History MoralEventHorizon / AnimeAndManga

8th Nov '17 12:25:11 AM InsidiousUnicorn
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* Dio Brando from ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' is well known for crossing the MEH over and over and over again, his very first time was at the age of 12, when he poisoned his father in a regular basis, driving him to death in a slow and painful way, as the series progresses he just gets worse and worse, even killing hundreds of people just to feed himself or for his own amusement.
** Other villains from Jojo such as Kira Yoshikage (part 4) or Diavolo (part 5) are also pretty fond on crossing the line from time to time, with deeds such as killing women just to fullfil a hand fetish, or kill anybody who sees your face.

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* Dio Brando from ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' is well known for crossing the MEH over and over and over again, his very first time was at the age of 12, such as when he poisoned his father in a regular basis, driving him to death in a slow forcefully kisses Jojo's friend Erina and painful way, as strikes her shortly after and he then [[KickTheDog burns Jojo's dog Danny to death]] out of spite for loosing a fight with Jojo when he found out. As the series progresses he Dio just gets worse and worse, even killing hundreds of people just to feed himself or and [[CrossesTheLineTwice having a freshly-vampirized mother eat her own baby for his own amusement.
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** Other villains from Jojo such as Kira Yoshikage (part 4) or Diavolo (part 5) are also pretty fond on crossing the line from time to time, with deeds such as killing women just to fullfil a hand fetish, or kill anybody who sees your face.face because of severe paranoia.
26th Oct '17 11:16:06 AM VisitorAlex
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* ''MoralEventHorizon/OnePiece''



* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', the World Government [[NiceJobBreakingItHerod re-enacts the Massacre of the Innocents]] [[spoiler: to find the child of Gold Roger.]] That and the following below, will probably earn what should be the good guys in the story, a likely overthrow [[spoiler: which is probably going to happen if the series has a happy ending.]]
** "[[FelonyMisdemeanor Normally, carpenters are not charged for the ships they construct, but this is in regards to the Pirate King. This is a special case. All those who supported his piracy, even a little, will be seen as dangerous.]]"
*** Ohara's destruction for just having one person almost discovering the Void History.
*** Keeping quiet of the toxic nature of the Amber Lead in Flevance just to make more money off of the mining industry, and when a epidemic is spread they leave them to die, and slaughtering those who tried to escape. Let's face it, the higher ups have crossed the line so many times that you can write a thesis on it.
** We also have the World Nobles. They're descended from the founders of the World Government, which gives them ''carte blanche'' to treat their lessers as they see fit. They are introduced to the readers when two of them are seen sneering at a slave who was wounded after trying to escape from them, [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown kicking him and shooting him several times]]. Then one of them commented how his captain collection was now ruined and tells the other that she's getting a ''child'' slave, not the giant slave she wanted next.
** The third one was seen riding a man and kicking him the head for not going fast enough. When a doctor and a nurse were trying to get to the hospital to bring in an injured man when they should be bowing to him, the World Noble simply [[KickTheDog kicked the injured man]] to the ground. When he saw that [[HospitalHottie the nurse was a beauty]], he promptly named her his newest wife, and when her fiancee stood up to him, he shot him and dragged the crying nurse away.
*** The audience (excluding the pirates) at the slave auction were just as bad. They started laughing at Hachi and saying how thankful they were that someone had shot the monster.
** [[GeneralRipper Vice Admiral Onigumo]]. He has no problems about killing his subordinate and over a thousand other marines as long as he manages to kill the pirates.
** Admiral Akainu, in his ''debut'', orders the destruction of a civilian ship, all because it ''might'' just contain an escaped archaeologist. He would then show up later to execute a lowly mook who, after he saw how outclassed he was fighting with the upper class pirates and marines at Marineford, just wanted to go home and be with his family and tried to flee the battle.%% Please do not mention Akainu killing Ace on this page. It's a dubious claim to consider Akainu killing Ace to be crossing the Moral Event Horizon. Does it make fans sad? Yes. Does it make fans hate him more than if he just simply killed a mook for no reason, or even a whole ship of nameless people? Yes. But consider that unlike killing mister mook marine deserter, or destroying the evacuation ship on Ohara, killing pirates like Ace is in fact his JOB, and he did so in a BATTLE, and that should not be forgotten. Referencing his method of goading Ace into fighting by insulting his family is not enough to justify a crossing of the Moral Event Horizon.
** Captain Kuro spent year after year after year posing as a man named Klahadore and serving as the butler to Kaya, whose father had supposedly saved his life and let him work there. Since Kaya's father passed away, Kuro became the closest thing Kaya had to a father figure, and the two of them did many things together. Turns out, Kuro was biding his time all for the day when he could kill Kaya and claim her inheritance money, which he'd use to retire from piracy for good. The real sick part? Killing Kaya wasn't truly necessary - Kuro wanted to do it for peace of mind, because he'd secretly hated Kaya all these years, finding tending to her whims to be degrading! And he tells this all right to Kaya's face when confronted about it, leading to a big BreakTheCutie moment that rightfully enrages Usopp. It's no wonder Kuro is deemed irredeemable.
** Arlong after we find out that he killed Nami's adoptive mother for not having the money to pay a toll that he just imposed on the town, it looks as if he's at least willing to let Nami work to buy her town back. So he lets her join his crew and work tirelessly for ''8 years'' to earn the 100 million berries that she needs to meet his price by going out and robbing pirates on the side. And then, when she only has one voyage's worth of money left to earn, he ''sends a corrupt Naval officer to steal all of the money she worked for eight years to collect''. And when she confronts him about it, he has the ''gall'' to simply [[SlasherSmile smile]] at her and ask "What promise did I break?". And then? He ''laughs right in her face''. He later reveals that he had no intention of letting her go, and would only do so after she had drawn the map for the whole world. And considering his hatred of humans, [[FridgeHorror if Luffy hadn't done anything]], Nami would be let free [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness of her association to the Arlong Pirates]].
*** This becomes apparent with Hody Jones, a member of the BigBadDuumvirate in the Fishman Island arc and Arlong's would-be successor. He's an even bigger racist and more merciless fisherman than Arlong ever was. He has [[spoiler:the queen promoting peace killed]] and frames a human in order to cover his tracks. He planned to make a Fascist state out of his home country in order to spread these racist ideals and frequently uses his crew as meat shields (Where Arlong's love for his fellow Fishmen was his one redeeming quality). Because Hody despises humans ''and'' Fishmen who have compassion for them, after he [[spoiler:takes over the kingdom and has King Neptune hostage]], he decides to start killing [[spoiler:all those who signed the peace petition that Queen Otohime had worked for. Judging from her success]], he's willing to kill thousands. Finally, [[spoiler:has '''NO''' reason for doing this other than blind racism]].
*** [[StalkerWithACrush Vander Decken IX]], the other half of Fishman Island's BigBadDuumvirate, is no better than Hody. For one thing, he willingly partnered with Hody to overthrow Fishman Island's monarchy, with the side benefit of getting Shirahoshi for himself... and when Hachi (a former ally of Arlong, who Hody held in high regard) tried to persuade them to call off their plans, what was Decken's response? [[spoiler:He used his Devil Fruit ability to impale Hachi with arrows to the point of near-death]]. Oh, and [[spoiler:his willingness to ''flatten Fishman Island with a big frickin' boat'' just because he's a StalkerWithACrush and Shirahoshi rejected him]].
** Following the Paramount War, a flashback shows this to be true for ''practically the entire city of Goa'': They arrange a pirate crew to burn down the massive junkyard next to the city ''and everyone living in it'', as the sight of refuse and poverty could offend some visiting Celestial Dragons. If this wasn't enough, they also trap the pirate crew in the firestorm outside the city walls, so they don't have to award them the noble titles they promised. They talk about all this as if it were a pleasant spring cleaning.
** For the longest time, even after it was revealed they ordered Ohara burned to the ground, some fans were willing to give [[GreaterScopeVillain the Five Elder Stars]] a pass. After all, they were trying to protect the world from ancient weapons of mass destruction. Then came the ending of the Paramount War, in which they order the escape of many vicious criminals from Impel Down covered up, and it became apparent that they're more concerned with their own power and image than protecting the world. This one was so bad, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Sengoku and Garp]] [[DefectorFromDecadence resigned on the spot rather than work for a government that would condone such things]].
** In the Punk Hazard arc seem to show Caesar Clown ''gleefully'' doing his latest heinous actions. That subordinate of yours that sang praises of you helping prisoners/ex-pirates like him? [[spoiler: Kill him, he's just getting in the way.]] Those giant children found in your labs? [[spoiler: Hey, turns out you've drugged them (in the form of candy) to make sure that they don't leave their island. Also, their addiction to said drug causes them to go berserk when they don't have access to it. Then there's the fact they weren't giant when he first kidnapped them. And oh golly, it turns out that if they keep on using them, they'll end up dying in 5 years and he wouldn't bat an eye]].
*** He's also been [[spoiler:developing horrific chemical [[WeaponOfMassDestruction nuclear level bombs]] on Punk Hazard, which he's planning on selling to the highest bidder. One of which he's going to test by deploying on Punk Hazard, murdering everyone who isn't in his HQ.]]
*** What Caesar does to Brownbeard is horrible. [[spoiler: He admits to causing the explosion that ruined his crew, ''while'' making it seem that the latter was acting crazy and pretending to be the good guy, causing his crew to turn against him]].
*** Once he is cornered, he uses the powers of his Gas-Gas Fruit to [[spoiler:merge with the poisonous gas to invoke a OneWingedAngel, and demonstrates it by killing his own minions who still have faith in him]].
*** Even after Luffy defeats him '''He crosses even further than he already has.''' Seeing that he is unable to move and likely to die, he tries to [[spoiler:[[TakingYouWithMe kill Smoker, via having his heart in his possession through Law's tradeoff, while the latter is completely unaware]]]]. Fortunately for the intended victim, Law anticipated that Caesar would pull something like this [[spoiler:and actually gave Caesar his secretary Monet's heart instead.]]
** What about [[MagnificentBastard Crocodile]]? He disgraced the reputation of both the [[PsychoForHire Seven Warlords of the Sea]] (whom he was a part of) and, partially, the World Government (whom said Warlords worked for) by creating the Baroque Works crime organization and invading the kingdom of Arabasta, one of the few kingdoms uninvolved in the pirate/World Government conflict (formerly) for kicks, and to get his one greedy hand on a legendary superweapon, Pluton; along the way, he [[KicktheDog kills]] some of Arabasta's most loyal soldiers, and actually manages to defeat [[TheHero Luffy]] in combat. For this Troper, Crocodile crossed the line when, after it was revealed that he had hidden a bomb in the city that would reduce it to a crater, despite becoming its new ruler at the time, and the heroes manage to [[HopeSpot find it]], it is discovered that it is a ''time bomb'' right near the end of its timer, meaning he had [[CrazyPrepared anticipated]] [[TheChessmaster that they would find it]] and made sure they would still explode even if they found it. The fact that the ones who found the bomb (the princess being one of them) went down on their knees in despair and shouted to the heavens what a monster he is should say it all. Oh and he kept on sending sand storms to Toto's village, and during his first bout with Luffy, he sends a massive sand tornado to finish him [[ForTheEvulz because Toto was being optimistic and Crocodile felt like punishing him]].
*** To put it in perspective, the next time Crocodile meets Luffy, in [[TheAlcatraz Impel Down]], even though he acts "slightly" civil towards his old enemy, CloudCuckooLander Luffy just looks at him in quiet disgust and, knowing better than to trust him, outright refuses to let him out of his jail cell, only doing so when he was [[EnemyMine out of any other options]] (he was trying to escape with his brother Ace).
** Donquixote Doflamingo always seemed to be a nasty character, but revelations during the Punk Hazard and Dressrosa arcs [[PetTheDog reveal that he does have genuine shared loyalty with his crew]] had redeemed him to an extent. Then we learned that during [[spoiler:his takeover of the Riku Kingdom, he not only blackmailed King Riku into giving him the wealth of the entire nation, but it was actually a ruse to literally manipulate the King with his String-String Fruit into slaughtering his own people, intending to portraying himself as their savior.]] Even In-Universe, learning the full truth of this even has [[TheStoic Nico Robin]], a character whose pragmatism would normally have her advise against fighting someone like Doflamingo, declare ThisIsUnforgivable.
** Byrrndi World from "3D2Y" has lost sight of the person he used to be, [[WeHaveReserves sees his subordinates as expendable]], [[BadBoss kills anyone who disobeys him or tries to leave]], and plans on using his ship's enormous cannon, originally intended as a deterrent against anyone who would come to fight him, to destroy Mariejois. But what really puts him over the line is [[spoiler:trying to kill his sickly older brother and MoralityPet when he tries to get him to see the error of his ways]].
** Z was trying to have the entire second half of the Grand Line explode into a fiery wasteland, killing thousands of civilians and marines in the process. Even Fleet Admiral Akainu thought he must be stopped at all costs.
** Vinsmoke Judge was a complete asshole from his very first apparition. He was shown as an even bigger asshole [[spoiler: as [[AbusiveParents he was revealed to be]] Sanji's ArchnemesisDad]], plus [[DarkAndTroubledPast the horrible circumstances]] that led to this and how [[spoiler: he only wants Sanji back to force him in an ArrangedMarriage]]. But what made all of this worse was TheReveal that [[spoiler: he experimented with Sanji ''and'' his quadruplet brothers (Ichiji, Niji and Yonji) ''when the four were still in their mother Sora's womb'', intending to make them Tykebomb {{super soldier}}s with zero empathy ''from before they were born''. The reason why [[TheUnfavorite he hates Sanji so much]] is that, thanks to a risky gambit from [[MamaBear Sora]], [[WhiteSheep he was the only one who escaped to this]].]]
** At this point it would probably be best to create an entier ''subpage'' just to list off the people who crossed the Moral Event Horizon, as the list will sure keep growing as the series goes on.
22nd Oct '17 2:37:02 PM nombretomado
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* [[spoiler: Grace O'Connor]] in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' has a number of candidates, with conducting painful, potentially instantly fatal, and certainly eventually fatal experiments [[spoiler: on a seven year old girl]] probably close to the top of the list. Made worse when they call the [[spoiler: little girl]] Subject [[spoiler: Fairy-Nine]] and FridgeLogic sets in with "Wait, what happened to [[spoiler: Fairies One through Eight?"]] ''Even then'' one of the drama {{CD}}s suggests an opening for redemption with [[spoiler: Grace when she realizes that in the ten years she spent practically raising that girl (whose name is Sheryl Nome) she's developed strong feelings for her, no longer just "Fairy-Nine" but "her little fairy." She decides that the feelings will get in the way of their plan, so she deletes them with cybernetics]] in one of the most subtle crossings of the MoralEventHorizon ever.

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* [[spoiler: Grace O'Connor]] in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' has a number of candidates, with conducting painful, potentially instantly fatal, and certainly eventually fatal experiments [[spoiler: on a seven year old girl]] probably close to the top of the list. Made worse when they call the [[spoiler: little girl]] Subject [[spoiler: Fairy-Nine]] and FridgeLogic sets in with "Wait, what happened to [[spoiler: Fairies One through Eight?"]] ''Even then'' one of the drama {{CD}}s UsefulNotes/{{CD}}s suggests an opening for redemption with [[spoiler: Grace when she realizes that in the ten years she spent practically raising that girl (whose name is Sheryl Nome) she's developed strong feelings for her, no longer just "Fairy-Nine" but "her little fairy." She decides that the feelings will get in the way of their plan, so she deletes them with cybernetics]] in one of the most subtle crossings of the MoralEventHorizon ever.
7th Oct '17 3:55:53 PM ReynTime250
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* In the CrapsaccharineWorld of ''Manga/MadeInAbyss'', many horrible things happen throughout the show but Bondrewd Lord of Dawn and his horrible experiments are the worst. [[spoiler:His first action is the Elevator scene which is where Bondrewd is forcing Mitty to take the 6th level curse (Which is BodyHorror incarnate) and make her suffer AFateWorseThanDeath while having Nanachi being ForcedToWatch, Bondrewd later decides to torture Mitty later on. Nanachi is later [[MercyKill forced to make Reg kill Mitty with the Incinerator]] so Mitty can't suffer anymore]].

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* In the CrapsaccharineWorld of ''Manga/MadeInAbyss'', many horrible things happen throughout the show but Bondrewd Lord of Dawn and his horrible experiments are the worst. [[spoiler:His first action is the Elevator scene which is where Bondrewd is forcing Mitty to take the 6th level curse (Which is BodyHorror incarnate) and make her suffer AFateWorseThanDeath while having Nanachi being ForcedToWatch, Bondrewd later decides to torture Mitty later on. Nanachi is later [[MercyKill forced to make Reg kill Mitty with the Incinerator]] so Mitty can't suffer anymore]]. It is considered one of the biggest MEH's in manga and anime history!
7th Oct '17 3:47:21 PM ReynTime250
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* In the CrapsaccharineWorld of ''Manga/MadeInAbyss'', many horrible things happen throughout the show but Bondrewd Lord of Dawn and his horrible experiments are the worst. [[spoiler:His first action is the Elevator scene which is where Bondrewd is forcing Mitty to take the 6th level curse (Which is BodyHorror incarnate) and make her suffer AFateWorseThanDeath while having Nanachi being ForcedToWatch, Bondrewd later decides to torture Mitty later on. Nanachi is later [[MercyKill forced to make Reg kill Mitty with the Incinerator]] so Mitty can't suffer anymore]].
19th Sep '17 10:29:16 AM rjd1922
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** It's a known fact that Envy was evil and would kill anyone if it's amusing or he's ordered to, but one of two scenes becomes his Moral Event Horizon crossing. For some, he irreparably crossed the line when he [[spoiler:killed Hughes]] after turning into [[spoiler: his wife Gracia]] to keep him from striking back. And if that didn't do it, there's the scene where he gleefully describes in the manga how he [[spoiler:started the Ishbalan war]] by turning into a war-opposing soldier and shooting an innocent child. His absolutely ''cheerful'' description of the events that happened after he shot the child, how it ruined the life of the soldier he turned himself into, and how humans are so easy to manipulate revealed him for the monster he really is. What he said got Ed so angry that he punched Envy in the face ''so hard'' that Envy's face had to regenerate immediately afterwards.

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** It's a known fact that Envy was evil and would kill anyone if it's amusing or he's ordered to, but one of two scenes becomes his Moral Event Horizon crossing. For some, he irreparably crossed the line when he [[spoiler:killed Hughes]] after turning into [[spoiler: his wife Gracia]] to keep him from striking back. And if that didn't do it, there's the scene where he gleefully describes in the manga how he [[spoiler:started the Ishbalan Ishvalan war]] by turning into a war-opposing soldier and shooting an innocent child. His absolutely ''cheerful'' description of the events that happened after he shot the child, how it ruined the life of the soldier he turned himself into, and how humans are so easy to manipulate revealed him for the monster he really is. What he said got Ed so angry that he punched Envy in the face ''so hard'' that Envy's face had to regenerate immediately afterwards.
19th Sep '17 10:25:49 AM rjd1922
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13th Sep '17 12:04:18 PM VisitorAlex
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* ''MoralEventHorizon/DragonBall''



* ''Franchise/DragonBall'': For a series known for its idealism, it has some of the most despicable villains in anime:
** Mercenary Tao crossed it for many when he killed Upa's father, Bora, for no particular reason. He then threatened Upa, saying he should be thankful that he's still alive. There is also the underlying fact that he had no problem taking a contract to kill a twelve years old boy, super-strong or not.
** Commander Red, when he fully admits using his army to gain the Dragon Balls so he can wish to be taller. The fact that his pettiness led to the deaths of not only his men, but countless of innocents who were just caught in the crossfire had many people [[KickTheSonOfABitch cheering when Officer Black put a bullet in his head]]. [[HarsherInHindsight There is also the extra bitterness of knowing that his actions are what leads to Dr. Gero actions]] in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.
** Officer Black goes too far after he decides to destroy the entire Red Ribbon Army base just so he can kill Goku. There were still many soldiers left on the base and [[{{Hypocrite}} this comes after he gets on Red for needlessly throwing away lives]].
** The Crane Hermit becomes completely irredeemable after he tries to murder his own students because they refused to kill an opponent who couldn't fight back.
** For some, the Pilaf gang freeing Demon King Piccolo from the rice cooker he was imprisoned in just show they can share in his conquest. Before that they had never done anything especially bad (except try to kill Goku and friends and they were laughably incompetent at doing so anyway).
** Vegeta crossed this when he murdered an entire Namekian village in cold-blood. Others think he crossed the line when he allowed himself to become a Majin and murdered thousands to provoke Goku to fight him.
** While we're on the subject of King Piccolo, it's impossible to know exactly ''when'' he crossed the line. His first rampage led to the deaths of millions of humans, including Master Roshi's teacher, and [[CorruptTheCutie corrupted the Crane Hermit]]. As soon as he is released, he sends Tambourine to murder all the martial artists in the world so no one can use the Evil Containment Wave on him again. He directly murders Chiaotzu and destroys Shenron so the Dragon Balls can't be used against him. He then takes over the world, frees all the prisoners, and abolished all laws so he can watch humanity tear itself apart. Even with all of that, he plans to have a lottery for thirty-six years where he will destroy one section of Earth.
** King Piccolo's son, Tambourine, crosses it when he kills Krillin and brags about it to Goku. He then goes on to murder at least fifty martial artists, including a scene in the anime where he murders King Chappa and all his students in cold-blood.
** While many of the villains do some pretty horrific things, Frieza may just top them all, between his genocide of nearly the entire Saiyan race along with his own loyal men begging to not to do it while they were there (and later, [[DeathIsCheap temporarily]], the entire Namekian race) and his murders of Dende and Krillin, the latter of which [[NiceJobFixingItVillain sets off Goku's Super Saiyan transformation]], [[LaserGuidedKarma leading to Frieza's undoing]]. The genocide of the Saiyans is especially horrible considering, [[AlwaysChaoticEvil while evil]], they were completely loyal to him, yet Frieza killed them anyway out of paranoia that they ''might'' rebel. Which ended up being a major SelfFulfillingProphecy.
** Frieza's [[CoDragons Co-Dragon]], Dodoria, crosses it when he kills Dende's brother, Cargo, in cold-blood. For some, he crosses it when he snaps Elder Moori's neck after he handed over the Dragon Ball.
** Cell crosses it daily with the absorption of innocent people, slowly absorbing Android 18, destroying populated islands, and having his clones beat up the Z fighters while looking cool, but he '''truly''' crosses it once he smashes Android 16's head, earning the beatdown he deserved from Gohan. To clarify, previously, any killings he had done and would do would be easily rendered mute with the Dragon Balls and all his actions were to achieve his objective or [[ForTheEvulz simple harmless fun]]. He then kills Android 16 for good, just to anger Gohan. The fact that Android 16 was never revived in a series where DeathIsCheap, only cements this. If that wasn't enough, after he murders Trunks, he mocks Gohan about Goku's death, saying [[SenselessSacrifice he died for nothing and only made him stronger]]. He then [[NiceJobBreakingItHero mockingly thanks]] Goku.
** Cell's creator, Dr. Gero. Not only did he make a monster like Cell who drank other people to get stronger, but he kidnapped Androids 17 and 18 and forcibly made them cyborgs. He also set them up to be absorbed by Cell. And it's his petty grudge against Goku that destroyed at least two timelines, ruined Trunks' life, and nearly blew up the solar system in the main timeline.
** It's hard to pinpoint where Babidi crossed the line. Is it where he [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness brutally murders his enslaved servants Spopovich and Yamu]], who surpassed his expectations? Is it when he allows Buu to eat Dabura, [[UndyingLoyalty who was nothing but loyal to him]]? Or maybe it's when he gleefully laughs as Buu eats entire cities. Pick one.
** Super Buu going on his genocidal Human Extinction Attack in which he destroys every last human on Earth, with some minor KickTheDog moments by turning Chichi into an egg to smash it and turning the remaining cast into chocolate to devour them.
** Kid Buu tops this by destroying the Earth, killing almost everyone except for Goku, Mr. Satan, Dende, and Bee. He then nearly destroys the Afterlife, which would ''erase'' everyone he already killed.
** No matter which [[Anime/DragonBallSuper incarnations of Zamasu]] are there, every single one of them cross the line at some point with their "Zero Mortals" plan but each version specifically crosses the line as mentioned:
*** For Present Zamasu, he not only does it when he is about to murder his master but also when Goku tells him what his future counterparts had done, his reaction is [[LackOfEmpathy simply joy]] at what his future selves had done.
*** Future Zamasu already tethers on the edge when he joins his AlternateTimeline counterpart completely ignoring that this guy killed his master but bragging about how his counterpart murdered Goku and his family is definitely his all-time low considering that there is absolutely ''no reason'' for him to do that other than showing what a [[KickTheDog cruel sadistic bastard]] he is.
*** Continuing the MEH from Present Zamasu, [[spoiler: his incarnation who became Goku Black crosses the line even more when his first act upon stealing his body is to immediately teleport and kill not only Goku but also Chi Chi and Goten. Considering that he quickly fled into Future Trunks timeline afterwards, he didn't even need to do that, he just did it out of spite for the man who beat him in a sparring match. When Goku learned this fact, he immediately flips out in rage and considered both him and Future Zamasu truly unforgivable, one of the very few times when Goku became outright angry.]]
*** As bad as all these present actions were, [[spoiler: Merged!Zamasu (a fusion from Goku Black and Future Zamasu]] managed to ''one-up them.'' How? [[spoiler: When Future Trunks defeats him and splits his body in two, he's become through sheer hate a terrifying ''multiverse-spanning'' EldritchAbomination, who proceeds to merge with the mutiverse, kill everyone except heroes and [[TopGod Zen'O]], and '''threatens to merge with another timeline.''' It's so bad that Zen'O himself has to destroy Zamasu and the whole timeline to stop his evil.]]
13th Sep '17 11:48:31 AM VisitorAlex
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* ''MoralEventHorizon/DeathNote''
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* Light Yagami of Manga/DeathNote arguably crosses the MEH early in the story when he [[spoiler:kills Raye Penbar and Naomi Misora, the two FBI agents investigating him]], with [[spoiler:Naomi]]'s murder being particularly cruel. Afterwards, his murders just get more and more extreme until [[spoiler:after [[{{Yandere}} Kiyomi Takada]], his former girlfriend and now follower, kills Mello. She calls him from Mello's truck, naked, crying and terrified. He coldly tells her to continue writing as many names as she can, and hangs up. Then, as the task force is driving to find her, Light writes on the piece in his watch that the poor girl dies ''by burning to death'', so that all the evidence is destroyed.]] This act of utter heartless cruelty cost Light all but the [[DracoInLeatherPants most diehard]] of his fanbase.
** For others, it's when Light [[spoiler:kills Naomi Misora]]. It's not so much that he kills her, but the ''way'' he does it ([[spoiler:forcing her to commit suicide]]) and the fact that he tells her that he's Kira the moment before the Death Note takes effect, [[KickTheDog just to see]] [[OhCrap the look of horror]] on her face as she realizes what's about to happen. As if that wasn't enough, once the Death Note takes effect, he taunts her with offers to get her in touch with the Kira Task Force, knowing that she can't do anything about it.
** In the LiveActionAdaptation, Light crosses this (in addition to some of the above examples) either [[spoiler: in the first movie, when he wrote his girlfriend Shiori's name in the Death Note and set her up to be killed by Naomi Misora as part of her own above death, or in the second one, where he wrote his ''father Soichirou's'' name into the Death Note. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Misa thought he went too far on the latter one]] and [[CryCute cried when it happened]], and Ryuk called him "worse than any shinigami."]]
** Hitoshi Demegawa at first seemed to be a {{Slimeball}} TV executive [[IfItBleedsItLeads cashing in on Kira]]. Then he [[spoiler:leads a riot on SPK headquarters, with the intention of killing every member of the group]]. When Demegawa is subsequently killed by Light's new subordinate Mikami, even the Kira Task Force side with Kira in doing so, unanimously agreeing that if ''anyone'' deserved to be killed by Kira, he did.
* Vamdemon/Myotismon was the ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' series's first ''[[BigBad Really]]'' BigBad. If his string of KickTheDog moments - he tortures and kills his {{Mooks}}, he captured Tailmon/Gatomon when she set out looking for her partner on her own and whipped her into a ChildSoldier, he has his followers invade the entire city of Tokyo and kidnap its children to weed out the eighth ChosenOne, and that's for starters - don't gradually nudge him over the MoralEventHorizon, then Wizardmon's [[TearJerker child-scarring]] death - [[HeroicSacrifice taking an attack]] meant to kill Gatomon and [[TheCutie Kari]], by the way - certainly does. It makes it downright beautiful when the fact that Vamdemon just made it [[ItsPersonal extra personal]] to Tailmon and, by extension, Hikari triggers Tailmon's evolving into Angewomon and impaling him with an arrow. Even that doesn't stop him, however, and he gets [[FromBadToWorse even worse]].

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* Light Yagami of Manga/DeathNote arguably crosses the MEH early in the story when he [[spoiler:kills Raye Penbar and Naomi Misora, the two FBI agents investigating him]], with [[spoiler:Naomi]]'s murder being particularly cruel. Afterwards, his murders just get more and more extreme until [[spoiler:after [[{{Yandere}} Kiyomi Takada]], his former girlfriend and now follower, kills Mello. She calls him from Mello's truck, naked, crying and terrified. He coldly tells her to continue writing as many names as she can, and hangs up. Then, as the task force is driving to find her, Light writes on the piece in his watch that the poor girl dies ''by burning to death'', so that all the evidence is destroyed.]] This act of utter heartless cruelty cost Light all but the [[DracoInLeatherPants most diehard]] of his fanbase.
** For others, it's when Light [[spoiler:kills Naomi Misora]]. It's not so much that he kills her, but the ''way'' he does it ([[spoiler:forcing her to commit suicide]]) and the fact that he tells her that he's Kira the moment before the Death Note takes effect, [[KickTheDog just to see]] [[OhCrap the look of horror]] on her face as she realizes what's about to happen. As if that wasn't enough, once the Death Note takes effect, he taunts her with offers to get her in touch with the Kira Task Force, knowing that she can't do anything about it.
** In the LiveActionAdaptation, Light crosses this (in addition to some of the above examples) either [[spoiler: in the first movie, when he wrote his girlfriend Shiori's name in the Death Note and set her up to be killed by Naomi Misora as part of her own above death, or in the second one, where he wrote his ''father Soichirou's'' name into the Death Note. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Misa thought he went too far on the latter one]] and [[CryCute cried when it happened]], and Ryuk called him "worse than any shinigami."]]
** Hitoshi Demegawa at first seemed to be a {{Slimeball}} TV executive [[IfItBleedsItLeads cashing in on Kira]]. Then he [[spoiler:leads a riot on SPK headquarters, with the intention of killing every member of the group]]. When Demegawa is subsequently killed by Light's new subordinate Mikami, even the Kira Task Force side with Kira in doing so, unanimously agreeing that if ''anyone'' deserved to be killed by Kira, he did.
* Vamdemon/Myotismon was the ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' series's first ''[[BigBad Really]]'' BigBad. If his string of KickTheDog moments - he tortures and kills his {{Mooks}}, he captured Tailmon/Gatomon when she set out looking for her partner on her own and whipped her into a ChildSoldier, he has his followers invade the entire city of Tokyo and kidnap its children to weed out the eighth ChosenOne, and that's for starters - don't gradually nudge him over the MoralEventHorizon, then Wizardmon's [[TearJerker child-scarring]] death - [[HeroicSacrifice taking an attack]] meant to kill Gatomon and [[TheCutie Kari]], by the way - certainly does. It makes it downright beautiful when the fact that Vamdemon just made it [[ItsPersonal extra personal]] to Tailmon and, by extension, Hikari triggers Tailmon's evolving into Angewomon and impaling him with an arrow. Even that doesn't stop him, however, and he gets [[FromBadToWorse even worse]].
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** For some, the Pilaf gang freeing Demon King Piccolo from the rice cooker he was imprisoned in just show they can share in his conquest. Before that they had never done anything especially bad (except try to kill Goku and friends and they were laughably incompetent at doing so anyway).
** Vegeta crossed this when he murdered an entire Namekian village in cold-blood. Others think he crossed the line when he allowed himself to become a Majin and murdered thousands to provoke Goku to fight him.
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