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28th Mar '18 8:54:43 AM LondonKdS
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** The above-alluded-to DumbIsGood interpretations of the canon lead certain Slytherin fans to treat the Gryffindors as {{Jerk Jock}}s and the Slytherins as the sympathetic outcast alternative/arty kids. This mainly comes from American fans, who project the "Jocks vs. Nerds" dynamic common in US high school and middle school works on the series, when ''Potter'' runs on the very different character conventions of British BoardingSchool stories, and can't believe that Harry can be a talented athlete and still be an underdog in social terms.

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** The above-alluded-to DumbIsGood interpretations of the canon lead certain Slytherin fans to treat the Gryffindors as {{Jerk Jock}}s and the Slytherins as the sympathetic outcast alternative/arty kids. This mainly comes from American fans, who project the "Jocks vs. Nerds" dynamic common in US high school and middle school works on the series, and can't believe that Harry can be a talented athlete and still be an underdog in social terms, when ''Potter'' runs on the very different character conventions of British BoardingSchool stories, and can't believe that Harry can be a talented athlete and still be an underdog in social terms.stories.
25th Mar '18 6:59:18 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Many readers of ''Literature/MansfieldPark'' agree with Edmund that Mary Crawford is a sassy, lively, witty, attractive girl... but unlike Edmund, ignore the emerging signs of her disrespect for him, her completely unreasonable expectation that he will change his life path and career choice based on her wishes if he loves her, and her value of money over love that extends to wishing his older ill brother dead. Likewise, the quiet, stoic, obedient Fanny Price finally shows her inner strength, resolve, and independence when she refuses to marry her StalkerWithACrush, yet most of her readers only remember her as the pre-CharacterDevelopment ExtremeDoormat. To say nothing of the shippers who think [[StalkingIsLove she should have accepted him]]. It seems readers still only judge both women based on what they initially appear on the surface before the novel digs deeper, despite the danger of ''first impressions'' as a running theme in Creator/JaneAusten.
** Joan Aiken's sequel ''Return to Mansfield'' even brings back the Crawfords and gives them a more sympathetic development.
** In all fairness, Austen herself did say that it was entirely possible that Fanny and Henry could have ended up HappilyMarried, which would have led to Edmund and Mary getting married and being happy together as well. Even so, Austen also said that such an ending only would have happened after time had passed and Henry had reformed himself [[LoveRedeems due to Fanny's influence]]. At the point the book ended at, Fanny and Edmund would not have been happy with Henry or Mary.

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* Creator/JaneAusten, one of the preeminent romantic writers in English literature, gets this quite a bit:
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Many readers of ''Literature/MansfieldPark'' agree with Edmund that Mary Crawford is a sassy, lively, witty, attractive girl... but unlike Edmund, ignore the emerging signs of her disrespect for him, her completely unreasonable expectation that he will change his life path and career choice based on her wishes if he loves her, and her value of money over love that extends to wishing his older ill brother dead. Likewise, the quiet, stoic, obedient Fanny Price finally shows her inner strength, resolve, and independence when she refuses to marry her StalkerWithACrush, yet most of her readers only remember her as the pre-CharacterDevelopment ExtremeDoormat. To say nothing of the shippers who think [[StalkingIsLove she should have accepted him]]. It seems readers still only judge both women based on what they initially appear on the surface before the novel digs deeper, despite the danger of ''first impressions'' as a running theme in Creator/JaneAusten.
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Jane Austen.
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Joan Aiken's sequel ''Return to Mansfield'' even brings back the Crawfords and gives them a more sympathetic development.
** *** In all fairness, Austen herself did say that it was entirely possible that Fanny and Henry could have ended up HappilyMarried, which would have led to Edmund and Mary getting married and being happy together as well. Even so, Austen also said that such an ending only would have happened after time had passed and Henry had reformed himself [[LoveRedeems due to Fanny's influence]]. At the point the book ended at, Fanny and Edmund would not have been happy with Henry or Mary.Mary.
** ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'': Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy are often cited as the quintessential BelligerentSexualTension couple -- passionate dislike is just a mask for passionate love. But Elizabeth herself tells her first suitor Mr. Collins (whom she legitimately cannot stand) that [[TakeThat this is a ridiculous notion]] and sometimes, no; not everyone who claims to dislike someone is in denial (otherwise, she may just as well have feelings for Mr. Collins!). A paragraph comparing Elizabeth's changing feelings for Wickham and Darcy clearly shows that the initial conflict between the OfficialCouple was just supposed to show how feelings can evolve in the real world as opposed to the FairyTale LoveAtFirstSight. Dislike ''can'' evolve into love; nowhere does anyone imply dislike automatically equals love... except Mr. Collins.
*** A relationship guide, ''Dating Mr. Darcy: A Girl's guide to Sensible Romance'', missed that the whole point of ''Pride and Prejudice'' is that both Elizabeth and Darcy have to re-examine themselves and change in order to be better people, and better for each other. Instead, you get this gem of a book description:
--->Any girl who has seen Pride and Prejudice or read the Jane Austen novel knows that the much misunderstood Mr. Darcy is the ideal gentleman. But is it possible to find your own Mr. Darcy in today's world of geeks and goons?...Best-selling author Sarah Arthur equips young women to gauge a guy's Darcy Potential (DP) according to his relationships with family, friends, and God.
*** Far from being the perfect, misunderstood romantic ideal his fangirls tend to swoon over him as being, ''Mr. Darcy himself'' admits to Elizabeth that a significant part of her earlier dislike and condemnation of him was entirely justified, that he actually was a disdainful snob (albeit to not quite the extent Elizabeth had presupposed), and that he genuinely did have to work at taking her criticisms on board and improving his character in order to earn her affection.
*** In a different ''Pride and Prejudice'' example, the English £10 note design introduced in 2017 and celebrating Jane Austen bears the quotation "I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading!". Austen fans immediately pointed out that the sentence in the novel is said by an unsympathetic character and depicted as hypocritical.
** Austen's works in general have also attracted [[https://www.chronicle.com/article/Alt-Right-Jane-Austen/239435 alt-right fans]], of all things, who view her work as a celebration of sexual purity, traditional marriage, white virtue, and old-fashioned social mores... even though Austen's work often viciously ''satirized'' the culture and romantic norms of RegencyEngland, the well-bred aristocrats more often than not portrayed as ignorant boors and scoundrels for whom money and breeding did not buy class. One academic scholar of Austen said that the only one of her characters who might have sympathized with the alt-right would be Mrs Norris from ''Mansfield Park'', Fanny Price’s cruel and snobbish aunt.



* ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'': Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy are often cited as the quintessential BelligerentSexualTension couple -- passionate dislike is just a mask for passionate love. But Elizabeth herself tells her first suitor Mr. Collins (whom she legitimately cannot stand) that [[TakeThat this is a ridiculous notion]] and sometimes, no; not everyone who claims to dislike someone is in denial (otherwise, she may just as well have feelings for Mr. Collins!). A paragraph comparing Elizabeth's changing feelings for Wickham and Darcy clearly shows that the initial conflict between the OfficialCouple was just supposed to show how feelings can evolve in the real world as opposed to the FairyTale LoveAtFirstSight. Dislike ''can'' evolve into love; nowhere does anyone imply dislike automatically equals love... except Mr. Collins.
** A relationship guide, ''Dating Mr. Darcy: A Girl's guide to Sensible Romance'', missed that the whole point of ''Pride and Prejudice'' is that both Elizabeth and Darcy have to re-examine themselves and change in order to be better people, and better for each other. Instead, you get this gem of a book description:
--->Any girl who has seen Pride and Prejudice or read the Jane Austen novel knows that the much misunderstood Mr. Darcy is the ideal gentleman. But is it possible to find your own Mr. Darcy in today's world of geeks and goons?...Best-selling author Sarah Arthur equips young women to gauge a guy's Darcy Potential (DP) according to his relationships with family, friends, and God.
** Far from being the perfect, misunderstood romantic ideal his fangirls tend to swoon over him as being, ''Mr. Darcy himself'' admits to Elizabeth that a significant part of her earlier dislike and condemnation of him was entirely justified, that he actually was a disdainful snob (albeit to not quite the extent Elizabeth had presupposed), and that he genuinely did have to work at taking her criticisms on board and improving his character in order to earn her affection.
** In a different ''Pride and Prejudice'' example, the English £10 note design introduced in 2017 and celebrating Jane Austen bears the quotation "I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading!". Austen fans immediately pointed out that the sentence in the novel is said by an unsympathetic character and depicted as hypocritical.
21st Mar '18 12:14:43 PM GeniusInTheLamp
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** Libertarian economist Henry Hazlitt included ''1984'' in his list of recommended books compiled in ''The Freeman's Library''. However, Hazlitt does point out Orwell's democratic socialism, and says that Orwell's ideology logically lead to the book having its DownerEnding.
7th Feb '18 10:54:19 PM lvthn13
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* TheSeaWolf by JackLondon developed this from the beginning. The book revolves around an ethical conflict - played out in arguments and events - between the protagonist, a laughably naive academic who admits to never doing a day's work in his life, whose arguments in defense of human dignity all pretty much boil down to "the soul", while the antagonist is a self-made sea captain who mixes incredible physical strength with self-taught intelligence who makes an essentially nihilist argument while backing it up with logical reasons. Of course, said captain is an incredibly brutal tyrant who will gladly throw a person into the sea if he has no further use for them, but given that he's arguing against a detestable milksop (who further earns reader hatred by wasting the last third of the book with a nearly unreadable romance subplot), he easily wins the most fans. Even contemporary critic and author of note AmbroseBierce commented that Larsen is by far the most likable character in the book.
13th Jan '18 4:51:42 AM ScandalousWaheela
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* Author, chef, and (later in life) TV host Creator/AnthonyBourdain laments that his memoir, ''Literature/KitchenConfidential'', has a substantial chunk of this. Many men who went into cooking have told him that they wanted the sort of debauched and semi-dangerous life he describes in the book as defining his early career - even though Bourdain also describes in detail the wasted years of professional advancement, painful battles with drug addiction, and years of abject poverty that his early debauched lifestyle caused him.
8th Jan '18 6:15:44 PM MasterN
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* There are fanfics for ''Literature/BridgeToTerabithia'' where Jesse dies or even commits suicide, [[EsotericHappyEnding which is treated as a good thing since he can finally be with Leslie]]. This is in spite of the book and film's rather blatant "Live life to the fullest, no matter what it throws at you" message, and given Leslie's [[ManicPixieDreamGirl personality]], she'd be likely to slap him silly if he even thought of suicide.
** That more than half of the fics for this fandom revive Leslie/reveal she never died/take place in an AlternateUniverse where she never even had her accident can be considered this as well, considering that the book has a pro-coping with death moral and Leslie was based on a real child who actually died.

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* There are fanfics for ''Literature/BridgeToTerabithia'' where Jesse [[spoiler:Jesse dies or even commits suicide, [[EsotericHappyEnding which is treated as a good thing since he can finally be with Leslie]]. Leslie]]]]. This is in spite of the book and film's rather blatant "Live life to the fullest, no matter what it throws at you" message, and given Leslie's [[ManicPixieDreamGirl personality]], she'd be likely to slap him silly if he even thought of suicide.
[[spoiler:suicide]].
** That more than half of the fics for this fandom revive [[spoiler:revive Leslie/reveal she never died/take place in an AlternateUniverse where she never even had her accident accident]] can be considered this as well, considering that the [[spoiler:the book has a pro-coping with death moral and Leslie was based on a real child who actually died.died]].
2nd Jan '18 3:27:50 PM SpukiKitty
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*** Also; Considering all the way deregulated companies find ways to cut costs (often at the determent of product safety, environment, etc.) wouldn't it be a better idea to have an independent third party inspect a business than the business itself?
11th Dec '17 6:16:14 PM nombretomado
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* "The White Man's Burden" by Creator/RudyardKipling is a case of MisaimedFandom ''and'' Misaimed Hatedom. This point-missing is aggravated by the prints forgetting its "dedication" line. That's like forgetting to supply dynamite with a detonator, because this was "An Address to the United States" published on the heels of the Philippine War. If you don't see the trouble yet, read Creator/MarkTwain's articles about it. Or imagine that [[Literature/CatchTwentyTwo Joseph Heller]] with his reputation lived to 2006, and dropped in a big conference with "{{DRM}} and laws" in the middle of its order paper... to read his new poem with "Sony Rootkit" in the dedication and "I think Microsoft is pretty cool" in the text. Some could take it seriously, more as vicious irony, some like, some not -- but ''no'' chance this would ''not'' [[FlameBait provoke an untold riot then and there]]. The author of ''Stalky'' and ''Pig'' should have known what he did was {{troll}}eriffic. But [[SerialEscalation just in case it wasn't enough]], he also did publically "bequeath" UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire's role to the people looking for contrasts with it and still remembering UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution.

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* "The White Man's Burden" by Creator/RudyardKipling is a case of MisaimedFandom ''and'' Misaimed Hatedom. This point-missing is aggravated by the prints forgetting its "dedication" line. That's like forgetting to supply dynamite with a detonator, because this was "An Address to the United States" published on the heels of the Philippine War. If you don't see the trouble yet, read Creator/MarkTwain's articles about it. Or imagine that [[Literature/CatchTwentyTwo Joseph Heller]] with his reputation lived to 2006, and dropped in a big conference with "{{DRM}} "UsefulNotes/{{DRM}} and laws" in the middle of its order paper... to read his new poem with "Sony Rootkit" in the dedication and "I think Microsoft is pretty cool" in the text. Some could take it seriously, more as vicious irony, some like, some not -- but ''no'' chance this would ''not'' [[FlameBait provoke an untold riot then and there]]. The author of ''Stalky'' and ''Pig'' should have known what he did was {{troll}}eriffic. But [[SerialEscalation just in case it wasn't enough]], he also did publically "bequeath" UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire's role to the people looking for contrasts with it and still remembering UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution.
7th Dec '17 8:18:25 PM TheMountainKing
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* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'': Many people who are politically on the right cite Creator/GeorgeOrwell's classic as an argument against leftist social programs, which they would see as the creation of a "nanny state". This ignores that George Orwell was an outspoken democratic socialist, and that ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' was written to criticize totalitarianism (specifically Stalinism) and trends toward it among ''certain segments'' of the left - not liberalism in general, which Orwell viewed as not leftist enough. Orwell may have agreed with them to an extent on politically correct language though, since he was a strong proponent of clarity of speech. [[WordOfGod Orwell himself]] directly refuted claims that he was entirely anti-socialist in his own writings.

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* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'': Many people who are politically on the right cite Creator/GeorgeOrwell's classic as an argument against leftist social programs, which they would see as the creation of a "nanny state". This ignores that George Orwell was an outspoken democratic socialist, and that ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' was written to criticize totalitarianism (specifically Stalinism) and trends toward it among ''certain segments'' of the left - not liberalism leftism in general, which Orwell viewed as not leftist enough. Orwell may have agreed with them to an extent on politically correct language though, since he was a strong proponent of clarity of speech. [[WordOfGod Orwell himself]] directly refuted claims that he was entirely anti-socialist in his own writings.
5th Nov '17 12:48:52 AM LaughingGiraffe
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** Some people have claimed that criticism of racism is equivalent to charges of thoughtcrime (i.e., the "crime" of not being 100% in agreement with Big Brother, even if one never acts on or even speaks of this disagreement). Orwell himself was profoundly anti-colonialist by the standards of his time, and found the prevailing attitudes of the English towards the people of colour whom the British Empire ruled over to be heinous.
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