. At the same time, he was usually shown taking care of Pokemon when need be and already took care of his younger siblings. [[FridgeBrilliance Perhaps he found a new calling.]]



** Also, Ash's goal was ToBeAMaster; that is, to become the world's greatest Pokémon Master (a Pokémon Master being a trainer who is an official part of the Pokémon League, though exactly how one achieves that was always vague). Nowadays, this goal is barely referenced, and Ash seems to be going around fighting Pokémon battles for the heck of it. In Season 9, he was even offered the position of Frontier Brain, which would probably make him a Pokémon Master, but he turned it down.

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** Also, Ash's goal was ToBeAMaster; that is, to become the world's greatest Pokémon Master (a Pokémon Master being a trainer who is an official part of the Pokémon League, though exactly how one achieves that was always vague). Nowadays, this goal is barely referenced, and Ash seems to be going around fighting Pokémon battles for the heck of it. In Season 9, he was even offered the position of Frontier Brain, which would probably make him a Pokémon Master, but he turned it down. At the same time, we've never heard how '''Ash''' himself defines a Pokemon Master. Alternately, perhaps he feels he hasn't become one yet, which is why he continues traveling.
17th Oct '17 7:57:56 AM DVB
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* [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]] starts out trying to become the best damn leader in the world, but it starts to go wrong when he faces Envy, [[spoiler:who killed Hughes]]. Fortunately, Hawkeye helps him out. [[spoiler:With death threats.]]
** A better example would be the BigBad -- he originally started out as [[spoiler:a lab experiment who couldn't survive outside of the tiny flask it was created in, and caused the end of an ancient civilization to gain a human body of its own]]. After that, it starts an elaborate AncientConspiracy, sealing itself in a dark underground hideout, preparing for the day it can [[spoiler:absorb God]]. Van Hohenheim even points out that it's essentially back where it started.

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* [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]] starts out trying pursues his goal of becoming Fuhrer so he can fix Amestris' democracy and return power to become the best damn leader in the world, but it starts to go wrong people as atonement for himself and what they did with Ishval. However, he nearly loses sight of this when he faces Envy, fights Envy [[spoiler:who killed Hughes]]. Fortunately, While he doesn't become obsessed over it, Ed points out that he would fail in his goal if he were to become consumed with rage, something that '''Scar''' points out as well. Hawkeye helps is the one to bring back him out. [[spoiler:With death threats.back to senses [[spoiler: by threatening him and herself.]]
** A better example would be [[PlayingWithATrope PlayedWith]] regarding the BigBad -- he originally started out as [[spoiler:a lab experiment who couldn't survive outside of the tiny flask it was created in, and caused thus just wanted to be free from it. It accomplished this goal by sacrificing the end of an ancient civilization to gain city's population for form a human body of its own]].for itself and immortality for him and Hoenheim, who was born from his blood]]. After that, it starts an elaborate AncientConspiracy, sealing itself in a dark underground hideout, preparing for the day it can [[spoiler:absorb God]]. Van Hohenheim even points out that it's essentially back where At the same time, the BigBad just sees ''that'' goal as the next step of their original goal. It just went from being [[spoiler: free from its flask to free from any constraints, including what it started.called God.]]
18th Jul '17 8:31:38 AM superboy313
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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'':

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** Like his anime counterpart, Zamasu in the ''Dragon Ball Super'' manga started off as a KnightTemplar who saw mortals as evil and wanted to destroy them all to create a perfect world. But whereas anime Zamasu retained his vision and still revered the gods [[spoiler: even after killing them]], manga Zamasu lost all of his noble intentions and wanted to become the TopGod just for the sake of it and denounced his fellow gods as beneath him.
15th Dec '16 6:48:41 PM Doug86
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25th Apr '16 7:56:18 AM GordyTepig
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* Divine of ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'' starts out as some sort of VisionaryVillain, being the leader of a movement giving shelter to the repudiated Psychic Duelists, wanting to form an army with them to take revenge on all the people hating and shunning them, making the world a better place for Psychic Duelists. Though his plans got foiled by his sudden death. But [[AssPull miraculously]] he returned and CharacterDerailment did take the best of him. While he was always close to the MoralEventHorizon, but also had his goals and clearly shared more with Aki than just [[MoreThanMindControl mind control]], he suddenly forgot all about his earlier intentions, turned into a psychopathic dumbass, causing his own death with the most ridiculous EngineeredPublicConfession and got eaten by a giant lizard just in time to exculpate Aki from all guilt and before he was about to [[NotTooDeadToSaveTheDay kill the main character]]. However, Divine is subject to a bit of AlternateCharacterInterpretation as it's hard to discern where his [[BitchInSheepsClothing facade of geniality]] ends and his true feelings begin due to his being such a ManipulativeBastard.
11th Apr '16 7:41:54 AM XTC
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** Also, Wing Saber in ''Anime/TransformersEnergon''. After his buddy Padlock is killed by Shockblast, Wing Saber swears he will have justice. Kind of vanishes after they capture Shockblast and he then escapes.
** Also, Kicker in ''Anime/TransformersEnergon'' (okay, let's just say that everybody in ''Energon'' just wanders aimlessly through the show, not really knowing what they're doing or why). In Kicker's case, his hatred of the Transformers just quietly vanishes.
11th Apr '16 6:59:25 AM XTC
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* Rodimus in ''Anime/TransformersEnergon''. He had his own agenda and came into conflict with Optimus Prime, but mere episodes later was just one of the soldiers doing what he's told -- in spite of being of equivalent experience and reputation as Optimus Prime (in the Japanese version, he's Rodimus Convoy, holding the same rank as Grand Convoy).
5th Apr '16 1:42:04 AM Nintendoman01
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** Van Zant, the AxCrazy gunman from the Buu Saga who goes on a killing spree on his own during Majin Buu's rampage. His initial reason for doing so was [[ApocalypseAnarchy because he thinks that since Buu's going to destroy the world anyway, he can do whatever he wants]]. Eventually, this leads to him trying to kill Buu himself because he wants to keep killing people.
21st Mar '16 4:05:44 PM Vir
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* This sort of thing happened across international lines as part of Creator/FourKidsEntertainment's dub of ''Anime/YuGiOh''. They usually played down the sympathy-inducing backstories of the villains and made them more evil. Pegasus' goal was the same (to bring back his lover Cecilia) but the methods were more ruthless. In the original, he needed to defeat Yugi so that he could gain control of Kaibacorp's technology and create a ''hologram'' of Cecilia to live with. In the dub, he wanted Yugi's Millennium Puzzle and all Millennium Items so that he could bring Cecilia's soul back and infuse it into the hologram. It's said in the dub that in doing so, he could inadvertently destroy the world. Although probably unintentional, [[{{Woolseyism}} this motive shift actually makes sense in the long run]], as the seven items together DO open the door to the afterlife (where Pegasus could get Cecilia's soul) and also unleash the power of Zorc Necrophades into the world, which could indeed destroy it against Pegasus's wishes (this is Yami Bakura's intentional goal.)

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* This sort of thing happened across international lines as part of Creator/FourKidsEntertainment's dub of ''Anime/YuGiOh''. ''Anime/YuGiOh'' They usually played down the sympathy-inducing backstories of the villains and made them more evil. Pegasus' goal was the same (to bring back his lover Cecilia) but the methods were more ruthless. In the original, he needed to defeat Yugi so that he could gain control of Kaibacorp's technology and create a ''hologram'' of Cecilia to live with. In the dub, he wanted Yugi's Millennium Puzzle and all Millennium Items so that he could bring Cecilia's soul back and infuse it into the hologram. It's said in the dub that in doing so, he could inadvertently destroy the world. Although probably unintentional, [[{{Woolseyism}} this motive shift actually makes sense in the long run]], as the seven items together DO open the door to the afterlife (where Pegasus could get Cecilia's soul) and also unleash the power of Zorc Necrophades into the world, which could indeed destroy it against Pegasus's wishes (this is Yami Bakura's intentional goal.)
21st Mar '16 4:02:16 PM Vir
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* This sort of thing happened across international lines as part of FourKidsEntertainment's dub of ''Anime/YuGiOh''. They usually played down the sympathy-inducing backstories of the villains and made them more evil. Pegasus' goal was the same (to bring back his lover Cecilia) but the methods were more ruthless. In the original, he needed to defeat Yugi so that he could gain control of Kaibacorp's technology and create a ''hologram'' of Cecilia to live with. In the dub, he wanted Yugi's Millennium Puzzle and all Millennium Items so that he could bring Cecilia's soul back and infuse it into the hologram. It's said in the dub that in doing so, he could inadvertently destroy the world. Although probably unintentional, [[{{Woolseyism}} this motive shift actually makes sense in the long run]], as the seven items together DO open the door to the afterlife (where Pegasus could get Cecilia's soul) and also unleash the power of Zorc Necrophades into the world, which could indeed destroy it against Pegasus's wishes (this is Yami Bakura's intentional goal.)

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* This sort of thing happened across international lines as part of FourKidsEntertainment's Creator/FourKidsEntertainment's dub of ''Anime/YuGiOh''. They usually played down the sympathy-inducing backstories of the villains and made them more evil. Pegasus' goal was the same (to bring back his lover Cecilia) but the methods were more ruthless. In the original, he needed to defeat Yugi so that he could gain control of Kaibacorp's technology and create a ''hologram'' of Cecilia to live with. In the dub, he wanted Yugi's Millennium Puzzle and all Millennium Items so that he could bring Cecilia's soul back and infuse it into the hologram. It's said in the dub that in doing so, he could inadvertently destroy the world. Although probably unintentional, [[{{Woolseyism}} this motive shift actually makes sense in the long run]], as the seven items together DO open the door to the afterlife (where Pegasus could get Cecilia's soul) and also unleash the power of Zorc Necrophades into the world, which could indeed destroy it against Pegasus's wishes (this is Yami Bakura's intentional goal.)
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