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* [[BigBad Dante]] is a [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld 400-year-old woman]] with a penchant for {{Body Surf}}ing; she's stayed alive this long by jacking innocent people's bodies, ditching them when they start to rot, and repeating the process infinitely. When her own Philosopher's Stone runs out, she sets in motion a plan to cause so much misery in Amestris that someone will be desperate enough to recreate the Stone, allowing her to steal it with no risk to herself. She's [[AbusiveParents abusive]] towards her Homunculi "children", arranges for Ed to kill Greed, [[GrandTheftMe jacks her own assistant's body]], and finally, attempts to steal the body of one of the hero's {{Love Interest}}s, who had already been severely traumatized by rape/pregnancy, solely so that she can force him to have sex with her. Said hero is both a [[{{Ephebophile}} teenager]], and her ''ex-boyfriend's son''. She later shatters the mind of one of her Homunculi servants when he dares to miss his dead friend, turning him into a mindless eating machine. She's never shown in a sympathetic light, comes off as an [[SmugSnake overconfident]] JerkAss in person, and doesn't even have the excuse of not being human to protect her.
* [[TheDragon Envy]] lacks all the [[AlasPoorVillain pitiful qualities]] that his manga counterpart had. An AxCrazy {{sadist}}, Envy uses his ShapeShifterGuiltTrip by taking on the forms of people's loved ones before killing them. He is the one responsible for murdering Maes Hughes, by impersonating his wife and rubbing it at his face before killing him. Envy is mostly seen [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Amestris's government]] behind the scenes with a string of mind games and murders, while [[TheGeneralissimo Pride]] controls the military as King Bradley. This all culminates in him [[HeroKiller killing Ed]] when he finds out that Envy is in fact, the [[AntagonisticOffspring homunculus version of his half-sibling]]. Unlike other homunculi, who wanted to become humans, Envy was the sole exception, only working for [[BigBad Dante]] so he could [[PsychoForHire kill as many people as possible]], abusing both other homunculi and prisoners in the process simply [[ForTheEvulz for laughs]]. His ParentalAbandonment as a FreudianExcuse doesn't even come close to justifying his homicidal mania and Envy completely undermines it in ''Conqueror of Shamballa'' when he decides to murder his father rather than trying to reconnect with him.

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* [[BigBad Dante]] is a [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld 400-year-old woman]] woman who [[ImmortalityImmorality keeps herself alive]] by trading her soul with a penchant for {{Body Surf}}ing; she's stayed alive this long by jacking innocent people's bodies, ditching them when they start to rot, and younger person, then killing her old body, repeating the process infinitely. indefinitely. When her Dante's own Philosopher's Stone runs out, she sets in motion a plan to cause so much misery in Amestris that someone will be desperate enough to recreate the Stone, allowing her to steal it with no risk to herself. She's [[AbusiveParents abusive]] {{Abusive|Parents}} towards her Homunculi "children", Dante arranges for Ed to kill Greed, [[GrandTheftMe jacks Greed. Stealing the body of her own assistant's body]], and finally, attempts assistant, Dante later tries to steal move into the body of one of the hero's Ed's {{Love Interest}}s, who had already been severely traumatized by rape/pregnancy, solely so that she can force him Interest}}s when her current body begins to have sex with her. deteriorate. Said hero action is made even more disgusting by the fact Ed is both a [[{{Ephebophile}} teenager]], teenager and her ''ex-boyfriend's son''. She later shatters the mind son of one of her Homunculi servants when he dares to miss his dead friend, turning him Dante's own ex-lover. When Gluttony falls into a mindless eating machine. She's never shown in a sympathetic light, comes off as an [[SmugSnake overconfident]] JerkAss in person, and doesn't even have the excuse despair because of not Lust's death, Dante, annoyed with him being human unwilling to protect her.
follow orders, callously destroys his mind to make him easier to control.
* [[TheDragon This version of [[MisanthropeSupreme Envy]] lacks all the [[AlasPoorVillain pitiful qualities]] that his manga counterpart had. An is an AxCrazy {{sadist}}, Envy sadist, who uses his ShapeShifterGuiltTrip powers to torment his victims by [[KickTheDog taking on the forms of people's loved ones ones]] before killing them. He is the one responsible for murdering Maes Hughes, by impersonating his wife and rubbing it at his face before killing him. Envy is mostly seen [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Amestris's government]] government behind the scenes scenes]] with a string of mind games and murders, while [[TheGeneralissimo Pride]] controls the military as King Bradley. murders. This all culminates in him [[HeroKiller killing Ed]] Ed when he finds out that Envy is is, in fact, the [[AntagonisticOffspring homunculus version of his half-sibling]]. half-sibling. Unlike other homunculi, who wanted to become humans, Envy was the sole exception, only working for [[BigBad Dante]] so he could [[PsychoForHire working for Dante so he could kill as many people as possible]], abusing both other homunculi and prisoners in the process simply [[ForTheEvulz for laughs]]. His ParentalAbandonment as a FreudianExcuse doesn't even come close to justifying laughs. When captured by the Thule Society in his homicidal mania and serpent form, Envy completely undermines it in ''Conqueror of Shamballa'' when he decides is kept docile by being allowed to murder painfully impale his father rather than trying to reconnect Hoenheim, with him.his fangs.



* [[SerialKiller Barry the Chopper]], unlike his [[PlayedForLaughs manga incarnation]], is [[AdaptationalVillainy far more vicious and horrifying]]. Barry was once a simple butcher living in Central City who had grown bored with his life of cutting up pigs and cows. One day, to see what it felt like, Barry decided to chop up his wife and quickly found that he loved the sensation. What followed was a string of women being brutally murdered. Barry's killing spree came to a temporary halt when he was arrested after trying to kill the Elrics' childhood friend, Winry. Rather than be executed, Barry was experimented on, had his soul bound to a suit of armor, and became one of the guards for the Fifth Laboratory. After the lab's destruction, Barry slaked his bloodlust by joining a group of mercenaries to slaughter a camp of harmless Ishvalans. An utter sociopath, Barry killed people for no other reason than because he enjoyed it. When asked by Alphonse if Barry was afraid that he wasn't the real Barry and was just an artificially constructed soul, like Barry accused Alphonse of being, Barry stated that it didn't matter if he was the original Barry or not[[labelnote:*]]He ''is'' the original Barry.[[/labelnote]]. Barry claimed that so long as he had the ability to kill people, he loved who he was: "I kill therefore I am."

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* [[SerialKiller The anime incarnation of [[AxCrazy Barry the Chopper]], unlike his [[PlayedForLaughs manga incarnation]], Chopper]] is [[AdaptationalVillainy far more vicious and horrifying]]. Barry horrifying]] than his original. He was once a simple butcher living in Central City who had grown City, but when he grew bored with his life of cutting chopping up pigs and cows. One day, to see what it felt like, Barry animals, decided to chop up butcher his wife and quickly found that he loved the sensation. What sensation and followed was a string of women being brutally murdered.by [[SerialKiller gruesomely murdering many young women]]. Barry's killing spree came to a temporary halt when he was arrested after trying to kill the Elrics' childhood friend, Winry. Rather than be executed, Barry was experimented on, had his soul bound to a suit of armor, and became one of the guards was used as a guardian for the Fifth Laboratory. After the lab's destruction, it was destroyed, Barry slaked his bloodlust by [[PsychoForHire joining a group of mercenaries mercenaries]] to slaughter a camp of harmless Ishvalans. An utter sociopath, Barry killed people for no other reason than because he enjoyed it. When asked by Alphonse if Barry was afraid that he wasn't the real Barry and was just an artificially constructed soul, like Barry accused Alphonse of being, Barry stated that it didn't matter if he was the original Barry or not[[labelnote:*]]He ''is'' the original Barry.[[/labelnote]]. Barry claimed that so long as he had the ability to kill people, he loved who he was: "I kill therefore I am."Ishvalans.
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* ''[[Anime/FullmetalAlchemistTheConquerorOfShamballa The Conqueror of Shamballa]]'': [[KnightTemplar Thule Society Chairman Dietlinde Eckhart]] is the BigBad and an [[{{Ghostapo}} occult supporter of the Nazi party]] trying to reach the titular Shamballa to gain the power to conquer the world. Capturing Envy to open the gate to the other world, Eckhart keeps the homunculus docile by allowing him to bite into Hoenheim, leaving the man in agony. When Hoenheim sacrifices himself to open the gate, Eckhart, no longer needing Ed's alchemy, shoots him and leads an assault into his world. Enthralled with her newfound ability to use alchemy but fearing others with the same power, Eckhart tries to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the very world]] she once sought to conquer, a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic]] hypocrite who would not tolerate anyone but herself having authority.
14th Mar '18 9:00:11 PM nombretomado
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* [[MadScientist Sho(u) Tucker]], the [[MadDoctor Sewing-Life Alchemist]], is revealed to have fused his own wife with a dog to turn her into a chimera, a twisted parody of life that [[AndIMustScream suffers in perpetual pain]]. Later performing the same treatment with his own daughter, Tucker defends his actions by claiming it is completely natural to perform unethical experiments solely on the basis of being able to. Being beaten and imprisoned by Edward Elric, Tucker later joins a military coup where he helps to create countless Mannequin Soldiers to unleash upon the civilian populace solely to spite Ed, without a single care for the lives that will be lost.
* [[InsaneAdmiral General Hakuro]] is a ruthless military officer seeking a military coup. Manipulating conflict, death and murder across Amestris, Hakuro recruits Tucker and reveals the truth of the {{Philosophers Stone}}s as the amalgam of fused human souls and lives, flashbacks showing that Hakuro had [[PlayingWithSyringes thousands of prisoners and innocents painfully melted down]] to create thousands and thousands of stones. Upon confronting Edward, Hakuro plans to unleash the cannibalistic Mannequin Soldiers on Amestris to kill until Hakuro can seize control of the country, driven by nothing but a hunger for power.
6th Mar '18 6:56:19 PM nombretomado
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* The [[NoNameGiven unnamed]] and utterly heinous [[GoldTooth Gold-Toothed]] [[MadDoctor Doctor]] crosses the MoralEventHorizon in one of Bradley's flashbacks, when he's shown cackling with glee as he [[MadScientist puts one subject after another]] through the [[ForScience process intended]] to create [[SuperSoldier Wrath]]; this process horrifically kills the first twelve candidates, deconstructing their bodies [[AndIMustScream while they are still alive]]. In the present day he only gets a few scenes, but they are more than enough. He uses his [[TheMedic medical alchemy]] to heal MadBomber [[SociopathicSoldier Solf J. Kimblee]] so that he might be unleashed upon the heroes again. He later looses the remaining Fuhrer candidates (all of whom have been reduced to an essentially mindless state) on Ed, Roy, Hawkeye, and Scar to prevent them from interfering with Father's plans to destroy the country, activates the Transmutation Circle that sends Ed, Al, and Izumi into Father's presence, and finally has one of the candidates [[SlashedThroat slit Riza Hawkeye's throat]] in an attempt at forcing Roy to perform human transmutation and open the Gate. Perhaps most importantly, he's privy to [[BigBad Father]]'s [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt endgame]] (unlike Central Command, who believe they are all going to receive immortality) and simply doesn't give a damn. No explanation for his actions is ever given, and he spends all of his appearances sporting a SlasherSmile and bragging about his achievements as a scientist.

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* The [[NoNameGiven unnamed]] and utterly heinous [[GoldTooth Gold-Toothed]] unnamed [[MadDoctor Doctor]] crosses the MoralEventHorizon in one of Bradley's flashbacks, when he's shown cackling Doctor with glee as he the gold tooth]] created the homunculus Wrath by [[MadScientist puts one subject after another]] through inserting Philosopher's Stones into the [[ForScience bodies of thirteen candidates]], cackling when the process intended]] to create [[SuperSoldier Wrath]]; this process horrifically kills painfully killed the first twelve twelve. Using the [[EmptyShell now-mindless]] bodies of the first dozen candidates, deconstructing their bodies [[AndIMustScream while they are still alive]]. In the present day he only gets a few scenes, but they are more than enough. He uses his [[TheMedic medical alchemy]] to heal MadBomber [[SociopathicSoldier Solf J. Kimblee]] so that he might be unleashed Doctor unleashes them upon the heroes again. He later looses the remaining Fuhrer candidates (all of whom have been reduced trying to an essentially mindless state) on Ed, Roy, Hawkeye, and Scar to prevent them stop Father from interfering with Father's plans destroying Amestris. To force Mustang to destroy open the country, activates Gate of Truth, the Transmutation Circle that sends Ed, Al, and Izumi into Father's presence, and finally has one of the candidates Doctor [[SlashedThroat slit Riza Hawkeye's slits the throat]] in an attempt at forcing Roy to perform human transmutation and open the Gate. Perhaps most importantly, he's privy to [[BigBad Father]]'s [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt endgame]] (unlike Central Command, who believe they are all going to receive immortality) and simply doesn't give a damn. No explanation for his actions is ever given, and he spends all of his appearances sporting a SlasherSmile and bragging about his achievements LoveInterest so she will bleed to death unless he opens it to save her. Knowing Father's plan would kill millions, the Doctor only strives to cause as a scientist.much death as he can.
24th Feb '18 11:12:51 AM nombretomado
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* The manga version of [[BigBad Father]] lacks the AlasPoorVillain moment of his ''Brotherhood'' counterpart. Father is a [[EldritchAbomination being from beyond the Gate]] given form in a small flask and named Homunculus by the nameless slave who would become van Hohenheim in the Xerxes empire. Desiring to escape the flask, Homunculus would trick the king of Xerxes into a ritual that slaughtered multiple people to initiate an alchemy ritual that killed everyone in Xerxes and split their souls between Hohenheim and Homunculus, to the latter's horror. Later founding the nation of Amestris and creating the Homunculi, he took the name of "Father", guiding Amestris to become a military dictatorship that initiated military conflicts to provide bloodshed for an even greater ritual, including the genocide of the Ishvalan people. Intending to kill and steal the souls of tens of millions so that [[AGodAmI he could devour God]], or Truth itself, Father demonstrates cold sadism when he faces Hohenheim and [[TrulySingleParent his children again]], [[MindRape mentally torturing]] them as he also abandons or [[AbusiveParents tries to absorb his own Homunculi children]]. While he sees himself as an existence above humans, this is simply a reflection of Father's arrogance and pride, desiring to [[ImmortalityImmorality ascend ever higher, no matter who or what he has to destroy to gain ultimate knowledge and power]].

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* The manga version of [[BigBad Father]] lacks the AlasPoorVillain moment of his ''Brotherhood'' counterpart. Father is a [[EldritchAbomination being from beyond the Gate]] given form in a small flask and named Homunculus by the nameless slave who would become van Hohenheim in the Xerxes empire. Desiring to escape the flask, Homunculus would trick the king of Xerxes into a ritual that slaughtered multiple people to initiate an alchemy ritual that killed everyone in Xerxes and split their souls between Hohenheim and Homunculus, to the latter's horror. Later founding the nation of Amestris and creating the Homunculi, he took the name of "Father", guiding Amestris to become a military dictatorship that initiated military conflicts to provide bloodshed for an even greater ritual, including the genocide of the Ishvalan people. Intending to kill and steal the souls of tens of millions so that [[AGodAmI he could devour God]], or Truth itself, Father demonstrates cold sadism when he faces Hohenheim and [[TrulySingleParent his children again]], [[MindRape mentally torturing]] them as he also abandons or [[AbusiveParents tries to absorb his own Homunculi children]]. While he sees himself as an existence above humans, this is simply a reflection of Father's arrogance and pride, desiring to [[ImmortalityImmorality ascend ever higher, no matter who or what he has to destroy to gain ultimate knowledge and power]].
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* The manga version of [[BigBad Father]] lacks the AlasPoorVillain moment of his ''Brotherhood'' counterpart. Father is a [[EldritchAbomination being from beyond the Gate]] given form in a small flask and named Homunculus by the nameless slave who would become van Hohenheim in the Xerxes empire. Desiring to escape the flask, Homunculus would trick the king of Xerxes into a ritual that slaughtered multiple people to initiate an alchemy ritual that killed everyone in Xerxes and split their souls between Hohenheim and Homunculus, to the latter's horror. Later founding the nation of Amestris and creating the Homunculi, he took the name of "Father", guiding Amestris to become a military dictatorship that initiated military conflicts to provide bloodshed for an even greater ritual, including the genocide of the Ishvalan people. Intending to kill and steal the souls of tens of millions so that [[AGodAmI he could devour God]], or Truth itself, Father demonstrates cold sadism when he faces Hohenheim and [[TrulySingleParent his children again]], [[MindRape mentally torturing]] them as he also abandons or [[AbusiveParents tries to absorb his own Homunculi children]]. While he sees himself as an existence above humans, this is simply a reflection of Father's arrogance and pride, desiring to [[ImmortalityImmorality ascend ever higher, no matter who or what he has to destroy to gain ultimate knowledge and power]].
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* [[TheDragon Envy]] lacks all the [[AlasPoorVillain pitiful qualities]] that his manga counterpart had. An AxCrazy {{ sadist}}, Envy uses his ShapeShifterGuiltTrip by taking on the forms of people's loved ones before killing them. He is the one responsible for murdering Maes Hughes, by impersonating his wife and rubbing it at his face before killing him. Envy is mostly seen [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Amestris's government]] behind the scenes with a string of mind games and murders, while [[TheGeneralissimo Pride]] controls the military as King Bradley. This all culminates in him [[HeroKiller killing Ed]] when he finds out that Envy is in fact, the [[AntagonisticOffspring homunculus version of his half-sibling]]. Unlike other homunculi, who wanted to become humans, Envy was the sole exception, only working for [[BigBad Dante]] so he could [[PsychoForHire kill as many people as possible]], abusing both other homunculi and prisoners in the process simply [[ForTheEvulz for laughs]]. His ParentalAbandonment as a FreudianExcuse doesn't even come close to justifying his homicidal mania and Envy completely undermines it in ''Conqueror of Shamballa'' when he decides to murder his father rather than trying to reconnect with him.

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* [[TheDragon Envy]] lacks all the [[AlasPoorVillain pitiful qualities]] that his manga counterpart had. An AxCrazy {{ sadist}}, {{sadist}}, Envy uses his ShapeShifterGuiltTrip by taking on the forms of people's loved ones before killing them. He is the one responsible for murdering Maes Hughes, by impersonating his wife and rubbing it at his face before killing him. Envy is mostly seen [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Amestris's government]] behind the scenes with a string of mind games and murders, while [[TheGeneralissimo Pride]] controls the military as King Bradley. This all culminates in him [[HeroKiller killing Ed]] when he finds out that Envy is in fact, the [[AntagonisticOffspring homunculus version of his half-sibling]]. Unlike other homunculi, who wanted to become humans, Envy was the sole exception, only working for [[BigBad Dante]] so he could [[PsychoForHire kill as many people as possible]], abusing both other homunculi and prisoners in the process simply [[ForTheEvulz for laughs]]. His ParentalAbandonment as a FreudianExcuse doesn't even come close to justifying his homicidal mania and Envy completely undermines it in ''Conqueror of Shamballa'' when he decides to murder his father rather than trying to reconnect with him.
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