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1st May '18 10:56:13 PM PhantomRider
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* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' in general isn't necessarily immune to this. Mark Waid's Justice League story ''Tower of Babel'' was designed to criticize the character's prep time paranoia tendencies by [[spoiler:showing that he'd secretly been thinking up ways to kill or incapacitate his Justice League allies for years, only to have them fall into the wrong hands, thus placing the entire world in jeopardy]], but unfortunately all some fans came away with was "BATMAN'S THE SMARTEST, MOST BAD ASS HERO EVER!!!"

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* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' in general isn't necessarily immune to this. Mark Waid's Justice League story ''Tower of Babel'' was designed to criticize the character's [[CrazyPrepared prep time paranoia tendencies tendencies]] by [[spoiler:showing that he'd secretly been thinking up ways to kill or incapacitate his Justice League allies for years, only to have them fall into the wrong hands, thus placing the entire world in jeopardy]], but unfortunately all some fans came away with was "BATMAN'S THE SMARTEST, MOST BAD ASS HERO EVER!!!"EVER!!!" Of course, it falls into similar territory as the Punisher, only ''more'' justifiable: every superhero has at least one mind-controlling villain, at least one villain with the same power(s) as the hero, and at least one instance of losing their way and going at least a ''little'' too dark. Knowing what you'd do if you had to fight one of your teammates is ''common sense.'' (Now, actually writing the manual and failing to keep it out of the bad guys' hands is another story.)
22nd Feb '18 6:53:40 AM TheMountainKing
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** Furthermore, [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Dykes_to_Watch_Out_For_%28Bechdel_test_origin%29.jpg the original comic]] (which appeared in a collection called ''Dykes to Watch Out For'' and was described by the author as "a little lesbian joke") was more about compulsory heterosexuality in media - obviously, it's next to impossible to find a movie that depicts a romantic relationship between women if there's barely any movies that depict them in ''platonic'' relationships. That most people don't know this ''really'' speaks about the degree of mis-aiming that's occurred.

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** Furthermore, [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Dykes_to_Watch_Out_For_%28Bechdel_test_origin%29.jpg the original comic]] (which appeared in a collection called ''Dykes to Watch Out For'' ''ComicBook/DykesToWatchOutFor'' and was described by the author as "a little lesbian joke") was more about compulsory heterosexuality in media - obviously, it's next to impossible to find a movie that depicts a romantic relationship between women if there's barely any movies that depict them in ''platonic'' relationships. That most people don't know this ''really'' speaks about the degree of mis-aiming that's occurred.
21st Jan '18 11:37:52 PM StrixObscuro
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* ''Comicbook/{{Icon}}'' was written by the late great Dwayne McDuffie and had a massive big name fan in the form of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. The problem: Dwayne McDuffie ''did not like'' Clarence Thomas, calling him Scalia's Lapdog among other insults. It was to a point the fandom of Justice Thomas gave McDuffie ''writers block'' with the question of if he was just giving Scalia and the black neoconservative movement quotes (as Icon was written as a conservative hero to contrast with a younger, liberal partner in Rocket).

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* ''Comicbook/{{Icon}}'' was written by the late great Dwayne McDuffie Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and had a massive big name fan in the form of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. The problem: Dwayne McDuffie [=McDuffie=] ''did not like'' Clarence Thomas, calling him Scalia's Lapdog among other insults. It was to a point the fandom of Justice Thomas gave McDuffie [=McDuffie=] ''writers block'' with the question of if he was just giving Scalia Thomas and the black neoconservative movement quotes (as Icon was written as a conservative hero to contrast with a younger, liberal partner in Rocket).
6th Nov '17 12:08:12 PM lillolillo
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* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' storyline ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' has the titular heroine becoming a [[Franchise/GreenLantern Red Lantern]] after a severe breakdown. Her becoming a Red is in no way treated as a positive change but as a sign that Kara Zor-El had severe psychological issues dragging her down which she needed to overcome. Nonetheless, a number of fans chose to focus on how badass she looked, complained when she left the team, and later demanded a Red Lantern arc in [[Series/Supergirl2015 her live-action show]].
2nd Nov '17 10:59:19 AM lillolillo
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** The emergence of comics like ''ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}}'', with its BewareTheSuperman concept, also tends to put Batman in a better light in this storyline, given just how dangerous a lot of heroes could be if they really wanted to be.
** It's really a problem of the lesson itself being flawed. Every hero ''ever'' has been {{brainwashed}} at least once. (Also, for every hero, there's villains with the same power set, there's clones and alternate versions, etc.) They've ''all'' at least once been very happy for their supporting casts being able to figure out how to stop them or someone ''like'' them. Batman ''has Superman's blessing'' to keep some Kryptonite. The idea that suddenly, having an idea of what you'd do if Spellbinder looked one of the League in the eye for two seconds makes you a borderline villain was ''never'' going to fly.



*** Magog even got Misaimed Fandom ''from his creators.'' Waid and Ross tried to design his costume to include everything they hated about 1990s costumes, but ended up kinda liking it. The character also gets a clear shot at redemption.

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*** ** Magog even got Misaimed Fandom ''from his creators.'' Waid and Ross tried to design his costume to include everything they hated about 1990s costumes, but ended up kinda liking it. The character also gets a clear shot at redemption.
16th Oct '17 9:06:19 AM KrspaceT
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* ''Comicbook/{{Icon}}'' was written by the late great Dwayne McDuffie and had a massive big name fan in the form of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. The problem: Dwayne McDuffie ''did not like'' Clarence Thomas, calling him Scalia's Lapdog among other insults. It was to a point the fandom of Justice Thomas gave McDuffie ''writers block'' with the question of if he was just giving Scalia and the black neoconservative movement quotes (as Icon was written as a conservative hero to contrast with a younger, liberal partner in Rocket).
4th Sep '17 2:58:22 PM CantNotLookAtThisSite
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*** While we're on the subject, Fawkes was not an anarchist, as depicted in the novel, but a radical Catholic who disliked the Protestant king and wanted to wipe him and the rest of the Protestant government out in one fell swoop in order to restore the Pope as the authority in Britain. Yet, because of ''V for Vendetta'' and Alan Moore's probably-deliberately ironic use of Fawkes's image to depict an anarchist rebel rather than a Catholic nationalist, most Americans and even some British people think of him as one.
22nd Aug '17 6:33:41 AM SpukiKitty
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12th Aug '17 11:42:21 AM Doug86
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* ComicBook/{{Lobo}} started as a generic mercenary before being retooled by creator Keith Giffen as a parody of eighties "grim and gritty" heroes like ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/ThePunisher in a series of mini-series books. Needless to say, Lobo became a big hit with fans who took the satire at face value.

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* ComicBook/{{Lobo}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}} started as a generic mercenary before being retooled by creator Keith Giffen as a parody of eighties "grim and gritty" heroes like ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/ThePunisher in a series of mini-series books. Needless to say, Lobo became a big hit with fans who took the satire at face value.
24th Jul '17 7:03:37 PM MBG
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* This happens with a lot of "satire" characters where the author "exaggerates" them just by taking all the elements that people seem to like in other shows and lumping them together without actually exaggerating anything. We've seen this in reverse with films like ''Film/SuckerPunch'', intended to "parody" exploitation literature but garnering reactions as if they were genuine because, well, the creators forgot the part where they make the thing they're parodying more ridiculous or extreme than the source material.

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* This happens with a lot of "satire" characters where the author "exaggerates" them just by taking all the elements that people seem to like in other shows and lumping them together without actually exaggerating anything. We've seen this in reverse with films like ''Film/SuckerPunch'', intended to "parody" exploitation literature but garnering reactions as if they were genuine because, well, the creators forgot the part where they make the thing they're parodying more ridiculous or extreme than the source material. And even if they do make it more ridiculous or extreme, then, considering they operate in a genre based on impressive and bizarre events, all they really did was ''[[BeyondTheImpossible top]]'' the original.
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