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10th Apr '16 9:44:15 PM Loekman3
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** At this point Tai Lung probably did not believe that Shifu was sincere (he'd just finished giving him a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown and was going to kill him--ergo, Shifu would say anything to save himself) and was past reasoning with him anyway, Tai's last speech during the battle was only meant to hurt. That's why they made Po offer him a LastSecondChance later.
30th Mar '16 1:01:14 PM Shadowgazer
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*** [[spoiler: Bellwether crosses it when she shoots Nick with the Nighthowler serum (which he thankfully switched out prior with blueberries) in an attempt to make him kill Judy. Considering how friendly and supportive Bellwether had been to Judy in all their previous encounters, it really drives home how twisted the little sheep really is and how far she'll go to get what she wants. Bonus points for her choosing to simply stand there and watch her ex-friend be eviscerated.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Bellwether crosses it when she shoots Nick with the Nighthowler serum (which he thankfully switched out prior with blueberries) in an attempt to make him kill Judy. Considering how friendly and supportive Bellwether had been to Judy in all their previous encounters, it really drives home how twisted the little sheep really is and how far she'll go to get what she wants. Bonus points for her choosing to simply stand there and watch her ex-friend be eviscerated.]] And that is without going into her whole scheme, which involved transforming innocent citizens into mindless, feral beasts without any concern about their loved ones or the possible casualties that could be caused and planned to use them to turn the whole city against carnivores and who knows how far would she go in her steps against them?]]
16th Mar '16 12:48:02 AM JayRomeo
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** Disney/{{Zootopia}}:
***[[spoiler: Bellwether crosses it when she shoots Nick with the Nighthowler serum (which he thankfully switched out prior with blueberries) in an attempt to make him kill Judy. Considering how friendly and supportive Bellwether had been to Judy in all their previous encounters, it really drives home how twisted the little sheep really is and how far she'll go to get what she wants. Bonus points for her choosing to simply stand there and watch her ex-friend be eviscerated.]]
25th Feb '16 2:35:28 PM FastFuriousFan
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** In ''Disney/TheRescuers'', it's hard to tell when Medusa, who kidnaps a young girl named Penny to make her look in a flooded well for diamonds, crosses this, but it's evidently when [[spoiler:she refuses to let Penny up even when Penny's life is in danger. Oh, and did we mention that Medusa makes several direct attempts on Penny's life with a shotgun when she tries to escape? And she might have killed her had one of the animals helping the girl jammed a lit firecracker into the barrel of the gun, destroying it and leaving Medusa no other choice but to just pursue the girl on foot. [[DidntThinkThisThrough However, what would've happened if Medusa's one chance of getting the diamond dies ''with'' Penny?]]]]

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** In ''Disney/TheRescuers'', it's hard to tell when Medusa, who kidnaps a young girl named Penny to make her look in a flooded well for diamonds, crosses this, but it's evidently when [[spoiler:she refuses to let Penny up even when Penny's life is in danger. Oh, and did we mention that Medusa makes several direct attempts on Penny's life with a shotgun when she tries to escape? And she might have killed her had one of the animals helping the girl jammed a lit firecracker into the barrel of the gun, destroying it and leaving Medusa no other choice but to just pursue the girl on foot. [[DidntThinkThisThrough However, what would've happened if Medusa's one chance of getting the diamond dies ''with'' Penny?]]]]with Penny? Would she really want to waste that if getting the Devil's Eye is all she cares about?]]]]
25th Feb '16 2:31:36 PM FastFuriousFan
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** In ''Disney/TheRescuers'', it's hard to tell when Medusa, who kidnaps a young girl named Penny to make her look in a flooded well for diamonds, crosses this, but it's evidently when [[spoiler:she refuses to let Penny up even when Penny's life is in danger. Oh, and did we mention that Medusa makes several direct attempts on Penny's life with a shotgun when she tries to escape? And she might have killed her had one of the animals helping the girl jammed a lit firecracker into the barrel of the gun, destroying it and leaving Medusa no other choice but to just pursue the girl on foot.]]

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** In ''Disney/TheRescuers'', it's hard to tell when Medusa, who kidnaps a young girl named Penny to make her look in a flooded well for diamonds, crosses this, but it's evidently when [[spoiler:she refuses to let Penny up even when Penny's life is in danger. Oh, and did we mention that Medusa makes several direct attempts on Penny's life with a shotgun when she tries to escape? And she might have killed her had one of the animals helping the girl jammed a lit firecracker into the barrel of the gun, destroying it and leaving Medusa no other choice but to just pursue the girl on foot.]] [[DidntThinkThisThrough However, what would've happened if Medusa's one chance of getting the diamond dies ''with'' Penny?]]]]
20th Jan '16 11:12:17 AM GF93
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---->Nostalgia Critic: She had no magical powers, no minions, all she had was complete control over one person's life. And man did she squeeze every last drop out of it.

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---->Nostalgia Critic: -->'''Nostalgia Critic:''' She had no magical powers, no minions, all she had was complete control over one person's life. And man man, did she squeeze every last drop out of it.
18th Jan '16 2:07:54 PM MHarrington
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-->[[spoiler: '''Hopper:''' ''(rough with pure hatred)'' YOU THINK THIS IS OVER?!?!? ALL YOUR LITTLE SCHEME DID WAS BUY THEM TIME!!\\

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-->[[spoiler: --->[[spoiler: '''Hopper:''' ''(rough with pure hatred)'' YOU THINK THIS IS OVER?!?!? ALL YOUR LITTLE SCHEME DID WAS BUY THEM TIME!!\\
18th Jan '16 2:04:42 PM MHarrington
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** In ''Disney/TheRescuers'', it's hard to tell when Medusa, who kidnaps a young girl named Penny to make her look in a flooded well for diamonds, crosses this, but it's evidently when [[spoiler:she refuses to let Penny up even when Penny's life is in danger. Oh, and did we mention that Medusa makes several direct attempts on Penny's life with a shotgun when she tries to escape?]]

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** In ''Disney/TheRescuers'', it's hard to tell when Medusa, who kidnaps a young girl named Penny to make her look in a flooded well for diamonds, crosses this, but it's evidently when [[spoiler:she refuses to let Penny up even when Penny's life is in danger. Oh, and did we mention that Medusa makes several direct attempts on Penny's life with a shotgun when she tries to escape?]]escape? And she might have killed her had one of the animals helping the girl jammed a lit firecracker into the barrel of the gun, destroying it and leaving Medusa no other choice but to just pursue the girl on foot.]]



** [[Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective Ratigan's]] exposition song mentions he drowned widows and orphans ForTheEvulz. But halfway through the song, when one of his drunken mooks calls him a [[BerserkButton rat]] (he is a [[InsistentTerminology "real big mouse"]], if you please!) Ratigan has him [[DisproportionateRetribution eaten alive by his trained cat]].
** Gaston from ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' comes close to this when he tries to blackmail Belle into marrying him by [[spoiler:threatening to have her father tossed in the loony bin]]. He comes closer to it still when, out of envy of the Beast, he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] and stirs the town into an angry mob to make them kill him. However, Gaston finally crosses this by [[spoiler:stabbing Beast '''after''' Beast spared his life (and wearing a very ''[[SlasherSmile nasty]]'' [[SlasherSmile smile]] while doing it. [[DisneyVillainDeath He falls to his death soon afterwards]].]]
** In ''Disney/TheLionKing'', Scar (picked up) evidently crossed this by [[spoiler:murdering his brother Mufasa]]. It even seems, from Scar's facial expression at the edge of the cliff, that he realized there would be no going back once he did this, yet he did it anyway. Further evil actions (such as tricking Simba into blaming himself, or sending the hyenas after him) were done to get away with [[spoiler:murdering Mufasa]], which makes that the most likely candidate for MoralEventHorizon. When Simba finally tries to use the same words against Scar that ''he'' used against Simba ([[IronicEcho to "run away and never return"]]), instead of complying, proceeds to engage in an epic battle with Simba.

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** [[Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective Ratigan's]] exposition song mentions he drowned widows and orphans ForTheEvulz. But halfway through the song, when one of his drunken mooks calls him a [[BerserkButton rat]] (he is a [[InsistentTerminology "real big mouse"]], if you please!) Ratigan has him [[DisproportionateRetribution eaten alive by his trained cat]].
cat]]. And when Basil successfully undoes all of Ratigan's once and for all, [[VillainousBreakdown he really loses it.]]
** Gaston from ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' comes close to this when he tries to blackmail Belle into marrying him by [[spoiler:threatening to have her father tossed in the loony bin]]. He comes closer to it still when, out of envy of the Beast, he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] and stirs the town into an angry mob to make them kill him. However, Gaston finally crosses this by [[spoiler:stabbing Beast '''after''' Beast spared his life (and wearing a very ''[[SlasherSmile nasty]]'' [[SlasherSmile smile]] while doing it.it). [[DisneyVillainDeath He falls to his death soon afterwards]].]]
** In ''Disney/TheLionKing'', Scar (picked up) evidently crossed this by [[spoiler:murdering his brother Mufasa]]. It even seems, from Scar's facial expression at the edge of the cliff, that he realized there would be no going back once he did this, yet he did it anyway. Further evil actions (such as tricking Simba into blaming himself, or sending the hyenas after him) were done to get away with [[spoiler:murdering Mufasa]], which makes that the most likely candidate for MoralEventHorizon. When Simba finally tries to use the same words against Scar that ''he'' used against Simba ([[IronicEcho to "run away and never return"]]), instead of complying, proceeds to engage in an epic battle with Simba. But just before Simba and Scar battle, the latter foolishly blames the hyenas for everything, effectively sealing his fate when Simba leaves him to them.



** Governor Ratcliffe from ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' crossed this when he tried to shoot the Chief ''after'' his fellow colonials chose to make peace with the natives, resulting in John Smith taking the bullet and almost dying. The settlers arrest him and have him shipped back to England in disgrace. All the while, [[NeverMyFault he tries to blame everyone and everything but himself for what had happened.]]
** Most Disney villains are [[LaughablyEvil goofy, somewhat quirky people]], and even Queen Grimhilde, Lady Tremaine, and Scar had a funny and/or quirky moment or two. Not Judge Claude Frollo from their version of ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame''. If he didn't cross this after almost dropping ''a baby'' down a well, he did after burning down multiple homes with families still inside them. And he kills Quasimodo's mother within the first few minutes of the movie! That means that he crossed the line shortly after the film began and just kept running. The fact that Frollo uses [[HidingBehindReligion religion to justify his actions]] only makes it worse.

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** Governor Ratcliffe from ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' crossed this when he tried to shoot the Chief ''after'' his fellow colonials chose to make peace with the natives, resulting in John Smith taking the bullet and almost dying. The settlers arrest him and have him shipped back to England in disgrace. All the while, [[NeverMyFault he tries to blame everyone and everything but himself for what had happened.happened, angrily warning them that they are the treasonous ones for turning him in.]]
** Most Disney villains are [[LaughablyEvil goofy, somewhat quirky people]], and even Queen Grimhilde, Lady Tremaine, and Scar had a funny and/or quirky moment or two. Not But not Judge Claude Frollo from their version of ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame''. If he didn't cross this after almost dropping ''a baby'' down a well, he did after burning down multiple homes with families still inside them. And he kills Quasimodo's mother within the first few minutes of the movie! That means that he crossed the line shortly after the film began and just kept running. The fact that Frollo uses [[HidingBehindReligion religion to justify his actions]] only makes it worse.



*** Some people say that he crossed it by [[spoiler: putting ''Turbo Time'' and ''Road Runners'' out of commission, making homeless dozens of characters,]] because he couldn't stand not being the center of attention anymore. Not only that, it's no secret that he would have no issue with putting almost all of Grand Central Station out of commission as long as his massive ego is satisfied.
** In ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', [[spoiler:If the true BigBad [[ManipulativeBastard Hans]] using Anna and [[ILied lying to her]] the entire time isn't bad enough, then there's him leaving her to die followed by his attempted murder of Elsa. Though WordOfGod states that having 12 older brothers, he was given no love growing up. Turning him into the monster he was]]

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*** Some people say that he crossed it by [[spoiler: putting ''Turbo Time'' and ''Road Runners'' out of commission, making homeless dozens of characters,]] [[AttentionWhore because he couldn't stand not being the center of attention anymore.anymore]]. Not only that, it's no secret that he would have no issue with putting almost all of Grand Central Station out of commission as long as his massive ego is satisfied.
** In ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', [[spoiler:If the true BigBad [[ManipulativeBastard Hans]] using Anna and [[ILied lying to her]] the entire time isn't bad enough, then there's him leaving her to die followed by his attempted murder of Elsa. Though WordOfGod states that having 12 older brothers, [[ThirteenIsUnlucky he was given no love growing up. Turning up, turning him into the monster he was]]was.]]]]



** In ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'', Hopper probably crosses the line once he kills two of his own underlings to pass his message: it's not just about the food, it's about keeping the ants in line. And it all begun because a freak accident ruined the food originally set out for the grashoppers, making Hopper think he needed to tell them "YouHaveFailedMe". And [[KickTheDog thousands, if not millions, of puppies]] continue to be kicked afterwards, as one of his goons reveals [[spoiler: Hopper ''planned to squish the Queen'' after they finished the mass food theft ''just to teach the "lesson"''.]]

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** In ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'', Hopper probably crosses the line once he kills two of his own underlings to pass his message: it's not just about the food, it's about keeping the ants in line. And it all begun because a freak accident ruined the food originally set out for the grashoppers, grasshoppers, making Hopper think he needed to tell them "YouHaveFailedMe". And [[KickTheDog thousands, if not millions, of puppies]] continue to be kicked afterwards, as one of his goons reveals [[spoiler: Hopper ''planned to squish the Queen'' after they finished the mass food theft ''just to teach the "lesson"''.]] When this is about to happen, and after suffering a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown at one grasshopper's hands, Flik confronts Hopper with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech ("[[NoYou Who's the weaker species? Ants don't serve grasshoppers! It's]] ''[[NoYou you]]'' [[NoYou who needs]] ''[[NoYou us]]''!"), but this pushes Hopper even further past the line, especially when the ants decide to stand up to the grasshoppers. In the ensuing chaos, an enraged Hopper tries to kidnap Flik, but when his attempt is foiled, this pushes Hopper so far beyond the Horizon that there is no going back, especially when Hopper confronts Flik again.]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Hopper:''' ''(rough with pure hatred)'' YOU THINK THIS IS OVER?!?!? ALL YOUR LITTLE SCHEME DID WAS BUY THEM TIME!!\\
'''Flik:''' No, please! Please, Hopper!\\
'''Hopper:''' I'll get more grasshoppers and be back next season! ''But you won't!'']]



** AUTO from ''WesternAnimation/WallE'' may very well be a WellIntentionedExtremist, but [[spoiler:giving [[TheWoobie WALL•E]] painful-looking electric shocks and then [[KickTheDog throwing him and EVE down the garbage disposal tube]]]] really helps to cement audience disdain for him.

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** AUTO from ''WesternAnimation/WallE'' may very well be a WellIntentionedExtremist, but [[spoiler:giving [[TheWoobie WALL•E]] painful-looking electric shocks and then [[KickTheDog throwing him and EVE down the garbage disposal tube]]]] really helps to cement audience disdain for him.it.
11th Jan '16 7:15:04 PM igordebraga
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*** [[spoiler:Hiro himself nearly crosses this when ordering Baymax to kill Callaghan, then when he fails, plotting on finding him and finishing the job. The worst part is that he doesn't just order Baymax to do this - he takes out his health care disk (which is what makes him Baymax) and makes him a mindless fighting/killing machine that even hurts his friends when they try to hold him back. When Baymax is back to his senses, he even states he feels violated. Ultimately subverted when Tadashi's video has Heero realize why he was wrong and come to his senses.]]

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*** [[spoiler:Hiro himself nearly crosses this when ordering Baymax to kill Callaghan, then when he fails, plotting on finding him and finishing the job. The worst part is that he doesn't just order Baymax to do this - he takes out his health care disk (which is what makes him Baymax) and makes him a mindless fighting/killing machine that even hurts his friends when they try to hold him back. When Baymax is back to his senses, he even states he feels violated. Ultimately subverted when Thankfully, Hiro does go back into a moral ground once he sees Tadashi's video has Heero realize why he was wrong and come to his senses.video.]]



** In ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'', Hopper [[KickTheDog punts thousands, if not millions, of puppies]] when he steals all the ants' food, but where he really crosses the MEH is when it's revealed by one of his goons [[spoiler: that he ''planned to squish the Queen'' after they finished the mass food theft ''just to teach the ants a lesson''.]] And then, when Flik [[ShutUpHannibal calls him out for his actions]], Hopper [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down and flat-out considers the ants enemies.]]
*** And both stealing the food and [[spoiler:plotting to squish the Queen]] were intended as a YouHaveFailedMe because a freak accident ruined the food originally set out for Hopper. Even worse, he originally decided against going through with it considering they had enough food to last them through the winter already, but then he remembered that Flik had stood up to him once before, and decides to take the opportunity to crush a potential rebellion.

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** In ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'', Hopper probably crosses the line once he kills two of his own underlings to pass his message: it's not just about the food, it's about keeping the ants in line. And it all begun because a freak accident ruined the food originally set out for the grashoppers, making Hopper think he needed to tell them "YouHaveFailedMe". And [[KickTheDog punts thousands, if not millions, of puppies]] when he steals all the ants' food, but where he really crosses the MEH is when it's revealed by continue to be kicked afterwards, as one of his goons reveals [[spoiler: that he Hopper ''planned to squish the Queen'' after they finished the mass food theft ''just to teach the ants a lesson''.]] And then, when Flik [[ShutUpHannibal calls him out for his actions]], Hopper [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down and flat-out considers the ants enemies.]]
*** And both stealing the food and [[spoiler:plotting to squish the Queen]] were intended as a YouHaveFailedMe because a freak accident ruined the food originally set out for Hopper. Even worse, he originally decided against going through with it considering they had enough food to last them through the winter already, but then he remembered that Flik had stood up to him once before, and decides to take the opportunity to crush a potential rebellion.
"lesson"''.]]



** [[spoiler: Lotso]] crosses it in ToyStory3 when he refuses to help Andy's toys survive the incinerator after [[UngratefulBastard they went out of their way to save his behind moments earlier.]]

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** [[spoiler: Lotso]] crosses it in ToyStory3 ''ToyStory3'' when he refuses to help Andy's toys survive the incinerator after [[UngratefulBastard they went out of their way to save his behind moments earlier.]]
1st Jan '16 9:58:46 AM Shadowgazer
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* More than half of the short animated film ''Zero'' in one long crossing of the horizon for everyone at the expense of the title character who happened to be born with number zero on his chest. He is continuously abused and physically assaulted and they almost murder his pregnant wife in front of him after imprisoning him. It is clearly shown that this happens to all zeroes and it is a film about the horrors of racism, casteism and social unequality.
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