History MisaimedFandom / VideoGames

9th Feb '17 1:56:40 AM MagBas
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** [[UnfortunateImplications This only gets worse]] when you analyze these fans's reasoning and see LOTS of gender roles-based bullshit and fetishization reflected in it. To them, apparently the only reason why a person of either gender would dress as someone from the opposite one is that he or she is trans, and the fact that they are not must have been "totally tacked on" because the writers are transphobes. In fewer words, by slapping the word "transsexual" on characters for crossdressing and/or liking things that society dictates as being proper of the opposite gender, '''[[{{Hypocrite}} these people are reinforcing the same gender stereotypes/roles they claim to hate]]'''. And critiques such as [[http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=6088 this one]] are, in many cases, coming from self-professed trans gamers, [[YouAreWhatYouHate which only makes things more disturbing]].
8th Feb '17 11:29:13 PM Anddrix
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** An inversion of this trope happens with Xion in ''358/2 days''. A lot of people hate her because of CommonMarySueTraits... when in actuality they are deconstructed even ''more'' horribly than the Franchise/TalesSeries does to many common tropes.

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** An inversion of this trope happens with Xion in ''358/2 days''. A lot of people hate her because of CommonMarySueTraits...her Mary Sue traits... when in actuality they are deconstructed even ''more'' horribly than the Franchise/TalesSeries does to many common tropes.
7th Feb '17 5:30:46 PM WolfThunder
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** The below mentioned "crossdresser or trans*?" debate came to the game with the appearance of Prince Forrest, a WholesomeCrossdresser and ActionFashionista who explicitely says he's a guy despite his girlish tastes in clothing '''and''' openly states that he's uncomfortable whenever he's mistaken as a girl. [[http://dlartistanon.tumblr.com/post/142825383263/more-hey-can-we-not-do-this-forrest-makes-it A part of the fandom]], [[http://electricprincess96.tumblr.com/post/142730976381/okay-so-as-a-non-binary-trans-person-the-forrest however]], [[https://herskyofdiamonds.tumblr.com/post/142366203100/foleo-i-know-i-look-like-a-girl-but-i-am-a-boy insists that Forrest is a trans girl]], [[http://judar.god.jp/post/142604290071/stop-calling-foleo-forrest-a-girl despite evidence to]] [[http://boyonetta.tumblr.com/post/144070357539/please-dont-misgender-forrest-shes-a-girl the contrary.]]

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** The below mentioned "crossdresser or trans*?" trans?" debate came to the game with the appearance of Prince Forrest, a WholesomeCrossdresser and ActionFashionista who explicitely says he's a guy despite his girlish tastes in clothing '''and''' openly states that he's uncomfortable whenever he's mistaken as a girl. [[http://dlartistanon.tumblr.com/post/142825383263/more-hey-can-we-not-do-this-forrest-makes-it A part of the fandom]], [[http://electricprincess96.tumblr.com/post/142730976381/okay-so-as-a-non-binary-trans-person-the-forrest however]], [[https://herskyofdiamonds.tumblr.com/post/142366203100/foleo-i-know-i-look-like-a-girl-but-i-am-a-boy insists that Forrest is a trans girl]], [[http://judar.god.jp/post/142604290071/stop-calling-foleo-forrest-a-girl despite evidence to]] [[http://boyonetta.tumblr.com/post/144070357539/please-dont-misgender-forrest-shes-a-girl the contrary.]]



** [[UnfortunateImplications It gets more disturbing]] when you analyze these fans's reasoning and see LOTS of gender roles-based bullshit and fetishization reflected in it. To them, apparently the only reason why a person of either gender would dress as someone from the opposite one is that he or she is trans*, and the fact that they are not must have been "totally tacked on" because the writers are transphobes. In few words, by slapping the word "transsexual" on characters for crossdressing and/or liking things that society dictates as being proper of the opposite gender... '''these people are reinforcing the same gender stereotypes/roles they claim to hate'''. And critiques such as [[http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=6088 this one]] are, in many cases, coming from self-professed trans* gamers, which only makes things more disturbing.

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** [[UnfortunateImplications It This only gets more disturbing]] worse]] when you analyze these fans's reasoning and see LOTS of gender roles-based bullshit and fetishization reflected in it. To them, apparently the only reason why a person of either gender would dress as someone from the opposite one is that he or she is trans*, trans, and the fact that they are not must have been "totally tacked on" because the writers are transphobes. In few fewer words, by slapping the word "transsexual" on characters for crossdressing and/or liking things that society dictates as being proper of the opposite gender... '''these gender, '''[[{{Hypocrite}} these people are reinforcing the same gender stereotypes/roles they claim to hate'''.hate]]'''. And critiques such as [[http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=6088 this one]] are, in many cases, coming from self-professed trans* trans gamers, [[YouAreWhatYouHate which only makes things more disturbing.disturbing]].
29th Jan '17 1:57:22 AM Monsund
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* Dear ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' fandom: We are ''not'' supposed to sympathize with "Mad King" Gangrel's actions. This is hammered '''repeatedly''' through the game, [[spoiler:'''even by Gangrel himself after his HeelFaceTurn'''.]] And yet many Gangrel fans are quick to accuse the Ylisseans of hating '''all''' Plegians and being a bunch of HolierThanThou bastards... nevermind that two of the heroic characters [[spoiler: (three, counting the Avatar - four or even maybe '''five''', counting HFT!Gangrel and HFT!Aversa, not to mention their possible children)]] are Plegians and ''still'' manage to get along with the Ylisseans just fine.
** Probably the biggest reason is because he outright states later on that [[spoiler:he knew Walhart was planning to invade the continent and that he was trying to unite the continent to fight back]] under any means necessary. [[WhatAnIdiot Unfortunately]], this translated into doing anything he could to get the Fire Emblem, when he could of accomplished the task more easily by diplomacy [[PoorCommunicationKills had he simply explained the situation]], which would've led to TeethClenchedTeamwork that, while unpleasant, would've gotten the job done.
** [[spoiler: Walhart]] himself could also fall under this; he wanted to conquer the entire planet, [[spoiler:because he believed the only way to prevent war (including the war with [[BiggerBad Grima]]) was to rule by superior military might]]. But no, just like Gangrel, instead of simply explaining his reasoning, seeking allies, and focusing on real threats, he divided the continent with war... And their fans don't see their flaws.

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* Dear ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' fandom: We are ''not'' supposed to sympathize with It's "Mad King" Gangrel's actions. is simply after WarForFunAndProfit, and doesn't have any noble motives by the game's beginning. This is hammered '''repeatedly''' through the game, [[spoiler:'''even by Gangrel himself after his HeelFaceTurn'''.]] HeelFaceTurn''' who says he lost sight of his original goal of uniting the continent against Valm after taking power]]. And yet many Gangrel fans are quick to accuse the Ylisseans of hating '''all''' Plegians and being a bunch of HolierThanThou bastards... nevermind that two of the heroic characters [[spoiler: (three, counting the Avatar - four or even maybe '''five''', counting HFT!Gangrel and HFT!Aversa, not to mention their possible children)]] are Plegians and ''still'' manage to get along with the Ylisseans just fine.
** Probably the biggest reason is because he outright states later on that [[spoiler:he knew Walhart was planning to invade the continent and that
say he was trying to unite a WellIntentionedExtremist out for justice against Plegia. This is despite the continent to fight back]] under any means necessary. [[WhatAnIdiot Unfortunately]], this translated into doing anything he could to get game showing Gangrel oppressing Plegians, his backstory making it clear the Fire Emblem, when he could of accomplished the task more easily by diplomacy [[PoorCommunicationKills had he simply explained the situation]], which would've led to TeethClenchedTeamwork that, while unpleasant, would've gotten the job done.
** [[spoiler: Walhart]] himself could also fall under this;
Ylisse/Grimleal war didn't effect him, and his MotiveRant revealing he wanted to conquer the entire planet, [[spoiler:because he believed the only way to prevent war (including the war with [[BiggerBad Grima]]) was to rule by superior military might]]. But no, just like Gangrel, instead of simply explaining revenge on Plegia for his reasoning, seeking allies, and focusing on real threats, he divided the continent with war... And their fans don't see their flaws.bad childhood.
15th Jan '17 3:16:19 PM WanderingBrowser
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* After the release of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', the Enclave went from being the most generally hated faction in the wasteland, as they were in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', to having a ''huge'' fandom, who [[RootingForTheEmpire consider them the best bet to lead the Capital Wasteland out of the darkness]]. This is partially explainable by the fact that Fallout 3 doesn't directly reference their origins as the insane and inbred descendants of the corrupt military and governmental elites who caused the great war, and tones down their genocidal inclinations from "standard operating procedure" to "providence of the somewhat crazed AI that's supposedly running the show". But, even then, the Enclave are still a bunch of brutal would-be tyrants and warlords who want to rule everything with an iron fist. It's just that the portrayal of the Capital Wasteland as, well, a wasteland full of raiders and super mutants makes some fans argue that their dominance would be a step ''up''.
** Not helping is that, in the subsequent game, you can find some [[TokenHeroicOrc non-evil survivors of the Enclave]] who will actively work for you if you desire, providing the best suit of power armor in the game and some of the most lethal combat assets, which only makes them seem more sympathetic and admirable to some players.

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* After the release of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', the Enclave went from being the most generally hated faction in the wasteland, as they were in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', to having a ''huge'' fandom, who [[RootingForTheEmpire consider them the best bet to lead the Capital Wasteland out of the darkness]]. This is partially explainable by the fact that Fallout 3 doesn't directly reference their origins as the insane and inbred descendants of the corrupt military and governmental elites who caused the great war, and tones down their genocidal inclinations from "standard operating procedure" to "providence of the somewhat crazed AI that's supposedly running the show". But, even then, the Enclave are still a bunch of brutal would-be tyrants and warlords who want to rule everything with an iron fist. It's just that the portrayal of the Capital Wasteland as, well, a wasteland full of raiders and super mutants makes some fans argue that their dominance would be a step ''up''.
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''up''. Not helping is that, in [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas the subsequent game, game]], you can find some [[TokenHeroicOrc non-evil survivors of the Enclave]] who will actively work for you if you desire, providing the best suit of power armor in the game and some of the most lethal combat assets, which only makes them seem more sympathetic and admirable to some players.players.
** Another misaimed fandom that springs from this game is for the Brotherhood of Steel. Introduced as an isolationist band of arrogant xenophobes who used theoretically noble claims of "protecting humanity from the abusive potential of technology" as an excuse to bully and steal all the tech they could in [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 1}} the first game]], a policy that had backfired on them by the second game. The third game introduced the Capital Wasteland Chapter, a banch of the Brotherhood that had explicitly broken away from the traditions and goals of their East Coast counterparts in order to serve as a power for good in the Capital Wasteland. They were so hugely popular that, despite the in-game characters explicitly saying they're a splinter-sect and not at all acting like the Brotherhood "should", newcomer fans were infuriated when the subsequent games showed more traditionalist sects, claiming that the New Vegas Chapter -- and especially the "restructured" Brotherhood from ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' -- were completely antithetical to what the Brotherhood "should" be like.
12th Jan '17 10:28:47 PM WanderingBrowser
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** Also, a lot of the same people gave us [[VideoGame/TheSims the Goth Family]].

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** Also, a lot of the same people gave us [[VideoGame/TheSims the Goth Family]].Family]].
* Although many of the Variants in ''VideoGame/{{Outlast}}'' have fans despite being disfigured psychopaths, the most stunning example of this in the Outlast fandom is that for Eddie Gluskin. Established in the game as criminally insane before the [[MindRape Morphogenic Engine experiments]], Gluskin is an unrepentant (to the point of [[IRejectYourReality refusing to accept the deaths of his victims even when presented with photographic evidence]]) SerialKiller who was responsible for the brutal murder and dismemberment of a number of innocent women before being caught, having butchered them after choosing them to become his "brides" only to be rejected. Further unhinged by the procedures he underwent, Gluskin's psychosis leads to him fixating on the idea that he can "make" a perfect bride from one of the men caught in the asylum with him, which leads to him trying to [[GroinAttack brutally castrate]] anyone he catches in hopes of then using the resultant wound as a vagina to start a family with. A huge fandom absolutely ''loves him'', taking his FauxAffablyEvil presentation of being a romantic, 50s-esque family man (ignoring how that's a thin veneer over a psychotic PoliticallyIncorrectVillain) and playing it absolutely straight, to the point of shipping him with the ''Whistleblower'' protagonist, a HappilyMarried straight man with two sons whom Eddie attempts to castrate with a table-saw and then tries to stab and hang for escaping. All because Eddie is [[DracoInLeatherPants handsome(ish) and feigns being romantic]], and because he has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving [[AbusiveParents being raped by his father & uncle as a child]]. This particular Misaimed Fandom is so vocal that it [[BrokenBase absolutely incenses those who don't buy into it]], especially since the game itself never portrays Eddie as being in the slightest sympathetic or anything other than a deranged murderer.
21st Dec '16 9:35:15 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Sephiroth from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' is a megalomaniacal BigBad who spends most of the game on a murderous killing spree (including [[ItWasHisSled famously]] and brutally slaying a [[PlotlineDeath beloved main character]]), pausing only to mock and psychologically manipulate Cloud. Because he does it with such style and is such a {{Badass}} PrettyBoy, fans have turned him into a DracoInLeatherPants (see that entry for more). In the original game, Sephiroth was, in fact, fairly decent, if aloof and a bit cold, during the Nibelheim flashback, set before he goes insane, a portrayal retained in prequels; naturally, this just adds fuel to the MisaimedFandom.

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*** Sephiroth from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' is a megalomaniacal BigBad who spends most of the game on a murderous killing spree (including [[ItWasHisSled famously]] and brutally slaying a [[PlotlineDeath beloved main character]]), pausing only to mock and psychologically manipulate Cloud. Because he does it with such style and is such a {{Badass}} badass PrettyBoy, fans have turned him into a DracoInLeatherPants (see that entry for more). In the original game, Sephiroth was, in fact, fairly decent, if aloof and a bit cold, during the Nibelheim flashback, set before he goes insane, a portrayal retained in prequels; naturally, this just adds fuel to the MisaimedFandom.
11th Dec '16 7:11:20 PM GlitteringFlowers
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** This "Naoto and Chihiro are trans* AND YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC IF YOU DISAGREE" mentality has become so strong that, when a Japanese trans woman [[http://impactrueno.tumblr.com/post/77563388353/nenilein-hisanakagami-fandomsandfeminism made a post on tumblr explaining why Chihiro Fujisaki wasn't intended to be trans*]], [[http://impactrueno.tumblr.com/post/77681286564/goodbye she was bullied, insulted, intentionally misgendered, called racist/homophobic/transphobic insults, etc.]] by enraged supporters of said mentality [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and had to shut down her Tumblr.]]
20th Oct '16 2:48:35 PM rjd1922
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* VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine is well-loved by fans of classic shooters (VideoGame/{{DOOM}}, Quake, et cetera) and non-military shooters as they see the game as an attack on the modern military genre and its fans, though lead writer Walt Williams has stated that is not the case, and that his actual intention was to make people question why they played shooters to begin with.

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* VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine'' is well-loved by fans of classic shooters (VideoGame/{{DOOM}}, Quake, (''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Quake}}'', et cetera) and non-military shooters as they see the game as an attack on the modern military genre and its fans, though lead writer Walt Williams has stated that is not the case, and that his actual intention was to make people question why they played shooters to begin with.
20th Oct '16 2:43:22 PM rjd1922
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** This "Naoto and Chihiro are trans* AND YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC IF YOU DISAGREE" mentality has become so strong that, when a Japanese trans woman [[http://impactrueno.tumblr.com/post/77563388353/nenilein-hisanakagami-fandomsandfeminism made a post on tumblr explaining why Chihiro Fujisaki wasn't intended to be trans*]], [[http://impactrueno.tumblr.com/post/77681286564/goodbye she was bullied, insulted, intentionally misgendered, called racist/homophobic/transphobic insults, etc.]] by enraged supporters of said mentality [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and had to shut down her tumblr.]]
** [[UnfortunateImplications It gets more disturbing]] when you analyze these fans's reasoning and see LOTS of gender roles-based bullshit and fetishization reflected in it. To them, apparently the only reason why a person of either gender would dress as someone from the opposite one is that he or she is trans*, and the fact that they are not must have been "totally tacked on" because the writers are transphobes. In few words, by slapping the word "trans sexual" on characters for crossdressing and/or liking things that society dictates as being proper of the opposite gender... '''these people are reinforcing the same gender stereotypes/roles they claim to hate'''. And critiques such as [[http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=6088 this one]] are, in many cases, coming from self-professed trans* gamers, which only makes things more disturbing.

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** This "Naoto and Chihiro are trans* AND YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC IF YOU DISAGREE" mentality has become so strong that, when a Japanese trans woman [[http://impactrueno.tumblr.com/post/77563388353/nenilein-hisanakagami-fandomsandfeminism made a post on tumblr explaining why Chihiro Fujisaki wasn't intended to be trans*]], [[http://impactrueno.tumblr.com/post/77681286564/goodbye she was bullied, insulted, intentionally misgendered, called racist/homophobic/transphobic insults, etc.]] by enraged supporters of said mentality [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and had to shut down her tumblr.Tumblr.]]
** [[UnfortunateImplications It gets more disturbing]] when you analyze these fans's reasoning and see LOTS of gender roles-based bullshit and fetishization reflected in it. To them, apparently the only reason why a person of either gender would dress as someone from the opposite one is that he or she is trans*, and the fact that they are not must have been "totally tacked on" because the writers are transphobes. In few words, by slapping the word "trans sexual" "transsexual" on characters for crossdressing and/or liking things that society dictates as being proper of the opposite gender... '''these people are reinforcing the same gender stereotypes/roles they claim to hate'''. And critiques such as [[http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=6088 this one]] are, in many cases, coming from self-professed trans* gamers, which only makes things more disturbing.
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