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15th Dec '15 2:36:35 AM MrThorfan64
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* Nazi and Neo-Nazi Wagner fans. Wagner was indeed anti-Semitic, but believed that Jews should assimilate culturally and convert to Christianity, not that they should be wiped off the face of the Earth. He had a number of Jewish friends, including conductors of his operas. But the association of Wagner with Nazism has become so ubiquitous that some people who don't check their facts think Wagner actually ''was'' a Nazi, despite the fact that he died before Hitler was even ''born.'' Some Jewish couples take this to the point of not playing Wagner's [[LohengrinAndMendelssohn most famous composition at their wedding]]. It doesn't help that Hitler himself saw Wagner's operas as ringing endorsements of Nazism, and that many of Wagner's descendants from that time were close friends of Hitler and approved of his interpretation.
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* Nazi and Neo-Nazi Wagner fans. Wagner was indeed anti-Semitic, but believed that Jews should assimilate culturally and convert to Christianity, not that they should be wiped off the face of the Earth. He had a number of Jewish friends, including conductors of his operas. But the association of Wagner with Nazism has become so ubiquitous that some people who don't check their facts think Wagner actually ''was'' a Nazi, despite the fact that he died before Hitler was even ''born.'' Some Jewish couples take this to the point of not playing Wagner's [[LohengrinAndMendelssohn most famous composition at their wedding]]. It doesn't help that Hitler himself saw Wagner's operas as ringing endorsements of Nazism, Nazism (though many of the other leading Nazis weren't fans of his operas), and that many of Wagner's descendants from that time were close friends of Hitler and approved of his interpretation.
27th Nov '15 9:14:37 AM enitharmon
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*** In Reading, England there's a pie shop called Sweeney & Todd with a barber's shop next door. The pies are very good.
31st Jul '15 3:23:12 PM phoenix
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* The Tea Party likes to use "Tomorrow Belongs To Me" from ''{{Cabaret}}'' as a rally song for "taking back the country." It is unknown how many of them know that the song was used to symbolically represent the rise of '''NaziGermany'''. (This is partly AdaptationDisplacement: in the stage version, the song only became associated with Nazis in a reprise.)
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* The Tea Party likes to use "Tomorrow Belongs To Me" from ''{{Cabaret}}'' as a rally song for "taking back the country." It is unknown how many of them know that the song was used to symbolically represent the rise of '''NaziGermany'''.'''UsefulNotes/NaziGermany'''. (This is partly AdaptationDisplacement: in the stage version, the song only became associated with Nazis in a reprise.)
31st Mar '15 7:35:13 AM Eilevgmyhren
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** Theatre/PeerGynt has got a ''lot'' of this. This spineless bastard of a cheating, slave-trading, troll-mating scrupulous liar has become somewhat of a Norwegian amalgam. His redemption at the end of the play doesn`t help much. The fact that Ibsen wished to ''satirize'' Norwegian attitudes seems to have been completely lost on later generations, and a "Peer Gynt reward" given yearly to somebody who has made Norway more known outside the country is a case in point. Not that people who actually read the play thoroughly doesn`t snark about this fact a lot.
22nd Jan '15 6:52:17 PM BigKlingy
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** "Doubt that the stars are fire, doubt that the sun doth move, doubt truth to be a liar, but never doubt I love" from the same play is actually an example of StylisticSuck, and yet it's become one of Shakespeare's most famous lines.
25th Oct '14 8:25:49 PM RainFairy
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* Creator/HenrikIbsen's intention in Theatre/ADollsHouse was to show that HumansAreFlawed '''no matter what their gender/social class/etc. are'''. Allegedly, when a group of Norwegian feminists praised the play in words that sounded a lot like what radfems say in modern times, Ibsen's reaction was a "... wait, what?!".
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* Creator/HenrikIbsen's intention in Theatre/ADollsHouse was to show that HumansAreFlawed '''no matter what their gender/social class/etc. are'''. Allegedly, when a group of Norwegian feminists praised the play in words that sounded a lot like what radfems say in modern times, Ibsen's reaction was summed up in a "... wait, what?!".FlatWhat.
29th Aug '14 11:24:51 AM TrustBen
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* In Creator/JohannWolfgangVonGoethe's version of ''Theatre/{{Faust}}'', there's a scene in the restaurant "Auerbach's Cellar" where Faust and Mephistopheles meet a group of drunken students. One of them states "I praise my Leipzig! It's a little Paris and educates its people." Later used verbatim by many fans of the city in Saxony; however, they all forget that the guy saying this is drunken, as said, and also named "Bürger Frosch" (citizen frog), and rather supposed to be a JerkAss like ArchieBunker. Oh wait, Bunker actually had the same problem.
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* In Creator/JohannWolfgangVonGoethe's version of ''Theatre/{{Faust}}'', there's a scene in the restaurant "Auerbach's Cellar" where Faust and Mephistopheles meet a group of drunken students. One of them states "I praise my Leipzig! It's a little Paris and educates its people." Later used verbatim by many fans of the city in Saxony; however, they all forget that the guy saying this is drunken, as said, and also named "Bürger Frosch" (citizen frog), and rather supposed to be a JerkAss like ArchieBunker.[[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]]. Oh wait, Bunker actually had the same problem.
20th Jun '14 3:51:35 AM Venatius
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Fails from the very second word of the description of Straw Feminist: "Character"
* Creator/HenrikIbsen's intention in Theatre/ADollsHouse was to show that HumansAreFlawed '''no matter what their gender/social class/etc. are'''. Allegedly, when a group of Norwegian feminists praised the play in words that sounded a lot like what [[StrawFeminist radfems]] say in modern times, Ibsen's reaction was a "... wait, what?!".
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* Creator/HenrikIbsen's intention in Theatre/ADollsHouse was to show that HumansAreFlawed '''no matter what their gender/social class/etc. are'''. Allegedly, when a group of Norwegian feminists praised the play in words that sounded a lot like what [[StrawFeminist radfems]] radfems say in modern times, Ibsen's reaction was a "... wait, what?!".
30th May '14 12:09:03 PM reconditarmonia
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source? it's followed by "thou canst not then be false to any man"
*** Actually, the problem with that line is that too many people don't understand what it means. They think Polonius is telling his son "Just be yourself." What he's actually saying is "Keep your own counsel. Don't tell anyone else what you are really thinking. Be true, i.e., truthful, only to yourself." That advice is of course completely in keeping with Polonius' character; there is no irony to it whatsoever.
1st Mar '14 9:11:22 AM TheDocCC
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** Falstaff, a lazy fat drunk whose main purpose in the ''Theatre/HenryIV'' trilogy was to show how dissipated Prince Hal really was, became so popular that (according to legend) Shakespeare was asked by Elizabeth I to write a comedy around him, which is how we got ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor''. (The Queen probably didn't make that request, but she might as well have; audiences really were clamouring to see more of Falstaff.)
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** Falstaff, a lazy fat drunk whose main purpose in the ''Theatre/HenryIV'' trilogy was to show how dissipated Prince Hal really was, became so popular that (according to legend) Shakespeare was asked by Elizabeth I to write a comedy around him, which is how we got ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor''. (The Queen probably didn't make that request, but she might as well have; audiences really were clamouring clamoring to see more of Falstaff.)) *** Though Falstaff's devastating critiques of war, martial glory, and honor resonate so heavily that some readers forgive him his faults because his faults ''don't send untold numbers to be killed''. This claim can't be made of Henry and the others. Falstaff's amazing take-down of Henry and honor [[http://audiopoetry.wordpress.com/2006/05/09/falstaffs-honour-speech/ here]] is simply brilliant.
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