History MisaimedFandom / Literature

23rd Sep '16 11:52:45 AM drwhom
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** The co-opting of ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' by American Conservatives and the Tea Party would be another example of Misaimed Fandom. While her work was favorable of (self-made) millionaires, it also negatively depicted [=CEO=]s that made money relying on favorable government deals. Not to mention her ardent atheism led her to hate the Religious Right. Not that it doesn't stop pundits like Sean Hannity from making a cameo in the movie adaptation.

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** The co-opting of ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' by American Conservatives and the Tea Party would be another example of Misaimed Fandom. While her work was favorable of (self-made) millionaires, it also negatively depicted [=CEO=]s that made money relying on favorable government deals. Not to mention her ardent atheism and her pro-choice view on abortion led her to hate the Religious Right. Not that it doesn't stop pundits like Sean Hannity from making a cameo in the movie adaptation.
23rd Sep '16 11:39:47 AM drwhom
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** The co-opting of ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' by American Conservatives and the Tea Party would be another example of Misaimed Fandom. While her work was favorable of (self-made) millionaires, it also negatively depicted [=CEO=]s that made money relying on favorable government deals. Not to mention her ardent atheism would be at odds with the Religious Right. Not that it doesn't stop pundits like Sean Hannity from making a cameo in the movie adaptation.

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** The co-opting of ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' by American Conservatives and the Tea Party would be another example of Misaimed Fandom. While her work was favorable of (self-made) millionaires, it also negatively depicted [=CEO=]s that made money relying on favorable government deals. Not to mention her ardent atheism would be at odds with led her to hate the Religious Right. Not that it doesn't stop pundits like Sean Hannity from making a cameo in the movie adaptation.
29th Aug '16 4:06:31 PM Nicoaln
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** Similarly, more [[HumansAreBastard misanthropic]] readers thought that the Ludovico Technique ''should'' be used for the fact that they saw their own tormentors faces in Alex and his gang.

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** Similarly, more [[HumansAreBastard [[HumansAreBastards misanthropic]] readers thought that the Ludovico Technique ''should'' be used for the fact that they saw their own tormentors faces in Alex and his gang.
29th Aug '16 4:05:49 PM Nicoaln
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** Similarly, more [[HumansAreBastard misanthropic]] readers thought that the Ludovico Technique ''should'' be used for the fact that they saw their own tormentors faces in Alex and his gang.
13th Aug '16 1:15:13 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/FriedrichNietzsche's writings were enthusiastically endorsed by Hitler's regime, particularly his concept of the Overman (''übermensch''), as a philosophical buttress for Nazism's ideals of "Aryan" supremacy and anti-Semitism. Nietzsche's Overman concept was an ideal for the ''individual'' to strive towards and had nothing to do with the pseudo-scientific "Aryan race" doctrines of his time. Furthermore, although Nietzsche wasn't ''pro''-Jewish, he hated German anti-Semitic groups with a passion. The MisaimedFandom was caused by Nietzsche's sister, who ''was'' an active anti-Semite, editing her brother's works to conform to her own views after he was too demented to know about it. It also didn't help that the best student of Nietzsche's philosophy, [[DichterAndDenker Martin Heidegger]], actually ''was'' a card-carrying member of the NSDAP, and not just for the benefits; he never repented for having joined the party, although he did comment that he had joined under the mistaken assumption that Hitler would help in the program of "awakening" the German people to a better future (Hitler didn't) and that the Nazis stood for anything other than hating "non-Aryans" (Heidegger didn't, and actually had quite the case of MatzoFever). Sadly, during and for some time after WorldWarTwo, Nietzsche had an undeservedly bad reputation in much of the world as a proto-Nazi -- hence the existence of the NietzscheWannabe trope.

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* Creator/FriedrichNietzsche's writings were enthusiastically endorsed by Hitler's regime, particularly his concept of the Overman (''übermensch''), as a philosophical buttress for Nazism's ideals of "Aryan" supremacy and anti-Semitism. Nietzsche's Overman concept was an ideal for the ''individual'' to strive towards and had nothing to do with the pseudo-scientific "Aryan race" doctrines of his time. Furthermore, although Nietzsche wasn't ''pro''-Jewish, he hated German anti-Semitic groups with a passion. The MisaimedFandom was caused by Nietzsche's sister, who ''was'' an active anti-Semite, editing her brother's works to conform to her own views after he was too demented to know about it. It also didn't help that the best student of Nietzsche's philosophy, [[DichterAndDenker [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker Martin Heidegger]], actually ''was'' a card-carrying member of the NSDAP, and not just for the benefits; he never repented for having joined the party, although he did comment that he had joined under the mistaken assumption that Hitler would help in the program of "awakening" the German people to a better future (Hitler didn't) and that the Nazis stood for anything other than hating "non-Aryans" (Heidegger didn't, and actually had quite the case of MatzoFever). Sadly, during and for some time after WorldWarTwo, Nietzsche had an undeservedly bad reputation in much of the world as a proto-Nazi -- hence the existence of the NietzscheWannabe trope.
2nd Aug '16 11:47:48 PM sonicsuns3
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*** Actually, scholars disagree on what the moral of the play is really supposed to be. You put it as "Young love is foolish and it will get you killed", but you could just as well say that it's "Blood feuds between rival families are awful and they get in the way of True Love."
22nd Jul '16 4:50:18 AM Anddrix
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** Ashfur is a BaseBreaker in general, and WordOfGod states that [[GreyAndGreyMorality this was intentional]]. As always, though, there's a minority of Ashfur fans who claim that he was justified in trying to murder [[spoiler:Squirrelflight's father and children]] to make her feel the same pain he had. [[SarcasmMode It doesn't]] ''[[SarcasmMode matter]]'' [[SarcasmMode that he's killing innocent cats to get his revenge, because]] ''[[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Squirrelflight]]]] [[SarcasmMode was mean to him!]]''

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** Ashfur is a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter in general, and WordOfGod states that [[GreyAndGreyMorality this was intentional]]. As always, though, there's a minority of Ashfur fans who claim that he was justified in trying to murder [[spoiler:Squirrelflight's father and children]] to make her feel the same pain he had. [[SarcasmMode It doesn't]] ''[[SarcasmMode matter]]'' [[SarcasmMode that he's killing innocent cats to get his revenge, because]] ''[[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Squirrelflight]]]] [[SarcasmMode was mean to him!]]''
10th Jul '16 11:56:39 AM BenOfHouston
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** In the end, though, it isn't as bad as other examples, as while it didn't promote his socialist views as well, it at least did cause several of the more egregious worker safety issues he raised to be addressed.
7th Jul '16 11:35:59 PM ShorinBJ
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*** On the other hand, Snape's love for Lily is arguably more of an obsession than actual love. He is willing to sacrifice her husband and baby just so she survives, no matter how devastating that would be for her, and there are hints that most of his more heroic actions are because of Lily rather than due to any moral reasons. He also doesn't seem to regret his time with Voldemort or Voldemort's plan to kill a child (and probably it's family) until he learns it's Lily's. This is not to mention that he is a very unpleasant person (something J.K. Rowling herself said) who bullied Neville and Hermione for no reason starting when they were 11 years old.
** Some people like Tom Riddle because of his attractiveness and charm and will excuse his actions, especially those from his childhood, because he was an orphan. This is all despite the fact that Riddle used these exact things to garner sympathy and hide his sociopathy in-universe, enabling himself to pass as the BadAssBookWorm his fans think he is.

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*** On the other hand, Snape's love for Lily is arguably more of an obsession than actual love. He is willing to sacrifice her husband and baby just so she survives, no matter how devastating that would be for her, and there are hints that most of his more heroic actions are because of Lily rather than due to any moral reasons. He also doesn't seem to regret his time with Voldemort or Voldemort's plan to kill a child (and probably it's its family) until he learns it's Lily's. This is not to mention that he is a very unpleasant person (something J.K. Rowling herself said) who bullied Neville and Hermione for no reason starting when they were 11 years old.
** Some people like Tom Riddle because of his attractiveness and charm and will excuse his actions, especially those from his childhood, because he was an orphan. This is all despite the fact that Riddle used these exact things to garner sympathy and hide his sociopathy in-universe, enabling himself to pass as the BadAssBookWorm BadassBookworm his fans think he is.



** There is a large part of the fandom who have claimed that Harry and Co. should've just sniped Voldemort due to [[GodNeverSaidThat unsubstantiated rumors]] that J. K. Rowling said that a Muggle with a shotgun will generally beat a wizard

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** There is a large part of the fandom who have claimed that Harry and Co. should've just sniped Voldemort due to [[GodNeverSaidThat unsubstantiated rumors]] that J. K. Rowling said that a Muggle with a shotgun will generally beat a wizardwizard.



** And then there was the [[note]]"the" as in: the only that has a fairly large media standing - of course there are countless sects and factions [[/note]] German extreme left who absolutely ''loved'' the book. (No, it isn't ''just'' subtext about [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Lord 'Dolfemort]], which might be intended by the author. It's more the racist antiracism: [[UnfortunateImplications "Slytherin are born evil by nature".]] Replace "Slytherin" by "German" and you have the official party line of selfsame extreme left.)

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** And then there was the [[note]]"the" as in: the only that has a fairly large media standing - of course there are countless sects and factions [[/note]] German extreme left who absolutely ''loved'' the book. (No, it isn't ''just'' subtext about [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Lord 'Dolfemort]], which might be intended by the author. It's more the racist antiracism: [[UnfortunateImplications "Slytherin are born evil by nature".]] nature,"]][[note]]Which isn't at ''all'' true[[/note]] Replace "Slytherin" by with "German" and you have the official party line of selfsame extreme left.)



** [[WordOfGod Rowling herself was disturbed]] to find that there were fans who considered Bellatrix Lestrange, Voldemort's sociopathic [[TheDragon second-in-command]], to be a pro-feminist character and regarded [[spoiler: her defeat at the hands of [[ApronMatron housewife Molly Weasley]]]] to be a sign of [[BoomerangBigot internalized misogyny on Rowling's part]]. Rowling pointed out that while Bellatrix is the best fighter of the female cast, she is also slavishly devoted to, and willing to commit murder, kidnapping, and torture for, ''a man'' who will never reciprocate her feelings.

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** [[WordOfGod Rowling herself was disturbed]] to find that there were fans who considered Bellatrix Lestrange, Voldemort's sociopathic [[TheDragon second-in-command]], to be a pro-feminist character and regarded [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her defeat at the hands of [[ApronMatron housewife Molly Weasley]]]] to be a sign of [[BoomerangBigot internalized misogyny on Rowling's part]]. Rowling pointed out that while Bellatrix is the best fighter of the female cast, she is also slavishly devoted to, and willing to commit murder, kidnapping, and torture for, ''a man'' who will never reciprocate her feelings.



** ''Many'' fans, like the Capitol crowd, were completely star-struck by the love triangles, intense action sequences and pretty costumes, to the point where ''wanting to be a tribute'' became the new "wanting to attend [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]". The [[WarIsHell final book]] didn't go over too well with these people. A lot of fanfiction involves sending [[SailorEarth OCs]] to the Hunger Games, and it's treated like a fun game rather than a dehumanizing death-match. Oddly, few of them ever get the real violence; they usually just hang around making OC's, reaping, and maybe chariots/interview scenes.

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** ''Many'' fans, like the Capitol crowd, were completely star-struck by the love triangles, intense action sequences and pretty costumes, to the point where ''wanting to be a tribute'' became the new "wanting to attend [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]". The [[WarIsHell final book]] didn't go over too well with these people. A lot of fanfiction involves sending [[SailorEarth OCs]] to the Hunger Games, and it's treated like a fun game rather than a dehumanizing death-match. Oddly, few of them ever get the real violence; they usually just hang around making OC's, OCs, reaping, and maybe chariots/interview scenes.



*** Considering that the wall in question is mentioned as routinely violated by hunters and other trespassers, this interpretation is somewhat exagerated.

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*** Considering that the wall in question is mentioned as routinely violated by hunters and other trespassers, this interpretation is somewhat exagerated.exaggerated.



** Not to mention, if Lisbeth ''was'' explicitely said to be a feminist... wouldn't the aforementioned "going out of the way to beat up misogynistic pigs" "confirm" the (untrue) belief that [[StrawFeminist "all feminists]] [[DoesNotLikeMen are man haters"]]? If it did, it could go straight into UnfortunateImplications since that's one of the ugliest stereotypes about feminism as a whole.

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** Not to mention, if Lisbeth ''was'' explicitely explicitly said to be a feminist... wouldn't the aforementioned "going out of the way to beat up misogynistic pigs" "confirm" the (untrue) belief that [[StrawFeminist "all feminists]] [[DoesNotLikeMen are man haters"]]? If it did, it could go straight into UnfortunateImplications since that's one of the ugliest stereotypes about feminism as a whole.
30th Apr '16 8:45:58 AM LordOfTheSword
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** Tolkein also had a fierce hatred of {{Allegory}}, where people thought that events from the book were based on real life events, but heavily favored {{Applicability}}, or putting the messages of the book to use in the reader's own life. Despite this, most people who studied it in the day (and currently as well) used allegory to explain the book, much to Tolkein's annoyance. He wrote many letters angrily saying how people were missing the ''entire message'' of his book, but eventually despaired of being able to change people's minds, since using his book as allegory had already become so ingrained.

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** Tolkein Tolkien also had a fierce hatred of {{Allegory}}, where people thought that events from the book were based on real life events, but heavily favored {{Applicability}}, or putting the messages of the book to use in the reader's own life. Despite this, most people who studied it in the day (and currently as well) used allegory to explain the book, much to Tolkein's Tolkien's annoyance. He wrote many letters angrily saying how people were missing the ''entire message'' of his book, but eventually despaired of being able to change people's minds, since using his book as allegory had already become so ingrained.
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