History MoralEventHorizon / AnimeAndManga

3rd May '16 4:23:07 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' [[AbusiveParents Rosa Ushiromiya]] either seriously kicks the puppy or downright crosses this when she [[spoiler: rips Sakutaro in half]]. Though it seemed minor at first, you would recall that ''she'' gave Maria the stuffed lion in the first place, and that Maria considered (or made) him real, and that he was probably her only friend. She also "kills" one of the Siesta sisters, though inadvertently when she threw her on the ground. And often at times where she slaps Maria. Yes, you should show your child discipline, but when you take it too far, it is just abuse. And she often claims to have to go to work, but in reality, she goes to spend the night with one of her boyfriends -- meaning she would often leave Maria home alone, often to the point where she would have to go out and get her own food. She even left one boyfriend when he told her to spend her time with her daughter. But what ultimately made her cross the horizon would have to be when she told Maria that she never loved her and wished for her to have died, so that she would have a happy life. She even tells her to ''go to Hell.'' Though, given her status as a TragicVillain, a victim of abuse and bullying from her own siblings and her father (which Rudolf actually aknowledges), the local ChewToy, or [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation most likely just stressed at work]], she might subvert this trope. Though, [[HotWitch Beatrice]] was [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted]] by her behavior.

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* In ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' [[AbusiveParents Rosa Ushiromiya]] either seriously kicks the puppy or downright crosses this when she [[spoiler: rips Sakutaro in half]]. Though it seemed minor at first, you would recall that ''she'' gave Maria the stuffed lion in the first place, and that Maria considered (or made) him real, and that he was probably her only friend. She also "kills" one of the Siesta sisters, though inadvertently when she threw her on the ground. And often at times where she slaps Maria. Yes, you should show your child discipline, but when you take it too far, it is just abuse. And she often claims to have to go to work, but in reality, she goes to spend the night with one of her boyfriends -- meaning she would often leave Maria home alone, often to the point where she would have to go out and get her own food. She even left one boyfriend when he told her to spend her time with her daughter. But what ultimately made her cross the horizon would have to be when she told Maria that she never loved her and wished for her to have died, so that she would have a happy life. She even tells her to ''go to Hell.'' Though, given her status as a TragicVillain, a victim of abuse and bullying from her own siblings and her father (which Rudolf actually aknowledges), the local ChewToy, or [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation most likely just stressed at work]], she might subvert this trope. Though, [[HotWitch Beatrice]] was [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted]] by her behavior.
21st Mar '16 1:33:45 PM Dravencour
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** As bad as those are the worst has to be Emperor Ganishka. If you name it he has done it: ethnic cleansing, putting [=POWs=] on the front lines, wide spread torture, attempted rape (of Charlotte, ''again'') to more horrifying examples like turning the Midland capitol into a city of death, using black magic to conjure evil spirits to fight for him forcing pregnant women into pits of chained apostles to produce demon soldiers who tear their way out of their still living mothers and finally using an artificial means to becoming an even more powerful demon that would destroy everything. All the while bragging about making the world into hell. This guy was so evil that when Griffith faced off with him, the fans rooted for Griffith.

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** As bad as those are the worst has to be Emperor Ganishka. If you name it he has done it: ethnic cleansing, putting [=POWs=] on the front lines, wide spread torture, attempted rape (of Charlotte, ''again'') to more horrifying examples like turning the Midland capitol into a city of death, using black magic to conjure evil spirits to fight for him forcing pregnant women into pits of chained apostles to produce demon soldiers who tear their way out of their still living mothers and finally using an artificial means to becoming an even more powerful demon that would destroy everything. All the while bragging about making the world into hell. This guy was so evil that when Griffith faced off with him, him following [[spoiler:his reincarnation]], the fans rooted for Griffith.
21st Mar '16 1:32:56 PM Dravencour
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** As bad as those are the worst has to be Emperor Ganishka. If you name it he has done it: ethnic cleansing, putting [=POWs=] on the front lines, wide spread torture, attempted rape (of Charlotte, ''again'') to more horrifying examples like turning the Midland capitol into a city of death, using black magic to conjure evil spirits to fight for him forcing pregnant women into pits of chained apostles to produce demon soldiers who tear their way out of their still living mothers and finally using an artificial means to becoming an even more powerful demon that would destroy everything. All the while bragging about making the world into hell.

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** As bad as those are the worst has to be Emperor Ganishka. If you name it he has done it: ethnic cleansing, putting [=POWs=] on the front lines, wide spread torture, attempted rape (of Charlotte, ''again'') to more horrifying examples like turning the Midland capitol into a city of death, using black magic to conjure evil spirits to fight for him forcing pregnant women into pits of chained apostles to produce demon soldiers who tear their way out of their still living mothers and finally using an artificial means to becoming an even more powerful demon that would destroy everything. All the while bragging about making the world into hell. This guy was so evil that when Griffith faced off with him, the fans rooted for Griffith.
14th Mar '16 1:56:22 PM Prfnoff
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* Kayaba Akihiko traps 10,000 people in the VR MMO ''SwordArtOnline'', making it so that death in-game will cause the death of the player in the real world as well. They remain trapped for two years, during which time thousands of people die. If that weren't enough, [[spoiler:he inserts himself into the game in the guise of a heroic player, leading the game's biggest guild, with every intention of betraying the other players in the future and becoming the "final boss" purely to create more drama]]. His reason, as best anyone can figure out from what's explained, was to try and make the world of his imagination as real as possible. Kayaba is an odd case in that the source material depicts him as ultimately sympathetic, but most of the fanbase disagrees.

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* ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'': Kayaba Akihiko traps 10,000 people in the titular VR MMO ''SwordArtOnline'', MMO, making it so that death in-game will cause the death of the player in the real world as well. They remain trapped for two years, during which time thousands of people die. If that weren't enough, [[spoiler:he inserts himself into the game in the guise of a heroic player, leading the game's biggest guild, with every intention of betraying the other players in the future and becoming the "final boss" purely to create more drama]]. His reason, as best anyone can figure out from what's explained, was to try and make the world of his imagination as real as possible. Kayaba is an odd case in that the source material depicts him as ultimately sympathetic, but most of the fanbase disagrees.
9th Mar '16 1:27:32 PM TheNerfGuy
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** For the longest time, even after it was revealed they ordered Ohara burned to the ground, some fans were willing to give [[BiggerBad the Five Elder Stars]] a pass. After all, they were trying to protect the world from ancient weapons of mass destruction. Then came the ending of the Paramount War, in which they order the escape of many vicious criminals from Impel Down covered up, and it became apparent that they're more concerned with their own power and image than protecting the world. This one was so bad, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Sengoku and Garp]] [[DefectorFromDecadence resigned on the spot rather than work for a government that would condone such things]].

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** For the longest time, even after it was revealed they ordered Ohara burned to the ground, some fans were willing to give [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain the Five Elder Stars]] a pass. After all, they were trying to protect the world from ancient weapons of mass destruction. Then came the ending of the Paramount War, in which they order the escape of many vicious criminals from Impel Down covered up, and it became apparent that they're more concerned with their own power and image than protecting the world. This one was so bad, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Sengoku and Garp]] [[DefectorFromDecadence resigned on the spot rather than work for a government that would condone such things]].
25th Jan '16 11:34:48 AM Willbyr
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* Deconstructed in ''LightNovel/KoreWaZombieDesuKa'' by [[spoiler:Yoruno]], who makes it his goal to [[spoiler:cross the MEH enough to provoke Eu into killing him. He succeeds at the end of episode 11; before Eu subsequently kills him, he reveals that his last wish is to be reincarnated as a penguin, because he likes penguins. He himself considers [[StartOfDarkness the death of another of Eu's paladins at his hands]] to be his own personal MEH.]]

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* Deconstructed in ''LightNovel/KoreWaZombieDesuKa'' ''LightNovel/IsThisAZombie'' by [[spoiler:Yoruno]], who makes it his goal to [[spoiler:cross the MEH enough to provoke Eu into killing him. He succeeds at the end of episode 11; before Eu subsequently kills him, he reveals that his last wish is to be reincarnated as a penguin, because he likes penguins. He himself considers [[StartOfDarkness the death of another of Eu's paladins at his hands]] to be his own personal MEH.]]
22nd Jan '16 8:57:41 PM Willbyr
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* In ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'''s second [[TheMovie movie]], ''Lagann-Hen'', the [[spoiler:Anti-Spiral]] analyzes and dissolves Nia... By [[RapeAsDrama mounting her naked body]] and grasping her with tentacles. At that point, he stopped being a WellIntentionedExtremist and started looking like a reject from ''Legend of the Overfiend''.

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* In ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'''s ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'''s second [[TheMovie movie]], ''Lagann-Hen'', the [[spoiler:Anti-Spiral]] analyzes and dissolves Nia... By [[RapeAsDrama mounting her naked body]] and grasping her with tentacles. At that point, he stopped being a WellIntentionedExtremist and started looking like a reject from ''Legend of the Overfiend''.
22nd Jan '16 8:57:14 PM Willbyr
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* In TengenToppaGurrenLagann's second [[TheMovie movie]], ''Lagann-Hen'', the [[spoiler:Anti-Spiral]] analyzes and dissolves Nia... By [[RapeAsDrama mounting her naked body]] and grasping her with tentacles. At that point, he stopped being a WellIntentionedExtremist and started looking like a reject from ''Legend of the Overfiend''.

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* In TengenToppaGurrenLagann's ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'''s second [[TheMovie movie]], ''Lagann-Hen'', the [[spoiler:Anti-Spiral]] analyzes and dissolves Nia... By [[RapeAsDrama mounting her naked body]] and grasping her with tentacles. At that point, he stopped being a WellIntentionedExtremist and started looking like a reject from ''Legend of the Overfiend''.
19th Jan '16 10:41:20 AM ryanasaurus0077
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** Vegeta crossed this when he murdered an entire Namekian village in cold-blood. Others think he crossed the line when he allowed himself to become a Majin and murdered thousands to provoke Goku to fight him.

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** Some say Vegeta crossed this when he murdered an entire Namekian village in cold-blood. Others think he crossed the line when he allowed himself to become a Majin and murdered thousands to provoke Goku to fight him.
19th Jan '16 1:58:39 AM Shadowgazer
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** A small minority believes that Vegeta crossed this when he murdered an entire Namekian village in cold-blood. Others think he crossed the line when he allowed himself to become a Majin and murdered thousands to provoke Goku to fight him.

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** A small minority believes that Vegeta crossed this when he murdered an entire Namekian village in cold-blood. Others think he crossed the line when he allowed himself to become a Majin and murdered thousands to provoke Goku to fight him.



** In the first season, for example, Queen Beryl crosses it by killing Zoicite, showing absolutely no remorse nor shred of willingness to relent despite Kunzite's attempt to take the blame for Zoicite's loose-cannon attempt on Tuxedo Kamen's life.
** Jedite crossed it earlier in the same season with his attempt on Tuxedo Kamen's life in his own last episode. Just as bad as Zoicite's aforementioned attempt, but what makes this one a MEH is that he proceeds to taunt the Sailor Senshi about it and make sexist remarks afterwards. It's also an InUniverse example, as instead of doing as he had predicted, the Sailor Senshi promptly make their disgust known, both [[YouMonster verbally]] (as Sailor Moon herself puts it in the Viz Media version, "Down with discrimination!") ''and'' [[CarFu physically]].

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** In the first season, for example, Queen Beryl crosses has many acts that could easily qualify for this trope. She [[spoiler: caused the War that ended with many ruined lives and Endymion and Serenity's death and rebirth]] and years afterwards she brings Metalia into power in order to cause an Apocalypse. The way to do it is by killing collecting the life essence of various unfortunate civilians. She also kills Jedite and later Zoicite, showing absolutely no remorse nor shred of willingness to relent despite Kunzite's attempt to take the blame for Zoicite's loose-cannon attempt on Tuxedo Kamen's life.
** Jedite crossed it earlier in the same season with his attempt on Tuxedo Kamen's life in his own last episode. Just as bad as Zoicite's aforementioned attempt, but what makes this one a MEH stand out is that he proceeds to taunt the Sailor Senshi about it and make sexist remarks afterwards. it. It's also an InUniverse example, as instead of doing as he had predicted, the Sailor Senshi promptly make their disgust known, both [[YouMonster verbally]] (as Sailor Moon herself puts it in the Viz Media version, "Down with discrimination!") ''and'' verbally]]''and'' [[CarFu physically]].[[spoiler: The Shitenou may not qualify however having been brainwashed by the Queen and not in real control over their actions.]]
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